Steve Jobs: The Fresh Air Interview (1996) | Fresh Air

[@serialMichael07]

17:08 - “One of the things I always tried to coach myself on was not being afraid to fail. When you have something that doesn’t work out a lot of times people’s reaction is to get very protective about ever wanting to fall on their face again and I think that’s a big mistake, because you never achieve what you want without falling on your face a few times in the process of getting there… So.. I’ve tried to not be afraid to fail and matter fact I failed quite a bit since leaving Apple” GOLD

[@accordchiang7880]

Thanks a lot for the timestamp and transcript!

[@AndrewDasilvaPLT]

Dude was thinking Post-PC in 1996.

[@Myke664]

This is why I take them seriously when I listen to the newest generation of tech leaders talk about the future.

[@DrFastFury]

@@Myke664 it sounds like you stay up to date on current tech leaders. Which three are the most similar to Jobs in your opinion?

[@Myke664]

@@DrFastFury I’d recommend listening to Mo Gawdat’s book, Scary Smart. Emad Mostaq has some compelling interviews as well. I recommend reading Max Tegmark’s Life 3.0 and maybe look into Peter Diamandis as well.

[@vicheakeng6894]

Patented 1996

[@Juan_deep]

@@Myke664yo can you answer dude question below you please

[@Gabriel-iq6ug]

Interviewer is so great

[@tvm73827]

Oh my God! This is so awesome!! The clarity of thought that Jobs has is astounding. He was so right about most of the things that happened way after he gave this interview. Terry Gross, I should add, is one of the best interviewers I’ve ever heard.

[@sorcererstone3303]

This interview is a gem. Gives us a glimpse to the amazing inner thinking & thought processes of Steve Jobs. BTW, this interview was done in 1996 by the equally amazing interviewer Terry Gross, Steve Jobs return to Apple in the same year too - judging by the content of this interview. This interview was made before Steve returned to Apple. That explained why he refrained to critique too much about Apple. Hats off to Steve Jobs - a true giant.

[@shipcommanderlol6577]

Quality of the audio is so good.

[@QuietmindYoga]

NPR really perfected the radio voice.

[@KendallLambert-j7r]

10/10 interview. Hooray for NPR!. 1996....when NPR was enjoyable to listen to..

[@soleaux]

❕❕❕

[@LeeJohnston-o5w]

I'm always humbled listening to, Steve Jobs. He is pure genius.

[@TheStevenWhiting]

He was never a pure genius. WebObjects went nowhere. He had all the talk but certainly wasn't a genius.

[@Slaxsvo]

@@TheStevenWhiting He built the world's most valuable company. Think that's a fluke? What have you done with your life?

[@mr.daniish]

"We were two teenagers who couldn't afford a computer, so we decided to build one" - Legend 🙌

[@pipp33]

What an excellent time capsule. So much you can say about his insights at this time, and to think this was just months before Apple bought NeXT and Steve returned to the helm and saved Apple from near extinction. Edit: Right after I typed this Jobs says, in response to do you think Apple is going to fail, “I think with the appropriate leadership that’s not going to happen…but we’ll have to see.” Amazing.

[@boo5274]

As someone who develops dynamic websites, This is incredibly interesting to listen to. Dynamic web is still the industry standard to this day, with people trying to make it more and more dynamic.

[@TinLeadHammer]

It is not like Jobs invented CGI.

[@neanda]

this is crazy he was speaking about the web like this in '96. i had just left school and my last pc till then was an Amiga. omg, he's talking about the web like this when i was still going to libraries. it's crazy to think that all this was happening and i was too young (in my mind) to see what was happening

[@nattaphonj956]

whoa. Steve is so ahead of the time

[@neanda]

this is amazing, thank you for uploading this 🙏 btw, the interviewer is very good - she understands the big picture of what SJ is talking about so, because of that, gets him to explain more things so that we can all know. that's how an interview should be. this was an amazing interview, by both people, just a relaxed conversation with no one trying to big themselves up. genuine laughter is so nice to hear 💯❤ (talking about Terry, nice laugh)

[@4ourty5ive]

Terry was great on fresh air. A great host to each guest

[@invaderg3332]

He was so excited about the web. I became nonchalant about the web starting at 2013. I wonder how excited he'd been about AI, chatgpt, midjourney, and others. My mother was very inquisitive about the internet when I was a teen, and it was very magical how curious she was, like at age 50 or whatever she was , and still looking at the internet with intense curiosity.

