This YouTuber Steals From Smaller Creators

[@imdrewdoes]

thanks for covering this lud 🥰

[@jaredfisher7086]

good job on your content bud hope you make it far

[@cact0s_ulion405]

only 38 likes?! No way. Hope you blow up soon!!

[@cincaninca]

i bet you will be more popular than dream if you keep the banger content rolling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Hardcorecomicrelif]

Saw your vid first, honestly 10x better

[@cusmar9208]

Good job making original content and AMAZING JOB ON YOUR CHANNEL, videos are not boring and I can just listen to it while doing something else and imagining I'm you just travelling and experiencing the places myself, very amazing, keep it up!

[@dabi_]

Hey Lud, you’re an absolute legend for calling this out and it’s much appreciated. Andrew is a very thoughtful creator and it genuinely means a lot that you would stand up for him and smaller creators with your platform. I do do KZbin consulting, but I’m actually a straight up KZbinr with my own channel as well (albeit a tiny one with about 5K subs) and have had my content ideas also taken by much larger creators to much greater success, albeit in fortunately a less direct way. Contextually, Andrew actually only had 18K subs before we published the capsule hotel video, and even less when Brent stole the other video’s concept. Being so close to it, I respect him for how much work he put into it, and so am deeply appreciative of the time you took to talk about this.

[@alexkwan3]

what is KZbin consulting?

[@RaeneTheFaerie]

@@alexkwan3 You know how financial consulting works? Or when they bring in a new writer to rewrite a script? Kinda like that.

[@dabi_]

@@alexkwan3 KZbinrs will ask me for advice on how to grow their channels, in exchange for a fee. In my case specifically, I focus almost entirely on storytelling - in other words, working on a lot of the specific details of how the video is edited. The reason KZbinrs would ask for that advice is because if you make a video in a certain way, then you get better retention (i.e. people watch for longer), and KZbin's algorithm will give your video more views if the retention is higher. Hence why I was part of Andrew's team in the first place, and why I was very very familiar with everything in the video.

[@tif]

@@dabi_ ur clearly great at ur job 👏

[@prdproductions]

@@dabi_ What's your expertise? If your channel isn't that big, how do bigger channels trust you to know you can grow a channel?

[@Zrynnn]

kind of crazy how large youtube has become. When I found youtube i knew all the top creators since they were all less than 1mil subs, now theres a kid with 26mil subs that ive never heard of

[@Adrift_]

Facts when a KZbinr reached 1 million back in the day it was huge news everyone knew about and now it's like who?

[@theAlex2577]

same. bro kept showing all these youtubers and names and i kept saying wh omegalul. its kinda sad tho cause youtube doesnt have that community feel it had in 2012-2016

[@Scopatone]

Everytime stream awards happen and I see that a Spanish KZbinr wins most watched or something or a Spanish Twitch streamer is most subbed I'm always taken aback because it's this whole other side of the platform that I didn't even know was that big and they're literally stomping everyone else

[@Outwardpd]

It is also because the content delivery system changed so much, subscribing to someone doesn't mean anything now unless you also opt into receiving direct notifications from them.

[@SheikAshii]

@@Adrift_ Yeah. It's like back then there were only like 10 million youtube users max. And now there are more than billion. 1 million meant more back then than 100 million does now :(

[@pitekargos6880]

If only KZbin would use it's tools to protect the creators on it's own platform, instead of letting all of this shit happen.

[@DewthWish]

huh same shit different day

[@C_J_B]

they're too busy wiping their greasy sh*t stains and footprints with money😅

[@camdomkin]

they only help advertisers with that cus they pay the big bucks

[@idanzick2710]

You know what makes lud different from other content creators who steal? Lud flat out constantly admits he is taking content and making it his own. He doesn't often call it an original idea unless it actually is. Edited: More like Smogul Smail. Gottem

[@imaweabo7080]

@МеаtСаnуоn 🅥 i dont Even want to know what that link is (cat)

He also doesn't just yoink - he twists too.

[@NicoNicoNessieSub]

Honesty is a very important thing.

[@bananamusician]

Yeah and also I think it's different to use someones video idea and making it in your own style, than just blatantly ripping the script off without any originality whatsoever. As long as there is enough individuality I think it's fine to get inspiration from other people's content

[@trapPsych0]

Who's ludwig... this is mogul mail

[@hippoking8111]

"if your over 20 he's this guy in the middle." I've never felt so called out in my life.

[@sleezybeets]

All the creators need to do is say "loved this idea from (insert creator here) and love their content, wanted to try it myself!" You give credit, you show appreciation and fans of both creators get the warm fuzzies from knowing two of their favorite creators know of each other. Not too hard to be a part of a community rather than see this all as a competition.

