This XingYi Master is CRAZY FAST!

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Kevin Lee

Kevin Lee

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@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 8 ай бұрын
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@danielchao6041
@danielchao6041 8 ай бұрын
Where's the Real Sparring?? Demonstration doesn't prove anything.
@Silirion
@Silirion 8 ай бұрын
Really loved this one! Thanks Kevin! ❤
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
Good video. When I was in China I would do, in a day, a couple of hours of TCMA or so then about the same amount of time with a Western teacher/MMA based style. This is because the mindsets have many overlaps, but people struggle with this idea. For example Pi and Beng in a style such as Xing Yi have many similarities to straight punches in boxing and you can train these 4 strikes simultaneously with the essentials mechanics or ‘energies’ in mind. Similarly liu he fa or ‘6 harmony method’, a concept found in Chinese styles, would just be considered ‘good shadow boxing form’ if focusing on power rather than strategy, in boxing, for example. It’s not wrong to admit where there are flaws in a style either, of course, it hardly needs mentioning. I would generally encourage people to be ‘full spectrum’ which means if you think qi gong is a load of BS, you should go and train some qi gong. If you think sparring and competing is BS you should do just that (focussing on what interests you most, of course, but working in order to ‘fill out the spectrum’). Xing Yi, and TMA people, tend to shy away from sparring for example, although you could make the case that a lot of Japanese styles, for example, didn’t shy away from injection of such modern developments attached to traditional forms with styles as kudo, kyukoshin, kendo etc. in other words, the realisation can exist that to add aspects of ‘sportification’ or ‘to gamication’ doesn’t really meant ‘to make worse’ (the opposite in fact since we are no longer farm hardened workers as we all once were and as martial artists once were). Pi chuan, for example, can be practiced almost as a heavy open hand type of jab with a slightly chopping quality, in its sparring incarnation, making it very slightly different from a boxing jab. ‘very slightly different’ might be an insult to some people, but that’s not really an insult when it comes to the realities of sparring. The evasion and footwork of MMA tends to be highly advanced, so it is necessary to learn, but you could develop and work on some of the Xing Yi style footwork concepts. Fighters who use ‘flat footed’ strikes, in combat sports, as Xing Yi does, are hardly an anomaly, for example. A sparring version of Xing Yi could have some Pancrase type ruleset features and a kudo style helmet (since many of its strikes are open hand and even come at strange angles). It could have Sanda style clinch rules but maybe you would have even less time in the clinch than Sanda or a stronger emphasis on almost sumo style heavy/quick/push based takedowns. This might not even need to be hard sparring, depending on what your goals are, just ways to keep you from delusions door. Or course, ‘internal stuff’ found in styles such as Xing Yi, winds a lot of people up, and rightly so sometimes, as you meet internal peope, and I say this inironically, who have chi flow to all the wrong places. Either way, facia, tendon and electro-elastic tensegrity training is something which sports science increasingly accepts to be complimentary
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
Good video. When I was in China I would do, in a day, a couple of hours of TCMA or so then about the same amount of time with a Western teacher/MMA based style. This is because the mindsets have many overlaps, but people struggle with this idea. For example Pi and Beng in a style such as Xing Yi have many similarities to straight punches in boxing and you can train these 4 strikes simultaneously with the essentials mechanics or ‘energies’ in mind. Similarly liu he fa or ‘6 harmony method’, a concept found in Chinese styles, would just be considered ‘good shadow boxing form’ if focusing on power rather than strategy, in boxing, for example. It’s not wrong to admit where there are flaws in a style either, of course, it hardly needs mentioning. I would generally encourage people to be ‘full spectrum’ which means if you think qi gong is a load of nonsense, you should go and train some qi gong. If you think sparring and competing is nonsense you should do just that (focussing on what interests you most, of course, but working in order to ‘fill out the spectrum’). Xing Yi, and TMA people, tend to shy away from sparring for example, although you could make the case that a lot of Japanese styles, for example, didn’t shy away from injection of such modern developments attached to traditional forms with styles as kudo, kyukoshin, kendo etc. in other words, the realisation can exist that to add aspects of ‘sportification’ or ‘to gamication’ doesn’t really meant ‘to make worse’ (the opposite in fact since we are no longer farm hardened workers as we all once were and as martial artists once were). Pi chuan, for example, can be practiced almost as a heavy open hand type of jab with a slightly chopping quality, in its sparring incarnation, making it very slightly different from a boxing jab. ‘very slightly different’ might be an insult to some people, but that’s not really an insult when it comes to the realities of sparring. The evasion and footwork of MMA tends to be highly advanced, so it is necessary to learn, but you could develop and work on some of the Xing Yi style footwork concepts. Fighters who use ‘flat footed’ strikes, in combat sports, as Xing Yi does, are hardly an anomaly, for example. A sparring version of Xing Yi could have some Pancrase type ruleset features and a kudo style helmet (since many of its strikes are open hand and even come at strange angles). It could have Sanda style clinch rules but maybe you would have even less time (or perhaps, contrarily, more time) allowed in the clinch compared to Sanda, or a stronger emphasis on almost sumo style heavy/quick/push based takedowns, since Xing Yi likes forward motion. This might not even need to be hard sparring, depending on what your goals are, just ways to keep you from delusions door. Or course, ‘internal stuff’ found in styles such as Xing Yi, winds a lot of people up, and rightly so sometimes, as you meet internal peope, and I say this inironically, who have chi flow to all the wrong places. Either way, facia, tendon and electro-elastic tensegrity training is something which sports science increasingly accepts to be complimentary
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
Good video. When I was in China I would do, in a day, a couple of hours of TCMA or so then about the same amount of time with a Western teacher/MMA based style. This is because the mindsets have many overlaps, but people struggle with this idea. For example Pi and Beng in a style such as Xing Yi have many similarities to straight punches in boxing and you can train these 4 strikes simultaneously with the essentials mechanics or ‘energies’ in mind. Similarly liu he fa or ‘6 harmony method’, a concept found in Chinese styles, would just be considered ‘good shadow boxing form’ if focusing on power rather than strategy, in boxing, for example. It’s not wrong to admit where there are flaws in a style either, of course, it hardly needs mentioning. I would generally encourage people to be ‘full spectrum’ which means if you think qi gong is a load of nonsense, you should go and train some qi gong. If you think sparring and competing is nonsense you should do just that (focussing on what interests you most, of course, but working in order to ‘fill out the spectrum’). Xing Yi, and TMA people, tend to shy away from sparring for example, although you could make the case that a lot of Japanese styles, for example, didn’t shy away from injection of such modern developments attached to traditional forms with styles as kudo, kyukoshin, kendo etc. in other words, the realisation can exist that to add aspects of ‘sportification’ or ‘to gamication’ doesn’t really meant ‘to make worse’ (the opposite in fact since we are no longer farm hardened workers as we all once were and as martial artists once were). Pi chuan, for example, can be practiced almost as a heavy open hand type of jab with a slightly chopping quality, in its sparring incarnation, making it very slightly different from a boxing jab. ‘very slightly different’ might be an insult to some people, but that’s not really an insult when it comes to the realities of sparring. The evasion and footwork of MMA tends to be highly advanced, so it is necessary to learn, but you could develop and work on some of the Xing Yi style footwork concepts. Fighters who use ‘flat footed’ strikes, in combat sports, as Xing Yi does, are hardly an anomaly, for example. A sparring version of Xing Yi could have some Pancrase type ruleset features and a kudo style helmet (since many of its strikes are open hand and even come at strange angles). It could have Sanda style clinch rules but maybe you would have even less time (or perhaps, contrarily, more time) allowed in the clinch compared to Sanda, or a stronger emphasis on almost sumo style heavy/quick/push based takedowns, since Xing Yi likes forward motion. This might not even need to be hard sparring, depending on what your goals are, just ways to keep you from delusions door. Or course, ‘internal stuff’ found in styles such as Xing Yi, winds a lot of people up, and rightly so sometimes, as you meet internal peope, and I say this inironically. Either way, facia, tendon and electro-elastic tensegrity training is something which sports science increasingly accepts to be complimentarY
@NLLHW
@NLLHW 8 ай бұрын
I know he's just demonstrating (not real sparring, not actually pressure testing, etc.) but you can tell by his movements that his body control and speed is incredible.
@rithrean
@rithrean 8 ай бұрын
I agree. He also doesn't have a muscle bulky frame, but an average normal fit body type, and you can just tell by his movements that he has crazy power coming from his inner strength and flow in movement.
