Why Does an Edit Feel Right? (According to Science)

[@akileshmuppainmath8263]

I feel so lucky to be part of this generation, we get precious things​ for free

[@salvadorarreolarodriguez6165]

agreed! :D

[@jas_bataille]

Very true.

[@emanuelezamboni6782]

I think this continuously.

[@bradbell4022]

Lucky and cursed? It seems a 2 sided coin. Computers democratise and give us power, but also give it to everyone else, so it's harder to make a living. We get professional tools, but work becomes de-professionalised. You can be anywhere to do anything, so you're always at home -- except the rare times you're in the Himalayas. The telephone lets you keep in touch a great distances, so you move great distances - and never phone. Your mobile phone will ring on top of the world, but it will be a marketing scam. Answering - how could you not - will cost £2. The internet means a client is never looking over your shoulder while you edit -- I don't see a down side to this :-)

[@asheer5854]

That means we must do even more extraordinary things!

[@allthingsgumball]

I'll come back to this video when I get smarter.

[@Andrelas11]

@Foul Productions Exactly what I was going to say before reading your comment. When you try to explain why the "feeling" works, it begins to get complicated. Just focus on what feels right and watch your edit over and over 100 times and you will eventually begin to hone in on what and where to cut, trip, splice, etc.

[@mehmetakifsar8737]

me same

[@ahmedabouzid8903]

Dude, I thought I'm the only one on that boat thanks for your comment! I didn't drown alone :D

[@reanetsemoleleki8219]

Nah, there's a lot of highbrow language in this video making it inaccessible. The why's of editing aren't complicated and I don't think they should be difficult to explain. It also would have helped to show multiple examples of what they mean.

[@jarlfenrir]

@@reanetsemoleleki8219 Well said. I came to here to learn something. Not to be told "you know to little to understand this".

[@wilberforce95]

This is a concept I've never really considered: in a sense you have to edit/construct a film to appeal to the viewer's body as well as their mind. cool video.

[@giancork1656]

That is if you think about the two as a dichotomy. I would like to think though that the body is, to many extent, an 'embodiment' and extension of the mind. The memory of a movement is stored in the mind and the body at the same time: we know a movement intrinsically with both. It is fascinating. Same way that is fascinating to think where an emotion 'lives' and is it felt within the body. On a slightly different note is interesting to note that some says that a trauma can get 'stored' in your body and linked to a certain emotion. For example, if you fell from a horse and broke a leg, the feeling you felt in that moment gets 'locked' with the physical trauma. So it can happen that a similar emotional response but to a different event could trigger sensations of physical pain or discomfort in the same area.

[@Leprutz]

Don't overdo it hombre. They are explaining in a very scientific way how edit works. But the editors when they edit they just trust their guts and their feelings. They are never thinking of: I must take the movement the time and the space into consideration. Otherwise they'd all get bonkers. This Time Space Movement happens in our brains in a matter of miliseconds and then our feeling tells us if it is right or not. Never overthink it.

[@Kevin_Street]

The editors are using their judgement, which comes from experience. Their gut gives them a good result because they've spent a lot of time editing film before this. I agree with you that they're not overthinking it in the moment, but they had to put in a lot of earlier thought over the years to get to the point where they can do that.

[@BigMac8000]

Excellent summary.

[@shatterpointgames]

After watching this I feel like a better editor, but I don't know what I learned haha

[@DNdavidsonsnation]

I've learned that less is more. No need to put every god damn details to get your audience to understand what's going on. This might be why i hate vlog/vloggers so much. They all put way too much b-roll of unnecessary things because they think it add to the story while in fact it takes away from it.

[@girmonsproductions]

@@DNdavidsonsnation thank you for this comment, I shall save this and keep that in mind when I will be editing my stuff. Cheers

[@SnailHatan]

@@DNdavidsonsnation This is incredibly case-dependent. Some stories require detail, some don’t.

[@TomBolles]

Blade Runner is one of my favorite films and I have never noticed that cut with the owl's movement matching Deckard's. Amazing study. Absolutely beautiful. I've never thought about the editing of that film, but obviously it was effective since it is among my favorites. Love these videos Sven!

[@dart3097]

Remembering there are FIVE versions of Blade Runner... which ‘answers’ (or at least speaks to the question, “Who is in control of editing? The director or the editor.” The answer here might be, BOTH or NEITHER. I typically prefer the original cut: because first impressions last and are the standard by which the following versions are measured.