[@skmgeek]

"the warm fuzzies" is the perfect way to describe it, couldn't have said it better myself :3

[@willwhite356]

This is what is needed more and is much more liked as often both creators receive more views and more positive feelings towards the creators.

[@jonahpwns]

I think there's also a difference between stealing an idea and completely copying. Like he could have done different hotels but did the same ones

[@chosenuwu]

it does make me very happy when they do that uwu

[@agps4418]

it changes when the said youtuber gets arrogant and entitled due to their own fame 😂

[@TheStellarJay]

I once asked a bigger youtuber if he wanted to collab with me on a video and 2 weeks later he uploaded the EXACT SAME idea by himself. I can't prove that he didn't just have the same idea as me but I still felt like shit. Stealing content is scum behavior

[@someone2951]

What KZbinr?

[@RandoSando.]

If you have texts,emails, etc then you should have proof and should absolutely call them out

[@Researcher_Jim]

Start drama. Seek vengeance.

[@shahidburki731]

If you sent message and shared idea just post those screen shots

[@LightSilver7]

so? share the wealth. greedy & selfish.

[@SaithMasu12]

The reason why they steal from smaller creators is because it goes under the radar most of the time and the likeness of a smaller creator fighting back and be heard is also smaller. These thiefs are just morally bankrupt.

[@stellamariss3335]

Yeah it happens for all kinds of creators. I see it often with small independent shops. Their designs are stolen by bigger shops and it usually goes unnoticed. The only way they can get something done is if they have an audience big enough to bring attention to it… which is where the larger creator abuses their power.

[@lilschlagen]

The fact that I'm 21 and don't recognize this guy speaks volumes about how well Lud nailed that intro lol.

[@azemoth8122]

I'm 16 and I didn't recognize him either lmao

[@slashbat2375]

I only know him because commentary youtubers love talking about him, never actually watched his videos lol

[@friedrice9511]

i only know him cuz he appeared in some mobile game ad once, i dont even remember what game, i just remember him loudly proclaiming his name at the start of the ad

[@paltil]

Same

[@aprammus9580]

Im 16 never seen that idiot before

[@leovonch]

I'll never forget the time I applied for Riot Games for Game Design and they had a cover letter asking, "Tell us one thing you would change about the game." So I spent about thirty minutes detailing a few specific items that were causing problems (This was back in S3-S4 of the game.) They sent me an email back saying thank you but we went with someone else and I was like, cool, ok. Two weeks later, they released a patch and almost word for word they took my ideas from the cover letter and implemented it in the game. They even used an entire paragraph that I had typed out, so I know it was intentional. I never felt so taken aback in my life lmao.

[@zir456]

That's your fault for explaining too much

[@blublubblub]

​@@zir456 victim blaming must be your favorite sport. Your family must be so proud of you. Same for the garbage people who liked your comment.

[@blublubblub]

​@@zir456 this is called plagiarism, and in other communities or industries that aren't essentially run and controlled by sociopathic predators like the game industry is, it's an immediate cause for the end of the plagiarist's career.

[@dog_corn]

@@zir456 that’s a stupid opinion but whatever it’s the internet

[@Verylengthyapple]

@@zir456 i like how we live in a society where 9 times out of 10, people blame the victim

[@bAc0nBoY755]

imagine how brent feels when he goes home after making all these cringe videos for 5 year olds, when he's all alone, with nothing but his thoughts, and he can't stop thinking about the fact that he has no meaningful accomplishments and has not provided anything of actual value to this world. I hope he is aware enough to one day realize this but I doubt it

[@quekumber]

Money does a pretty good job blurring out that lvl of personal development and awareness,

[@hexes5122]

Brent Rivera literally got famous on Vine, 10 years ago, by stealing content from smaller creators. Dude has been doing this for so long, there is no way he thinks he is doing anything wrong at this point. He was 15 back then, but it seems like he really hasn't matured much past that. He knows his child audience doesn't care enough to hold him accountable.

[@bAc0nBoY755]

@@hexes5122 @quekumber facts

[@eevafgh]

i feel like for some reason especially young youtubers forget that plagiarism is an actual thing lmao?? also there is definitely a difference with being INSPIRED and STEALING

[@Dkgow]

With the way the internet is now and days and everything being "googleable" and looking things up on wikipedia. I don't think plagiarism is being taught, or emphasized at all anymore.

[@Gafferman]

Could you elaborate on how doing something, filming it, editing it all on your end would be stealing? Did the original creator 'own' the idea of staying in these hotels?

[@DaFifaKid]

is brent rivera a YOUNG youtuber?