[@manamsetty2664]

He would have made these so much awesome 😎 he makes me work hard, just an awesome guy I wonder how can I get his type of clarity and mindset

[@ՊետրոսԲադալյան326]

Steve Jobs is forever!

[@avenueofabundance]

Thanks so much for posting! Wishing everyone that reads this abundant and prosperous day. YOU ARE ABUNDANT

[@soonhauchua2296]

Terry, the interviewer, was so good at asking questions. Several of what Steve talked about, including post-PCs and how Apple worked, were very interestingly being discussed again in the D8 conference back in 2010. I see this interview as a Part 1 for that, 14 years apart. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2bJaZWnjr6qptU

[@craigmuranaka8016]

Sure is great to hear his voice and hear his thoughts. Outside of the Mac all his great ideas and work were still ahead of him at the time of this interview. I wish he would have had more time to give us his gifts ❤🙏🙏🙏

[@caffeinum]

I was 1 years old at that time. I wish I could have lived through that time and be a builder there

[@KoushikVaraghur]

Fantastic interview. The lady who interviewed also is an excellent one

[@talentsherpa]

This was great! Where's the rest of it? And Thanks😊

[@CookieCurls]

Everything he mentioned and envisioned came true. It’s spooky watching these old interviews. He was right about almost everything. It just took a few decades to get there.

[@kang-xi]

The pod before the pod. Love it!

[@fpvvsford]

I learnt some things about the internet from this interview. And the interview was pre modern internet.

[@miguelmontes5242]

Jobs was such a thoughtful person. Sadly that can't be said of most tech companies CEOs of these days. They are just good engineers, which is nothing compare to Jobs geniuses

[@PeterZeeke]

he was horrible

[@eduard5524]

He had a fresh view on technology, great to listen still today, smart.

[@MrChaluliss]

HTML being called "arcane" is wild. Was it different back then? These days its one of the easiest programming languages to wrap your head around I feel.

[@gnargnargnar]

Jobs always thought from the perspective of the end user. It's in Apple's DNA. From that perspective, it's definitely arcane.

[@Hexspa]

Arcane in the sense that relatively few people knew it. The language was released the same year CERN put WWW tech in public domain: 1993. For a sense of scale, 18 million homes had internet capability but only 3% (~540k) of those had used it in 1995 [1] and there were only 23,500 websites (only about one website per 23 surfers!) [2]. Sources: [1] Pew Research, World Wide Web Timeline, 2014. [2] Science + Media Museum, A Short History of the Internet.

[@HikikomoriDev]

3:53 and then went backwards again with big middle man like eBay and Amazon. Nothing good came from this. The middle man wasn't eliminated, it was enhanced.

[@goldbrick2563]

Only if businesses submit to amazon...they dont have to sell on amazon

[@gcg8187]

Lots of good obviously came from it, why be negative when you can be logical?

[@kb8570]

Thank you for this interview!

[@jorisw_]

10/10 interview. Hooray for NPR!

[@tesfaiembaye7138]

#yourtimeislimited "Your time is limited; I love this phrase by Steve Jobs because it serves as a reminder that our lives are finite and time is a valuable resource that should be used wisely. It's often associated with encouraging people to prioritize their goals, aspirations, and meaningful experiences. Time cannot be regained once it's gone, making this concept a motivating factor for individuals to make the most of their lives and to focus on what truly matters to them."

[@goldbrick2563]

Yo no one has listened to this...4k views, why did they wait so long to release?

[@DavidParket-g1h]

It's a re-release.

[@goldbrick2563]

@@DavidParket-g1h yeah why wait so long to 're-release'

[@strantheman]

1996 phrases no one says now: World wide web Federal Express Steven Jobs

[@Filmyverse4]

Impressive! Thanks for the video.

[@Cyb3riano]

I miss the 90's

[@Trooperos90]

Guy was incredible.

[@Zakariah1971]

Genius

[@hdyayo]

this man was ingenuity personified

[@thestig007]

Interesting to hear Steve Jobs predict the Apple TV in 1996.

[@ARCANEmateCLAN]

Wish he was still alive so I could appreciate him today as an adult

[@mohmahedhamza5093]

thanks for sharing the details of the hack. working perfectly fine with me

[@abhishek1u]

your the best!!! thx!!!