[@Kpopzoom]

The owl is looking out of the large window at the transporter flying towards and subsequently into the building - nothing to do with Deckard or his head. Jeese... talk about fake intellectuals seeing what they want to see!

[@caden-reynolds]

bruh that blade runner thing got me feeling inadequate but inspired

[@louisuniverse]

it just goes to show what real cinema editing is. It's not about this happens and then this happens and then this happens. Anyone can do that.

[@skullyman409]

​@@louisuniverse it isnt just editing though either, the whole point of that edit is to foreshadow. Edit's can foreshadow, juxtaposition, etc, but I completely agree with you, this real cinema editing is something you could say movies lack nowadays, as our short attention spans have become even shorter lol.

[@caden-reynolds]

@@vlc-cosplayer I think you're basically on the money. A lot of times the human brain does a fine job of sticking subtext is anything we make anyway. (Though the occasional intelligent editing trick is extremely fascinating to me :) )

[@hbloops]

This video was really nicely edited, showing the concepts of editing in a subtle and intuitive way while explaining it. Fantastic!

[@ThisGuyEdits]

Credit goes to Krishna Sanchez who cut this episode, he's got great instincts

[@OutdoorsEmbrace]

This video makes me proud to be an editor. I'm just a KZbinr right now, but I'd very much LOVE to edit movies. My brain works like this. I love the science/art of editing.

[@alex_montoya]

Such a good channel. Keep up the good work!

[@failedfilmmaker]

Still one of the most underrated fillmaking channels around. Incredibly useful and in depth look into making better films

[@ThisGuyEdits]

Get 3 music tracks free: thisguyedits.com/soundstripe2 Use the code : THISGUYEDITS for 15% off any purchase. Check out the TGE Patreon Membership Rewards including Karen's academic paper on this topic: www.patreon.com/posts/worksheet-paper-31175525 The paper is free for patrons. Editing and Cognition Beyond Continuity by Karen Pearlman in Projections: Journal of Movies and Mind

[@Digital.Done.Right.]

"it's poetry"

[@smackdaddy9802]

I wonder if you realize what you just did for editors everywhere.

[@joshwilliams6517]

free film school for thousands of editors lol.

[@smackdaddy9802]

Josh Williams yep

[@klarnorbert]

Knownledge shouldn't be a privilege. Just think about it, if people before the 20th century had internet: more smart people could have achieved awesome stuff. In the last 20 years, there were more technological breakthroughs than in the last 2000 years.

[@JadeAnthonyReston]

I am more motivated to continue to achieve my true passion in filmmaking. Thank you for inspiring us man!

[@KSE370]

Amazing video. I really appreciate all the effort you put into this. Keep it going! Greetings from Ecuador.

[@inspiredcircles000]

May blessings shine upon you, just as you have blessed others. Have a wonderful Christmas!

[@acadia5898]

i hate when people say "objectively better" almost like they are saying that it's mathmatically better movie but, this shows it in a much better way, in my opinion. through psychology. they are so many people that use the words "perfect" or "objective" so much that they completely lose their meaning. great job!

[@michelc946]

No offence, I really like your content and info, but the "shutterstock" B-roll you use to support the narration is way too much and it becomes destracting and even annoying after a while.

[@UFOandAlienChannel]

Michel Caudron I was thinking the same thing a few months ago, no need to keep cutting to that stuff. Totally annoying.

[@alexandra-lane]

Ditto, where is POC representation? Concepts are golden but mediocre execution.

[@gbricochetj]

This goes way deeper than just edits...woven into the fabric of reality is a composition of ebbs and flows... the dream that we all exist in... that we are all part of... we are all connected in this seemingly simple "tension" and "release" and it's the story that will be told at the end and then beginning of time. Love...

[@WillN2Go1]

It seems most editing 'tricks' were and still are learned by happenstance, or because of problems: the take wasn't long enough, the framing wasn't right for the cut, sight lines were mismatched, etc...