[@BoredMarcus]

For some reason? what could it be? Didn't Ludwig argue against Nintendo just LAST VIDEO, because they had the audacity to claim what was legally their copyright? I wonder where this disrespect comes from. LMFAO

[@GolenCheeseIt]

@@BerkKayhan No shit. That's why there's no legal action. It may not _technically_ break any official rules, but it's still a dick thing to do.

[@beccaperalta]

Brent is the kid who screams the joke someone said quieter and getting all the laughs

[@frogsalesman]

To be fair, Brent probably doesn't get away with it, as he can take a funny joke and make it cringe

[@Researcher_Jim]

@@frogsalesmanso he screams it louder but fucks up the delivery, and a few people halfheartedly laugh while everyone else sits in awkward silence?

[@LightSilver7]

whatever gets you success. in the end it doesn't matter.

[@Phrate]

@@LightSilver7 that's how you get billionaires my guy

[@Nippleless_Cage]

🎯

[@JortsKitchen]

It happened to me… a big creator took some of my original recipe ideas and now people comment on those videos saying I stole them.

[@AnymMusic]

considering that the like-dislike ratio is already 50% here, I seriously doubt that Brent immediately put the little shoutout in the description and only did it because he got caught

[@Emma-ei2zk]

Its giving people who post peoples art that isnt theirs and then credit them in an unpinned comment when they're called out for stealing

[@light_h0kage776]

The equivalent of tiktokers pinning a comment of person calling them out and saying the original creator and just avoiding it the next couple of videos

[@zir456]

@@Emma-ei2zk art world definitely different for this kind of content

[@ToastySNXZ]

Bro basically paid Drew with "exposure" 💀. That is bottom-barrel low lmao

[@BurntSushi.]

HOW DO YOU SEE THE DISLIKES

[@dadotic]

I love seeing Lud defend smaller creators. It's like he remembers what it was like trying to get to this point and truly respects the creators and work they put in.

[@Talectyl]

Respect to him 🍷 🗿

[@bajla99]

What's really interesting about this is that those smaller creators have their own style, their unique ideas and videos, like a brand. By snatching everything from around him on YT, Brent creates this image where he has no uniqueness, he is not a guy that someone watches for a brand of videos, but a guy who we most likely laugh at. He dives into everything, but he doesn't create anything, he is just farming views, and there is no entertainment value. I hope no brands will make deals with him ever. I saw some collaborations with him recently and it got me to despise these creators who I originally liked that they made sth with Brent ... awful

[@McMintyGuy]

Thank you Mogul Mail, Someone like Ludwig would never give this good of commentary.

[@DJILMarioBoys]

My name…..

[@FlopNonStop]

@@Jeff-theBuilder mogul mail = Ludwig Mogul killed Ludwig and stole his identity

[@whatdoievenputhere11]

@@thinkgocrazy it's a bot.

[@Andrei-wj7hg]

I know this joke is old, but it's funny everytime lol

[@BrigCommander]

Ludwig steals food from homeless people and then doesn't even eat it

[@JoshSlavin]

LUDWIG IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN THANKS FOR THE LOVE! You’re one of my biggest inspirations on the platform, so I’m honored to make it into a vid! You’re 100% on the money with that last take- the worst part about Brent robbing my video and script was that his entire fan base came after me because they thought I was the one that stole HIS idea 😵‍💫😂

[@edifiersemper]

Sad to hear that, I loved that video - a great concept! Keep it up :)

[@ChrispyWings]

this rubs me the wrong way. got yourself a new sub, keep up the amazing work dude!

[@smilesfordays]

They can’t even read the dates on a video? Don’t feel bad man. Obviously his fans aren’t the brightest (which is why they are probably fans.) ✌️

[@zack-lk8if]

@@smilesfordays half his fanbase probably can't even read

[@Retw86]

Hey dude. It's a great video. I've subbed. Keep up the good work man 😊

[@theodoratalon5368]

Thank you for covering these sorts of things. Just a few weeks ago, I saw a situation on Instagram about an artist I follow. She's a smaller artist, and someone stole her work, put it as their own. And because the thief has a bigger following, people actually did accuse the original artist of "stealing" even tho the idea was originally hers. It was a really sad situation, and it sucks that it's more common than we think that these kinds of things happen. Thank you for a least sharing some awareness on this

[@XCHADHIGGINSX]

I would love to hear the inner dialogue of Brent and how he justifies this to himself. This is absolutely despicable.

[@lesigh3410]

You're better off not letting his narcissism potentially rub off on you

[@XCHADHIGGINSX]

@@lesigh3410 😂

[@KyokujiFGC]

Everything about the dude's demeanor says he's a narcissist. I doubt he gives a fuck.

