This Will Take Over Your Lawn!! // Get Rid Of Creeping Charlie, Ground Ivy, Wild Violet

[@ryanknorrlawncare]

Tzone (best price as of this video) - shrsl.com/375j3 Tzone option 2 - amzn.to/3lu3lrX

[@FlyEaglesFly19111]

Thanks for the video.. ordering it now for the end of year to get a jump on it for next year. Creeping Charlie drives me crazy..

[@davidpeaston8443]

Any suggestions on baby breath weeds ? Big nuisance !

[@tyuhles]

Hi Ryan, Love your channel~ Just seeded some tall fescue about month ago, and what i thought was dead, is now back. creeping charlie / willd violet. would you advise me to take care if now or wait till spring?

[@kalapis123]

✅👉🏻👍

[@will-ob7pr]

When you goto the grocery store ask them for a few big boxes they are going to throw in the compactor. Open them up spread them out over it. Stake them into the ground with a few sticks and just let it die off for a week then rake that crap out. If there is anything left then just pick out any sprouts everytime you walk by and the grass will take it back over. Never understood why people want to pour poison all over their own yard or garden.

[@McScott76]

I used to live in the city with a 1/4" acre yard that I kept looking like a manicured golf course -- obsessed over weeds, watered, fertilized, etc. Now we have 6 acres with about 2 acres that we maintain as a yard. It's amazing how your perspective changes. I've come to appreciate the diversity of plants that make up our yard. Creeping charlie, clover, grass, etc. I actually don't mind the low-lying clover and charlie. I only treat the larger weeds that look unsightly. As long as I keep it mowed regularly, it still looks good, and I find it way less stressful to let nature do its thing and not constantly be treating my lawn.

[@space.invaders]

That sounds like me now. My yard looks like a manicured golf course, back yard could be a putting green lol. But seriously. I went up north for the 4th of July. My neighbors thought I died because the grass had not been cut in 4 days.

[@graymoore6596]

Im a pro gardener... 35 years experience..... and I know what it is like to enjoy a diversity... we think alike. ENJOY.

[@ModSquads]

@@space.invaders 😂🤣🤣

[@Paios]

clover flowers are fantastic for pollinators

[@blakespower]

I am too lazy to care how my lawn looks I just make sure trees dont start growing

[@obryan240]

If it weren't for creeping Charlie I would have no lawn at all

[@Grampa-el3kz]

Funny !!! So that's the landscape version of "if I didn't have bad luck I would have no luck at all"?

[@matssundin1292]

Lol

[@ottomobile64]

Same here..whole backyard is creeping charlie

[@andreabilek2603]

Same here...and I have a doggie...

[@mlcarv]

At least they don’t need water and fertilizer…. :)

[@tonybarnes3858]

I've been so happy to see these plants succeed grass on our place. Less time wasted mowing, less gas burned to get that golf course-Dineyland look. Always eschewed chemicals. Previous owner mowed all 3 acres; we have let 2.5 acres go to meadow. Abundant birds, more snakes and insects--more beauty, more life, less work.

[@01murk10]

Yes! I looked it up becuase they appeared on my lawn this year and I wanted it to grow more. Surprised so many video on getting rid of it. The purple flowers are so pretty

[@jojo5715]

That's good because it's only a matter of time before creeping charlie evolves and is no longer killed by the toxic chemical he's recommending. There is no winning against this weed, in a few years it develops resistance to the herbicide and they just keep coming up with new ones. Creeping Charlie is not my favorite because it grows over everything else and is too aggressive, but there's no escaping it. It's flowers provide nectar to wildlife and it's part of the mint family, the leaves can be used to make a tea. So, it's more useful than an all grass lawn. I wish it wasn't so aggressive but I wouldn't consider using crazy chemicals to get get rid of it.

[@yesican2012]

The health benefits of creeping charlie from the Siberian Cedar Land site: By Milla Ezman May 9, 2018 Edited by Jisselle Regis Ground Ivy, better known as creeping Charlie is a balsamic mint that came to us from Europe and has spread throughout much of North America. There was a time when ground ivy was very well accepted for its therapeutic, as well as its culinary properties. But, currently it is considered a weed because it invades lawns. Ground Ivy contains a volatile oil which aids in relieving congestion and inflammation of mucous membranes associated with colds, flu, and sinusitis. Ground ivy tea or juice is well tolerated and can be given to small children. The Herb was reportedly used for centuries to prevent and treat a type of lead poisoning called “painter’s colic” and other heavy metals, making it a great herb to add to a detox formula. This herb is also a great diuretic, helping to eliminate waste and toxins from the kidneys and liver. Herbalists Matthew Wood and David Winston have both used ground ivy for mercury poisoning. It is also beneficial for liver and kidney function, since it is said to relieve gravel and stones. Combined with Yarrow or/and Chamomile Flowers it is used to make a poultice for abscesses, gatherings and tumors. Ground ivy has a reputation for being a tonic for the kidneys and bladder. It is used as a bitter tonic, as a nutritive tea high in Vitamin C, and as an excellent remedy for a stubborn cough. The fresh leaf can be bruised and applied to ease cuts and insect bites. If you search this plant on the internet you will find a lot of information on how to kill it once it has invaded your lawn. Gardeners hate the Creeping Charlie! Needless to say - I have it everywhere now! It is quite invasive, but because I know how beneficial the Herb is, he and I are in a very good symbiotic relationship!..." ------------------------------- "...Key actions: Antibacterial, Antiviral, Antiseptic, Anti-inflammatory, Anti-allergenic, Antihistamine, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic, Anti-tumor, Expectorant, Diuretic, Tonic, Immune-stimulant, gentle Sedative. Uses: colds, flu, sinusitis, digestive disorders, gastritis, diarrhea, kidney & Liver diseases, indigestion, lead & mercury poisoning. Arthritis. Joint and muscle pain (rheumatism). Ringing in the ears (tinnitus). Diarrhea. Hemorrhoids. Stomach problems. Bladder and Kidney stones. Wounds or other skin conditions, when applied directly to the skin. Constituents: Vitamin C, flavanoids, volatile oil, sesquiterpenes, a bitter principle (glechomine), caffeic acids and tannins..."

[@vernonfrance2974]

@@yesican2012 Thank you!

[@Blagblhbsthbllngyibdg]

This sounds like a fucking nightmare lol good for you I guess though

[@jimforgrave6365]

Took me a few years to get rid of this weed anyone who's struggling,...keep at it. It's worth it

[@hochhaul]

Tenacity+High Yield Triclopyr Ester+Surfactant It's incredibly effective. Way more effective than Triclopyr Ester on its own.