[@al201103]

Leaving this comment not as criticism but as an expression, in case others feel similarly. I didn't feel that I gained very much from this video (and I will probably watch it again, to see if the issue was with me) It seemed like a fair amount of academic posturing without much real definition of the technique involved in a good edit. The Blade Runner "owl" segment seemed like a real stretch, the Notorious example paid no mind to the possibility that conclusions drawn could be entirely wrong and we were just seeing a moment of a cut having flawed focusing. Other than these two, there seemed to be a lack of concrete theories coupled with examples. I believe that the science or mathematics (or whatever) behind editing are difficult to put into words - there is a kinesthetic element. However, this video did nothing to provide me with new information, insight or even food for thought. My personal reaction to it, in this moment. As I said, I'll watch again because I do really value and rate this channel's content.

[@TrailRunningZen]

same here. I'm totally missing what other people are so fascinated by. Besides that, the bladerunner scene relies heavily on the directing of the shot(s)

[@CaseyLugada]

Really loved this episode Sven! Definitely going to need to give it another couple watches as you guys went into quite a bit there😅 but I love the direction this video takes. In terms of being less technical and more theoretical. The empathy and understanding of when and where to cut is often a difficult thing to explain to people when they ask me about it. This does so very nicely!

[@Mantosasto]

Question: how much of it is the editor's decision and how much of the director?

[@brodympat]

Mantosasto Im not 100% sure, but from what I’ve seen I’d say the director has all the control over what scenes get shot, the editor has control over the order and length of those shots. Hope this helps :)

[@AtomicAgePictures]

It depends on how hands on the director is. Sometimes the director is one of the editors. Generally however the editor makes the choices, and the director approves them. If there is something the director doesn't like, they will have the editor make changes.

[@yrussq]

Exactly. They talk about editing while showing director's work. Owl and stuff. You can't edit it if you don't have the shot. The hole scene would have no meaning if the owl wasn't there, if the alikeness wasn't shown. It's direction they are really talking about not editing.

[@tubester358]

@@yrussq The likeness didn't have to be the director's intention. I think the director focuses on the 'content' of the film (i.e. there is an owl that Deckard takes interest in and then a thought-provoking conversation surrounding that owl takes place, with some attention to character behaviour), the likeness isn't really noticeable without that specific edit and the scene would still have value but not as much. Also, note that there are usually multiple camera angles per scene, so it's not always planned to such a degree until the editing.

[@yrussq]

@@tubester358 Are you aware that we are talking about Ridley mfcuking Scott, buddy? The Ridley Scott that has directed Alien and BR? So yeah he's "not intentionally" (tm) a pioneer of a modern cinema. Multiple camera angles.. Are you sure you've been on a set for at least once? It's not a dialog scene with multiple angles - It's a dialog edit of a single shots with precise lighting. And this scene would make no sense if not the words - it would and should be cut out otherwise. "It's not always" but it should be always. It's a director's work to have a solid storyboard with all the scenes, additional shots and dialog lines before shooting anything. You are not a director if you're shooting days of footage and then trying to make a film on the edit. That's why pre-production is the most important part. But now everything is famous for "we'll fix it on post".

[@TechInquiry]

I have always had the ability to take a bunch of other peoples art (music, drawings, videos, graphics, 3d assets, Legos, pictures etc...) And piece them together in a way that others enjoy ironically I only recently found video editing as a viable business choice but it's thanks to channels like this that I truly appreciate the art of editing.

[@Leprutz]

Most important thing for an editor: Trust your guts.

[@FromClaphamJunction]

Couldn't agree more ... all this theory doesn't do too much for me...

[@Leprutz]

@@FromClaphamJunction Even for most editors. What we see here is analzying why something works well. Now, when the editors starts working on his profject he doesn't start thinking about: Time, Space and I forgot the third part... anyhow. If the editor would start thinking about all that theory and what not... He would go himself to the mental ward and never work as an editor again. I am glad you see it that way too. It is okay to talk about it and analyze it, but we should always say, when working do not think about all tat stuff.

[@asofa771]

@@nealbrown5011 Editors do practice these theories, though they don't actually realise they're applying them while editing a movie, since it's mostly a subconscious thing.

[@joshwilliams6517]

Alot of the time for the great editors, your gut, your instincts have theory built in without you knowing it.

[@darkseid856]

@@asofa771 yea but that "subconscious" thing is happening BECAUSE they have practiced and studied all this before . Otherwise that "subconscious" thing wouldn't work.