[@levievil9220]

@@lesigh3410 le sigh you should change your name to le roaster

[@ulisessalduna4351]

You see he doesn’t have an inner dialogue, all there is in his head is that chimp with the cymbals that starts playing whenever he sees a smaller creator's good ideas to steal

[@kaimedar]

Thanks for standing up for the small creators.

[@Gafferman]

No smaller creator was harmed, no content they made was stolen...

[@burnttoast26]

@@Gafferman Is this bait?

[@Chops.22]

@@Gafferman found the alt account

[@CheeseyHR]

@@burnttoast26 100% lol

[@Arykthan]

no worries man

[@isaiahomarihill8736]

The KZbin creator space feels feels like my microeconomics lessons come to life. (Multiple firms in a market, when one firm innovates, everyone follows, until that idea is oversaturated, then hype dies down)

[@noisepollution4473]

The issue with these YT creators who make videos for a younger demographic is that their audience hasn't fully figured out how to handle finding out someone they look up to sucks. That younger audience tends to default to "anyone criticizing something I like is wrong." Not blaming the audience for that. It takes time and growth to be able to handle that sort of thing well. The times I've had creators I like do something awful have been genuinely difficult to come to terms with, as parasocial as that is. These creators can plagerize, they can disrespect the dead, they can say horrible things to people in person or in DMs and there won't be any real consequences. Their audience will defend them. I think it's super lame to take advantage of younger people like that.

[@helpmegetto1k4channelnotab78]

well no coming from someone that wasnt so old so long ago nah thats just some dumber fans even as kids in the comments you had a brain reading words even in controversial spots, and i was also unsupervised its a, individual thng

[@TheRockinDonkey]

Don't kid yourself. Older people fall into this trap as well.

[@MrZoomah]

@@TheRockinDonkey That's why we have Republicans and Democrats and not just people who vote on best policy.

[@dustf1nger118]

@@MrZoomah Yup

[@brittanylevinson741]

This is exactly why teaching our kids how to think critically and properly research facts matters. Being young isn’t an excuse to just accept everything for face value. Lots of people suck, especially people in the public eye.

[@spectre8526]

crazy how this ludwig guy is also stealing from mogul mail smh

[@epidia1025]

unbelievable that society lets this happen without sufficient consequences

[@Nutcruncher]

such an L bruh, man even stole his face 😡

[@slashbat2375]

Literally deep faking Ludwig's face

[@fredericoespinoza]

enough bro this is cringe

[@sussy.skittles]

And Ludwig doesn't even try hiding it bro stole Mogul's face and recording room and gives no credits

[@chemical_rat]

When somebody says a joke louder than you and gets all the credit:

[@TheTitaniumSamurott]

Man it would've been so funny if his camera was frozen for the entire video

[@drchanciepoo]

Yeah it would’ve been.

[@ZedNull.]

@МеаtСаnуоn 🅥 Thank you fake Papa Meat

[@biggav9715]

That freeze frame is perfect

[@SoySantiagoCastillo]

I mean it’s not “stealing”, it’s called a “mogul move”.

[@sanders4362]

Have you ever heard of the mah situation? I think you would change your mind if you heard about it.

[@capitalistball2924]

@@sanders4362 What is the mah situation

[@GavinFromWeb]

@@capitalistball2924the situation with mah dick.

[@Lurdusaur]

@@capitalistball2924 o no this is gonna end badly

[@GolenCheeseIt]

@@zyncwargaming179 That's why they asked. To hear the joke

[@lally1027]

2:56 brent really used CAPITALS TO ATTRACT THE LITTLE SMALL KIDS THAT ARE STUPID!! PLUS 2 EXCLAMATION POINTS TO MAKE THE CHERRY ON TOP!!

[@mmgmagic]

Something that I always appreciate in these videos is how all the websites are organised for the video. It makes it feel like I'm watching a PowerPoint presentation on the subject, as opposed to just a generic drama video. Really neat stuff!

[@lechuga95]

.me too, but it's also funny that the English major cites his sources. degree not wasted!! :')

[@CHEFPKR]

This happens all over the platform, unfortunately. I know drew and I know how much effort they put into this video. It took them months. I used to get my inspo from cooking KZbinrs. Now, I doubt anyone would use my videos for inspo because even I don't want to try to recreate them.

[@bibubbletea]

Omg didn’t expect to see you in a mogul mail comments section, looking forward to buying your cookbook when I get the chance

[@TehBananaBread]

Fact that half youtube is "react content" is a clear indicator that all these youtubers have 0 ethics or morale when it comes to stealing. All they care about is the fame and money.

