This WILL Replace Dungeons & Dragons

Jakin shares why DC20 is the BEST alternative to Dungeons & Dragons!
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⏰ Timecodes ⏰
00:00 - What is DC20?
00:41 - Video Disclaimer
01:00 - Why Do I Love DC20?
01:41 - DC20 Uses the D20 System
01:49 - You Don't Roll For Damage
02:19 - The Action Point System
02:38 - The Ancestry System
03:21 - Being a DC20 GM is Easy!
03:41 - DC20 and D&D Use Similar Skills
03:47 - There Are Only Four Attributes
04:32 - Raising a Banner for DC20
05:03 - Early Access to the Alpha 0.5 is Out NOW!
05:30 - Outro
#dc20 #dnd #pathfinder
About:
After the OGL (Open Gaming License) scandal of 2023, Jakin decided to try TTRPGS (Tabletop Roleplaying Games) other than D&D (Dungeons & Dragons). He tried Pathfinder 2e (Second Edition) and even streamed it with his friends. After a few sessions, it was clear the game wasn't for him. He enjoyed being a player, but not running the game. Later that year, he attended GenCon with the OSQ (One Shot Questers) crew and got to play test the Dungeon Coach's DC20. Ever since then, Jakin has been obsessed with game. He quickly convinced all of his current D&D home games to convert to the DC20 system and he hasn't looked back. Some features that stand out to him are the Action Points, the Ancestry Points, how similar it is to D&D, and how you don't have to roll damage! Unlike Pathfinder's 3 action economy, DC20 has a four action economy that allows the players to move, attack, defend, or give themselves advantage. With the Ancestry Points, two players can play a Human and have totally different ancestry features! In DC20, you don't roll damage. Instead, each weapon has a base damage. So when you roll to attack, if you meat or beat the PD (physical defense), you deal that damage! PLUS, for every increment of 5 that you go over the PD, you get to add an additional point of damage!

[@swordplaysorcery]

🟣 Get Alpha access to DC20 here ➡ tinyurl.com/5n8sm85c

[@TheDungeonCoach]

Love having someone like you as a content creator and friend of the channel... this was a GREAT take on all the different features of DC20. Well done, great editing, 10/10 brother!!!

[@swordplaysorcery]

Dude, I'm honored! Thank you and keep up the great work!

[@ramblingryan6466]

DC20 is my most anticipated of all the new systems emerging since the OGL hubbub

[@swordplaysorcery]

I’m in LOVE with it! It’s for sure my favorite!

[@lazerbeams2536]

Does anyone else feel like they just watched a 5 minute ad? Personally, I found Pathfinder 2e significantly easier to run than 5e, but ig it isn't for everyone. I'll probably also get DC20 on full release once I can see some actual play, but in it's current form I as an alpha that doesn't even come with the final version I'm not willing to pay

[@swordplaysorcery]

All fair points!

[@1337w0n]

I do.

[@martinbowyer7906]

I'll 2nd the all fair point comment, but with a follow-up. There is 2 one shots you can watch where the creator GMs for party comprised of D&D Yiutubers/influencers. They're arr probably more 3rd party too. As for the paying part it's well worth it, currently on sale for $5. You get all the alpha updates until the beta luanches with kickstarter, which will be enough for player to reach level 5-10. That is equivalent or better than a starter box for much cheaper. The ad feel is a by-product from us on the hype train for DC20 using our word of mouth to boost this small indie creator. His 5e homebrew stuff was great, and I'm loving DC20. We want it to be one of the new gen TTRPG big names, but his team doesn't have the Ad budget like Wizards, Piazo, or Critical Roll/Darlington Press

[@DragonElixion]

I do feel like I just watched a 5-minute ad.

[@jspsj0]

I tried pathfinder and don't recomend it for anyone. Such a flawed game.

[@daydam]

Well, you officially got me interested in DC20. Great video!

[@swordplaysorcery]

Thank you! I’m really excited to dive into the system more!

[@brandonlaneva]

Great video! My favorite thing about DC20 is the variety in character builds you can make. Which is crazy because the alpha only has 2 character levels.

[@swordplaysorcery]

Couldn't agree more! Love your videos btw!