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Through your videos, I always find new choices on how to edit a scene and tell the story in a better, more moving way. Almost immediately, I try to think of how I can apply these new ideas to the story I'm developing at the moment. Currently, I am working on a short sci-fi film, struggling with how to bring humanity to the story while keeping it engaging. Writing is tough. Editing is where the magic manifests.

[@kickblue22]

can i read your script when it's done?

[@kickblue22]

To answer your question: what is the most important part of editing? The pacing of the cuts. Allowing the eye time to linger and 'process' what we're looking at on screen. (Or maybe making a deliberate choice to NOT allow the eye that time to process)

[@ChestersonJack]

I wonder if the "sitting in the theater" technique will work for me. I have autism, and I'm not good at picking up on the "energy" in a room. At least, not intuitively. I need to see people's faces.

[@jacquesca]

Here before the title and thumbnail change!

[@hapyvenom9067]

I was thinking that aswell 😄

[@ThisGuyEdits]

no need to change it. it's got incredible CTR :)

[@VicInvades]

lol

[@gabrielidusogie9189]

This is really educational. An aspiring filmmaker could learn a thing or two from this. Thank you.

[@asheer5854]

4:38 was like, Holy shit! This is pure magic, a perfect way to subconsciously tell a story. You guys, right there made my Jaw drop. I know realize the vast ocean of possibilities this art form has!

[@losalfajoresok]

I love Blade Runner and never got that owl as a reference. I felt the same.

[@yrussq]

However, it's about director's work in the first place not editor's.

[@waltermaslowski1197]

Amazing! I watched Blade Runner over a dozen times and never picked up on that subtlety. This will help me.

[@AtomicAgePictures]

I think you missed the important movement in the shot of Ingrid Bergman. The important factor is not her movement forward (and stepping out of focus) but rather here eyes moving to the keys. The reason the editor didn't cut before she went out of focus, was that he was waiting for her eyes to lock onto the keys.

[@kravvall4869]

1:25 I do believe it comes down to priming. You have seen the image of "open minivan next to the sea" often enough to know "holiday", You have seen the image of "old man sitting on front porch, staring into the woods" so many times you know he's contemplating life and possibly dying. This is the same with editing, the order of those scenes has been done so many times before, so you know what to expect. Of course good storytellers work with this expectation, but I do in no way believe this is "natural", this has just been hammered into your brain for decades now, and you brain expects exactly that what it knows.

[@kickblue22]

what if the minivan door opens and we see the old man sitting in the woods and he's.....(wait for it)....STARING BACK AT THE MINI VAN????

[@rachaelccamp]

Amazing series. The thousands of decisions an editor makes in crafting the story is the reason the concept of a “director’s cut” makes my blood boil.

[@miked1869]

You’re right of course that editing is a crucial element of the process and can make or break a film. But to me, ‘director’s cut’ suggests something at a more macro level - an edit of a film that perhaps reinstates whole scenes or narratives that had been removed, for example at the behest of the studio. Under those circumstances, an editor does the same job of taking the director’s vision and turning it into gold.

[@deathtrap5556]

The director's cut is never against the editor, it's against the producer. For example, since I work in ads I can give this example that for a fashion ad a company might want to keep more of the shots that focus on the clothes, whereas the director (and editor) would prefer to keep the shots that tell the story in the ad. Sometimes a director's cut also exists because there's lots of good extra shots they couldn't put in because of time constraints.

[@REALWARPOV]

As a filmmaker ..I felt you read way too much into that cut ..way too much ...there could be a lot more conjecture even as simple as the owls movement is caused by rachel's entrance and how Deckard didn't see her at first ...

[@mouwersor]

I see you guys put effort into these video's but I can't get over the voice-over.. It's grating on my eardrums and too slow.

[@UFOandAlienChannel]

Wow talk about over analysing! most of this is just fluff and nonsense, and the first hour of blade runner is boring as hell.

[@ryanb846]

I think the cut in Notorious is much simpler than discussed here... the editor simply waited for the eyes of the actress to shift to the keys. Waiting for those eye moments is essential when editing.

[@Enthralpy]

3:57 Can someone PLEASE lmk what that piano song is?

[@RumiSleem]

what are some ways I could put these theories into practice with my edits?

[@DartagnanMagic]

Great examples of the thinking behind "the poetry" of scene construction in Mamet's "On Directing Film."

