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0:00 Intro
2:07 Lesson 1: Yes, and...
3:17 L2: Setup is primary.
5:37 L3: Plot over jokes
8:22 L4: Faster is funnier.
11:28 L5: Find the button.
13:07 L6: Trim the fat.
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15:42 L7: Cut wide.
17:05 L8: Feature every frame.
18:24 L9: Keep it real.
19:50 L10: Be a filmmaker who edits.
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[@georgemaranville3305]

Plus fart noises and sped up footage.

[@ianlynn3071]

I agree 💯 That helps a lot

[@itslachy4582]

Also a short audio clip saying "bruh"

[@MrBiswas123]

Instagram comedy *

[@LeslieDugger]

Add yakity sax

[@the9file]

Chinese reality show sound effects

[@ryansulak]

This is a great video and I agree, but it’s definitely for a specific type of comedy. There is a lot of dry comedies that thrive in longer takes and letting things breathe. My first thought is “a pigeon sat on a branch contemplating its own existence”, that sort of tone

[@Lismakingmovie]

I think Joel Haver's comedy is the perfect example of comedy that breaks almost all of these "rules."

[@niels1142]

@@Lismakingmovie Yes exactly what I thought! But Joel does use some of these tips like using wide shots and ending with a punchline as not to "fizzle" out.

[@cluckendip]

yeah this is very mainstream american humour which is fine, but you can do sooo much with humour

[@fl1490]

Rules are meant to be broken, but you still have to learn and master them first before breaking them

[@Lismakingmovie]

@@fl1490 ehhh to some extent I agree, but a lot of rules are arbitrary. That's why so called outsider art is a thing, because great art quite often comes from those who have no understanding of the "rules."

[@BetweenTheLyons]

Fun fact, the first time Steven Tyler saw Spinal Tap, he thought it was a straight up documentary and didn't realize it was a parody. The "These go to 11" joke became so popular that many amplifier brands started to implement 11 into their volumes just to increase sales, although they didn't actually make the amplifiers any louder. Just another example of good parody becoming reality.

[@Peron1-MC]

XD. i have a peavey vypyr the volume goes to 13 XD

[@verdatum]

Now, to be fair, I was very young the first time I saw the film. And I had no introduction to it whatsoever. But yeah, I had absolutely no idea that it was a mockumentary. I thought they were a legit, highly overrated band. Everyone talks about the "goes to eleven" scene, but if you ask me, the very best bit is when they go to Graceland, and they try and completely fail to improvise a harmony on Heartbreak Hotel.

[@BetweenTheLyons]

@@verdatum I absolutely love that scene, lol. And yeah that's exactly the reason why I brought up the "these go to 11" thing, it's just way more widely known.

[@WillN2Go1]

Wait. Steven Tyler is a real person??

[@TheOtherBradBird]

@@verdatum for me it is the band losing top billing to a puppet show.

[@TheFreshSoundsFlorida]

Glad to see you back. I'm very impressed and grateful for the caliber of guests you've brought on to the show to teach us about editing.

[@WhySteve]

being a film maker who edits, not an editor who cuts films is what got me paying gigs, and now I have a cool quote to explain it, thanks! This was great!

[@SOSOLRAK]

How?

[@WhySteve]

@@SOSOLRAK What I mean is that a lot of people I edit for can't edit themselves. They only shoot, because they aren't "film makers who shoot" they're "camera operators that shoot films". So because my interest lies in the "story" and not just slapping footage together, I can build a solid edit. Because I'm not just an editor, my end goal is not just to edit footage for people, my goal is to be a film maker.

[@SOSOLRAK]

@@WhySteve I meant how does one get started to eventually getting paid for it

[@WhySteve]

Oh, honestly, I am still figuring that one out. All my clients are from word of mouth (mostly friends that send the crappy clients they don't want to me) And I'm in South Africa so gear is really expensive and jobs pay very little. On a single job the most I can make is like R3000 which is equivalent to $180. So I pay myself a minimum wage salary which works out at R350 ($20) a day. So I'm still growing and learning how to land bigger clients and make a proper living from film making.

[@LaurenKreiser]

Nice to hear someone mentioning that you need to practice to get better at editing. Jeez, each of these points are so specific and actionable, will be coming back to this. Awesome video!

[@ThisGuyEdits]

Glad it was helpful!