[@MikeH_41-33_LII]

I have this all over my back lawn. Very Large area. I have two dogs and refuse to use any weed killer. So creeping Charlie stays. Good video for those who wish to tackle this issue though.

[@1manmanythings144]

I have 3 dogs, as long as you follow the directions it will be ok.

[@FerociousPancake888]

Tenacity is pet safe. Spray, let dry, and dogs are good to go.

[@McGnarly76]

Great video! For me, t-zone definitely stressed the turf as well, but completely nuked the creeping Charlie. I aerated, fertilized and overseeded a few weeks later and all of those areas bounced back, completely free of the ground ivy (except a few areas I missed with the sprayer). T-zone is no joke.

[@jamzach4]

I’ve tried everything over the last few years on creeping Charlie and wild violet but had little success. Used T-Zoneover a month ago and it took every bit of out with zero damage to my TTTF. Absolutely love this stuff and highly recommended it.Thanks Ryan ! Appreciate it

[@bl8388]

Too bad Creeping Charlie and Wild Violet don't just settle down and start a family together. Instead of messing up people's yards, that is.

[@Nightowl5454]

The absolute best way to combat it is too do the de-thatching then plant cereal rye and let grow to maturity, it'll out compete the weeds. Then when it's at maturity, mow it down to the ground and plant new grass seed.

[@Paios]

& then turn the rye into whiskey!

[@564df6g5h4d6f5g4h6d5]

The root is like a little carrot growing sideways. After a deep rain you can dig them out by hand with a weeding fork tool. You have to get that white carrot root!

[@Umadbro681]

I replaced my entire lawn with commonnmallow, all types of clover, chamomile, mint and lavender. It looks like grass when I mow, is very drought tolerant and looks great in the spots I don’t mow, making a beautiful looking and smelling landscape that takes minimal effort and water.

[@sher64ct45]

Wonderful!! The best ❤

[@denvercrites983]

How’s it all look in the winter? Thanks, from NC!

[@Umadbro681]

@@denvercrites983 It depends on how cold it gets. If you get to -20 then it'll die back. Mallow is a very tough hardy plant and is very cold tolerant surviving down to -4°. If it gets below that, it'll die back quite a bit, but come spring, will come back fairly fast. The Mallow spreads via seed and clover spreads via stolons which is to say underground. Clover is a great nitrogen fixer as well if you have a poor soil condition. Currently through the harsh winter we've had here in the west, it has completely died back and left only the grass that was planted along with it though come spring, will start taking over the yard again. I'm thinking about starting a vlog so people can learn about alternative lawn care.

[@SparksLP]

Do those plants survive in dense shade? I have a corner of my lot that doesn't grow grass well.

[@Umadbro681]

@@SparksLP Common mallow will grow just about anywhere. For instance, I live in the high desert which is pretty hot in the summer while cold at night and mostly sand. It only requires partial shade to thrive. The others like clover will wilt if it gets too stressed, but bounces back pretty quick. Mint and lavender grows better in partial shade where I am, but will grow in full sun if it's not too hot (above 100f). If left alone the mallow will get quite big with thick vines unless mowed so if you're looking for something that will stay small, I would go with mini clover as Clover can tolerate a variety of light levels, from full sun to partial shade (with 2-6 hours of direct sun per day). However, though clover is generally more shade-tolerant than grass, it can't handle every level of shade. Out of all of the above mentioned, Mallow is the most resilient with foot traffic and stress. Clover and Mallow will spread though so if you only plant it in a corner, it will most likely take over a small yard within a couple years. And while clover will more resemble grass when mowed, Mallow if left unchecked, will have thick stems that won't look like grass. I hope I answered your question.

[@MFaith777]

I love creeping Charlie. I think it’s pretty. ☺️❤️ Plus, it’s medicinal. It helps all kinds of things including tinnitus. Just thought I’d share.

[@thehatedclown5453]

I was thinking the same thing. I live in a rural area and have this all over my yard. I’d rather much have things that I can eat or use as medicine in my yard than grass that all I can do is look at and mow. I have all kinds of useful plants in my yard. My favorite is mullein. It is what I used when I had covid.

[@MFaith777]

@@thehatedclown5453 love it! Mullein is great!

[@3mtech]

@@thehatedclown5453 Our front "lawn" is 9 raised beds full of organic vegetables and herbs, with creeping charlie and clover in between

[@davidrobinsonstarlightriotmke]

Cool I did not know it help with tinnitus did it help your?

[@sandybarbee8401]

M . Faith ! PLEASE enlighten me about the tinnitus claim ! ! ! ! Desperately seeking SILENCE . Been told by those with degrees that there is NO HOPE / NO "CURE"

[@ChrysanthsMum]

We dug it all up 30 years ago when we first moved in. We dug deep and built a deck over it. It’s back.

[@72hogdog]

I’ve used T-zone for a couple years now on the creeping charlie and it seems to work better than most other herbicides without damaging my lawn. It does work a bit slower than labels indicate, but it does work. Also works on various other weeds and undesirable invaders in my lawn.

[@Williamgarity]

I have been fighting Yellow Archangel, for about 5 years. It is a relative of Traveling Charlie and is in the mint family. I had an area of about 1/4 acre that was at least a foot thick. I have been using a "crossbow" generic once or twice a year. Now I am only spraying individual plants. Anytime I see a new sprout, I dig it out.

[@bretthibbs6083]

Ryan I had this problem a few years ago and what I have done is I used weed and feed and I also overseeded my lawn also and it was pretty bad in the back yard but now there's a few spots of it left but it's certainly a lot better than it was before I did all of that.

[@Skunked68]

It is weird, but that unmistakable scent reminds me of good childhood memories. I’ve wondered if a country place far from neighbors, if it would be a good "lawn" since it doesn’t grow very tall, less mowing. Off the beaten path thoughts. I surely would not wish to be a close neighbor "sharing" it though !!

[@McScott76]

We built a house in the country on what was formerly farm land. I over-seeded last fall with a hardy fescue mix and allowed the clover and creeping charlie to take its natural course. We now have a pretty well established lawn that is a mix of clover, grass and creeping charlie, and I actually think it looks great for a country yard/lawn. And yes... the clover and charlie stay low to the ground and keep me from having to mow so often. Mowing once a week keeps things looking great and actually better than the neighbors who are fighting against nature. I guess to each their own, but I kind of like the diversity of plants that make up our lawn.