[@mauriciogerhardt3209]

This is what i've been telling people for years: the better D&D gets, the closer it resembles GURPS

[@jamesroberts8287]

It’s a shame though, DC20 won’t have the same advertising as D&D and Pathfinder

[@swordplaysorcery]

'Tis a shame indeed. Hopefully word of mouth will continue to build the already wonderful DC20 community!

[@323starlight]

@@swordplaysorceryit’ll also have the backing and promotion of a ton of DnD KZbinrs, so that word of mouth will spread faaaaaaar

[@swordplaysorcery]

That's what I'm hoping for!

[@SeeleyOne]

Who cares about advertising? That's a sham. I usually will NOT get something that is advertised.

[@pearlhoff8888]

Sadly, people need to know it exists in order to buy it.

[@caelmarquard]

Hey, love the video, but just wanted to say that the ding sound for the DC20 counter is a bit irritating after a while

[@swordplaysorcery]

Noted for future videos!

[@jibbyjackjoe]

"DC20" - DING

[@commonviewer2488]

Good video for summarizing key mechanics of the game. On another note, overhyping this as the fabled "Dnd Killer" will put weighty expectations that will have skeptics scoffing at DC20, and followers being dissapointed. It's a fun looking game in the midst of development that I want to hear more about, that's what's important.

[@swordplaysorcery]

Fair point! It's a hard thing to please the almighty KZbin algorithm. What the title WOULD say if it weren't so algorithm focused would be "This WILL Replace Dungeons & Dragons at My Tables!"

[@elijahkimvo]

I am so very excited for the release of DC20, it utilizes everything I love about 5e, as well as makes numerous improvements over the things I have issues with

[@swordplaysorcery]

BIG agree! I love how much bigger it feels with just TWO LEVELS lol

[@bakedstreetyt]

you can homebrew all those things? whats the point lol

[@swordplaysorcery]

@@bakedstreetyt For me, I enjoy just having it be part of the base game rather than twisting another game into something it wasn’t designed to be

[@phillipwarner4062]

@@bakedstreetytSure you can absolutely homebrew whatever you like, and there's nothing wrong with that. But having a base game with a common set of rules is great because then anyone can sit down to play at a table and understand what's going on. Playing homebrewed games can cause a lot of confusion and misunderstanding.

[@croaxleigh]

Instead of ancestry points like you were talking about, I still prefer 13th Age's background points. It helps you to customize character backstory and acts as a skills system that's customized to the character itself. It's not rewriting aspects of the race (ie, "human"), but you can assign points to literally any background you want for the character ("he was a farmer who joined the Emperor's army then joined a traveling circus when he got out, so I'm taking 3 points for Farmer, 3 points for Soldier, and 2 points for Circus Performer") and then add those points as a modifier on skill checks when it makes sense that the character would have learned that skill as a part of that background. So high customization to avoid cookie-cutter characters but still pretty simple. (The game also gives you ability score bonuses that you can choose where to apply based on your class and race, so there's a bit of customization there as well.)

[@rohanm7695]

The video is good (and doesn't need the stupid title). I was convinced to follow the link, and therein I am done. Asking people to pay for the alpha is novel, but OK, I can understand that. But then requiring those early supporters to pay *again* when you launch .... pfft.

[@valasdarkholme6255]

I'll look for a review of DC20 when its out, but it's probably not going to be my thing. I wasn't very enamoured with either 5e or PF2, and have gone back to 3e and started home brewing it to be more GURPS or Rolemaster like. Which, is just a very different kind of TTRPG. That said, I've also been considering dropping rolled damage.

[@GuybrushTThreepwood]

I'm super curious what about GMing 2e is harder than 5e. Generally the strongest benefit of pathfinder from what I've heard is how much easier it is to GM.

[@MikeTsquared]

I found pf2e much easier. Everything was already set and unlike 5e, I didn't have to cobble together stuff every time the rules didn't align (which happened a lot in 5e)

[@Cyxodus]

Yeah. This guy lost so much credibility from what he said about Pathfinder. I’ve ran both and I’ve found PF2e so much easier to run. It’s underlining math is so tight and allows for easy on the fly changes.

[@gonzoengineering4894]

I haven't played 2e from the DM side of the screen, but I am absolutely incredulous to the notion that it is simpler to run than 5e. I can imagine certain things being easier, the environmental effects seem way more versatile and plug-and-play compared to 5e's "here's a vague template, figure it out" and Pathfinder modules have always been way more intuitively written than anything WotC has ever published, but the sheer number of moving parts compared to 5e, and the volume of PC abilities that need to be accounted for when designing an encounter seems way more daunting than the game I run when I was want to operate on vibes alone.