[@scottgilesmusic]

Your videos are beautifully put together and are fascinating. They are informative bordering on the revelatory.

[@cosmicpuma1409]

I'm a first year film student and really have fallen in love with editing. This vid is really awesome, thank you for the knowledge and insight.

[@arsh0603]

You guys are killing those expensive film schools. :)

[@lukemilano6332]

Question: Are you thinking about these principles and purposely following them while you're editing, or are you doing what feels right to you in the moment, and because you're so experienced you are accidentally following these rules out of habit?

[@angureyna]

don't sweat it

[@ThisGuyEdits]

I think most editors don't think about these principles and are rarely aware of them. I know I wasn't.

[@joemoya9743]

Most important aspect of editing is creating emotional attachment.

[@xveganx]

Oh man I just wanted to learn how to cut right lil quick, now I'm exploring the world of editing

[@puepole]

If there really was a way of scientifically understanding what makes for good movie editing, practically anyone could be taught to do it. You could just hire someone who edits local news footage to cut your film, but it doesn't work like that. It's an artistic intuition that can't be explained, like trying to figure out what makes for a good director or a good music album. It's a fleeting talent that someone either has or doesn't.

[@wildsurvivalskills]

fantastic video, thanks

[@greencertifiedweb]

This is actually a core topic of the book, "Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance," the idea that everyone knows what quality is and yet, nobody can describe it... We "feel" when things are quality, we "feel" when things are right.

[@teachmetelugu7320]

that makes sense

[@AkashYadav-ut2pg]

I was confused if the guy in thumbnail was will Ferrell or Harrison ford

[@FrankWeaver]

Love this video and channel. Anyone knows what movie is the one from the man in the scuba suit being clapped by people?!

[@hbloops]

I think it's the graduate 1967. Great movie

[@TheOtherSideOfTheStove]

This opened my mind and is making me conscious of what I am watching and why certain stories feel right.

[@WisdomCalls]

Interesting but as a newbie I would have liked more “how to”. Maybe I’m not the target audience.

[@AllThingsFilm1]

This video covers the motivations for why the scenes were edited the way they were. If you don't know what motivates how you edit your scene, knowing the "how to" won't matter. Editing is as much an artistic expression as painting is. This is a great channel to learn both the "how to" and the why.

[@NightmareCourtPictures]

Do yourself a big favor and edit music videos as a sort of practice or exercise. Step 1) At first you might be editing directly on the beat of the music...like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4a9gnaupryWa68 all beginners do this... and that's okay. It's not that you should avoid cutting on the beat...but try not to ONLY cut on the beat for everything because this is just the start of what is actually possible. Here is an example where cutting on the beat actually works pretty good. Joji - Medicine kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpiWZp1_rNSKmbM SmarterChild - LA Lights kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKCUnX6ljN2bitk Step 2) Then you'll start noticing that you can sync up bodily motion with rhythms in the music...that's the next step. I-Robot Trailer - Inception Style kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZnSoKaFqLKWitk Notice in this example, the editing is cut to the beat, but some of the bodily motion, or fluidity of motion in the shots sync with the music as well, such as when the robot hits the ground at 1:19 and when Will Smith opens his mouth to yell at 1:22, it syncs with the eruption of the horn. These aren't cuts, but rather fluidity or bodily syncs that match with the music. Step 3) Then you can figure out how to counter these rhythms with editing in cuts. similar to the example in Blade Runner with the Owl and Deckard, you can juxtapose the music with cuts or ques that aren't necessarily in sync, but are in sync emotionally at that point in the music. It's really hard to find good examples of music videos that can do this but is at least one video that use this technique, and i would consider this video VERY good in terms of editing/cinematography because they embody the feeling of what the video is supposed to convey Higher Brothers - Swimming Pools kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIPUZY2Zba1pmMk Notice in this video, there are very minimal cuts. A few cuts are on the beat, but most trail off of the beat and linger on the subject, which is the signature editing feature of this video. Notice also how this video uses techniques from all of the above...using bodily motion and fluidity of camera motion to sync with the music, or enter and exit into the next cut. Also cutting off beat, juxtapose the music with the lingering effect that it's after (Notice at 2:57 they cut BEFORE the kick drops). Also notice that unlike alot of other music videos, this one doesn't rely on using the lip sync of the musical artist in order to edit the video. All video's I've linked in this comment don't feature an artist that is using lip sync (which usually shapes how a video is cut) I tried looking for another example for step 3, but it was taking too much of my time...again good edited video's are very hard to find. Conclusion: As an exercise, just try and make music video's and/or cut trailers. Hiphop music is very good at shaping your skills on this. Also while you are watching music video's, try and pay attention to WHEN the cut's happen in the video...is it on the beat or Is it off beat? Why is it cut at this particular place...Is it because of body motion or Camera motion? You can also show me a music video and i can tell you, or analyze it for you to give you an idea on how i would think about it. Cheers,