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
You still need MMA type training to make styles such as this, and all TMA, effective (against dangerous attackers of course against drunks etc traditional arts can work) and this is coming from someone with extensive TCMA training. There are a million and one bits of mental floatsam telling you this isn’t true such as ‘my tendons feel great with this or that posture or concentration exercise’, ‘my neigong is making me smoother in my kinetic chaining’ etc. However the fantasy life of the TMA nutcase must be put to rest for good. The martial artists of old worked 10 hours on a farm during the day, giving them muscles of wrought steel. Do you think that when they trained martial arts that they wanted to talk more about labour? No, even in the last 100s of years, a farmer who just did a 10 hour shift in a field wanted to talk about chi, ki and peaceful mental states and philosophical ideas. There is nothing wrong with metaphysics whatsoever, in fact it is part of our human make up. However, I’m just pointing out that spiritual discussion was traditionally given to people who were already doing functional strength training all day long, ankle or knee deep in mud. When you have done 10000 hoe thrusts into the soil in your day, you don’t want to think about it in the evening, so you call your spear training, spiralling of chi or ki. Once again, I’m not saying that ki or chi doesn’t exist, and that facia training doesn’t exist, it does exist and there’s nothing wrong with seeking it out if you can find the teacher who isn’t a nutcase or extremely arrogant in their complete lack of talent. The second irony here is that most (Western trained) TMA people don’t even know what chi is; which meridians cki/ki flows in and why, which ways you don’t want chi to flow, how chi flows in the immediate/proximal energetic field and how you don’t want it to flow etc). Much qi gong in popular usage is for health, and the health qi gong is usually transmitted reasonably well, I should add. Indeed it is necessary to know, at the least, the basics of the health side of qi gong simply because most, as in probably around 80 percent of, martial artists in the West who do internal arts have anything from mild to extremely severe chi/kundalini issues, hence why so many Western IMA practitioners are batshit crazy and mentally deranged. To return to the initial point, though, as we are no longer doing 10 hours physical labour in a field, we shouldn’t really be emulating those old martial artists who wanted to learn chi and spirituality only once they had their time off. Luckily we have these concepts of ‘gamification’ and ‘sportification’ which only in the mouths of wacky TMAsters sound like dirty words, when they are in fact the core way of retaining some of that functional ability of our field working ancestors.
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
I apologise to sound judgemental, I am actually a TCMA fan. Xing Yi is a nice style and this guy is very good. Just helping those who may be stuck and in some confusion.
@raksh9
@raksh9 8 ай бұрын
​@@tommckellen342After I do 10,000 hoe thrusts with my spear, I'd like to relax with some philosophy and qi flow, too. 😉
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
The funny thing is that the only place I have been where people universally recognise qi gong/kundalini syndromes and complications is China, where they also have a detailed pedagogy for correcting these issues and calming down the Yang fire which so many crackpot martial artists unknowingly invoke completely obliterating their inner circuitry. So many Western traditional artists are literally brain dead at a core neurological/meridian level. Indeed, there were many periods when Chinese were en mass concerned by people messing up their internal circuitry through trying to develop their minds or bodies in some way. This is exactly the type of concern that Westerners, and especially Western martial artists, should have, since, when you get to a decent enough level, you spot these complications in people; You realise how many people are going through very tumultuous forms of spiritual emergence, often precisely because of not knowledgable gurus, and they don’t even know it. It’s also why I always find it strange that Asian Martial artists transmit their internal practices (not in the health realm, though, where they are generally pretty good) in the way they do to Westerners (unless you lived in China). Even the Indian mystic Sadhuguru, whether you like him or not, has said that some energy practices, are like nuclear energy; it’s precisely because that that energy is so potent, that it takes so long to clear up when things go wrong. This is really a bug bear of mine since this seems to be an era of growing consciousness yet so many people messed up at the level of their circuitry (and this exacerbates things like woke culture, weird Abrahamic style cults etc everywhere). To reiterate, Western TMAsters are some of the most mentally deranged people out there, full stop, and a seriously high number are full blown wack jobs, owing to their lack of knowledge of qi gong which puts them at the mercy of no talent teachers. I am not even a particularly paranoid person in this realm, for example, telling people to avoid evil things with a crucifix in hand, but all of this is so patently clear if you are switched on, that it must be noted.
@learnchinesenow
@learnchinesenow 7 ай бұрын
the part around 11 mins where he picks up the stick and shows how the moves came from the spear was really good. I have always heard Xingyi comes from the spear but didn't know exactly how they are related.
@gaylonmcdowell3823
@gaylonmcdowell3823 8 ай бұрын
We need more Xingyi videos with this guy.
@mizolafoufounna
@mizolafoufounna 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see a REAL master, if there's any, vs Xu Xiaodong. Come on China, make it happen!!😆😆
@ozzyozzaway1312
@ozzyozzaway1312 8 ай бұрын
Vote for this!
@rahkim
@rahkim 8 ай бұрын
he's skilled bring him back! allow him to speak more Chinese too. I would love to learn the terms.
@Periodesystem
@Periodesystem 8 ай бұрын
What a talent!
@mrvgranfield
@mrvgranfield 8 ай бұрын
There were many kung fu men in the past with good quality fighting skills but these days the its hard to get them on camera as people don't understand them and the MMA ruler is used to measure everything which is not the only ruler to measure fighting skills with .
@7woundsfist
@7woundsfist 8 ай бұрын
What I was taught in xingyi is similar. The spine is like the bow string, and the hips are the trigger. I love how xingyi is simple yet infinitely complex. Hao da fa!
@M-dv1yj
@M-dv1yj 8 ай бұрын
He used words but has zero understanding of their meaning.
@neutrino78x
@neutrino78x 8 ай бұрын
@@M-dv1yjhow so? this guy has apparently won some tournaments
@hazor777
@hazor777 8 ай бұрын
My background is traditional Shotokan , and from what I was taught is very similar to, in terms of using the base as the generator of power etc.. this is a great style with a lot of great principles to gain from
@beantownbanshees
@beantownbanshees 8 ай бұрын
@@neutrino78x do you know which tournaments he’s fought in? I’d be really interested in seeing more application of XingYi
@glebshilov5752
@glebshilov5752 8 ай бұрын
🙏
@Sixth-Venom
@Sixth-Venom 8 ай бұрын
Taiji stands in the circle, Bagua walks on the circle, and Xingyi pierces through the circle!
@mattnobrega6621
@mattnobrega6621 8 ай бұрын
Nice 😎👍
@Macovic
@Macovic 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@thedappermagician6905
@thedappermagician6905 8 ай бұрын
Perfectly said. Another way to say it is Xing Yi the circle collapsed to a line.
@Sixth-Venom
@Sixth-Venom 8 ай бұрын
And if you combine them together u have a very power traditional MMA guy, with the simplest explanation taiji good for joint locks, grappling and anti grappling, bagua can get behind the opponent and evade, changes in elevations, you can walk in 8 steps or u can walk in 1 step to get behind. Xingyi is the shotgun. For example say some grapples your arms, anti grapple with taichi moves hold your position then shift out of the way with bagua parries and stepping and slam the elbows downward with a push into the collar bones of your opponent with xing yi all in one graceful movements Remember ladies and gents this is for street fighting not ring fighting. If we wanted to end a grapplers we would just downward elbow/fist or palm in the back of the neck/head as they shoot in for the back leg… Throw in some long first kicks and now you have longe range threat to keep other kicked at bay. Front kick/snap (best to use as a jam rather than damage), round house, side kick. (Feel free to throw advanced things combinations later) And most importantly breath control, u move as fast as you can inhale and exhale from the diaphragm. (Notice how when you sneeze theres a violent jolt) that snap is your ignition to your driving power. Watch Tyson, every change in Moment he snaps. Thats the burst from within (sneezing 😏) hahaha
@fenryl9822
@fenryl9822 8 ай бұрын
Haha, I guess they always find ways to make their own style sound superior. In Taiji they say: Bagua is circles, Xingyi is lines, Taiji is spirals.
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 8 ай бұрын
Xing Yi is my favorite of the internals. Thanks for giving this art some more exposure. Keep in mind that there are a few main lineages that do things differently from each other.