[@GuybrushTThreepwood]

@@gonzoengineering4894 you don't really need to account for player options when creating encounters. Most of the "encounter breaking abilities" in both systems are spells, and 5e's spells are MUCH worse in those regards. The fact that player options are intentionally balanced and there's very simple encounter building guidelines that actually work make running 2e a lot simpler. Want a moderate encounter? Add things until your encounter has 80xp in it, it actually will be. Want a 50/50 for a tpk? Go ahead and use 160xp for an extreme encounter. Traps and hazards also have xp and follow the same rules, and you can mix and match.

[@MikeTsquared]

@gonzoengineering4894 I understand your trepidation, and in *some* situations your absolutely correct. But u can confidently say that for me (and many others) the majority of all encounters and events are easier to run in PF2e. And I ran 5e for 8 years before trying PF2e. On paper it seems like a absolute dump truck of things to track, but in practice I find it runs much smoother. Of course, each person will have a different experience. I just find that while there are more gears, they run so much smoother.

[@hammert0es]

With the cheesy music in the background, this watches like one of those 3 minute long KZbin commercials.

[@victorl.4795]

Amazing video man, I'm surprised the algorithm didn't show your channel to me before. But thanks to DC's description on his latest video, I found it. Instant sub, keep at it :)

[@GrandOldDwarf]

Loving the DC20 HYPE TRAIN!!!!

[@swordplaysorcery]

GRAND OLD DWARF! It's an honor!

[@rohanv18]

Really amazing fun beingh a GM in DC20 casue the things players can do is so varied but easy to resolve

[@TheUglyGoblin]

Wow! Such clean editing! Really nice production on this video. Also totally agree with you here :3 looove dc 20

[@swordplaysorcery]

WHAT. AN. HONOR. Thank you!

[@TheUglyGoblin]

@@swordplaysorcery Aw :3 you're doing great

[@LuizCesarFariaLC]

I'm SO hyped about DC20!

[@swordplaysorcery]

YOU AND ME BOTH!

[@cruciblegaminggroup5471]

Happy to see more games and more people playing non-WOTC games. I don't think anything will topple the D&D brand (other than maybe Hasbro themselves) but hopefully people who come to the hobby due to their market share and presence find other games :)

[@swordplaysorcery]

SO true on the Hasbro point! lol

[@jaredemery6189]

Hey. I've been following the Dungeon Coach for a long time and have been very keen to see his DC20, when it comes to KS. So my question is genuine. You have stated that PF2e is bad for a GM. Can you expand? I have found it to be so much better than 5E. Can you expand on what you don't like? Thanks.

[@tetsubo57]

I might well take a look at this. But I find PF2 and 5E to be walled gardens. Whenever I read either rule set I just find myself running into things a player can't do. The very idea of stat caps simply appalled me. Stat caps? In high fantasy? I still consider PF1 to be the best high fantasy set of rules ever written. A close second would be Radiance, also a D20 based system.

[@Night_Hawk_475]

personally I rather have a rules heavy system, it might be a little harder to get into pf1e or d&d3.5, but the breadth of 3rd party content they support is insane nowadays, I feel so constricted when I try 5e. Pf2e is a bit better, but I'd want like another decade of class/archetypes/spells/feats/traits/options for it like it's predecessor already offers. The extra rules in pf1e are also quite helpful in lightening the load for DMs as they don't have to improvise so much. And now that I've played it for a while it's pretty easy for me to help new players learn the system while they're in my games.

[@alexandrefoisy-geoffroy5346]

One question I had after downloading the game is that the classes are only defined for levels 1 and 2 at the moment? Do we need to be on the Patreon to see the levels 3+? Because I cannot imagine running a DC20 campaign if it stops at level 2, especially as a GM who loves high-stakes campaigns (Exalted being my favorite RPG). I do understand that it's still under construction, obviously, and that balance could be way off still. But I could cope with that.