[@TeHzoAr]

ironically the editing on this is really bad

[@Andrelas11]

Editors refine and sometimes control entirely the pace and emotional cadence of a scene by utilizing WHEN they make a cut and WHERE they choose to cut to. ALOT of this can be very closely tied to the director & DP as well. All three work together to give us very specific choices. A tight shot that is very awkward gives the same type of "body feeling" mentioned in this video but that's not the editor doing that. Cutting to that shot at a specific moment to emphasis that feeling however is something the editor could do there. I also don't really think an editor controls where our eyes go in a scene. Sure they can disrupt our "look points" by making jarring cuts, but they can't really direct you to look somewhere without altering how the shot was captured (AKA re-framing). I think adding special terms (like kinesthetic imagination) is nice for trying to quantify talents or moments but it makes things a little more complicated than they are. Which this video is designed to do since its "According to Science". Most good editors simply start out with feelings, gut feelings. Those feelings are like a strange, uncontrolled power that as you use them, they become controllable so you can actually perform edits with purpose rather than just relying on your gut feeling.

[@BillySmith]

Karma is the truth of science, and of us. The goal of sub-atomic particles is to plant the seeds of complexity rather than pain. Consciousness consists of a resonance cascade of quantum energy. “Quantum” means a refining of the primordial.

[@ArnoldVeeman]

8:06 but to me it looks like someone else is in the room, creeping towards the keys.

[@quite1enough]

it is also good to go beyond hollywood movies with this analysis, such as Bergman, Bresson, Muzoguchi, Ozu etc, and generally on theory of cinéma d'auteur (politique des auteurs); and also there's two great books by Robert Bresoon - "Notes on the Cinematographer" and "Bresson on Bresson"

[@alexanderSnilsson]

It makes me want to make a movie. ASAP.

[@35mmMovieTrailersScans]

Extrapolating Decker is artificial just because of a normal reaction by 2 entities to someone entering is pure delusion. The editor just wanted to mark that someone is approaching, the rest is bs.

[@ariana165]

HAPPY BLADE RUNNER MONTH!

[@handdrawnbink]

I have to add that all of the information in this video is STRICTLY at the mercy of Cinematography, Direction, staging and blocking. If the footage isn't flowing it makes it harder in varying degrees for the Editor to 'make it flow' in a way that's been discussed here - hence the necessity for re-shoots in certain instances. This is also why the 1 page of script = 1 minute of runtime rule is complete nonsense; a sentence in a script may be interpreted by the Director and Cinematographer as a two-minute long shot, and the Editor may equally use the footage at their disposal to lengthen or shorten shots based on the 'flow' described in this video. Love this channel!

[@berndwarnders]

A great editor simply learned the language of film and plays with its grammar while always taking our biological make-up into account (and how it relates to media - an ecological perspective, so to say). Also, I wouldn't read to much into eye-tracking studies when it comes to cognition.

[@JayGeeWhyWhy]

Why do I have a hunch that the mid-video plugging for the sponsor was part of the plan as well because the editor of this video understands what and when exactly would be the most likely moment to begin the plug and still be able to retain our attention given to the advertisement lol??? edit-ception?

[@edwardhunt6863]

honestly, this video series is too good for a free site

[@adamdavidsoddities8573]

Wow splitting the hair just a bit huh? Well I think I'll just stick to being intuitive. If I try to get all scientific with my creativity it will just complicate things.