@davidyoung745
@davidyoung745 8 ай бұрын
I’ve always been interested in Xing Yi, but could never find it anywhere near me. I’d love to see more of this guy. His explanations are great! I always heard the circular motion in Tai Chi was on any plane, in Ba Gua it’s mostly on a horizontal plane (like a turn table, but you can have multiple levels spinning in opposite directions simultaneously), and Xing Yi it tends to be more a vertical plane (like a tire or a circular saw rotating forward and down or up and back). It was neat to see how he’d twist his body to load and release tension.
@abrahamj3096
@abrahamj3096 2 ай бұрын
if Xing Yi is not near you, Bring Xing Yi to you. good luck
@raccoonmyroom6861
@raccoonmyroom6861 8 ай бұрын
I used to train with some folks that practiced this and also sparred a bunch. Their gym had some members who were fairly successful amateur MMA and Kickboxing competitors in the Long Island and NYC area. Cool stuff!
@mengmao5033
@mengmao5033 8 ай бұрын
What was distinctive or noticeably different about their sparring style?
@G36-999
@G36-999 8 ай бұрын
second this question@@mengmao5033
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
Good video. When I was in China I would do, in a day, a couple of hours of TCMA or so then about the same amount of time with a Western teacher/MMA based style. This is because the mindsets have many overlaps, but people struggle with this idea. For example Pi and Beng in a style such as Xing Yi have many similarities to straight punches in boxing and you can train these 4 strikes simultaneously with the essentials mechanics or ‘energies’ in mind. Similarly liu he fa or ‘6 harmony method’, a concept found in Chinese styles, would just be considered ‘good shadow boxing form’ if focusing on power rather than strategy, in boxing, for example. It’s not wrong to admit where there are flaws in a style either, of course, it hardly needs mentioning. I would generally encourage people to be ‘full spectrum’ which means if you think qi gong is a load of nonsense, you should go and train some qi gong. If you think sparring and competing is nonsense you should do just that (focussing on what interests you most, of course, but working in order to ‘fill out the spectrum’). Xing Yi, and TMA people, tend to shy away from sparring for example, although you could make the case that a lot of Japanese styles, for example, didn’t shy away from injection of such modern developments attached to traditional forms with styles as kudo, kyukoshin, kendo etc. in other words, the realisation can exist that to add aspects of ‘sportification’ or ‘to gamication’ doesn’t really meant ‘to make worse’ (the opposite in fact since we are no longer farm hardened workers as we all once were and as martial artists once were). Pi chuan, for example, can be practiced almost as a heavy open hand type of jab with a slightly chopping quality, in its sparring incarnation, making it very slightly different from a boxing jab. ‘very slightly different’ might be an insult to some people, but that’s not really an insult when it comes to the realities of sparring. The evasion and footwork of MMA tends to be highly advanced, so it is necessary to learn, but you could develop and work on some of the Xing Yi style footwork concepts. Fighters who use ‘flat footed’ strikes, in combat sports, as Xing Yi does, are hardly an anomaly, for example. A sparring version of Xing Yi could have some Pancrase type ruleset features and a kudo style helmet (since many of its strikes are open hand and even come at strange angles). It could have Sanda style clinch rules but maybe you would have even less time (or perhaps, contrarily, more time) allowed in the clinch compared to Sanda, or a stronger emphasis on almost sumo style heavy/quick/push based takedowns, since Xing Yi likes forward motion. This might not even need to be hard sparring, depending on what your goals are, just ways to keep you from delusions door. Or course, ‘internal stuff’ found in styles such as Xing Yi, winds a lot of people up, and rightly so sometimes, as you meet internal peope, and I say this inironically, who have chi flow to all the wrong places. Either way, facia, tendon and electro-elastic tensegrity training is something which sports science increasingly accepts to be complimentary
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 8 ай бұрын
@mengmao5033 The short-range power is ridiculous. They also stay stuck to you in a way wing chun wishes it could. Every hit or connection shakes your center. I'd say that the weakness is getting to that range. I think it functions as well as it does because of how simple it is. 5 main movements. 12 sub movements that contain the essence of the original 5.
@offTheMedsYe
@offTheMedsYe 8 ай бұрын
@@tommckellen342 based.
@tmacc1529
@tmacc1529 8 ай бұрын
Favorite thus far. This man is a wealth of knowledge and what should be considered fundamentals, earned a new subscriber here, didn’t even realize I wasn’t subscribed but this made me make sure I was. Well done guys, keep up the good work, and please bring him back on. (Also can’t wait for the punching bag to have his own channel on what he’s learned through the years-kuddos to you as well sir, stay humble and know that you know).
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! Thank you so much!!
@kepheramanjet3244
@kepheramanjet3244 2 ай бұрын
Xingyi is a masterful art handed down to us from General Yue Fei, but the art is both Daoist and Buddhist in origin. Among the five internal styles it is the youngest and most direct and should be taught last, because of its destructive power coming from the ground into the hands. In theory the feet are always drilling “zuan”. Its mother is Bajiquan which is the earth phase of hot summer represented by the center or southwest. Xingyi’s phase is represented by Tiger which is the west phase. The hands expand out like the mouth of the tiger. The emotions and energy of a hidden tiger ready to pounce on its prey are channeled. What I would like to see more of is someone who understands the low and mid kicks in Xingyi. The kicks in Xingyi are just as important as the fists, and in fact they complement one another in its usefulness.
@robowen5572
@robowen5572 8 ай бұрын
Wow! Mr. Lee is high level, to say the least. He has put his time into his practice. Yes, more Xing Yi, please! I've studied Xing Yi under Deng Ming Dao and will be enjoying another seminar on it in Santa Cruz, CA in April. On the psycho-emotional and TCM level he discusses how Xing Yi is meant to offer balance. Thank you for sharing this excellent video!
@camiloiribarren1450
@camiloiribarren1450 8 ай бұрын
This is awesome! Glad to see one of the big Internal Martial arts of kung fu shown here. Hope to see you and Adam Chan collab one day and talk wing chun and Xing Yi And your retreat with Jeff Chan is awesome, wish I could join
@anthonycastro2146
@anthonycastro2146 8 ай бұрын
Bagua next? Praying Mantis? Tai Mantis? Would love to see these next!
@LunaticReason
@LunaticReason 8 ай бұрын
I do concur hopefully someone good
@lloydnicholls1439
@lloydnicholls1439 8 ай бұрын
Southern Praying Mantis is amazing!
@justaguyinyoutube5266
@justaguyinyoutube5266 7 ай бұрын
Praying Mantis and BajiChuan would be cool.
@wasumyon6147
@wasumyon6147 5 ай бұрын
Bagua and baji please!
@mydavegabicycle
@mydavegabicycle 3 ай бұрын
He should get Robert Jay Arnold aka Warfox on for more Bagua. He's very good!
@ovarigabor
@ovarigabor 7 ай бұрын
this master was so humbe and kind. you can clearly see he's not showing everything he's capable of. he really didn't want to show off, just chat a bit about his passion. classic: "you don't want to pick a fight with them" kind of guy :D
@remp1040
@remp1040 8 ай бұрын
God.... between your actual Wing Chun teacher, this guy and the Shuai Jiao teacher you did a video with, you'd have the perfect Chinese Martial Art. Maybe a little groundwork- but you also have your grappling teacher. Monsters all. This guy however, is head and shoulders over any Xing Yi teacher I've seen online. What a find!! Thank you so much for sharing this!!!
@M-dv1yj
@M-dv1yj 8 ай бұрын
This guy is utter trash tho.
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
Yes. He is good in the TMA sense. The mainland Xing Yi teachers have a good general standard and are quite down to earth, relatively speaking, even though they would benefit from sparring (many Xing Yi practitioners in China sideline in Sanda though, so they fulfil this area). TCMA and TMA people tend to make quite simple and obvious things sound unnecessarily complex (and there are some quite definite reasons for this which doesn’t really equate with the modern world where pure mimetics of our ancestors is only one mode of learning) which is why I recommend a style such as boxing which starts simple and moves towards complexity. Kung Fu tends to start complex but then you see that the best guys don’t overcomplicate things. No matter how you try to frame it, when a fight happens, if you don’t have the goods absolutely ready to do, in your body and not in la la land, it isn’t happening. Therefore, if you know two or more pedagogical styles (as most martial artists do tbh, I’m just hammering home the point) you can practice in a balanced way. The majority of Western Xing Yi practitioners are absolute fruitcakes, I should add. For example, I had one Xing Yi guy correcting my pronunciation of Chinese words, even though only one of us actually knows the pronunciation of Mandarin, and it wansn’t him.