[@cl_audio_90]

I'm not a editor but enjoyed every second of this video. So much insights and wisdom here! thank you

[@JesstyEissej]

Really fascinating interview! I'd love to see a similar interview with a different style of comedy editor to compare and contrast the tips. Eg. British comedy tends to have a different feel to American comedy, so I'm wondering how much of that is in the editing and whether the rules are significantly different. In particular, I suspect 'faster is funnier' would be a big point of contention

[@ThisGuyEdits]

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[@kevinandrewsphoto]

It’s been a while since I watched a movie essay I didn’t want to end. So many terrible channels out there diluted the genre. This was amazing. First time finding your channel. Subscribed for sure

[@rogernygard6930]

The video turned out great. Nice work, Sven. YOU are a master editor.

[@edwardchester1]

That line about rewatching stuff at screenings being like going to disneyland hits home. There's something about watching a final render of a video or watching a video once it's uploaded to youtube that just puts a mental distance between you and the material. In the edit you're still watching in pieces but after the fact you're watching whole.

[@samueltriplett]

Good to see you! Hope everything's been going well for you.

[@ThisGuyEdits]

Glad to be back. Things are good, just takes a long time to make videos these days. It's hard to keep it simple :)

[@jacobmossmedia8794]

Roger is a class act. One of the most enthusiastic, friendly people I've ever talked to. He's happy to share his experience and wisdom all with a humble smile on his face.

[@filmmakeranto]

I appreciate the content and effort you put in making these. I enjoy watching them as there is so much to learn from them. They are very educational.. in this video I found the video clips were particularly distracting and often my perception of audio (narration/vo) was lost. No idea why or it's just my ADD😂 acting up.

[@TomWhoASMR]

This was great!! I need to watch this again, so much great insight into making comedy. Please do more on comedy editing.

[@bobbihansel]

This was FANTASTIC! Thank you for this incredible insight, we're so lucky to have access to this content.

[@fran_galli]

great content, there's so much work searching examples of what you are talking and Roger super generous providing examples of different versions is super interesting. Cheers

[@SHNASTTV]

A lot of this advice is what I instinctually knew and advised my editor to make quicker cuts on skits. But then there's shows like Louie that almost threw out that notion and went for long and slow with a really funny pay off. Whether the editor goes for long or short cuts really has to mesh with the director and writers vision. Louie had a vision. Curb has a vision. Tim and Eric awesome show great job had a vision. All different styles. But this is definitely good advice in general. Esp. Since Curb is my favorite show. However Larry Sanders was my favorite show back in the day, and that one went for longer cuts.

[@devinalexander7415]

Great point and three of my favorites. Fast editing is great for comedy but I agree that sometimes letting a moment linger can be the funniest part of a show. Louie had a scene where a homeless man was bathing himself in the subway and it went on so long that it got funnier and funnier. It's hard to really deny that some scenes that require awkward tension would be less funny if it had quicker cuts.

[@JeseeWalker]

This is the type of video you revisit a hundred times to fully take in. Masterful.

[@RawHeadRay]

Tragedy is a close up, Comedy is a long shot. ( i always felt that meant its easier to do tragedy than it is to do comedy )

[@WeirdCast]

This Is freaking GOLD Overtime & practice I became aware of all of these rules! They Work. The one I'm still struggling with though, are wider shots, to show all the body language & interaction, but that's because close ups are much easier when you have little to no crew.

[@Sam-lm8gi]

Thank you, this was very insightful!… Some of my favorite comedy editing is in the films of Mel Brooks, Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles, and I just saw on IMDB that the editor of both (John C. Howard) also cut Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, which I still have not seen, but definitely will now!

[@luiscasanova1418]

Hey dude, great video! Also, thanks for putting captions in spanish. Though i understand english, it is cool to see videos with subtitles and not miss any word that i might not understand because i'm not a native english speaker. Thanks for the additional effort on this!!

[@WithinDeathLies]

This video is so well thought out and extremely interesting. Learned a lot.

[@adityachandiok7208]

This was really nice! Thank you for making this. Excited to read the book too!

[@hensbread]

this was awesome, thank you for making it. I love the tip to make the punchline wide to capture the reaction to the joke.

[@verdatum]

This is a simply fantastic video. It's a bit more abstract than I personally would have liked, but I can tell that this as intentional. I look forward to checking out that book. It sounds like a treasure trove of hints on editing.

[@JonnyBarrett]

Your channel is incredible. I ADORE your content. So talented.

[@thomasleftheris521]

thanks god you are back ! please never stop teaching us as long makes you happy. you can't imagine how important have you been for me till now. PEACE, LOVE & EDIT

[@PogieJoe]

Love this! Editing has taken on a new life when it comes to comedy on platforms like TikTok too.