[@babetweirdgirl4103]

Haha we are actually taking steps to allow white clover to take over our lawn because it looks nice, is softer on bare feet, stays green in extreme heat, less mowing, no watering required. Also great for the pollinators.

[@deborahvretis3195]

I am doing the same with wild violet.

[@BLEACH500]

You chicks ruin everything

[@dominicpardo4783]

I love it. Smells great when you mow it.

[@TheVirtualTim]

I had this problem in my lawn -- long before I found your videos. I tried Round-Up -- and at first it seemed to be completely immune. But then I tried an experiment ... I grabbed a "garden weasel" (a spikey tool used to loosen soil in gardens) so the "spikes" would bruise and damage the leaves of the wild-violets. That worked WONDERS. With damaged leaves, the same chemical easily nuked the invaders.

[@vernonfrance2974]

Kill, kill, kill. Kill till you've had your fill.

[@johnduffy6546]

I've also had good luck applying wood ashes. It changes the Ph of the soil and CC doesn't like it

[@kalapis123]

Absolute M a J o R Problem-Solver for my Yard ... prior to using T-Zone, tried for 2 years attempting to rid it of Creeping Charlie, after first application probably 95-98% effective after only 5 days... So, SO Pleased you created this instructional Video. Thank you Again.

[@axkamen3429]

Creeping Charlie is nice It grows low to the ground (no need to mow) It smells nice (mint family) And the flowers are nice A weed is a plant that you dont want there. Grass (invasive and nasty) is a weed in my garden.

[@Chris-jh3tg]

I can't stand the smell of that stuff

[@davidbennett9691]

It also repels ticks and mosquitos while attracting pollinators. One of the most beneficial garden companions.

[@tiffanybartolotta7691]

Creeping charlie has a long history of medicinal use. The Holistic Herbal recommends it for sinus problems, coughs and bronchitis, tinnitus, diarrhea, hemorrhoids and cystitis. Its actions are listed as, “Anti-catarrhal, astringent, expectorant, diuretic, vulnerary and stimulant”.

[@Mote78]

I keep hoping that American homeowners get off our “only turf grass lawn will do” attitude because Creeping Charlie is much easier on me and on the environment with all the herbicides, fertilizers and mowing that grass (requires). Then there’s the aeration, watering, reseeding, dethatching, etc to maintain traditional lawns. We need a better way. Creeping Charlie could be the answer.

[@bittersweet6507]

I would be happy if creeping Charlie took over the entire yard.

[@jfarm_1311]

Creeping Charlie and violet seem to be one of the worst to get rid of. Good info

[@eXcRaiNmaN]

My lawn care journey(don't feel like it's right to call it an obsession just yet😂) began this year... Weed control is definitely the most intimidating part. Thanks much for videos like this one!

[@carolynromero4462]

I had a fairly large area and I did the raking. Looked good for awhile but knew I wasnt getting all the roots. Thanks for letting us know of Tzone.

[@travisdopheide6735]

Hey Ryan just wanted to say been watching your videos through the summer and you do a great job explaining things how they work and certain steps you can and should take! Great work and keep up the great videos cheers

[@DHxJarsyl]

I have something similar to this in my back yard, and I love it. It stays green in south texas for most of the summer with no watering.

[@tbradtbrad]

I started cutting my grass at 3" this spring, leaving the clippings on the lawn. I was told the taller grass would prevent weeds and that I wouldn't have to spray. It did and I didn't.

[@ryanknorrlawncare]

Certain weeds it will but not this menace

[@nancyhawn3321]

Great tip, I don't wanna to use chemicals so will do this!

[@Cityhomesteaders727]

I stumbled upon this video and decided to read comments. I am so pleased and thankful to see sooo many people going natural and refusing to poison their lawns and our earth!! More and more ppl will be growing “Victory Gardens” again out of necessity and I’d hate to have to grow my families food in chemically saturated soil.

[@WswRefrigeration]

It’s very satisfying for me to pull those runners out and get the roots out with it. Is it just me? I have some spots in the backyard and always pull them out

[@1kanderson2]

It's not just you. I've zoned out for 2 to 3 hours pulling creeping charlie and loved every second of it. Felt like 10 minutes. I almost wished it would grow back so I could start pulling again.

[@seriejohnson698]

No, I love it as well. 😂

[@tongueandlunglady]

I love pulling it out but my arms don't like it.

[@DeltaBird2269]

Holy cow yes!! I’ve been waiting for something like this🙏🏼I put down some fertilizer when I overseeded a few months ago and this just sprouted up out of nowhere and is out of controll

[@dantrevorrow6312]

T Zone absolutely eradicated my problem. It was worse this year than years past. I had pulled it all by hand in previous years but the neighbors entire front yard is creeping Charlie this year so I was more aggressive.

[@woodstream6137]

Does it make good ground cover?

[@fredgervinm.p.3315]

Creeping in from the neighbors yard... I know the feeling. lol

[@claudiamiller7730]

Hey! Creeping Charlie & Creeping Jenny: grows in shade, Jenny has great spring flowers, Charlie smells good when you walk on it, don’t need to be babied, are GREEN, can easily be left on their own with maybe an occasional weed-whacker trim to Charlie, doesn’t have to be constantly watered, covers up ugly clay soil….certainly are winners in my outdoor playbook!

[@paulbrown8370]

I had a pesticide license from my state because i was in the lawn care business. We use to use Trimec, it is hard to get anymore because two of the ingredients in there is in Agent Orange as well. You need protective rubber gloves and a clear face mask because you don't want this one you hands or face or anywhere on your skin, it will get into your blood theough the skin very easy, must ne a professional to use this and have some brains. Trimec works real good unless you water it down to much, then it will take much longer to work and may need another application or two. BE VERY CAREFUL USING THIS STUFF, IT CAN BE DEADLY.

[@dougsholly9323]

I landed on this video while trying to figure out how to deal with my creeping charlie problem. This product does work, however, it took some trial and error. My first error was only using 1oz per gallon. The charlie basically just laughed at me. My next patch I went to 1.5oz per gallon. This worked like a champ, but I did get some 'burned' edges on my normal grass. After a cut or two, it was fine. I found that the 1.2ish (just an amount between 1 and 1.5) worked best. As for the progress, within 2-3 days, all of the leaves had brown spots and dead edges. I thought, heck yeah, this stuff is gonna wipe this out quick. But, after the browned edges, it took another 3 weeks or more for it to finally get it all gone. But once it is finally done, there wasn't a trace though. I would recommend adding some lazer blue to your mix (it is just a temporary blue dye to help see where you sprayed). It is especially helpful if you are using a standard sprayer and not a professional grade sprayer. Oh, and take care not to spray on hedges or bushes. It shouldn't kill it, but they are going to look ugly for a while (another mistake I made).