@วันพรุ้งนี้ต้องก้าวต่อไป
@วันพรุ้งนี้ต้องก้าวต่อไป 8 ай бұрын
No UFC
@zoolkhan
@zoolkhan 2 ай бұрын
we had groundwork in our wing chun school in europe leung ting line Wing chun is not a collection of techniques or colorful names - it is a concept with a few principles. You can apply the same principles on the ground, that you apply standing up. - All designed to safe your own energy on his expense. We always assume, that on the street - we will be attacked by something heavier and stronger than us - so preserving our stamina and knock him out (cold if need to be) asap was beeing trained as soon a student reached the mental maturity necessary to be let loose with the arsenal into the urban wild.
@victorbologna6087
@victorbologna6087 7 ай бұрын
Great basic hand weapons from Chinese martial arts. His follow up is from practice
@screamtheguy6425
@screamtheguy6425 8 ай бұрын
Adam Chan on youtube also does xing yi. He talks how although both wing chun and xing yi are similar, the uniqueness of xing yi is the internal power they have. Just isolating the punching mechanics, you can see how both kung fu systems are linear, tight and small, but xing yi punches in a relaxed manner without any tension behind it
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 8 ай бұрын
Wing Chun is supposed to have all of the Internal Methods within it. The problem, is that many whom teach and practice WC, have learned a Simplified and Watered down version of it. One example of this, is found in the very first form of WC. Ever wonder why there is a Section that is repeated 3 times in a row? That section is actually called "Three Prayers to Buddha". Most practitioners speed through it, in less than 2 minutes. Instead, this section should take at least 16 minutes... as its meant to be done in Slow-Motion, similar to a Tai Chi form (which develops Internal Power)... Each time you Extend and Contract your arm in that section, it should take about 60 seconds total. There are 8 moves per side, which equals 16 minutes total: Tan / Wu Fook / Wu Fook / Wu Fook / Wu The rest of the form is to be done Fast / Explosively. However, after you have completed the entire form... you do not stop. You repeat the form 3 more times, with no rests between each Set. This will be slightly over one hour of time... and since the Majority of your time will be spend doing the 3 Prayers section... your Tendons will be greatly Stressed... which, over the course of +3 consecutive months (at least every other day, do the 1hr form work), will start to develop them to a whole other level. Ive had 3 Different Wing Chun teachers. Only One of them taught the Form, with the Slow Motion section... and he also made the Class do the form this way, for 1 hour straight. Of course, this was only done in class this way... a few times. Its up to the Student, to train like this, at home, to develop Internal Power to a high level of capability, on your own. There just isnt enough time, to have all of these skills be mastered in Classes (and our classes were 2 hrs long, with the first hour, tending to be a Hardcore CORE workout routine). One of the elder Wing Chun branch schools that I went to... also had some Qigong exercises within it. Its form was much longer and far more complex, as well. However, they separated the Qigong practices from the Forms... where as Yipman combined them.. as well as "Simplified" the Forms. He didnt have the needed Floorspace for all of the Footwork that was done in the original forms. He also knew that many people in that time, would not have spent the time and energy to learn and master such long forms. As such, he reduced the forms to their most Barest of Essence's. That said, I believe Yipman, was very Select about whom he taught what. There were a lot of Gang Members that attended a lot of Kung Fu schools.. and rather than give these Thugs too much power... a lot of teachers kept certain parts of their arts "Secret". As such, Yipman may have chosen only a few select Disciples, to give the Internal power methods to. Of course, it could also be, that many people of his time, simply didnt understand the Value of Internal Training... and simply chose not to pass it down to others. This dropping of the internal arts training, might have occurred 2 or 3 generations down the line. Especially from Western teachers, whom likely didnt even get a good explanation of them... due to the Language Translation Barrier. Anyway... I did the Internal Training... And I can verify that it works. It develops super strong tendons, changes in your brains abilities (superconscious awareness), and much more. It would take several pages of text to describe all of the changes. Its a slow process.. that takes many consecutive months of regular efforts, for you to notice the changes. BTW - You can see some Internal Power demonstrations, in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omjadaaXgtisps0
@storyiii5
@storyiii5 8 ай бұрын
Tbf, WC should also strike without tension.
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 8 ай бұрын
@@storyiii5 The highest level of Striking power, is Fajin (explosive power). Fajin does in fact, add a jolt of tension, at the very first moment of Solid Impact. This unifies the entire body mass, and sends a surge of vibrational energy into the target. Its clear that you dont have any experience with this kind of power. Wing Chun is supposed to always use Fajin expression in its strikes
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
The issue with Wing Chun, as with many traditional styles, is that it is a historical art. Of course, some classic things have bits and pieces of the perrenial and timeless, if you are willing to acknowledge where they also are frozen in time in the negative sense. This means, to expound, that WC was designed for narrow Southern Chinese alleyways and boats. This is also why it gets defeated in approx 0.3 of a second by much MMA, because any lateral punch goes straight around every Wing Chun block. Also, the trapping and sticking of Wing Chun might just about work, here and there, in a crowded South Chinese street or boat where you can't step even one inch backwards or to the side, and are therefore literally stuck to the person in front of you. However, a very large percentage of Wing Chun is found in Boxing in a way which works against resisting opponents. For example Bong Sau is called elbow blocking in boxing, nearly every 'sau' indeed is a frame, guard or block in boxing which actually works against resisting opponents. This doesn't mean sticking or pushing hands has no application and couldn't be improved for the modern era. Actually it could be made more effective, and has been by some practitioners. Even Bruce Lee was working on trapping and sticking which is effective on opponents who actually move around and, of course, some MMA practitioners (Fedor Emelianenko for example) know how to trap, throw loose overhand shots which 'stick' to his opponents who are actually moving and resisting etc etc. Although I sound very harsh to TMA practitioners, it's not really the case. It's just that Matt Thornton was right about many things about the classic TMA personality (those who don't learn outside their tiny paradigm) which is unbelievably arrogance combined with very low actual skill. Think of it this way; when I started TMA, before MMA was really popular, the TMA people used to say sportspeople are arrogant. But I never found this to be true. The worst you might get in sports is a sporting ego, if someone is good at what they do. But a sporting ego is usually something which wears off after a pint. But what about the TMA ego? I would say hands down that, even now, in a TMA dojo, you will find some of the most messed up, confused and psychotically demented people on planet earth, let alone in the realm of physical activity. In fact, many TMA people who I meet are literally conduits for the Satanic realm. Laugh at that if you will (I don't mind because it was meant to be funny) but it doesnt mean that it's wrong. The reason I am hard on TMA people is because they can do and be better and I am one of many people who will make suggestions to move towards them to the next level. A final note, if Wing Chun wants to make sparring style which makes it more effective, it would probably best to accept Wing Chun's historical root and acknowledge it as a very linear style for narrow, crowded spaces. Wing Chun sparring could focus on the the front and back sagittal plane, almost like fencing or Kendo does. This may sound harsh as hell, but really you don't have time to think what is harsh when someone is smashing your face. If 'The Chun' is poorly equipped for anything vaguely coronal/transverse/lateral from a half way decent opponent, that's just the way it is.