[@charleneaira3996]

Steve Jobs is the best!

[@user-kq8rk1vd3u]

21:23 this is wisdom

[@socialmediahandler]

I really do appreciate.. Thanks a lot..

[@jackilynpyzocha662]

I like BASIC programming, "arcane" as it is! TI 99 4A was my first system!

[@CuriousPerson2206]

Wow he really saw the future

[@Tntaxolotl]

Legendary

[@jamesbyrne9312]

Steven jobs!!

[@snoopywalker1881]

A visionary from the PARC to social media,

[@NoCoverCharge]

That intro music almost made me hang myself

[@playeveryday01]

where is it ?

[@AllisonRhine]

Steve Jobs predicting the future for thirty minutes straight

[@AmyAmy-er8bp]

I grew up with a physicist and she wouldn't eat more than one apple a day. They also found Alan Turing with apple. I ate bags of apples and with each byte they taste better and better.

[@mwa1788]

Though the Internet is way much more important than what Jobs did, most people DO NOT KNOW WHO invented the Internet!!! ... It's because Tim Berners-Lee doesn't have an ego like people such as Steve Jobs or Bill Gates ...

[@leftorright9563]

I’m seeking 100k a year since inception into project starting with experimental drugs that were developed in conjunction with the NIH and DOE. Summer of 2010 to 2024. That would be 1.400.000 usd. This is a reasonable compensation.

[@たぼもちやんこ]

astonishingly everything he said here is our current life.

[@ReflectionOcean]

By "YouSum Live" 00:00:00 The evolution of web interactivity and its implications 00:02:10 Dynamic web pages enhance user experience 00:03:10 Companies need to create custom web content 00:04:00 Web as a direct-to-consumer distribution channel 00:05:00 Information shopping is becoming increasingly common 00:06:00 Software downloading will replace physical media 00:07:00 Access to information empowers special interest groups 00:09:00 Object-oriented programming revolutionizes software development 00:10:30 Next's software is ahead of its time 00:18:20 Apple's innovation must continue to thrive 00:22:00 Liberal arts perspective enhances computer usability 00:25:00 Post-PC devices may redefine personal computing 00:30:00 Pixar's success showcases the power of animation By "YouSum Live"

[@kurianmathew3299]

I think the title should be "Which made toy story"

[@Foxproxy]

God I love this dude

[@saskiavanhoutert6081]

The mouse somehow the most important invention for the computer-industry. Without those you can't handle really good, at least that is my experience and consideration. Touchscreens somehow are fun but for designing and type-possibilities you really are related to a mouse. Kind regards, Saskia van Houtert, (Saus)age; nickname, engineer/office-manager.

[@neanda]

🥲this beautiful interview ended way too early. could you please upload the full unedited recording?

[@lumpytapioca5062]

Browser in a box was WebTV. Considering how early it was, it worked ok. Microsoft bought WebTV and MSN-ed it into dust.

[@lotfullahandishmand4973]

I am reading and when she says now he is head of NeXT, how time moves too fast really.

[@TinLeadHammer]

He was fortunate to see pioneering developments made elsewhere, and smart and relentless in incorporating these inventions into his own products. He is no different in this regard from Bill Gates. Both of them are no different from Thomas Edison, who was known to appropriate others' inventions and make them his own.

[@eensanom]

14:19 « then we had our marxism profit realization crisis » I didn’t get that can anybody explain? Why were the computers sitting on the floor if this other company had promised to buy them?

[@bukurie6861]

Thank you!Wise man are in our mind a❤lways🌏

[@ganesanls8723]

Awesome

[@CaptainPlanet007]

Who is the interviewer, what’s her name?

[@saskiavanhoutert6081]

My practical experience with Steve Jobs programm's is still cherished and still a exploring possibility for me in the future. Steve knows what I am talking about. Kind regards. Saskia van Houtert, engineer/office-manager. Date of description: 28-07-2023, time: 17:44.

[@fabioleao74]

Delicious. Something that works.

[@anilbhosale9138]

this is sick

[@marcb934]

Did he just describe ChatGPT ?

[@filipinovegaslife70]

Steve Jobs has to be the most innovative person ever.

[@cardinalRG]

No, friend, he doesn't have to be that. Besides having Newton, Da Vinci, Borlaug, Beethoven, and countless others in mind, I don't consider Jobs particularly innovative to begin with, outside of the marketing realm.