[@cadia26]

The honey bees love my creeping charlie, and I'm not sure who the T`Zone Herbacide will injure, I'll keep the low growing vine with the pretty flowers!

[@FannyVonFluff]

Thank you! This guy's spraying chemicals that he won't touch with his hands into the environment...

[@toab]

Actually a terrible plant for a bee/pollinator friendly lawn. 😂 Less than 10% of the flowers produce nectar. Those bees do not love it, they're searching for a "lucky hit". It also doesn't provide much pollen for the bees to lug home (protein).

[@florence775]

When I lived in California, I bought creeping Charlie as a plant, loved it. Don’t have it here in Arkansas, night blooming jasmine either, really wish I could have that!

[@ryanmcgowan3061]

Triclopyr definitely works better in the growing season. I used it on other vines in my lawn, and did two applications about a week apart. It works really well, but not so much in the fall.

[@chiefbeef7265]

When do you suggest using that product

[@ryanmcgowan3061]

@@chiefbeef7265 Right now, if you're in the northern hemisphere. Late summer it starts to be ineffective, and by fall it's nearly worthless.

[@judyfrench7004]

I live in Canada and we are banned from using anything like this. We are not allowed to even buy it on line or in the stores. Do you know of anything else that I could spray on it?

[@Hello-Emily]

This stuff is taking over my lawn! Thank you so much for the tips

[@hfrt29]

same!

[@ritalouise4786]

I have it in my yard. I don't suppose it's edible by any chance?

[@oldtimefarmboy617]

Add some liquid soap or surfactant the mixture will spread out and cover the leaves better. Most plants have a waxy like surface on the upper-side to prevent moisture loss and that can cause your spray to bead up and not soak in as good. Also, add a small amount of liquid fertilizer and the weed will take what it soak up and transport the spray mix quicker through out the plant and roots.

[@melindalemmon2149]

SOAP WILL NOT WORK,ONLY A NONIONIC SURFACTANT

[@oldtimefarmboy617]

@@melindalemmon2149 Both will work. Soap is a surfactant just like all of the others sold just as a surfactant. The main purpose of soap and any other surfactant is to enable oil and water to combine with each other and to break the surface tension of water so it will spread out rather than bead up. As far as herbicides and insecticides are concerned, all types of surfactants will do that. The main difference between ionic and non-ionic surfactants is that ionic surfactants have an electrical charge where non-surfactants do not. I do not think that the bugs and plants you are killing are going to care much about what type of surfactant you are using.

[@DirtyJobsGuy1]

Per another one of your videos, I ordered this product last year, it worked great, but my problem came back towards the end of this season. I’m glad you reposted this video, I wasn’t certain this would be effective in the fall. For some reason, I thought it was for spring only.

[@kansasgardener5844]

This product might work and I definitely have creeping Charlie in my yard but this kills bees and other beneficial insects. As you can see I garden so this is a no go for me for sure.

[@JeffSmith-eq3kc]

I'm pretty careful about chemicals that are toxic to bees and Triclopyr doesn't kill bees or insects. It could impact flowers that bees populate but triclopyr doesn't directly kill bees or other insects. There have been a number of studies showing that triclopyr is non toxic to bees and insects including a very recent EPA study. It's been around a long time so you can find a number of studies that all show the same thing.

[@smmcknnn]

Jeff is right that this isn’t considered an insecticide, but if you’re looking for something that is more natural, borax (detergent booster) works great.

[@kevins5092]

I use Triplet SF, it takes care of a lot of yard weeds. You should also use a surfactant to help the herbicide to adhere to the plants better

[@samsever123]

Label says not to use surfactant. Could damage turf

[@stacyburden-pravato346]

Weather has been hot & wet this fall in Michigan, just right for Creeping Charlie to multiple. My husband & I just walked our acre yard after mowing & just were discussing the abundant crop of CC. Your video couldn't have come at a more opportune time. I will definitely try Tzone.

[@stupidass3791]

I’m in Michigan too. Charlie and clovers really like this season in my yard too.

[@louisfragale1426]

Yes, T-Zone is the best. But I look forward to the Creeping Charlie showing Ryan who is in charge.

[@christinerobinson9372]

I love Creeping Charlie. I'm purposely cultivating it. It's easy to mow. It blocks out the dandelions and plantains (I call them bobbleheads). I think it's pretty, and when it flowers, it is beautiful.

[@blwnvtwn]

Finally, someone else that loves it. I have it in my back, side lawn and am trying to figure the best way to transfer it to a hill above my back yard that is impossible to cut except with a string trimmer. Any thoughts, I'm afraid plugging won't get enough root to propagate well. (Not too mention leaving holes in the ground of the existing patch) And can't find any seeds to simply plant.

[@chriscain4014]

Tenacity seems to work well, it's not instant so give it a week or two before you panic and assume it's not working. I bought it on Amazon along with a surfactant and dye.

[@Hereford1020]

Creeping charlie as you call it makes a good tea after you dry it

[@jasongCLJ]

Just the flowers or the leaves ?

[@EasyModeFishing]

Scalping your lawn will kill that stuff too. I do a scalping every winter once the grass first starts to green up and it makes the grass green up much faster

[@davehill7257]

I fought with Charlie for several years with little success. My wife and I spent hours pulling up the roots with dinner forks by using them to get under the roots. too much trouble for the results. I was told to try Weed B Gone and double the dosage. Charlie lost! I still get it at times but a shot of WBG and I'm good to go.

[@andreaberryman5354]

I've got bellflower that's "creeping" from neighbors. 😡

[@williamsturley6631]

I agree WBG kills creeping charlie- but be careful not to over spray- WBG overdone can kill the grass. I spray very lightly trying to just get the WBG on the creeping charlie leaves. Need to keep at it because the creeping charlie is in my wife's flower gardens and I am a dead man if I even think about spraying the creeping charlie in her gardens.