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 8 ай бұрын
@@tommckellen342 is that it is a historical art. Of course, some classic things have bits and pieces of the perrenial and timeless, if you are willing to acknowledge where they also are frozen in time in the negative sense. -Nothing in the Combat arts today, has Improved over the Past. In fact, the arts started to Degrade, the very moment that the industrial revolution period started. Each and every art, started to remove things like Weapons training. Aikido was created, by a master that became a pacifist, and he removed all of the Striking in the previous form of it. Karate changed directly in Japan.. from its former hardcore training methods.. to a more Lazy and "easy" level of work... to cater to the modern citizens. In fact, Karate got even worse, when it further degraded in the USA... as did most of these arts... as Westerners were even Lazier than Asians... so they had to make things both easier, and safer. This is what lead to things like the creation of Point-Sparring. -Modern MMA practitioners, are merely rediscovering some of what was LOST (and taken from them) due to these modernizations, and corruptions. MMA has not learned anything NEW. Furthermore, when the UFC craze hit, MMA schools that formed... often stole techniques from various TMA's, BUT... the ignorantly refused to take along the special "ATTRIBUTE TRAINING" that went along with these techs. Attribute training, is what would make these techs: Much Faster, More Accurate, and FAR more powerful. As such, you have so called Top level fighters, that are SLOW, Clumsy, and have Far less Output Potentials. -Ive stated this before: There are things that never Change. Math, Physics, Geometry... 1+1 is still 2. 10,000 yrs from today, all of that stuff will be the same. Combat functions on Physics, Geometry, Leverage..etc. The same Parry that was developed & tested 2000 yrs ago, still functions exactly the same today. There is no need to change it... And especially not in a time, where all arts have severely Degraded. Fighters used to be FAR Stronger, and Far more Effective, in the distant past. These guys had a LOT more time to devote to training... and getting into fights / combat was something that occurred far more Frequently, as there was little in the way of "Cops" to save you. This means, to expound, that WC was designed for narrow Southern Chinese alleyways and boats. -Wing Chun was created from many pieces, of the highest combat technology, of that era of China. Its rebellion fighters, would certainly encounter areas of open space. To think up such foolishness, is laughably bad. Furthermore, thinking that Physics is somehow different in the Open Spaces, is even more laughable. This is also why it gets defeated in approx 0.3 of a second by much MMA, because any lateral punch goes straight around every Wing Chun block. -Ive trained in: Wing Chun, Muay Thai & TKD Kicks, Western Boxing Strikes, Shaolin Style Iron Body Conditioning (Far superior to simple shin conditioning of Muay Thai), some Tai Chi, and a lot more. I used to spar full contact against many different arts, including many MMA fighters. The last MMA fighter to test me... was unable to get a single Kick or handstrike on me. I easily deflected his every attempt.. and then unleashed a flurry of strikes and kicks on him, instead. I have 30 years of Experience in the arts. By my 3rd year in, I was almost untouchable to the Local schools various blackbelt level fighter, including the Teachers. By my 5th year, I reached full Masterclass level... with Lethal level power, within Inch ranges. -I never had any issue, dealing with MMA, and Muay Thai fighters. In fact, I even had the MMA fighter that I defeated, come over to learn and train with me. Ill never forget the expression on his face, when he hit my hanging BB Bag (filled with about 15 to 20lbs worth of steel BBs). His fist turned bright red, stinging in pain, and he looked at me, as if to say "This dude is FN Crazy!". He struggled to keep up with my hardcore CORE workout routine, despite being 5 yrs younger... and not wearing the 15 lb ankle weights that I wore.. to make it more challenging for me. He also could barely do any barefist pushups on the carpeted floor... because of the pain of never having conditioned his fists.. and always using Gloves when he fought + trained.
@Cmaxb9
@Cmaxb9 Ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating, the master moves with such fluidity and control. Thank you for this as always, great content
@goadreamer
@goadreamer 8 ай бұрын
This is a treasure form to discover! I heartily thank you all for creating this amazing episode.
@lifeishealinghealthwellnes1979
@lifeishealinghealthwellnes1979 8 ай бұрын
👍👍Real control and power. Sifu Chan movements and explanations are as close as you can get to the original true principles of Xingyi. Well done. Look forward to future videos like this.
@vamingxiong4376
@vamingxiong4376 8 ай бұрын
I'm not a big kungfu guy but this dude is impressive. Would love to see more of him and his teaching.
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the best systems in Chinese martial arts. It's hard to find a qualified instructor.
@Rob-z7k
@Rob-z7k 8 ай бұрын
He can def kick ass
@TheJofrica
@TheJofrica 8 ай бұрын
I'm not a big kung fu guy either, maybe like 5'6" or 5'7" depending on the shoes I'm wearing
@darellroasa3235
@darellroasa3235 8 ай бұрын
This guy will get beat up in a real fight😂
@vamingxiong4376
@vamingxiong4376 8 ай бұрын
@@darellroasa3235 There's a time and place for skills like this. It's not for sport fighting. For that go learn mma or whatever sports you're into.
@leeburkai9830
@leeburkai9830 8 ай бұрын
With Tai Ji, you play with people. With Ba Gua, you frustrate people. With Hsing Yi, you kill people. (the soldier's art)
@remp1040
@remp1040 8 ай бұрын
is there a channel or website for Dimitri Nogay? if not, PLEASE share more videos! I've been training Zhan Zhuang for a while and love this!
@azlaroc12
@azlaroc12 8 ай бұрын
Not sure what Xing Yi lineage this is but he’s got the oomph. Most examples I’ve seen are more upright and short but there’s lots of ways to express the 5 principles. Thanks for sharing.
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 8 ай бұрын
You can hear root and I find it hilarious. There might be subtle differences in form but you can definitely tell when someone understands internal power.
@Eri587
@Eri587 8 ай бұрын
If you decide to continue with the kung fu styles consider these as suggestions, hung gar, bagua, tong bei quan, baji quan and choy li fut, i personally think these are the most interesting kung fu styles out there.
@Sixth-Venom
@Sixth-Venom 8 ай бұрын
while using taiji as the core engine!
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita 8 ай бұрын
I would second this.
@sushijoe2133
@sushijoe2133 8 ай бұрын
Also check out Pak Mei Kung Fu
@FirstnameLastname-bn4gv
@FirstnameLastname-bn4gv 6 күн бұрын
Southern Mantis, Fuijan White Crane
@leonlim007
@leonlim007 8 ай бұрын
Blown away when his punch at 05:42 created that martial arts movie type of sound~
@deyraga
@deyraga 8 ай бұрын
yeah pretty cool haha. I think it's the clothes flapping when your punch is fast/snappy enough, some karatekas have it too
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 8 ай бұрын
@@deyraga Yes, its the clothing flapping from the wind resistance. However, it requires a serious amount of acceleration and max speed potentials, to be of any notable loudness. Typically, the louder it is, the more impressive the output potentials. Also, if you are a high level master, you might still produce a very loud sound, from only a few inches worth of travel.
@flyfin108
@flyfin108 8 ай бұрын
blown away from beginner movements, its rare to see what he said for so clearly on anyone
@stefanschleps8758
@stefanschleps8758 8 ай бұрын
@@johndough8115 He was wearing a microphone.
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 8 ай бұрын
@@stefanschleps8758 I make the same loud sounds from my movements, while wearing a uniform or jacket. The others are also wearing mics, yet you never hear the same type of sounds. You can find countless similar examples. But as Ive said, I speak from actual experience. I have 30 years, spanning many different arts.
@nudgeA7
@nudgeA7 8 ай бұрын
impressive:), and i do see lot of similarity to wingchun too, amazing how you explained how this originated back to use of weapon:), and for the host of this show, a sweet compliment considering the viewers POV and switching sides of the demo twice;), interesting stuff, good job, ty upload^^
@goukko
@goukko 8 ай бұрын
Yes. Finally. I have waited this.
@Shindai
@Shindai 8 ай бұрын
Good timing for this, I was thinking this morning about how the Jet Li movie The One was my first time learning about xingyi and bagua. I've only ever seen xingyi forms, but never much explanation,s o this was really cool. Dude's very impressive with his speed and precision :) I wish I lived near a class of this, I reckon I could really get into it
@EliteBlackSash
@EliteBlackSash 8 ай бұрын
He’s very good, great body mechanics and speed with power. But, the applications…. Same fast combinations like silat / arnis demos. We HAVE to stop looking at Kungfu as, “Chinese Boxing.” It’s not boxing. It’s combatives. Then the real possibilities open up. Like the forms he showing, then he’s saying 100 yrs ago it was good but not now. No. Its STILL good. It’s just Not meant to be a strike combination. The goal is not to bludgeon. It’s to take the person down. That changes the interpretation of the movements significantly. For the classical technique to work, the classic context must be understood. Xing Yi Quan and Yi Quan are some of the first TCMA to participate in the Central Guo Shu mixed martial arts tournaments in the 1920s. 3 of the top 5 contestants. Though Shuaijiao placed #1 and #3. Very effective. In Both classical and the modern times, Xing Yi should not be looked at as “boxing” (not even dirty boxing) but rather as combatives. The fact the movements are from the spear and saber proves as much. It is the art of a spearman and later adapted to caravan and personal protection security. They were not raining punching combinations down on people. They were trying to take you down, and then stab/disable the threat. It’s the exact same for BaGua - security style, Yin Fu was the bodyguard of the last Empress of China. Cheng Tinghua invented the circle walking from walking the outside of his Shuaijiao wrestling pit. And also Tai Chi - the family style of Chen Wangting, a Ming dynasty garrison commander of Wen county. He wasn’t parrying punches and doing cannon fist punches on people, on the battlefield or in the village. The “internal styles”.. xing yi, tai chi and bagua are all Armed Combat and Wrestling with some Strikes. Rather than Boxing with some takedowns and a couple weapon forms just for show or for basic mechanics.