[@rae_vandaloo]

Exactly

[@AndrewMcMullen]

Great info however dont you think too many disruptive ads completely break the continuity of the editing and make it hard for viewers to retain the message or lessons in this or any other videos which are over stuffed with ads

[@BK42Cycles]

Very educative.. I love the lesson ;)

[@williepadin]

Great video. An edit feels right when pacing, content and visuals continues telling the story in a meaningful way. In other words it adds to what you have already seen. Adding is good 👍 Not adding a thing and breaking the pace 👎

[@deborahnproductions5974]

thank you for this great video ! i want to say that me for me, editing is postly time. longer we let the frame until the perfect moment, stronger the emotion will be

[@StevanChase]

Is the editor with the Directors when filming or are they there during storyboard stages? What if some of those clips weren’t available or wasn’t captured that perfectly. Do they do some postproduction fx to align it better. Just curious

[@louiscox]

Both yes and no. It depends on who's shooting and what their methodology is. Some directors have editors they consistently collaborate with, who know their style. Others are hired after the fact to make sense of it. I don't know think most editors are involved in pre-production, and that's likely just a matter of scheduling. A movie takes years to produce, and it's unrealistic to expect a high demand expert editor to be available for the entire process, if they are being hired to edit other projects. In terms of postproduction FX to align shots better... David Fincher re-frames most of his shots in post production, and if you are filming a 2.35:1 wide aspect ratio, but you are filming it with a large sensor digital camera, you capture image above and below the black letterboxing, thus allowing you to easily reframe the shot up and down... In the case of someone like Fincher, they shoot high-res 6K which allows them to crop and zoom, without losing detail, since the end product is going to be released in either 4K or 2K (standard HD) as most media is presented in normal HD, and anything on TV is going to be a taller 1.78:1 aspect ratio (unless it's something on netflix, or something shot purposefully with a "cinematic" aspect ratio)

[@andreionisie168]

The most important thing that makes an edit feel right? Minimum number of shots that enable the audience to understand where the scene is going without being able to anticipate it. For example, House of Cards (Spoiler Alert), when we think Doug has given up on killing Rachel only to cut to the final scene of him burying her. Hits you like a ton of bricks. (edit-spelling)

[@StayFractalesque]

this is a really good one, and the bar is already high.. thanks for all the knowledge

[@gartenstuhl2396]

I don't know anything about editing, but I know when I dislike it. I am talking about cutting a scene in particular. And the movie that really annoyed me with its way of cutting scenes was Star Wars VII. Every god damn two seconds they cut. And yes, I am big fan of long shots.

[@LuciaRodriguez-kq4pw]

Por qué el título está en español y el video en inglés?

[@duncan-rmi]

yes, marvellous editing. but you talk about the process as though all that footage ended up on the steenbeck by magic, when the truth is that there were storyboards, a director & a cinematographer, & that many of those creative decisions were made in someone's head weeks- months, maybe. before the editor finessed *what was already there*. you can't fix it in post if it wasn't shot.

[@elasticharmony]

I got that book.💯, (Bergman) also the focus problem brings to your mind focusing which is really is doing not moving.

[@erickanyiri3463]

I've learnt so much from this video than i thought possible. Hopefully ill be able to implement the styles to my KZbin channel videos

[@frijolespepepapa9464]

Amazing video, I will keep these in mind when working on stuff! Also, the way you can edit films and videos remind me of the use of panels in comics. The way you use their sizes, placement, and distances from each other help to appeal the reader's way of taking the story in.

[@chiquicat1]

Blade Runner is probably the best example of a bad cut. If you watch anything else than the final cut it’s just a terribly edited movie which makes little sense.

[@SuperShiba]

I am glad I found this channel and i enjoyed most of the videos so far. Although most of the concept would be hard to apply for my dog channel but you never know😆

[@michaelruebusch2275]

All of this seems pretty obvious. You edit to for pace, to create emotion, to create feelings, and the viewers eyes typically will follow the action on screen. I never understood why people feel a need to complicate this with fancy words like kinesthetic empathy and movement phrase.

[@Skiltonius]

There is no such thing as (universally) right, there is only right for the moment, right for the idea, or right for you. (Even then it's not really right - like right is not a universal constant - in a thousand years right now and right then will be so different as to bring unfathomable variation in any argument about what an idea should even translate as I think.

[@samwallaceart288]

This talk feels vacuous. The type of claims that can’t really help you before the fact, nor can it be proven/unproven. Did a good job making ya’ll sound smart but I didn’t really learn a whole lot in terms of definable advice for actual use.