[@swordplaysorcery]

Currently, everyone has access to levels 1-2. The finished game will have all classes going to level 10 and then the option to have prestige levels after that! So, even though class levels are capped at 10, there technically won't be a max level cap for your character like D&D

[@MemphiStig]

I've played 1e - 3e (and numerous other rpg's), and I've seen a lot of 5e actual play, and I think all the versions, even 4e, are solid games and have a lot to offer, but they've all got their flaws. What's unique to me now is that a lot of people are putting good solutions to those flaws into their own games, and the results are often excellent games in their own right. This one looks very promising, too.

[@marcusjones6098]

I've never paid any attention to a ttrpg before until I heard about DC20.

[@Nosmo90]

I found it quite jarring and disappointing that you got to the concept of classes not being tied to ability scores/attributes (*easily* the most interesting part of the video, in my view) but rather than expanding on that, you veered off into just saying how much you like the game overall in a manner more fitting to the start of a video than partway through. 😕

[@riotlablanc2201]

If we buy the alpha do we have to buy it again on release

[@swordplaysorcery]

Buying the Alpha will only get you access to the Alpha material and not the full game. However, each time there is an alpha update, you will get that as well! I bought the Alpha because 1) I wanted to support the project and 2) it’s enough material, to me at least, to run the game and have fun! :)

[@allenbagwell8034]

But does DC20 scale properly for high-level (13+) adventures? Adding +2 damage to a crit doesn't sound like it.

[@captnjd]

I bought the alpha; your damage is not only based on the weapon, it's based on how high you beat an enemies Physical Defense (AC in D&D5E terms) with your Attack. So if you beat their PD by 5 or more, you deal more damage, 10 or more, even more damage. Your Attack scores are determined by things that relate to your player level, the higher the level, the more you add to your attack, meaning the higher your chance of you beating an enemy's PD by 5 or 10 is. It's still an alpha, but this is a great point. It does seem like the team behind DC20 has done their best to balance the game, haven't played it for myself yet though.

[@samryan8703]

Hey man, great video! How did you find out about DC20?

[@swordplaysorcery]

Through the Dungeon Coach! Been a fan of his for a while!

[@chrisdoherty1072]

*Sigh*. O Ron Edwards, where art thou?

[@fern1009]

Considering my current investment into D&D 5e assets into FoundryVTT, I'll probably wait until DC20 has a presence on the platform (it might but I haven't checked).

[@swordplaysorcery]

Hopefully in the future it will! Honestly can't blame you either. I myself have invested a LOT into D&D. I wish it had been more in something like FoundryVTT. I've heard nothing but great things!

[@Azerod]

Interesting. But I'm finding Dagger heart more interesting. And I think Legends in the Mist is going to dominate my game table when it comes out next year. But great overview, hadn't heard of this system.

[@swordplaysorcery]

Got to run Daggerheart recently and it was a blast!

[@samuraichamploo101]

Wasn't even aware of DC20 until I saw this

[@PHJcz]

Great insights! DC20 is great.👍🏻

[@swordplaysorcery]

It really is! I’m excited to see what is in store for its future!

[@fabriciosepulveda511]

I was watching this video on the hope I could use to play my next adventure and what called my attention was the rules of making monsters. That wast the cherry at the top of the cake for me.

[@swordplaysorcery]

All we have are the bare bones for making monsters, but the community has been so helpful with converting the 5e monster manual to DC20!

[@VkaraujoHusk]

Tbh, DC20 hasnt made it for me. For starters, I actually like rolling dice, so while a faste battle is something I appreciate I dont lik that solution The 4 action system ended making less reactions happen, instead of more. Playing during other players turns is something I like since magic the gathering, so also not going into the direction I prefer. The different character builds might be the one thing I really like so far.

[@prophetzarquon1922]

Agreed on all points.

[@TheRealRedAce]

In our games, D&D was replaced well before the turn of the century. The 50+ year old combat system has NEVER really worked as it should.

[@duncandewar9885]

Is it class/level based still?

[@captnjd]

Yes!

[@mooxim]

okay that's three glowing reviews for DC20 including Dungeoncraft and D&DShorts. If Sly Flourish lauds it Imma have to buy the Alpha

[@MikeLemmons]

Pathfinder 2nd Edition: Am I a joke to you?

[@swordplaysorcery]

As a GM, yes. As a player, never 🥹

[@varenoftatooine2393]

Running 2e is way easier than running 5e​ @swordplaysorcery

[@jspsj0]

Pathfinder is a joke.