@Martialartman5038
@Martialartman5038 8 ай бұрын
I agree with this. There’s a person called “Pang Chao” which can be found on yt which explains exactly how it is used in disrupting opponents’s centre of gravity. Although most of his videos are in Chinese, he has videos that are in English
@carsonwood3605
@carsonwood3605 8 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that all Martial (military arts) were derived from the first military battleground combatives known to man, Kalaripayattu. What was the first weapon known to mankind used as an equalizer? Stick ... club. Bodhidharma was a Prince. He was the third son to King Sughanda of India. Being royalty, he learned the battleground combatives of his kingdom from an early age. One day he decided to give up his rights of royalty and put on the robes of a priest and left his kingdom on a quest for truth. The forefather of Shaolin Temple Kung Fu, originally called the Tao. Bodhidharma was moved by the gesture committed by the monk Lo Han, who cut off his right arm to convince Bodhidharma (also called Ta Mo) to accept him as a pupil. Lo Han took what he learned back to the temple and shared the knowledge. The 18 hands of Lo Han, the one armed Master. The reason why monks pray with one hand (left). The Tao was broken down into six forms, three hard, three soft to hide the original art form. After the Temple was burnt down and rebuilt, another temple was built in the North of China and the system was divided further by keeping the hard forms in one temple and sending the soft forms to the other temple to further hide the knowledge of the original combat art. Traveling Monks shared knowledge outside of the Temple, and adepts spread their interpretations throughout the world. It's all documented history.
@carsonwood3605
@carsonwood3605 8 ай бұрын
@@didjitalone9544 so you are saying that the encyclopedias and history books are incorrect and fictional. History itself proves that the first military art is Kalaripayattu. Simply look at Kalaripayattu, then look at the hand to hand, weapon to weapon combatives of every country worldwide. Plain to see that they all are basically the same. I have studied and practiced martial arts since 1966 and hold the rank of Godan. Am a multiple Dan holder in Okinawan, Chinese, Korean and Filipino Martial Arts. There are 21 Points of Hand-to-Hand Combat. 7 sets of 3's. I also instruct military Hand-to-Hand, Hand-to-Weapon, and Weapon-to-Weapon Combatives. Have a nice day, sir.
@mengmao5033
@mengmao5033 8 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@carsonwood3605I’m certain martial arts existed before Kakaripattayu, unconnected and not preserved. Why would fighting techniques gave a single origin when all our primate ancestors and relatives also fight
@carsonwood3605
@carsonwood3605 8 ай бұрын
@@mengmao5033 yes, everyone fights and there have been conflicts since the beginning of time, which recorded history and religious texts prove began in the region of India. Cave drawings in the region depicts angels descended from the heavens and taught man to defend themselves with the stick or club. This was developed into the first documented battleground combat system known to mankind. Historians and researchers who wrote the history books, dictionaries and encyclopedias can't all be wrong. The military combat system of every country worldwide are basically the same, same movements and techniques. How many ways are there to create the same outcome of taking an opponent down and out? They are all basically the same worldwide. And once you take someone down and incapacitate them on the battlefield, you don't have to worry about killing him because all of your comrades in the battle behind you will complete the termination as everyone advances forward. Entry. Forward Pressure. Termination. The three main elements of combat.
@emilianosintarias7337
@emilianosintarias7337 8 ай бұрын
Xing Yi is the style that won the first MMA Lei Tai competitions 100 years ago in Beijing. It also has nice wrestling throws
@pablosanhueza5290
@pablosanhueza5290 8 ай бұрын
This is incredible. I realized I do some of these techniques just instinctively. Not knowing a martial art applied what I do in training and sparring. I got the idea of using joints for your advantage when turning a steering wheel even with one hand or both and then applying hip movement to it. I like this style as it has multiple things that I already knew or used before even watching this. Thanks Dimitri Nogay and Kevin! Much respect and love! take care guys!
@josephbrewster1169
@josephbrewster1169 8 ай бұрын
Going low for those ancient exercises was about conditioning and Masters would only do it against weapons, when a larger motion was necessary to dodge. You can see a modern facsimile of this, watching KZbin videos of exceptionally defensive boxers that dip so low that their faces almost touch the floor. They move so fast and are so bendy that they can do such extreme maneuvers, mid fight, without having been trained specifically to do it, all on instinct. This is the reason for such extreme Katas, so that you are capable of being the Water in the Bowl, Shaped Victory. Whatever form you must take to win, you are capable.
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 8 ай бұрын
10:10 I like how he explained back in the past the technique was done straight ahead to counter weapons, and was adjusted to an angle about 100 years to compensate for open hand attacks.
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 8 ай бұрын
The slight bend in the back, is just another Spring that you can use to absorb and or Expel energy with. While in Weapons combat... being as far away from the blades, was far more important than the benefits of using this technique. That said, there is nothing stopping you from using it.. when you use a weapon. My guess, is that they figured out a lot of the Internal stuff, to a FAR Deeper degree... when they started using hand to hand methods.
@turbopowergt
@turbopowergt 8 ай бұрын
Most martial arts were weapon focused until about 100 years ago.
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 8 ай бұрын
@@turbopowergt This is a very Short Sighted perspective. ALL combat arts used to have both weapons and barehand skillsets, for good reasons: What happens to you, if your weapon was far away from you, when people attack you? What happens to you, if someone managed to disarm you... and your weapon was again... too far away from you to be picked up? Also Realize that while many people may have carried their weapons on their sides, whenever they were out... There were many times and or places, where weapons were not available / allowed. Also, depending on the area... not everyone may have had the money for a good weapon. And, in their Daily lives, the most troubles that they may have encountered, were barefist brawls.. or at most, some knives / staffs. Anyway.. the point being, that Hand to Hand methods, were typically part of Chinese arts training... even when they had a variety of Weapons available. They may have spent more time training weapons interactions, vs hand to hand skills... but they surely would have had training for both. Heck, even when people use Weapons, there are still times when you might throw a kick, use a hand strike.. and or use other hand techniques, throws, locks...and more. It was more than simply slashing and stabbing.
@turbopowergt
@turbopowergt 8 ай бұрын
@@johndough8115 I agree with you. But prior to the really late 1800s most of the martial arts were primarily weapons systems regardless of type of weapons. If it was more civilian in nature you had utility weapons, much like Central America and the Caribbean still have active Machete styles and fights. Even boxing came from fencing, quarter staff, and wrestling. And wrestling is fighting, because humans will always come to grappling range if trading blows. Now look at Karate, Wing Chun, and Kung Fu open hand forms, and imagine them with weapons. Wing Chun immovable elbow makes a lot more sense with swords in your hands. A bladed stance makes a lot more sense with a sword or knife or against a sword or knife.
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 8 ай бұрын
@@turbopowergt Sorry, but I dont really agree with you. I believe hand to hand methods, have existed, and developed, Well before the 1800's. These systems are WAY too advanced, to have only been created from the 1800s and forwards. Trying to put Boxing into any framework within this argument, makes virtually no sense, since Boxing itself is a Sport. Its not realistic to barefirst + barefoot combat. Your attempt to try to fit Wing Chun's methods into a specific box, is also very limited, and its just too basic. You do know that WC has a bladed stance too, right? And, it also has a Long Pole, as one of its weapons. The way WC operates, is based on Logical Combat principles. Each Limb, is sort of like its own Fencing Foil. Remember what I said: What happens if your weapon goes flying out of your hands? (Disarm) Or, What happens, if you are too far away from your Weapon? These are very serious, and very REAL combat scenario's. Its one of the main reasons, why Hand To Hand combat methods, would still have been Developed, Trained, and Used. That, and because even with Weapons, you still can Kick, and use handstrikes. Furthermore... the OP would also have to be trained in what to do, against such attacks. Also, think about what happens when two weapons are tied up within close ranges. The superior fighter, would know how to use grappling methods, to prevent escape, as well as to potentially Disarm the OP. That, and or use a Short Range lethal handstrike strike. Or even the use of short kicks to the skins, shin locks, foot sweeps, and more. The Chinese arts are over 2000 yrs old. You can find many arts like Tai Chi, that has Weapons, striking, and Grappling. You see old Shaolin, and Mantis, having the same developments... along with countless other Chinese combat arts. There is no way that all of these arts suddenly shifted to hand to hand, within the mere 1800s, and developed so quickly and deeply, within that short of a timeframe. These developments were going on LONG before that. While hand to hand, and weapons methods share a lot of the same principles.. there are of course, a lot of special differences. Especially in regards to how you have to train the body, to get the correct strength, endurance, speed, and accuracy. And when you get into Chi-Na (Standing Locks + Grappling), things get even more complex.. differing greatly from weapons methods. And as Ive said, a complete artists, blends all of these things together, seamlessly. This is why these arts took like 15 years to learn + fully master. They tended to start training, as young as 3 yrs old. By the time they were in their teens, these kids were at a level of strength and technical ability, that very few people in this modern world, could ever compare.. nor compete against. Of course, it was their Daily way of Life... and they had very little in the way of Distractions.