[@davehill7257]

@@williamsturley6631 I could not agree with you more about your wife's flower garden. My wife has a veggie garden and she would probably SENSE it if I had any notion of spraying anything near that. So I don't! We had a woman out a few years ago to spray some tough weeds that we had and she's the one who told me about WBG on the weeds. But she told me to double the amount of it in water then I might have to spray charlie twice or even three times. I had an ongoing battle with that stuff but I have it under control now. Now I have another pest called fig buttercup, which has a yellow flower in the spring but which goes in June. The plant keeps growing underground but the flower is gone. The only thing I can use to kill it is Knockout, which USED to be sold at Lowes but now I can only get it online. The problem with it is kills anything around the weed and in the spring I must add some soil to where I sprayed it this past summer. I guess we'll always have weeds.

[@sharongauss9298]

I have a 50 foot bed of peonies and hosta. The neighbor’s creeping Charlie is getting into my flower bed ( no, he doesn’t care about his lawn or weeds). If I paint this stuff on the Charlie weed, will it damage my flowers?

[@Tig3rj]

Yea..I have a ton of it, Creep Charlie, on the side of my yard because of my neighbor!! He doesn't do crap in his lawn and it spreads over into mine!

[@alexlockett9251]

My neighbor is the same. I’ve been getting into lawn care recently and kind of think it’s useless because she doesn’t do anything and has a lawn of 100% weeds

[@ryanknorrlawncare]

welcome to my life

[@theresachiorazzi4571]

No matter how much time and money you spend there’s always one kind of weed or another coming through I even put down a sod carpet and guess what .. it’s coming through the carpet. I’m not letting it get to me anymore.

[@robbinporter402]

I love Creeping Chalie. I have transplanted some into hanging baskets. They are beautiful.

[@RobWhittlestone]

Hey Ryan - perfect timing - I have Creeping Charlie (called 'Gundelrebe' in German) on my lawn in northwest Switzerland. I have watered it with a specific herbicide but the reaction is very slow, I may repeat it. I wish we could get those American products over here! The idea is to kill off the Creeping Charlie before verticutting/scarifying and overseeding in late autumn, before growth shuts down for winter. I really appreciate your channel! All the best, Rob

[@interstellarconveyance4865]

Triclopyr based herbicides are amongst the most Toxic and harmful chemicals known. They permanently leach down into the water table where they remain. Triclopyr's don't break down. They are directly related to birth defects in all aquatic life. Juvenile trout, Salmon, nematodes, frogs, toads and all beneficial water loving insects. The product you are promoting kills EVERYTHING. There is a strong chemical toxicity warning to keep children away from the spray as it causes permanent brain damage if inhaled. Do not use this product. Is it better to poison the drinking water and the animals? Or is it better to pull by hand? I suggest pulling. This product is currently being scrutinized by the EPA and has already been banned in several states. please do your due diligence and read between the lines. Corporations want you to help them dispose of their toxic derivatives generated by other manufactured compounds. This stuff is Bad News. Putting it into a sprayer is absolutely the worst because molecular sized particles get in your eyes, clothing and respiratory system. Make sure you avoid pet and child exposure and you must remain away from the sprayed area for a full 7 days to maximize reduction of exposure. Bad News. Poor planet.

[@smmcknnn]

Try borax! 1/2 cup per gallon

[@mikehotaling]

I use this and love the results. I do notice it takes a little over a week to see good results.

[@drewthompson7457]

we need a Canadian version for lawn weeds. the government has outlawed most yard products,

[@angelabluebird609]

Another poster wrote Creeping Charlie repels ticks and mosquitos while attracting pollinators. Some of us in the US utilize plants like this as a lawn substitute. Much better for us and the environment! PS We only need as much, "lawn", of any kind, as we use for recreation. Grass is the most labor intensive, costly ground cover. Best Wishes!

[@drewthompson7457]

@@bndergltd3053 : unfortunately, we do have people that figure if a ounce is good, 10 gallons is better.

[@SAL-se4ki]

@@drewthompson7457 Don’t punish everyone to control a minority. That’s the problem with Canada

[@schmitty69]

T zone killed my creeping Charlie and kicked my wild violets back a little bit. I need to spray (once the rain stops) again and get rid of my violet problem. I hope T zone can do it! I've tried MANY products and it's been working the best so far.

[@bl8388]

It's as serious as the title. My family let some of that grow in our yard just for a week. It ran off with my house, kids, wife, car, neighbors, etc. Boy, am I glad it happened. It afforded me a new start. A reset. Cheers, "creeping Charlie," (Holds up a beer stein). And wherever my family, is, I hope things are cool.

[@nancyhawn3321]

Lol!

[@nhifaw1]

My greenworks dethatcher was able to get most it. The soil was a little moist which helped remove the roots

[@fanceypantsable]

I love my creeping Charlie and violets. So pretty and they help the pollinators. Love making Violet tea and putting it in my salads and the creeping Charlie has many medicinal values. ❤

[@prestonberg9604]

Wrong

[@yesican2012]

From the Siberian Cedar Land site, and many other sites: By Milla Ezman, May 9, 2018 Edited by Jisselle Regis "Ground Ivy, better known as creeping Charlie is a balsamic mint that came to us from Europe and has spread throughout much of North America. There was a time when ground ivy was very well accepted for its therapeutic, as well as its culinary properties. But, currently it is considered a weed because it invades lawns. Ground Ivy contains a volatile oil which aids in relieving congestion and inflammation of mucous membranes associated with colds, flu, and sinusitis. Ground ivy tea or juice is well tolerated and can be given to small children. The Herb was reportedly used for centuries to prevent and treat a type of lead poisoning called “painter’s colic” and other heavy metals, making it a great herb to add to a detox formula. This herb is also a great diuretic, helping to eliminate waste and toxins from the kidneys and liver. Herbalists Matthew Wood and David Winston have both used ground ivy for mercury poisoning. It is also beneficial for liver and kidney function, since it is said to relieve gravel and stones. Combined with Yarrow or/and Chamomile Flowers it is used to make a poultice for abscesses, gatherings and tumors. Ground ivy has a reputation for being a tonic for the kidneys and bladder. It is used as a bitter tonic, as a nutritive tea high in Vitamin C, and as an excellent remedy for a stubborn cough. The fresh leaf can be bruised and applied to ease cuts and insect bites. If you search this plant on the internet you will find a lot of information on how to kill it once it has invaded your lawn. Gardeners hate the Creeping Charlie! Needless to say - I have it everywhere now! It is quite invasive, but because I know how beneficial the Herb is, he and I are in a very good symbiotic relationship!... "...Key actions: Antibacterial, Antiviral, Antiseptic, Anti-inflammatory, Anti-allergenic, Antihistamine, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic, Anti-tumor, Expectorant, Diuretic, Tonic, Immune-stimulant, gentle Sedative. Uses: colds, flu, sinusitis, digestive disorders, gastritis, diarrhea, kidney & Liver diseases, indigestion, lead & mercury poisoning. Arthritis. Joint and muscle pain (rheumatism). Ringing in the ears (tinnitus). Diarrhea. Hemorrhoids. Stomach problems. Bladder and Kidney stones. Wounds or other skin conditions, when applied directly to the skin. Constituents: Vitamin C, flavanoids, volatile oil, sesquiterpenes, a bitter principle (glechomine), caffeic acids and tannins..."