[@jspsj0]

Same feeling here. Tried Pathfinder2e but hated it. DC20 looks nice.

[@amit-sg8rx]

So you can cast spells and swing a sword with the same prime stat you chose? How does it work you can swing an axe with charisma?

[@swordplaysorcery]

In DC20, your Prime Attribute is always going to be equal to your highest Attribute. For example, the max an attribute can be at level one is 3. Therefor, if you chose to have Charisma be your highest attribute (with a score of 3), then your prime will equal 3! The attributes in the game are still important for various reasons (Might = Health, Agility = Armor, Charisma = Grit, etc) but no matter which one you prioritize, the Prime will match that!

[@amit-sg8rx]

@swordplaysorcery thanks for commenting. I understand that but will my paladin use charisma for weapon attacks and spells?

[@swordplaysorcery]

The Paladin will use their Prime modifier! In DC20, you don't have spell slots, but rather a Mana Pool. Intelligence and Charisma will contribute towards your Mana Pool. But as far as attack/spell check modifiers go, that will be your Prime!

[@phillipwarner4062]

That actually sounds pretty simple, but genius. I love playing martial characters but unless you are a paladin, you suck at social stuff. With this system, you could still be a smooth talking fighter. Neat. @@swordplaysorcery

[@prophetzarquon1922]

Agreed; this is a really neat mechanic which more than anything else is interesting me in this system! (2nd is probably the damage mechanic; most damage rolls seem redundant when attack rolls can also indicate degrees of success!?)

[@user-ld3rf4qh4x]

Do you know what sort of VTT support/implementation they are planning, if any?

[@martinbowyer7906]

A member of the DC20 discord has created a Foundry system pack based on the current alpha and is updating it regularly. The DC20 team also has digital tools in the works as well.

[@prophetzarquon1922]

Man, I would love something that makes it easier to carve holes out of layered caverns with overhangs & sloping floors, during gameplay. Right now, I'd say conveniently "destructible terrain" is the main thing missing from "3D" VTTs. Most aren't even 3D, so much as 2D flat surfaces with removable layers & props.

[@grimtygranule5125]

So instead of 'sparring' with enemies, we just walk into them and they die? Thats not that bad pfft. But what i do love is how its just agility. instead of what every other rpg does and had Dexterity, Agility, Athletics all as different stats that affect different damage types.....

[@marcobering3945]

Just have one stat that does it all? Need to attack? Roll the stat. Need to talk someone into or out of something? Roll the stat. Even better, no stats. The DM just chooses whether you succeed or not. How? Whoever has given the most recent, most effective bribe. Introduce microtransactions to the tabletop world!

[@jackspade77]

2:56 Is one or more players choosing the same race an actual issue at other people's tables?

[@swordplaysorcery]

Unfortunately in my experience, it has been. I can't speak for other's tables, but I've had a messy situation because of it.

[@jackspade77]

I dont think ive been running games as long as you, but I've never had that issue. Did the player(s) give a specific reason why that was an issue?

[@NeoRaven78]

So far, DC20 is looking to be the best TTRPG of all time regardless of your play style.

[@user-pc5ww8fh6d]

Not refuting anything, I'm just wondering, will Gen Alpha want it if it involves reading print on paper. Because it won't matter if it is human or AI created, if no one wants it. I'm 62, I created the hobby in the 70s with my friends. I LIKE reading books. But, I'm solo these days. And the internet doesn't do it for me. And the next crop of 'fans' may well be uninterested in anything not on a screen. And that might include DC20 and everything before it.

[@prophetzarquon1922]

It's available in digital form & the dev team is already integrating it into Foundry VTT as they go; so, it's easy to pick up for digital natives.

[@SuperbanditG]

I'm glad this video was made. Entertaining and informative!

[@swordplaysorcery]

Thank you!

[@YoungFox78]

Love the love, DC20 is a ton of fun.

[@1337w0n]

I ain't paying money for an alpha, never heard of these people, and do those 3 in the thumbnail know you're using their likeness?

[@selthafour6948]

Brennan had already been in contact with the dungeon coach about the game and it’s release. And i don’t think they would care ab their likeness being used in this way lol

[@prophetzarquon1922]

The thumbnail _does_ make it look like all 3 endorse the product. So, getting their permission is technically mandatory if this video is monetized.