@flykyrt81
@flykyrt81 8 ай бұрын
Yes, please do a deep dive into XingYi! I also hope you'll do an episode on Bagua as well!
@LagerPetrol409
@LagerPetrol409 8 ай бұрын
Many thanks an excellent episode , great respect to sifu Dimitri Nogay a good practitioner of his art , I learned alot. Very deep art! Never too old to learn 😊
@nickyeng7444
@nickyeng7444 8 ай бұрын
I love the way you guys approached this. Such complex material, but you explained it so well. Guest is off the charts! Both of you highlighted the main points in a way that made everything approachable and accessible. Very interesting and a pleasure to watch! Keep up the fantastic work Kevin! You are brilliant!
@ozzyozzaway1312
@ozzyozzaway1312 8 ай бұрын
contemporary todays way to explain "the secrets", actually the "old style" masters doesnt give and open the knowledge until certain degrees of trusts and loyality.
@ВіталійДемкович
@ВіталійДемкович 7 ай бұрын
It is just superb! Thank you for sharing, Kevin! 🙏🏼👍Great respect to the master.
@russelllustig9132
@russelllustig9132 8 ай бұрын
Great content Kevin. Thank you for the discussion on a traditional kung fu style. Quite fascinating and impressive
@BMO_Creative
@BMO_Creative 8 ай бұрын
wow man! Kev and Jeff teaching skillz PLUS in Greece! Amazing!
@aok5298
@aok5298 5 ай бұрын
Great video, I boxed for many years and can see common techniques that a skilled boxer will apply to develop KO or rib snapping power by focusing power and technique different for each punch. It’s been difficult to explain to others but seeing this applied is awesome. Same applies for many sports where power can be generated through focus on the milliseconds when a racket hits a tennis ball or golf club hits a golf ball ..
@turbopowergt
@turbopowergt 8 ай бұрын
Wing Chun also makes a lot more sense if you start with Butterfly Swords.
@RICHARDCLARKNINJA
@RICHARDCLARKNINJA 8 ай бұрын
This video is the story of my life in martial arts training as a 41 year old kung fu practitioner - great video
@jamesatkinson5805
@jamesatkinson5805 8 ай бұрын
I loved this, it's just too bad that there aren't more instructors for Xing Yi out there
@EvilWeiRamirez
@EvilWeiRamirez 8 ай бұрын
Its so great seeing some Xing-yi on this channel, and on KZbin in general. There aren't many videos that even mention it at all, except a few wushu videos, which don't really display what it is trying to show. I miss studying this art. It's great that these guys are getting exposure. It's such a simple set of basic forms. I wish there were more videos about the 12 animals.
@championboy4782
@championboy4782 8 ай бұрын
An intro to the basic santishi and five elements stance would be appreciated, especially for people who've never seen xingyi before. As the basic, it should get some representation.
@naturalman4185
@naturalman4185 8 ай бұрын
Completely agree!!
@considerthis768
@considerthis768 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. More Internal style content, please. I really want to learn this now.
@AztecUnshaven
@AztecUnshaven 8 ай бұрын
This gentleman has legit Gongfu skill. Fantastic demonstration.
@Macovic
@Macovic 8 ай бұрын
Shastar vidya next, This was awesome. Thank you for making the effort on this. An so many things to recognize between old styles, like weapon inheritance, elbows, dragon body/relaxation, simultanous defence and counter
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 8 ай бұрын
The guy who teaches it lives in blighty or England
@tommckellen342
@tommckellen342 8 ай бұрын
All of these Internal styles are full of people who talk about chi but don’t know what chi is at the health level (I am emphasising the health level, rather than the martial level here, which you need to know for reasons which I will outline below) therefore they have severe mental/chi/kunadalini issues. The Indian arts are some of the worst for this, which is a shame because Indian arts fill quite an interesting niche in martial arts otherwise.
@nobodyexceptme7794
@nobodyexceptme7794 8 ай бұрын
Love these vids every sat morning they like cartoons for adult men
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 8 ай бұрын
Well said! 👍💪👊
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 8 ай бұрын
How dare you call me out like that
@scottc3165
@scottc3165 8 ай бұрын
Excellent demonstration. I enjoy your energy of open discovery.
@D--man
@D--man 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, interesting to learn more about Hsinyi
@burningknuckle26
@burningknuckle26 7 ай бұрын
ok this is dope. XingYi is savage af
@AK41
@AK41 8 ай бұрын
Is this guy Russian or Kazak? Or Chinese? His skills are undoubtedly impressive
@fisherchi
@fisherchi 8 ай бұрын
Wow, Dimitri is super good. More in depth videos on Xing Yi would be great!
@angelloakira
@angelloakira 8 ай бұрын
Spar him. We need to see a spar sesh
@bengt1881
@bengt1881 8 ай бұрын
God this video is making me want to practice xingyi!! Wish there was a way to learn it and practice it for me. There are no practicioners where I live
@lgv3051
@lgv3051 8 ай бұрын
Where did this guy's Xing Yi come from? It is very far from normal common xing yi. I'm guessing it's from some of the Taiwan lineages. Would love to know. Thank you
@owengan9821
@owengan9821 7 ай бұрын
Just a few moves you can already capture the level of training and skill of this master. By far, he is the most skilled KungFu martial artist, I have seen on KZbin!!!
@themagescorner
@themagescorner 8 ай бұрын
3:39 Avatar mode! 😂
@MegaWatt_nick
@MegaWatt_nick 8 ай бұрын
Он основы бокса сейчас преподал. Очень похоже всё. В его движениях чувствуется мощь, а скорость просто блеск, улыбку мне на лицо натягивает. Если спарринговать с разными бойцами, для отработки применения в движении и в обоюдных атаках, это реально будет работать. Как у Лиото Мачида и у Стивена Томпсона. Они адаптировали традиционные единоборства к MMA, и это отлично заработало.
@carsonwood3605
@carsonwood3605 8 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that the empty hand techniques are derived from the original weapons used. Whatever you can do with a weapon, you can do with your empty (Kara) hand (te). A stick is a knife, knife is a sword, sword is a stick... ie. A stick is a knife, is a sword, is a stick. They are all used basically the same way, same motions. Kung Fu literally means ability/skill. There are but so many ways the human body and limbs can move.
@carsonwood3605
@carsonwood3605 8 ай бұрын
@@glasp-q8n if you know more or skilled more than a Master Instructor, then please come and prove your point of view to me physically. I believe that I can change your mind while increasing your knowledge, self-esteem and skill level 100% in less than ten hours. Good day and best wishes!
@carsonwood3605
@carsonwood3605 8 ай бұрын
​@@glasp-q8ncome to my home and demonstrate your point to me. I will teach you why you should never concentrate on the weapon or the action, but to have a focused center and to always work with the flat sides of a bladed weapon and the sides of any weapon held in the hand. Free of charge. One must see the attack before the mind can process the threat and the body can react to it naturally. In a quick and sudden attack, only a natural reaction will prevail. At that precise moment in time, it wouldn't matter what you have learned in any school or gym because only a natural response will prevail and save your life. You should never match size, skill and strength with anyone...ie.. boxing match against a boxer, wrestling match against a wrestler, grappling match against a grappler or a kicking match against a kicker because the more advanced boxer, wrestler, grappler or kicker will 99% of the time win the altercation. One must learn to absorb, accept, deflect or redirect the attack naturally with your natural body movements. Remember that the body itself is the center and that there is also the center line of the body. There are two fears in the human body... the fear of being struck in the face, and the fear of being hit or stabbed in the stomach. When you learn what your natural movements are in different angles of attack they become extremely beneficial to you. And when you combine the two fears of the body itself together, the body will defend itself naturally. In this way, you learn how to use not only your strengths to your advantage, but how to use your weaknesses as well - naturally. I began training in 1966, attained Dan grade in 1969, attained Godan in 1989 in Okinawan Karate. Since, I have attained Dan grades in TKD, Hapkido, Yudo, Tai Chi Chuan, Wing Chun, Jeet Kune Do Instructor certification, Military Hand-to-Hand Instructor certification. National Martial Artist Hand Registration number 91-11 .