[@zachbowyer6305]

And it requires little to no mowing which is a blessing on steep wooded lots like mine!

[@bobwardjr.526]

Oh yeah what would that be if you don't mind me asking

[@prestonberg9604]

@@sbinsdca not denying that she’s correct I just don’t want a yard overrun with it is all

[@dje9834]

I used to have nearly blind elderly man I did private duty with. Every time we would leave to go to a doctor's appt. he would say "I've got the prettiest green grass". I didn't have the heart to tell him it was ALL creeping Charlie.

[@ryanp8754]

Ironic timing for this video. I just had a VERY light case of this in my lawn (I actually didn't realize what it was). I immediately ordered some Tzone and I'm glad I did since it sounds like thats one of the best choices for our area. Thank you for the excellent content as always!

[@jakemccluremd]

Yep, same experience; making a note of this on the calendar to prevent it next fall

[@cd7071]

Thanks for the helpful info and video. I noticed there are a lot of. Creeping Charlie fans on here, who love bashing those who use “chemicals” against weeds. I guess next they will be handcuffing themselves to weeds..

[@komaboi19]

You've got to develop a feel for it when finding the root. Once you get a bit of the root/runner, move it back and forth while easing it up, and you'll be more likely to get more of it without tearing the grass out of the ground with it. Make note of the weather as well--it can have a big effect on the ease of getting the runners out.

[@abdielrainbowhellsangel2256]

Specifically rain. Soft, wet soil is much easier to remove them from.

[@lizedur4976]

Another big factor to consider is the moon phase. Always weed during the waning phase-4th phase the best. When moon is getting smaller. Weeds then come out by the roots instead of breaking off. Also, in colder climes right after spring thaw is the best time to weed. The ground has lifted and the roots are loose. Waning moon after spring thaw is a real winner!

[@im58woody]

T-Zone is the best thing for Creeping Charlie! I had a terrible problem with it here in Maryland and it took care of it and excessive clover really well. The two seem to go hand in hand. Weed B Gone had hardly any effects on it. The warmer it is the quicker you can see if working. Don’t waste your time and money on anything else.

[@zmachine1690]

Ever used Hi-Yield Triclopyr?

[@im58woody]

@@zmachine1690 No, is it effective for Charlie?

[@zmachine1690]

@@im58woody I ended up going crossbow and it worked well

[@im58woody]

@@zmachine1690 Thanks I will be checking that out. My Charlie is back this year

[@zmachine1690]

@@im58woody best time to hit is the fall but could do one round now and another round fall

[@ilunalicious_yt9647]

Hi Ryan! Great piece on eradicating creeping Charlie! However I have a eco question before I use this in my rural New Jersey yard. We use well water exclusively for everything in and around our home, will using Tzone cause any be problems like contamination for our well water source in years to come?

[@lestermcmurray577]

I have a well also and wonder the same about a lot of things but as usual he seldom answers questions!

[@markb8954]

I looked up TZONE specimen label. Bottom line, don’t use around wells & ground water. www.cdms.net/ldat/ldBUF008.pdf

[@katk7925]

Birds and beasts don't have a chance to worry..why should you? It's good for them, right?

[@martinmaddox5315]

Being a senior citizen, I’ve seen several products that worked well, weed killers, flea killers for applying on pets, etc recalled for being carcinogenic. A friend of mine was spraying the walls of our hunting club for spiders, while some of us were asleep. I insisted he not spray inside. He used “safe” roundup he said everywhere including his garden, “for 20 years”. His son developed a rare cancer later attributed to possibly round up. 65 years ago my family was staying in a rental small block home in new Smyrna beach Florida. The mosquito sprayer came by several nights during our one week stay going down the streets leaving a cloud of mist over the area . I remember seeing people sitting outside smoking as the fog drifted over them. My dad made us go inside, close all windows( no ac) and he put a towel under the door til the fog lifted. The fog was probably DDT, a known strong cause of cancer, if not some other substance harmful to humans. I used roundup years ago on my country farm. I would wait til there was a light breeze. Start downwind and work my way upwind so that the substance was always downwind. Also, always wear long gloves in that most sprayers will leak on you.

[@christal2641]

Yes! It will enter your groundwater.There is a reason you can't sell these poisons in the E. U.

[@darla218]

What works for me is the Round Up weed killer that’s safe for lawns. Once it browns a little I pull it all. That way the roots are dead if you don’t pull it all. Then dethatch and or aerate. Lay some grass seed and fertilizer down down and it’s beautiful next spring and fills in nicely. 😊

[@toyo86]

So what happens if its sprouting 3 weeks after seeding would it affect my new tall fescue? Also does tenacity work for that?

[@wat2000]

I’m in the same boat as you so tenacity as a pre emergent has helped to contain it in my yard but with out the surfactant it’s not going to be a great option. I completed my lawn reno and in the back yard this is in the dead center. I was going to let it do it’s thing until spring to be honest. New grass is too fragile sad to say.

[@stump1897]

To keep my neighbors problem in their yard i found tenacity plus speed zone is the easiest non borax way to take care of it. Over 2 years I’ve beaten it back 30 feet.

[@ryanknorrlawncare]

I would probably try to pull anything by hand you can and let the grass get going before spraying.

[@mbww8572]

Creeping Charlie is a fine looking plant. I used some D4,4 to get rid of dandelions and it also killed the creeping Charlie and all the clover. Plus it made the grass sickly. What a disaster. Never again! I’m back to spot-spraying the worst of the dandelions with roundup and the creeping Charlie can do as it likes. A full year later and sadly very little clover is back.