[@absurdian8208]

So you feel overwhelmed by DMing pathfinder 2, a system which is famous for literally the opposite. You have to elaborate on that topic.

[@absurdian8208]

Ok I got it, it's sarcasm, and it's everywhere. Have a great day good sir 🎩

[@DragonElixion]

This video highlights a lot of this issues I have with a lot of the upcoming "new systems". They are so much like 5e, and if you play 5e, they will be so easy to play... So why don't I just play 5e?? Most tables homebrew things that don't work so they do work, so unless I'm starting a brand new table with people who don't have a lot of experience, playing something so 5e-adjacent is just gonna end up with us tweaking the rules we like the same way we did with 5e until our tweaked DC20 looks just like our tweaked 5e. So there's literally no point. Making 5e clones just means I gotta shell out a fortune for a whole new list of books. Don't get me wrong, WotC have done me no favours and I don't actually buy official D&D titles anymore, but I started collecting books years ago, so I have dozens of 5e compatible books, and there are new 3rd-party content books for 5e every month - I'll never run out of game ideas. So why am I learning a bunch of small, intricate rules to subtly change the system I've already refined with my current tables?? Drastically different systems, or systems that bridge between two different systems for a happy-medium, systems with a lower bar to entry or a drastically higher complexity, that's what is interesting. Something *different*, not something similar but maybe a bit better depending on preferences. Something, something, quote about thinking outside but pressed right up against the box. Don't give me a refined 5e experience and expect me to discard the thousands of dollars of resources I've already got just so I can start the drawn out process of shelling out (potentially, especially if it's successful) thousands more. If 5e is so bad that you need a different system, then make something that not easily mistaken for 5e. And if 5e works but you just don't want to support WotC, like me, for every official D&D 5e/5.5e release there are DOZENS of 3rd-party content releases from people who absolutely deserve your money and support.

[@swordplaysorcery]

"Systems that bridge between two different systems" would 100% be DC20

[@DragonElixion]

@swordplaysorcery if that's true then I'm interested, but I didn't get that impression from the video.

[@chadwickerman]

It seems like an interesting system. Unfortunately I wouldn't be able to get anyone to play it. I quit playing online because it's such a terrible role playing experience, which means I play locally. Locally people only want brand recognition; DnD, PF, WH40k, etc. No one is willing to try other things, which is sad.

[@prophetzarquon1922]

A lot of that is aversion to ascending a new learning curve, in my experience. Simplified systems can be extremely quick & easy for D&D players to pick up; sometimes it's less work than playing a new 5e expansion book.

[@viniciuspiazzetta5920]

The rules os DC20 look like an set of rules i use to DM d20 rpg, i don't like d&d and is not difficult to make rules better than d&d.

[@EnterThePocketDimension]

Love your takes, and couldn't agree more! Hey, let's play some DC20 together soon!

[@swordplaysorcery]

OMG THAT WOULD BE A BLAST!

[@NotDeadSpider]

Love how energizing and well made this is. Really kept my attention and I'm considering looking into this game

[@swordplaysorcery]

Appreciate it!

[@BIGBENMACDOUCE]

DC20 FTW. THIS game just feels awesome to me and I love how the dungeon coach just attacks all of the something problem or unintuitive mechanics of 5e and makes them into something cool and interesting. Meaningful choices is really the goal here and engagement in the game overall. Thank you for promoting this great system to be.

[@swordplaysorcery]

Yoo thank you for the awesome comment! Couldn't agree more on why the system is great! More DC20 videos to come ;)

[@undead9999]

I just wanna know if a monk-like class is featured in this. Yeah I know "heew, monks suck". But I love them U_U

[@Jojo-js4dv]

Monk is indeed in dc20 they’re actually pretty good. My favorite feature is that they ignore the stacking disadvantage mechanic of multiple attacks with Flurry of Blows which is a brilliant adaptation

[@undead9999]

@@Jojo-js4dv nice thanks man!

[@WandererEris]

You lost me when you called it streamlined. I stuck to 3.5e because 5e was already far too streamlined, to the point that almost everything was left to DM judgement calls. I want more rules, not less, so I doubt I'll be looking into this

[@swordplaysorcery]

Perfectly reasonable! I've heard nothing but great things about 3.5!

[@SkullyFluff]

I wonder if DC20 will be implemented into foundry

[@swordplaysorcery]

We can hope!