[@davidlean1060]

You'll be delighted to know your comment was equally vacuous, so maybe you took in more than you first realized?!

[@samwallaceart288]

Trying-Hard Tobeashepherd - well yeah, it’s a simple comment. They’re the ones making a whole-on video so a bit more substance is expected. Especially considering that This Guy normally has more direct and applicable advice in his other videos, whereas here it’s vague abstraction that could be interpreted to mean anything.

[@rossawilson01]

@@samwallaceart288 You're not wrong. The sentiment is nice but it's a lot of waxing lyrical and post hock rationalisation. You can't really apply anything from this to an actual edit. You have to edit and engage your instinct and learn by doing. But there's a need for content for channels and I feel a lot of people feel like they're doing when really they're being entertained. At the end of the day poetry is made banal by explanation and no academic ever became a great poet by trying to 'learn' the secret sauce of poetry. Same goes for editing. But it can be fun to explain and get excited by explanations, but best not to take it too serious and an outright mistake to think you can use ideas like this as a tool.

[@bobbyscar8049]

They don't really defend their claims, but these claims aren't made to be true statements about the world, they're made to be useful in editing (at least in the context of this video). It's a tool, not a dissertation. If it doesn't work, don't use it. If it does, dont worry about it

[@rossawilson01]

@@bobbyscar8049 That's my point, they're not tools. He even admits himself he doesn't think about these things when editing or before nor does anyone else he knows. It's entertainment, waxing lyrical.

[@djmaggot5610]

I wonder when he was mapping out for yours eyes when they're watching the movie was that their first time seeing the movie or was it their fifth time I wonder if that would affect the results of the test ? Hopefully this makes sense since I use a speech-to-text it might not

[@SergeiZinevich]

In the scene with the owl, we see the owl defiantly and arrogantly turned away from Detective Rick Deckard. She watched Deckard first. Then Deckard noticed it. The owl turned away. Deckard turned away from the owl. Everything is fine. (В сцене с совой мы видим, как сова демонстративно и высокомерно отвернулась от детектива Рика Декарда. Сначала она наблюдала за Декардом. Потом это заметил Декард. Сова отвернулась. Декард отвернулся от совы. Всё прекрасно).

[@idanil016]

Major overthinking in Blade Runner. The owl and Deckard watched in the same direction because they heard Rachel coming

[@MarkinChina]

what came first the Owl Decard Rachael or Decard Owl Racheal, was it filmed intentionally or is the editore only using what he is given.. the eye-tracking is used by advertisers to see what you look at first when entering a shop etc..

[@didijy8007]

The more knowledge there is about how films effect the human mind, body and spirit the more you realize its an ultimate weapon or tool for healing all of humanity or completely destroying them from the inside out and manifesting illness, fear, ignorance, violence and capitalism down to the gene pool. The entertainment industry has one of the greatest powers and that is the power to make believe until the viewer believes

[@TheRealestIdealist]

This is some very Advanced tips but I love it

[@flipnap2112]

someone once told me, you can learn all the tricks of the trade, but unless you know the trade.. theyre only tricks.. and once someone figures out your magic trick.. it looks silly. the truth is.. we are born an animator, a composer, a dancer, a photographer, a songwriter, a poet, a musician, a writer, or a lover and a sinner.. we see these as different arts, or faults.. but the truth is all these things have one thing in common.. they are all exactly the same thing..

[@xChikyx]

I'm not an editor, but I was wondering... do you think it's possible to apply this knowledge to a novel?

[@DawoodMurad]

what ab absolute beautiful video. thank you so much

[@SamJay7]

You made me fall in love with learning back again. I'm learning movie editing, I don't know if would I ever edit a damn movie but I'm f*ind learning it.

[@taniadiego]

If anyone wants to dive deeper into these theories you can look for these concepts: affect theory, embodied perception, haptic perception or haptic visuality, mirror neurons or neuroaesthetics.

[@torrace12]

its not universal knowledge applicable in every sitation it depends on the maturity wisdom knowledge experience and so on that the viewers have

[@bhonandrei3183]

if i became jury for an oscar, i would not place myself into editing category. it confuse me too much.

[@michaelhull1813]

Funny that I just knew the owl cut was bad. and then... Next level content @thisguyedits