[@ILGuy2012]

A couple years ago, the city replaced some sections of the sidewalk along my yard. After the concrete was cured and after the forms were removed, they brought in some black dirt to fill in around the concrete. Unfortunately, the black dirt had creeping charlie seeds in it. I didn't realize it was growing there until I mowed and could smell the unmistakable scent of creeping charlie. Fortunately, it was a small area, so I pulled it out. I'll have to keep checking it, in case it comes back. I wish I would've told them I would take care of filling dirt in around the concrete. I have a lot of wild strawberry in my yard, which sends runners out like creeping charlie and is hard to control, too. I just don't need to add another invasive weed in my yard. LOL

[@humblewisdom8976]

I had the same thing happen when we got a new sidewalk. But it was this grass that looked like it came from a swamp. It would grow quickly in single like stands but in a weeks time could be a foot tall. easy to spot though and easy to pull out. That was ten years ago and every year I still find a few trying to grow.

[@alexreyes9628]

@@humblewisdom8976 sounds like nutsedge , it grows real long real fast during the summer time. Light green in color. If it’s that you should use sedgehammer to control it.

[@gouthamreddy2941]

I have similar thing in my lawn. I want to remove them and reseed my lawn. How long do I need to wait before reseeding?

[@svenfischer4340]

First German. Best wishes from Berlin

[@TinyBasementWorkshop]

Second one as well 😜 Best wishes from Duisburg!

[@svenfischer4340]

@@TinyBasementWorkshop Ich mag seine Videos und seine Musik. Cooler Typ. Folge ihm und Connor Ward, sowie natürlich unserem Rasenfreak Andreas Krauss. 🦩🦩⛳️

[@rick3747]

Creeping Charlie was a great show. Bridget was wonderful. 😊

[@philbro11]

I've never tried T-zone. I just use spectracide weedstop or ortho weedclear for and it works okay after 2 applications on creeping charlie, but wild violet is really stubborn. I will have to try out this product next year!

[@cynthiahoward9495]

I think I might start sharing mine with everyone

[@paulpittman5872]

Hey Ryan question for ya... do you have to get rid of creeping charlie and crab grass before seeding an old lawn?? I just moved to a new house and the lawn wasn't taken care of. Awesome videos so far!!

[@jaydenkensinger7577]

I would make sure weeds are gone. May be good to go with glysophate if there’s no grass there. Just have to wait for whatever time period you need to seed the area after. Could also go with 24D or something similar if there’s good grass there and you’re just going to overseed.

[@christal2641]

@@jaydenkensinger7577 Roundup (glyphosate) is a known human carcinogen. Monsanto/Bayer is paying out for a great many cancer cases now.

[@MartinBeberman]

60 years ago my neighbor paid me to weed creeping charlie in my yard. My mom liked that arrangement.

[@brocksargeant1134]

In my experience creeping Charlie is relatively benign...while hell itself cannot kill wild violets.

[@halcooper6059]

I've learned that wild violets have a substantial root system. I use the old fashioned forked dandelion removing tool on the larger wild violets. The root balls take some soil with it that I backfill.

[@soupsandwich8940]

I eat them, flowers and all.

[@Quadcopter101]

My lawn was way worse than what's shown in this video. But T-Zone SE is no joke. It nuked the ground ivy while leaving my lawn in good shape. It's also great for other hard to rid weeds too, like nettle. There's one thing that should be mentioned though. After eradication with T-Zone, it's a good idea to mow your lawn at your mower's highest (or close to highest) setting. A deep thick lawn can shade out the reestablishment of most weeds (including ground ivy). The weeds just can't get restarted as the deep lawn blocks sunlight near the soil surface.

[@quantumtimelines2846]

You can't compost the clippings then . You MUST throw it away when you use herbicide!!!!! Please don't put it in the community compost bin!

[@Quadcopter101]

@@quantumtimelines2846 I never collect grass clippings for compost. Instead I use a mulching mower. The clippings stay on the lawn to compost there. That way your not removing nutrients from your lawn as when you dispose of grass clippings. The same goes for tree leaves in the fall. They get mulched also.

[@truthofthematter9409]

@@Quadcopter101 a mulching mower only chops the tops off of Creeping Charlie and promotes the small pieces (mulched) to root and grow even more.

[@Quadcopter101]

@@truthofthematter9409 Use a mulching mower only after you eradicate the ground ivy with T-Zone SE.

[@truthofthematter9409]

@@Quadcopter101 OH ok! Yeah I was worried because that's exactly how I spread mine further and worse. I love my mulch mower and will continue using it but realize it's helped me spread this booger of a weed. Thanks for clarifying

[@1kanderson2]

Pulling creeping charlie is as satisfying and popping a pimple. I've zoned out for 2 to 3 hours pulling creeping charlie and loved every second of it. Felt like 10 minutes. I almost wished it would grow back so I could start pulling again.

[@kyleparker775]

Me too. Good music during a nice evening. Do it a few times a year. I have non Hodgkin lymphoma already, so I try to avoid chemicals.

[@1kanderson2]

@@kyleparker775 Ahh good idea with adding the music! I get so zoned out I never even thought of playing music! :)

[@mongo2044]

You are welcome to pull my yard and the neighbor’s yards any time!

[@leifandresen3817]

I have this in my small lawn. It stays green all summer and I have mowed three times since May. WIN!

[@dylan8285]

You will never get rid of Creeping Charlie any little bit left will grow. I've taken care of the problem in my grass over the past few years. Dicamba is the key to frying it but even me doing that it still shows up randomly through the lawn and I spot spray as soon as I notice, i dont mess around with this crap anymore it will take over in no time

[@tc5691]

Txone has Dicamba in it.

[@quercus4730]

Maybe your cutting your grass too short, most broadleaf plants can't compete with grass.

[@dylan8285]

No it’s actually the other way around it does better in taller cut grass. Like my backyard I keep it at a 1in cut and it struggles to grow

[@m.a.8425]

I spray borax on them and it drys it out. Also broadleaf herbicide containing tricolpyr or dicamba

[@Syrion84]

Ryan, do you know of any treatment to remedy a whole-lawn fungus that is killing my sod roots in patches and causing my entire lawn to look like a mushroom-farm? Should I use a broad-spectrum fungicide like Propiconazole 14.3 to get it under control first , then dethatch, overseed with peat moss and fertilize to re-establish and regrow?

[@thomasblaine3193]

Your location doesn't seem ideal for grass... hence issues. Before you use a broad spectrum fungicide that may make things worse. When was the last time the soil was tested? the grass may be susceptible to pathogens from a nutrient deficiency or ph imbalance. Plants need 17 elements not just NPK. You might have there site related issues like lack of sun. Grass might be the wrong plant for that location and nothing you do will fix it.