[@filipinovegaslife70]

@@cardinalRG Steve Jobs was also a great marketer, but it was easy for him the market the products he created because they pretty much sells themselves.

[@cardinalRG]

@@filipinovegaslife70 --Jobs didn't create those products, he oversaw a company whose engineers did that. And no, the products didn't sell themselves because there was stiff competition. Even with Jobs' help, many of the company's products tanked, so the great success of others was due in no small part to Jobs' marketing genius. I mean, the man convinced people that he'd pulled the future into the present, despite that Apple's technology, while excellent, was very much of its time.

[@Ketofit62]

What’s the matter, Steve Jobs? You don’t like the dungeon that you put me in for the right all my life that I was trapped in and I had no help to fix.

[@johnnylin0924]

She kept calling him Steven Jobs

[@rankoneneet2273]

He is describing Amazon

[@Zakariah1971]

Like that lisp 😳

[@WorldCollections]

Custom-built websites…welcome 2023, where ChatGPT and AI will just do that.

[@awckid3]

Sorry he's gone.

[@mauricesteiner8168]

steven jobs

[@valboolin3538]

Katcher

[@tejaskothari673]

He seems smart, he should build a smartphone or something idk

[@abhinav23045]

If you move on you know "you cant always stay in love with your first girl friend"

[@UBETUBEME]

The greatest beautiful gorgeous duck tail fake rug in history On trumpis head

[@CaptainPlanet007]

Listening to this interview made you think it was taken place last week 2023 but instead took place over 40 years ago.. WOW!

[@cardinalRG]

The interview was 27 years ago, friend.

[@jayantdrummer]

Is this since ai-generated stuff?

[@ivanzhanhufeng6606]

No, I read a book containing quotes from this interview long before voice clone was born.

[@emmanuelkuto3694]

​@@ivanzhanhufeng6606 I almost thought it was A.I cloned voice,

[@SyntheticVoices]

No but this is a gold mine for making his ai voice for due to the great quality

[@HenrikVendelbo]

Couldn’t be. His explanations are pure jobs. Cannot be hallucinated

[@HenrikVendelbo]

If I had heard this in 1996 I would have really doubled down on it.

[@rchigaming]

🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸

[@GregA884]

genius

[@gothxm]

its crazy that he was predicting a lot of this stuff we find frustrating now since everything we do is being logged and observed because of all these cool ideas about web being used against us. Trading security and privacy for ease of access. its both miraculous and insidious.

[@adilnaqvi1744]

I wonder if someone is talking about things like this in 2023

[@wan4770]

10:10

[@Notrocketscience101]

He talked the talk but store Wozniak’s computer, almost bankrupted apple with his Mac, the the $20,000 Lisa computer. Was fired from Apple, founded Next, which lost monumental money every year of it’s existence and stumbled into success when Toshiba, had micro hard drives they needed a buyer for. Someone a Apple Recomended making a better music player and the iPod,saved Apple.

[@Systems1]

He's acting so coy about Apple, but there is no doubt by the time he did this interview, negotiations were already well underway to bringing him and his new NextStep OS to Apple.

[@vicheakeng6894]

FIFO

[@MatiasGeraldoThe2nd]

What a genius he was. On the flipside, looking at all these teenagers who can’t even look up or look around the world. He was the greatest drug dealer who ever lived. ADDICTION. That’s what made them richer than the US government. Also, hearing anyone referred to the Internet as “the web “so many times just makes me giggle a little bit.”

[@aktchungrabanio6467]

Heeeeeeeeeeeee's CHUBBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@pdr770]

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[@numbersix8919]

Back before NPR was funded by Charles Koch. Who blew Nord Stream II?

[@gnargnargnar]

Russia. 🙂

[@numbersix8919]

@@gnargnargnar That's the explanation that makes the most sense of all! How clear-headed you must be to have seen through all the lies and deception, for example, President Biden's clear statement before the world that "we will end" Nord Stream, in the presence of the German Chancellor, who added in German, "We will help." I understand Russia is now the threatening the largest nuclear plant in Europe, which they also control. Perhaps we should just sit back and let Russia destroy itself for us?

[@numbersix8919]

@@JBN1983 You have won the Golden Cookie of Truth!

[@skane3109]

Let’s glorify this empty soul who as a billionaire refused to pay child support for his own child. We need more good fathers not better cell phones. FUSJ