[@snesguy9176]

​​@@TehBananaBread honestly there good and bad among react content. Like asmongold is a great example of a good reactor even if you don't like him. He'll stop and frequently comment on the content. His reaction to a 15 minute video will be like 40 minutes long. But yeah most "react" content is just some one staring brain dead at the video. That's just stealing and reuploading as far as I'm concerned.

[@overripeschnitzel]

brent's "i built a $25,000 dream dog house" is taken from another video called "building a heated dog house for canadian winters" by drew builds stuff, i watched it a bit ago and realized "hm, this looks familiar" so i looked it up in my history and there it was 💀

[@nourmuhsen]

I would like to add something. The original video is a twist on Connor and Chris's wacky weekend. They went to that capsule hotel a year ago. That's okay though. It's basically Inspiration VS Forging Art conversation. The original video was inspired by Abroad in Japan and CdawgVA while that KZbinr's video is basically stealing.

[@MysticCat21]

I knew i had seen some of the hotels from wacky weekend!! But yeah, while the general theme is the same between Connor/Chris's video and the smaller ytber's, the latter changed the narrative and added some originality. He took inspiration and made his own thing. Whereas this brent guy seemingly just copies instead of yoink & twisting.

[@spriggsyuk]

every location as far as I could tell has been in either an abroad in japan video or a wacky weekend

[@nourmuhsen]

@@MysticCat21 Yeah exactly.

[@nourmuhsen]

@@spriggsyuk Yeah

[@Nadia1989]

And Connor and Chris took inspiration from the silent Japanese travel channels.

[@hoshi6539]

2:03 Dabi stopped murdering heroes and opened a twitter account

[@Lainonline_]

LMFAOO

[@ShiloBuff]

I love your moral stance and that you are are sticking up for the little guys against bullies.

[@Conspirachu]

The worst part of this problem is when people attack you for stealing when you were the one stolen from. It really sucks. Gaslighting on overdrive.

[@Knarfy]

Hilarious that I showed up twice in those searches 😂 I also partially got the ideas for those exact videos from Fundy. The idea of using ideas from other creators is for sure something that I've thought a lot about. I agree with your thoughts here. Even if an idea is similar, it's important to keep the videos themselves original. Also, creators need to come up with fresh ideas themselves instead of duplicating for profit. Brent Rivera is frustrating :/ Big fan Lud. Keep up the great work!

[@mightymeatymech]

i understand thinking about it for sure, sometimes if i wanna post something inspired by someone's work i'll still ask their permission even though i'm not even a micro influencer lol taking inspiration and giving credit aint nearly the same as plagiarizing for profit. it's an interesting conversation though cause some people pretend that because youtube//widely accessible film making is relatively new, the rules of art plagiarism don't apply to the medium idk ur work but have fun, top g

[@zack-lk8if]

@@mightymeatymech bro can't go one second without that Tate meat in ur mouth

[@helpmegetto1k4channelnotab78]

so wholesome it makes me wanna actualy watch minecraft things--

[@chie970]

"This is reverse Robin Hood." Yes, the Nobles.

[@keremaybehere]

What's even crazier is he isn't stopping at stealing KZbin videos, but also fraudulently stealing other KZbinrs' revenues. A good example is Dumpy, another smaller creator compared to Brent, who made a series of videos reacting to Brent's videos and making a few jokes, which would count as transformative content. But because Brent got too butthurt that someone was making fun of him, he claimed the videos that Dumpy made under the pretense that he only reuploaded Brent's videos without any changes whatsoever.

[@canadianstupidgirl2373]

What’s even crazier is that he made it in Forbes 30 under 30 list.

[@davidlarson3905]

@@canadianstupidgirl2373 It's been well-documented that the modern day Forbes 30 Under 30 is almost exclusively comprised of people that *paid* for a placement on the list.... which.. in this case is not surprising at all LOL

[@ElSandwich777]

I have never even heard of this guy before and I’ve been on this platform for 16 years lol Guess that means he’s reaching his target audience just fine.

[@eglol]

Never heard of this guy either

[@starlightlilly7203]

Everything I’ve learnt about this guy I’ve learnt against my will

[@themotorsportfanaticyt]

@@starlightlilly7203 same here. My cousin sis enjoys his videos so whenever she's over and wants to watch youtube, it's through my account lol. So now my feed of motorsport and gaming (and a bit of sniperwolf) content is interrupted by one his stupid videos

[@JoshuaDay0550]

same. Have been on youtube since its inception lol. Never heard of this trashcan.