[@jasongCLJ]

Sprinkle ground cinnamon all over it. √ Seriously. Antifungal.

[@djratino]

Neem oil works wonders on fungus control. I use the 70% concentrate. Follow instructions to thin it down. Some require dish detergent for a bonding agent. Garden Safe brand doesn't require the dish detergent from Lowe's.

[@michaelscott356]

When you fellas are saying "fungus", are you referring to moss? Low level fuzzy green stuff?

[@Syrion84]

@@michaelscott356 No Mike, like straight-up white creeping mold/fungus. Almost looks like if a spiderweb was made out of mushroom fungi spread all over the soil when you pull the dead grass up.

[@joshm340]

I go with Crossbow since it has Triclopyr + 2,4-D and hits a wider selection of weeds. Just make sure it is safer for your grass type, and be very careful to not hit any nearby shrubs.

[@ElevatedLawnscapes]

I have to battle these on my property line with one of my neighbors. So last year I sprayed theirs for them 😂 and no issues this year

[@cali58kid]

Lol I always make sure I spray extra wide when going along my neighbor's yard

[@bogeyonanostrilhair9568]

I grow my own grass in tubs and in sheets. I patch my lawn where ever and when ever I see something unwanted. I sprinkle grass seeds and lawn feed each spring, and water throughout the year with my dirty fish tank water. This year is the third lawn year and I've not had to patch anything so far this year. My lawn is looking great.

[@openskies11]

Yeah, I'm one of the people who don't consider this a problem. Creeping Charlie never grows very tall, so it does not have to be mowed as often as grass. Therefore Creeping Charlie > grass.

[@kimpulsipher647]

Me too. I would rather have a yard of ground cover that wants to grow than grass that doesn't.

[@CMCraftsman]

I used the ortho product from HD that hooks up to the hose and it took care of it in one application. Now I can pick them when I see a couple leaves pop up here and there.

[@thinkitthendoit3224]

Hey Ryan, so I am seeing a lot of landscapers using miro-clover in yards because of it's versatility to reduce water use and the fact it fert's the soil. What are you seeing and are you just completely against clover?

[@GratefulOutlook]

I have a clover lawn. Love it. Low maintenance and green all summer , chokes out dandelions 🍀

[@epluribusunum1460]

@@GratefulOutlook yay! You have inspired me to let the clover flow in my front & back yard, thank you.

[@thinkitthendoit3224]

@@GratefulOutlook thanks Dave

[@Dave-ib5kn]

T-Zone worked great for creeping Charlie and everything else but the wild violets turned brown on the leaves and the stems grew fast and curled over but after 2 weeks and several mows it was like they were never sprayed. After 5 days I was convinced everything was going to die, but it recovered so fast.

[@rickyburford2012]

Would like to have seen close up view, so we could identify creepy Charlie. Btw is this like creepy Joe?

[@564df6g5h4d6f5g4h6d5]

Creepy Joe? 😂

[@maryloushaw6858]

So glad to find this video... because I have that stuff... didn't know what it was called...it's taking over

[@tflanagan]

I have been using tenacity all summer and it hasn’t done much to the creeping Charlie in my yard. Have you found TZone to be more effective than tenacity?

[@WeatherNut27]

Check out his video from 2019 where he shows the results. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4Wmp4KYl6-jd6s

[@jerryg.3080]

In my experience, T-Zone will work better on CC & wild violet than Tenacity alone as it has the preferred ingredients.

[@vickitaber4680]

I have a small dog - is it safe to use?

[@kdasilva2467]

As I have seen in comments people tend to use chemicals for these "issues". I suggest people not to, when their purpose aint to have an uniform grass only lawn. You can have a beautiful garden as well with different kind of gramineaes having a more meadow kind of approach to your lawn, plus it will benefit the ecosystem around you. And by no means you will have an uglier look on your garden, as long as you maintain it as you would if you didnt have any weeds

[@ryanknorrlawncare]

You missed the part where I said "to each their own"

[@youtuuba]

I used to have an extensive invasion of Creeping Charlie on my lawn; it comes in from a neighbor's ;awn that seems to be mostly Creeping Charlie. Here is how I eliminated it: - I just use the Weed-B-Gon product, in concentrate, in the version that specifically says it works on Creeping Charlie. The first time I used it, I called the manufacturer's hot-line and a representative said the best way to use it was in the Fall when the grass is not growing much, and does not need weekly mowings, yet the daytime temperature is still up around 50 degrees F. I used a backpack sprayer, mixed the concentrate at about 150% of what was recommended on the label (e.g. if the label says use 1 tablespoon of concentrate per gallon of water, I used 1.5 tablespoons per gallon. I sprayed the infected area of the lawn thoroughly, not soaking it but definitely spraying enough that I could see the Creeping Charlie leaves appearing wet. I sprayed at mid-day or early afternoon. One week later I sprayed again. The following week, I sprayed for a third time (this was all according to what the representative advised). Then I left it alone. The leaves never looked very much like anything was happening, but the representative told me that the idea was to apply enough of the product when the Creeping Charlie was trying to store nutrients in its vines/roots to last over the Winter, and that this happens in the Fall when the plant is still actively growing and storing. The next Spring, there was no Creeping Charlie to be seen anywhere. After about three years, enough Creeping Charlie had infiltrated my lawn from the neighbor's lawn that I had to repeat the treatment. - In my front lawn, the Creeping Charlie was much less wide spread, just a little here and there. In this case, I used regular Roundup, not the concentrate but the kind that comes in a spray bottle. I removed the sprayer cap from the bottle and poured a little into an upended cap from a spray paint can. I sat that onto a few layers of paper towel, and that in turn onto a wide shallow plate. The idea here is that it sits low to the lawn and is not likely to flip, or tip over, and any spillage from the cup will be absorbed by the paper towel instead of running around on the plate and possibly making its way onto the lawn. I get a few Q-tips (cotton swabs), and set the plate down near a small patch of the Creeping Charlie, and dipping the Q-tip into the Roundup cup, I would touch it to randomly selected Creeping Charlie leaves, perhaps one touch every 3" x 3" area of the CC. In a few days ALL the Creeping Charlie leaves would be brown and shriveled, and soon there would be no trace of the CC, and it never came back. This method is too tedious to use on a large area, but it works very well for small patches, and can be used any time of the season, and gets very quick results, and is permanent.