[@plootyluvsturtle9843]

how does this only have 300k views this deserves way more. this is so good

[@husbandrew]

The scariest thing for me, when I edit, is I see the joke and know what it is but I end up replaying it so much that I start appreciating it in different ways. Kind of like eating fresh pizza but then it's a dayold and it's still great but for different reasons yet it's still pizza. How do you make sure your joke is still fresh after editing it for hours.

[@nicolasfl1864]

While I am not an editor, but an architect, I find these ways of thinking valuable. Thanks for sharing!

[@RealRidez]

So glad to have you back creating content 🙂

[@hurlicane56]

Wow, I have seen few videos with this much amazing advice. Incredible work, thank you! :)

[@biksw]

Such a useful episode, great guest Sven

[@Shotbylawz]

“It’s more like an analysis that I know what the equation is for funny” 11:13 FACTSSSSS !!!!!!

[@GregorPQ]

Great episode, worth the wait.

[@EddieLensweiger]

finally a new video! luuuurve your channel dude, very inspiring stuff

[@rubberface1424]

Brilliant interview, and very comprehensive steps. A great example of Drama as close-up and Comedy as long-shot I think would be the editing of Franco Fraticelli, frequent collaborator of Lina Wertmüller. Much recommended.

[@josevelasco216]

amazing!! thanks! this explains so much that I was kind of wondering about...

[@ERTHL]

Thanks for the bonus lesson - always check if your fingers (and nails) are clean for your close ups!

[@BadTimeBabble]

Great video. Really interesting insight into an editor/film maker of comedy. Lots of tips to use going forward with my editing.

[@kyleheilig255]

Great Interview. Can't wait to try the comedy module in the course.

[@ThisGuyEdits]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@stu9000]

So much gold in this video! Thank you

[@lucascassemiro]

This is amazing content. Thank you so much for making it.

[@Dewgs.]

Love your stuff man! Hope life is good!

[@JoaoSilva22222]

This Guy took hours to edit this precious lesson, my best respects to him.

[@TheJPinder]

it's like the algo knew I was cutting my first feature comedy. amazing help.

[@JosephD]

This was fantastic. Also just bought his book. Thank you.

[@derAtze]

I am so happy to hear that it takes him several weeks to cut an episode. I had to do some 20 min long interview/gameshow ad for a political party and died, as i had to do like 3-5 per week, with little sleep and no private life at all

[@BillZebubproductions]

I just bought a copy from amazon. Thanks for showcasing this.

[@GratuityMedia]

As always really great content, thank you!

[@narrativethreads_official]

Great stuff, as always!

[@ThisGuyEdits]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@williampace4167]

Awesome -- pure GOLD!

[@borisbadinoff1291]

9:42 The principle "faster is funnier" and its origins are probably to be found in slap stick comedy, which themselves originate from cabaret shows. Watch any scenes of Abbott & Costello or any conversation involving Groucho Marx to see it. As these comedians all started in theaters, they can do it in a straight continuous face shot. No editing required. They master the pace.

[@ShaneBaker]

Thank you! Fascinating.

[@cjmacq-vg8um]

in "his girl friday" howard hawks instructed the actors (cary grant, rosiland russell) to talk as quickly as they could. you can see this effect in this movie as well as "one, two, three." for the marx bros comeback film "a night at the opera" Irving Thalberg suggested the bros slow the comedy dialogue down. which they did and that film became their highest grossing film. thalberg's reasoning was putting space between the jokes allowed the audience to hear all the jokes. when before the jokes were so rapid fire the audience's laughter would drown out many jokes.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

when i was growing up, i was lucky that my next door neighbour was film editor supremo eric boyd perkins. he worked on the wicker man, julias cesar, the prisoner, for your eyes only & many others. he did have many fascinating stories of working at pinewood studios & in hollywood too. he would talk about the power of the edit, picking the best takes, controlling the speed of the story telling etc.

[@Storbang]

Glad I saw this, though I’m not quite sure I want re-edit all my material to see if what I learned makes it funnier 🥴

[@TheFeelButton]

Great set of rules to enhance the comedy!

[@tomsouzas]

Amazing! Thanks for the video!

[@lyndonbaptiste]

I really enjoyed this. Thank you.

[@Timyeahhh]

I’m a KZbin editor and I’ve been using epidemic sound for 7 years. It’s the best place to find and search for music and updated frequently. 1000% recommend

[@yup8865]

The inspirational background music picking up at 5:20 makes me laugh.

[@markisgallashaw]

Thank you so much!

[@Keaks_]

Using a coaster at Julia Louis-Dreyfus house @ 2:03 Smart move.

[@xilanceylan]

Crazy good video

[@forestforthetrees7173]

Neat video, but what I'm REALLY here for is Epidemic Sound at 14:20! Mama mia, what a treat!