[@hehasnolips1371]

That’s because he really just started youtube he was more popular because of his vines in 2016

[@UwUnicode]

bruh, Brent updated the thumbnail to have him wearing a green shirt and just flipped it horizontally thinking nobody would notice. 💀

[@HeisenbergFam]

Mogul doing a double upload is more consistent than 50% of US marriages

[@Fostero7]

You've already commented this on call me kevins art video

[@summerkerr]

​@@Fostero7 i literally just came from that vid omg

[@Fostero7]

@@summerkerr lol, I see you have good tastes

[@williamnicol8236]

Not even giving them a shout out in the video is the worst offense (in my humble). It's like saying "i'm not vocally going to give you credit or a mention but don't worry it's not anything you did, my ego just won't allow to. Anyways here's some small print in a place no one will look".

[@LightSilver7]

cry

[@TheMortalKomic]

​@@LightSilver7 burn

[@helpmegetto1k4channelnotab78]

@@TheMortalKomic lightly for the sizzle

[@helpmegetto1k4channelnotab78]

he got that lack of empathy emotional capacity

[@jpa596]

Ludwig is like that middle Vamp kid from South Park "im gna be a hybrid Vampire" just copying the 2 before him

[@adg9042]

Brent Rivera is the equivalent of that one kid who has a double digit IQ and takes some kids homework and just puts his name at the top

[@elokin300]

4:07 “Most of KZbin is a human centipede” Wow I was *not* ready for that analogy

[@blueberrywaffle]

same 😭

[@Owen-qo4qg]

After years, I finally see someone exposing this KZbinr. Thanks The number of tiktok, reels, videos he's been "inspired" by without ever crediting anyone for years

[@xxbeatuupzz]

I think it just comes down to respect for who you're taking the idea from. It's hard to come up with genuinely good ideas, so it makes sense that people take from others when they see one. But there's a huge difference between doing enough to look like you care and actually caring. For example, I've seen countless videos that stole an idea, and some literally say at the beginning "thanks to x youtuber for the idea". Also taking the effort to twist it to your own style/ put in your own work rather than a direct rip off is a big sign that you actually respect the person who came up with the idea. And if you're directly ripping an idea off of many different creators, that's too far

[@ItsJustValHere]

Yeah! And sometimes, it's fun watching both videos because different people react differently to the same thing or situation. But Brent Rivera just does kinda the same, so why would someone be interested in watching him do the same again? Or why would his audience be interested in checking out the original creator?

[@theblobconsumes4859]

This is pretty sad, but nothing is sadder than Brent's actual content.

[@wendydelisse9778]

At 7:18 the topic of stealing video thumbnails came up. I had almost forgotten about the thumbnail stealing drama that happened a little over 2 years ago in mid-2020 between the large then roughly 6 million subscriber KZbin channel "DramaAlert" based in the USA, and the smaller, then roughly 600,000 subscriber count KZbin channel "JT", based in Britain. The short version of the story is that DramaAlert prominently used a JT thumbnail as a display to enhance viewership of a DramaAlert video about the banning by KZbin of the LeafyIsHere channel, without paying any artist fee to JT, and without even giving credit to JT within the KZbin video by DramaAlert. JT then issued a copyright strike, and then retracted after the threat of legal fees being run up to many hundreds of thousands of British pounds, and in addition paid to DramaAlert an amount of money roughly equal to what an artist fee would be. For more than 2 years, the JT channel on KZbin has been mysteriously silenced, perhaps as a hidden message by larger creators to smaller creators that in practice smaller creators have to let larger creators steal stuff from them for free. Later, in December 2020, then president Donald Trump signed a new copyright law in the USA that made such bully boy tactics by large creators more legally risky, but even now in 2023, similar bully boy tactics by larger creators against smaller creators might still be going on, by way of one or more legal loopholes, by which large creators can in practice continue to steal copyright material from small creators for free, or even extract money from the smaller creators that they steal from. People should look into such things, and see if copyright law needs even further revision. There is much that people complain about with regard to the December 2020 copyright bill that was signed by Donald Trump, and if the problem of larger creators stealing thumbnails for free has not been fixed, there is then that one more reason for Congress in America to take another look at copyright law as it stands now in June 2023, and for a new international copyright treaty to be written.

[@thomasperathoner2067]

I love how in both thumbnails there are a pair of legs hanging out of the capsule😂 brent not even trying at all

[@KatsyFNF]

"Let me copy your homework." "Okay, but change it up differently so it doesn't seem like you fully copied it." Except nobody gave Brent the permission to copy their work.

[@disgustibuss]

If I was the one taking the "go have fun with your 100 subs" sure as hell that hotel would have had it's first real dead body

[@boggersegg6237]

Dont you love how brent’s content is for young kids while he has some fnaf lore with his sister

[@jesse5505]

yeah and its fucking weird dude..it creeps me out

[@eclecticaloutlet]

what. what does that mean? I cannot fathom "fnaf lore" applying to any situation in a way that makes it the most reasonable descriptor to use

[@freshlymemed5680]

What does "fnaf lore" even mean? Convoluted?