[@Valandar2]

Nope. Nothing will replace anything. And nothing that is a level and class system SHOULD evver "replace" D&D, because it's just someone else's D&D.

[@swordplaysorcery]

Fair!

[@Mortalkainen]

love it!

[@JacobL228]

LOL, how cute. Everyone thinks they're going to come up with the thing that finally kills D&D, but even if it sucks sometimes (coughs in 5.5e), it's still an amazing game with a dedicated fanbase that's undergone numerous revisions over the years. You can't just upstage D&D 5e if your game isn't even at 1e, especially if you can't acknowledge the positive qualities of your opponent, and simply demonize it instead.

[@swordplaysorcery]

The title leaves out two words: For Me ;) Will it kill D&D? Nah. Will it replace D&D for me? Yup! And that’s okay! I still play D&D, it’s just no longer my go to option :)

[@TwinRiver100]

🤔🤔hmmm. Nice 2 see other ttrpgs coming about.

[@mkklassicmk3895]

You lost me at Pathfinder.

[@swordplaysorcery]

I lost myself at Pathfinder, too 😔

[@mkklassicmk3895]

​@@swordplaysorcery Was that pun deliberate because it was really good either way.

[@swordplaysorcery]

LOL I wish I could say that it was deliberate!

[@mkklassicmk3895]

@@swordplaysorcery It was still glorious. Lol

[@jspsj0]

I don't recommend pathfinder to anybody. I had a terrible time with it.

[@LilianLin21]

oh pls no, I just try to get into dnd ;-;

[@swordplaysorcery]

To be fair to D&D, it’s also a great time to jump into that system! It’s getting a MAJOR rules update this September!

[@riversidecrooks1921]

no it wont

[@Leniathan]

💜

[@swordsnstones]

hm......

[@swordplaysorcery]

🤔

[@swordsnstones]

@@swordplaysorcery im an osr fan so hard for me to contemplate how this can replace dnd...ok well maybe 5e but then again i dont play 5e or pathfinder so i guess my opinion is mute

[@Nanitefox]

Is this an ad

[@swordplaysorcery]

Nope! In no way is this video sponsored, I'm just super pumped about the game!

[@1337w0n]

@@swordplaysorceryWhy does the ending URL end with a superfluous "?sca_ref=5391638.hD2vHlt76i"? It's kinda weird and honestly p.sus that you'd put the link in a tinyurl.

[@rustybrooks8916]

No thanks. You lost me with the weapon damage. I especially hate systems that have a "roll X over DC, add increment bonus". Also not a fan of action points.

[@swordplaysorcery]

And that’s okay! Plenty of RPGs that don’t include those mechanics!

[@marcobering3945]

Haha. No.

[@zielgenau9299]

Meh.

[@zielgenau9299]

It seems interesting, but it doesn't beat DnD for me. I especially hate the damage system, idk its just not to my liking.

[@swordplaysorcery]

And that's totally okay! I would love to hear what you're go to system is! I'm in the process of learning some new ones :)

[@Cyxodus]

Sigh. Another KZbinr who claim Pathfinder 2e is so hard and then shills another system.

[@prophetzarquon1922]

Being less of a mess than 5.5e, is hardly a recommendation. Pf2 is not simple to pick up & start DMing, which is the aim of DC20 & other "simplified" systems... Homebrew means relearning for every table; but many "simplified" systems leave so much to DM fiat, that you're relearning for every table anyway... It seems very rare to find a system that is simpler than 5e or Pf2 to start DMing, yet still covers enough bases to be consistent between tables without relearning how each DM plays it. If DC20 accomplishes that, then I'm _very_ interested. If it's yet another "rules light" role-playing system with more suggestions than mechanical layers, then I'm not interested. I haven't seen enough to tell, yet!

[@thorinschmidt4764]

So... the worst version of D&D and the crappy version of Pathfinder had a love child, and it is somehow good? No, somehow great? Your opening statement makes me want to avoid it. Okay, yeah, I listened to the whole thing. You didn't change my mind. I'm just too old, I guess, to appreciate all the things new players like in their games. I can do all the things you extoll by using my OWN umagination. I've never needed "rules" in order to customize my characters and give them flavor. hard pass. Too much of what I DON'T need, and nothing really of what I do.

[@swordplaysorcery]

You're more than welcome to!