@jackdaniel7465
@jackdaniel7465 8 ай бұрын
This guy Definitely has power in his movements, very impressive!!!
@mellygokrazy6542
@mellygokrazy6542 8 ай бұрын
Can you bring back the female personal trainer that was talking about the importance of your body during wing chun
@fauxz3782
@fauxz3782 8 ай бұрын
What exactly about the body?
@angelloakira
@angelloakira 8 ай бұрын
Trust me. Lol... Just bring her back 😎🍑🤌​@@fauxz3782
@martinmadsen7955
@martinmadsen7955 8 ай бұрын
@@fauxz3782You need one in order to do wing chun.
@mellygokrazy6542
@mellygokrazy6542 7 ай бұрын
@@fauxz3782check out the video on his page. Probably have to type in “Kevin Lee personal trainer” and scroll until you find a woman
@tts626
@tts626 8 ай бұрын
The most "legit" Xing Yi I've seen a very long time. Hope you do a few more episodes. Dimitri should really have his own channel. Thank you =)
@GordiansKnotHere
@GordiansKnotHere Ай бұрын
Beautiful technique! Thanks!
@lorenzozapaton4031
@lorenzozapaton4031 8 ай бұрын
I hope you cover more about "internal styles" and their practical applications. I never thought that most movement in traditional kung fu are more about conditioning and training than application. It's a good theory.
@gnos1s171
@gnos1s171 8 ай бұрын
From what I know about learning which animal to use in a given circumstance usually when it comes to xing yi u will learn all of the animals, but based on your physical build and your preferences u will specialize in only a few specific animal styles/forms but learning how wood, earth, metal, water, and fire work while using them it’s kinda like rock paper scissors with each element being able to counter another element but u will be using a certain animal that suits your preferences while doing so
@jeffreyc5963
@jeffreyc5963 8 ай бұрын
Fascinating! I'd love to see more of this internal power demonstration and application. Thanks.
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 8 ай бұрын
There is a chinese mma channel that does a wonderful explanation without the chi talk.
@Altimit1417
@Altimit1417 8 ай бұрын
Yes! More Xing Yi content!!!
@KevinLeeVlog
@KevinLeeVlog 8 ай бұрын
Coming up this Saturday!!
@jm7578
@jm7578 8 ай бұрын
I studied Xing Yi Quan in my early teens, it is a deadly system. I saw Sifu Kenny Gong in action, it was mesmerizing.
@globyois
@globyois 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video! My Style is Kung Fu San Soo, a Northern Shaolin Style and many of the elements the instructor was demonstrating were much like what I practiced. Great presentation, thanks.
@1individeo
@1individeo 8 ай бұрын
Listening to this guy is like watching a martial arts movie, a good one.
@davidschultz5874
@davidschultz5874 8 ай бұрын
So happy to see you feature XingYi,. I hardly see it showcased. I love this style.
@quickstep2408
@quickstep2408 8 ай бұрын
i didnt quite notice his unique bodytype right away. but his legs are actually shorter in proportion to his torso making his centre of mass closer to the ground for better balance and explosive short range movement activation, and his torso is big and powerful. this allows for quick explosive short range footwork combined with strong powerful striking and arm and hand movements refined from years of internal biomechanical study for precise movement and reaction time - the perfect bodytype for this style! also… his hands are massive!
@michaelellis141
@michaelellis141 8 ай бұрын
Yes. Yes. And Yes.
@beenright5115
@beenright5115 8 ай бұрын
Kevin!! This video is so good!! We need more!
@JaredGenesis444
@JaredGenesis444 Ай бұрын
moving your body the way he does lets the chi flow freely thats why alot of ancient styles incorporate that. Up to you whether you want to believe it or not but it makes sense on paper. best kung fu is loose. best boxing is tight.
@TheFosterJourney
@TheFosterJourney 5 күн бұрын
When the master says, "hit harder, hit faster, then I can show you" you know hes good 👍
@yori8954
@yori8954 8 ай бұрын
Il explique de nombreux concepts des arts martiaux, donne du sens à ceux ci. Merci pour la vidéo c’est fantastique et ça fait du bien d’avoir un maître honnête, généreux et pédagogue
@cypressmuzik
@cypressmuzik 8 ай бұрын
This man is the real deal! Superb Kung Fu skills...
@Delta66-jz1vl
@Delta66-jz1vl 8 ай бұрын
The Master is making an impressive demonstration in casual outfit.
@pauremi396
@pauremi396 8 ай бұрын
Really cool seeing the depth of movement energy behind the strikes with animals/ elements awsome!
@RetireearlyNYC
@RetireearlyNYC 4 ай бұрын
Wow! Amazing speed, power and control! And I love the historical aspects of it, weapons vs empty hand. Despite having lived through the start of the UFCs and poopooing on traditional MA, I must say that masters like him make me realize that there is a great deal we can learn from the traditional arts
@gyorgysoos3310
@gyorgysoos3310 2 ай бұрын
'Kung Fu fighting just the fastest lighting' - Great lesson - great demo.
@piotrfechner9770
@piotrfechner9770 8 ай бұрын
Amazing, XingYi looks extra fun! more vids with master Nogay!!!!
@citoyenjoseph
@citoyenjoseph 5 ай бұрын
I really like how he moves when he strikes...and the training with the pole. This is such a cool martial art!
@manuelelozzi9738
@manuelelozzi9738 8 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to compare Xing yi chuan with Chen style Taiji chuan and Baguazhang to explain the connections and differences between their principles,methods,teaching progression and forms (chen taiji silk reeling or "chan su jin" and "er lu" "pao chui" form,fa jing etc ...) and see how they express themselves in martial application.
@michaelellis141
@michaelellis141 8 ай бұрын
Let me tell you I've been training in Combat Martial Arts for over 39 years. The speed, flexibility and power that you can see and hear at 5:42 to 6:02 means if an attcaker gets hit with those shots it's lights out. This instructor is no joke. Please share more vidoes my friend. Choy Lee Fut in Combat Tai Chi function off of these same principles. That Hammer fist is a knockout, killer strike.
@From_Thailand
@From_Thailand 8 ай бұрын
Great demo. Xingyi is the first internal style I studied. It's a love at first sight
@hazor777
@hazor777 8 ай бұрын
Just watching his distance closing, techniques etc.. there’s definitely some content that’s beneficial to learn from , here.
@James-wd9ib
@James-wd9ib 6 ай бұрын
1:51 The "cross" concept is interesting. A lot of our natural motions are mirrored from the waist up and down e.g. to maintain balance, the arms are always doing the opposite of what the legs do... But also, mirrored left and right from our midpoint. The ancients didn't have the words "kinesiology" or "biomechanics" or "kinesthetics", but they tried to encode many important motions in forms and kata. Pause on 2:14 just after he finishes saying "...one line..." and look at his form. Boxers use this, most old school karate uses this ("Sanchin" stance); Krav Maga, Jeet Kune Do and Wing Chun stances are very similar.
@justinsnow3979
@justinsnow3979 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing xing yi, bagua and Chen tai chi for around 20 years. This man is very good id say!
@andrewzimba7432
@andrewzimba7432 8 ай бұрын
@14:59 Dude's punch sounds like a movie sound effect! Speed and power!
@invictawarrior
@invictawarrior 8 ай бұрын
The "whipping" reminds me of "reeling" Tai chi power. Awesome ways to transfer power thru your body. Loved the "Dragon method".
@moontan91
@moontan91 5 ай бұрын
this guy's so fast you can hear the air being ripped apart.
@BenFroidevaux
@BenFroidevaux 8 ай бұрын
Outstanding demo of Martial Theory of Xing-Yi Chuan Kung-Fu. Please make additional Videos with this extraordinary Sifu.....Thankyou!
@babyblu5590
@babyblu5590 8 ай бұрын
Bro is hurting the air...powerful!
@enby_kensei
@enby_kensei 8 ай бұрын
Glad that Kevin pointed out the similarities to ving tsun, because that's the first thing that I noticed. That grounded southern footwork with aggressive and efficient attacking of the centerline.
@Ry-di5gs
@Ry-di5gs 8 ай бұрын
omg you can hear and see the power going from his center core and through arms and fist --- crazy speed too
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