[@ShirikiDE]

@@freshlymemed5680 more like sweet home Alabama

[@CadgerChristmasLightShow]

@@freshlymemed5680 him and his sister basically do incest content together. He puts her ass and tits in thumbnails like it's nothing and has her dressed in very revealing clothing all the time. Dude is a straight clout goblin who is fine with incest vibes for more views.

[@lilfern3466]

"He could upload a video of him literally shitting into a trashcan for 1 hour uninterrupted and that would receive millions of views." Brent, this idea is still up for grabs.

[@bararobberbaron859]

And it would be indistinguishable from his current level of uploads.

[@Spencer_TheSpender]

“This idea is still up for grabs” maybe that’s why he _doesnt_ want it

[@sulieus21]

he cant, he has to wait for someone else to do it first, that's his schtick. god forbid he has to use his brain and be original.

[@friorento4416]

That dog house video from Zealous was from another youtuber called Drew Builds Stuff, but at least in Zealous video he says where the idea came from, and link the original video

[@dragofand]

Thank you for the "my cam froze" message at the start. I'll have times where the video freezes for a couple seconds. Most of the time it's a problem with the youtube video, but sometimes it is a problem with my browser and I gotta reset. The message really does help me not have to spend a bit less time debugging.

[@greek-god]

It's the same way that sealing from a large chain is not nearly as detrimental as stealing from a local store. To Brent it's one of many videos, but to Drew it's a quarter of his entire channel.

[@AtomicNiro]

Drew went from 76k subs to 243k in the 3 months since this has been uploaded and his capsule video has gone up almost another 1 mil views. This some nice exposure for Drew

[@dadtookmytv]

I feel like the creators that have younger age groups tend to do more of this because the kids don't notice it since they are probably lookin gat that topic in general through multiple vids and not caring but its also the kids that then take from that and do it themselves, its basically a chain reaction of my generation forgetting that there is such thing as plagiarizing

[@Dinkleberg96]

Brent is known for also taking down every video that shows a little piece of his video even for commentary

[@imjody]

I feel like I could learn about SO MANY new KZbin channels by just using other people's logins, and browsing their Homepage. I haven't heard of 99% of the channels that I saw pop up in your video, yet they mostly have millions; if not tens of millions of views. It's actually crazy.

[@syan2240]

0:07 did you have to call me a boomer this hard?

[@forchyforchy5456]

you should have included the scandal with false DMCA's he did against smaller creators that criticized him

[@osbornejohnson7919]

The reason I believe that taking ideas from larger YTers is OK is that your imitations won't overwhelm the algorithm. Someone more popular will have their vid brought up first cause they have more people to boost their metrics. Doing this to a smaller guy takes away traffic in a way that it wouldn't if you get an idea from a bigger guy.

[@phia7701]

the fact that brent changed his thumbnail for the video ever since hes been receiving backlash on stealing the video idea 💀

[@usbpresents6961]

I'm pretty sure the doghouse video at 7:02 is also a ripoff of: Building a HEATED DOG HOUSE for Canadian Winters by Drew Builds Stuff. The dog house is very clearly heavily inspired by it from the thumbnail. Edit: should've watched further since it was mentioned, but as far as I know, the video I referred to was the original

[@Rlblet]

Ludwig: this creator steals thumbnails. Also him stealing both thumbnails in one..

[@shingoji524]

The fact that he also changed his thumbnail recently too is just shameless

[@NevelaxYT]

What makes me mad is that I’ve seen Brent Riveras video and thought it was an original idea, so I liked it. I never saw the original and therefore couldn’t give the smaller creator credit 9:29

[@mikemajor6138]

I love how he said "if you're over the age of 20, it's this guy" cause I had no idea who he was talking about before that 😂

[@damsaucy]

brent rivera that one guy in school whose friends are all 2 grades lower

[@tomsunday]

Thank you for standing up for small creators. You are an inspiration Lud.

[@Boss24601]

He actively harms them with every video he and others he defends react to. Don’t act like he really cares. He is doing this because its a great topic to talk about right now. If he truly cared about small creators, he would take a stance against reaction content, likely sacrificing some of his friendships and some easy money and views/subscribers.