[@MrMustachieo]

This would be so much fun to do/help out with.... I vibe with what Roger is saying,

[@keithfissel1884]

The bathroom (nosebleed) scene in veep was pure gold. I laughed so hard I got dizzy.

[@cameron494]

Pure gold.

[@BH-98]

Completely agree with lesson 3

[@kangsterizer]

im not an editor at all, im just fascinated by all the details you give in your videos about editing. I once sat next to a well known, old actor in a plane and saw them watch some "new" movies on the plane video system. They would pause and make notes. I thought they'd just write down some things they thought were good or finding actors to make movies with later. But now I get that they were just still learning how to edit, despite being an actor.

[@ThisGuyEdits]

Interesting Who was the actor?

[@seppevandenbroeck]

Very interesting video ! well made too, thanks!

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

I've learned more. My favorite channel to visit for tips and ideas tHanks

[@chetneetchouhan]

Glad you came back. :)

[@ThisGuyEdits]

Me too!

[@Soupcan13]

Friggin incredible video extremely fun to watch and hyper informative. Very well done. “How do you know prayers don’t work?” Killed me 😂

[@ngoss22100]

love this content!

[@KMHill]

Welcome back!

[@thesecurityguard.]

Thank you so much.

[@dhruvgarg9743]

15:47 you can't use epidemic sound tracks or SFX after the your subscription end . If you use you got copyright claim .

[@antoniodelatorre3121]

Friggin gold!

[@zapazap]

Funny pauses: Archer thinking on how more specifically to torture Wodehouse.

[@andyony2]

I just wanna take a minute to thank you for all your work, your videos, which inspire me again and again. Especially because your style is so much different to many of other "tutorial videos" I watched through the years. I can feel it in every video of yours, that you are an excellent, professional and - most important - absoulte passionate filmmaker and editor!! For me I learn from your videos by letting me get inspired! Thank you ❤️❤️ ---- (And now I am at the end of the video) Its great to see "Community" at the end, because for me its one of the most funniest series I have ever watched!!!! What a masterpiece :)

[@lacaraja]

You are back!

[@ThisGuyEdits]

Never really left. But yeah it's nice to get a new video out. :)

[@MoliminousTheater]

I want something as professionally done as this but about ytps lol

[@zekysantangelop]

This video was amazing... I have no other words...

[@MoneyOdesanya]

This guy is genius. Thank you.

[@arturodelarosa4394]

This explains so much.

[@LightspeedTutorials]

This is a good topic to cover. And maybe that's, me expecting something else, other than structured, in depth and articulated video. But this kind of dragged on it felt unnecessary lengthy, to be effectively digested. I'd like to see the tempo of PeterMcKinnon or Charisma on Demand.

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

This is liquid inspiration

[@BagelMachine]

The shower scene in As Good as it gets is a great exception to the JPM rule

[@MikeWittig]

A great video. Thank you.

[@brandonchristensen2990]

Great video!

[@santifante]

Great episode, loved it! Is there a chance for us to have the list of movies to watch he mentions ?

[@rogernygard6930]

Here's a list of many that I recommend in the book: Where Eagles Dare (1968), The Birds (1963),Suckers (2001), Six Days in Roswell (2000), Jeremiah Johnson (1972), The Wild Bunch (1969), Bringing up Baby (1938), The Pink Panther Strikes Again (1976), His Girl Friday (1940), It’s a Mad,Mad,Mad,MadWorld (1963), They Call Me Trinity (1970), What’s Up, Doc? (1972), This Is Spinal Tap (1984), or Roger and Me (1989), The Philadelphia Story (1940), Sergeant York (1941), Unfaithfully Yours (1948), Seven Samurai (1954), Once Upon a Time in the West (1968), Phantasm (1979), Terms of Endearment (1983), Evil Dead II (1987), A Chinese Ghost Story (1987), Raising Arizona (1987), The Killer (1989), Delicatessen (1991), Strictly Ballroom (1992), or Fresh (1994), Once Upon aTime in the West (1968), Lifeboat (1944), Trekkies (1999)

[@cl_audio_90]

@@rogernygard6930 Thank you so much for this

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

Good to see you! ....Well it will be...I'm still letting the commercials play through. Okay...shhhh, the show is starting.

[@random07]

Could we just take a second to appreciate the existence of a clip were Will Smith getting freaked out by woman wearing a wig?

[@friedmule5403]

I have edited film documentaries, news, radio and all sorts of things, but if there is one thing I'll never be able to, is to edit anything funny, this is simply an art form that is way too hard, it takes not only skills but talent and the ability to "invent" a joke on the spot!