[@JohnyMeBoi]

​@@Boss24601 hurrr durrr must talk shit on a wholesome comment durrrr

[@Boss24601]

@@JohnyMeBoi just because it’s wholesome doesn’t make it right. Would it be wrong to reply to a comment praising hitler for giving food to puppies? Thats pretty wholesome

[@gtl3007]

@@Boss24601 I agree

[@gtl3007]

@@JohnyMeBoi ludwig literally steals his shit as well and is a sellout for KZbin

[@alukhan_]

3:43 thats not exactly stealing. "Steal like an artist" is a book that talks about artists taking inspiration from other artists and then making their own thing. Taking a concept or technique from another artist and applying it to your own art which is different from the other isnt exactly stealing. If that were then there would never be any genres, every genre would belong to someone.

[@mrmcfishy]

So cool of Ludwig to show off his ventriloquy skills at the start of the video.

[@Milwa1]

I really do want to know now how many videos Brent as stolen from smaller KZbinrs, and got away with it. Because honestly we could have no idea.

[@PowerSynopsis]

I don't think we'll ever know cause we don't watch him and I don't know any dumb 12 year olds.

[@Milwa1]

@@PowerSynopsis Honestly exactly what I thought typing that lol

[@strypz.]

it’s like stealing from walmart versus your local mom and pop shop

[@HannaSis]

I think this definitely strikes an interesting conversation about intellectual property when it comes to digital content. Additionally, the power dynamics between large and small creators. There's certainly a lot to unpack in terms of digital media.

[@DeathnoteBB]

0:55 Ah yes, the Danny Gonzalez Kerfuffle

[@Kid_Penjamin]

" my viewers are so much older and cooler and they're basically in hospice " ... this i found very funny

[@gryzz6873]

There is a fine line between fair use and plagiarism, Ludwig has always stayed on the end of Fair Use, whilst Brent straight up leaps over the line. There's a huge difference between taking an idea/set of ideas and spinning more-so to your content and audience, than there is straight up ripping everything from a video.

[@messingaround.]

This video really showed me how influential Micheal Reeves really is. Bravo Micheal!

[@-v2i0]

i'm surprised his computer can even handle that many tabs lol

[@WokeDiogenes]

today's mogul mail stare, 6/10 very deep and threatening, it really looked like he was winking at me and somehow messed it up and blinked both eyes instead

[@Kylee0107]

The sad thing is, he’s been doing this for YEARS and usually never gives credit at all (even in the description)

[@flyingcicata9675]

I would like to deposit the term “Round Robin” for someone who is stealing from the poor in a reverse Robinhood scenario.

[@Deived]

Dude thanks for the Drama Update 😂 Ain’t fair for new creators 🔥

[@XandstarSan]

Imagine those who don't ever find out that their content is being stolen. :/ People don't ask for permission or give credit.

[@N8_]

i think reverse robin hood is just commiting felonies with no intent to assist anyone from ur self.

[@TerracottaArmyMusic]

Today's a beautiful day because we get to talk about the one thing everybody loves, KZbinr Drama.

[@madoxbremer4825]

im so glad he talked about this

[@BoredMarcus]

why? who cares. No one of the 26 mio followers of him will ever see this nor will they care. The only good thing maybe could be that drew gets some more followers, I at least followed him.

[@GolenCheeseIt]

​@@BoredMarcus "Why? who cares." _Lists reasons why, and gives proof that you cared_

[@zack-lk8if]

@@BoredMarcus because he's blatantly stealing from and hurting small creators and Ludwig has a large fanbase that can help not only discredit Brent but give the views and recognition the smaller creator deserves. it's not rocket science buddy

[@Lonech]

@@BoredMarcus You care enough that you're posting multiple comments in this comment section.

[@-Grovesy-]

0:08 Literally spot on. 23 and had no idea whom it was. Thank you or clarifying and also making it humorous.

[@bjunsen]

lud is always so logical and straight forward, im very appreciative

[@LowbrowDeluxe]

It sounds cliche, but the difference is art. The original creator, even if inspired by other videos, was like, "You know what'd be cool? Making a living/side gig out of making cool videos." Brent, like most of the youtube channels that specifically target a younger audience clearly going in on "how can I make a buck off idiots and kids?" Can't wait for next years vid on him running NFTs with Logan Paul or whatever the next step for his kind is.

[@harrisonmitchell4159]

my favorite obnoxious yoink and twist is tier lists. they're such a meme to even do now i love it lol.

[@solodolo9450]

Everyone just doing what Mr. Best does. Even down to the editing style and cadence of their narration. It's like newscasters but youtube.

[@pnwmax]

Brent Rivera is human AI 😂

[@Watermelon-Guy]

This reminds me of a friend of mine who has around 30 subs told me that a bigger creator stole their videos and put a watermark on them, which caused them to delete the original videos.

[@Noxa9]

Don't put yourself in his sinking boat. You owned what you was doing you didn't lie or hide it and you made it your own with the twist!