How to Repair a Cracked Floor Joist | Ask This Old House

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@cconnon1912
@cconnon1912 Жыл бұрын
I used to watch these as a kid. I now have a 100 year old house and I remember bits and do searches to find out how to fix something in an old house.
@LifeDL
@LifeDL 3 жыл бұрын
This Old House is the best program in the history of television.
@cfcreative1
@cfcreative1 4 жыл бұрын
This is so excellent no bells and whistles just real info.
@leoleebirdevallativa8252
@leoleebirdevallativa8252 7 жыл бұрын
Tom Silva is awesome...he is a straight bad ass he knows everything love learning new things from him everytime I watch...keep up the good work Tom ur awesome...
@jimarmstrong1458
@jimarmstrong1458 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Kinchicken (number of women x 0)= number of women “paid in kind”
@243wayne1
@243wayne1 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimarmstrong1458 - Wrong. You need to take the number of women, divide by half, and then add two. Class dismissed.
@teddyjones3055
@teddyjones3055 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimarmstrong1458 Correct. Zero is the number of women being paid in kind, but the number of women paying in kind, I think that was the question he was asking.
@dannystricker854
@dannystricker854 4 жыл бұрын
as an old carpenter and retired Count structural Inspector, Love this stuff and rarely miss their show on PBS
@charliewheeler725
@charliewheeler725 6 ай бұрын
I love Tom's enthusiasm for his craft he's a legend in the carpentry field, along with Norm Abraham's. I've been watching these guy's since i was an apprentice 40 years ago..
@patriot1303
@patriot1303 6 жыл бұрын
Im an electrician have cut thru many joists - i knew the center third rule ( being off limits) but not the others - very informative good job
@koof_a_loof
@koof_a_loof 6 жыл бұрын
I just wish they would've brought up drilling holes, and their sizing and positioning. A lot of budding sparkys could've benefitted from that info.
@pallen2980
@pallen2980 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, best place to drill is in the center of the beam (vertically). The material in the center of the beam (joist or otherwise) is doing almost nothing to strengthen. The worst place to cut is the bottom edge.
@sunoveristambul
@sunoveristambul 5 жыл бұрын
I hate you electricians. Drilling. Cutting...... And then there was this tile guy who tried to tell me "joist" was only used for roof supports and of course it was FINE for him to cut through 1/2 of my joist to install a BATHTUB. In fact 2 "professions" wanted to do this cuz....the could. BUT my Daddy taught me somethings. Thank God my brother was free to save me from these idiots.
@scotttovey
@scotttovey 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunoveristambul That tells me to make sure there is an automatic termination clause in the contract that terminates the contract immediately should the contractor make such incompetent statements. It also tells you that the contractor in question could not have passed the state licensing exam which would or should have questions regarding structural support in them. Maybe should also have a two or three stage process that will weed these clowns out.
@tonesgaming1012
@tonesgaming1012 5 жыл бұрын
@@petemiller519 so what your saying is to not cut holes out from the bottom but to drill holes from the middle of the joist because of the tensile strenthe. but you said the hole cannot exceed 1/4 of the depth of the joist, but what if you want to run a pipe larger then 1/4 through the joist. will you need to drill a bigger hole?
@PurpleNinja-vn4hv
@PurpleNinja-vn4hv 2 жыл бұрын
Was visiting a friends old house in a college town for a party years ago, and noticed the floor was moving over an inch when things got crazy. Thanks to This Old House, my first instinct was to check the joists in the basement. Sure enough, the floor joist underneath the party zone had a massive crack. Took awhile for me to explain to the owners the danger of this and to convince them to let me fix it, but I never would’ve known anything was wrong if it hadn’t been for this show. Thanks for the help Tom, informative as ever!
@DaeGlyth
@DaeGlyth Жыл бұрын
This is a really great video with awesome explanations and visuals.
@victorquesada7530
@victorquesada7530 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. My old house has a jungle of pipes and wires and ducts going through it, and the first floor joists are in terrible shape for it. I really appreciate the patches and repairs that I can undertake myself to make sure that the floor is stiffer and more supportive when my little ones jump and jostle.
@Bremend
@Bremend 3 жыл бұрын
I like how as Kevin is talking about structure being removed due to ductwork and insulation, Roger just naturally motions towards Richard, as subtlety as he could...
@70sfred1
@70sfred1 4 жыл бұрын
These guys really know their stuff!! I always learn something from this show!
@lgmnowkondo938
@lgmnowkondo938 6 жыл бұрын
I could watch this guy all day....I love learning from the pro's!
@sinhafamily
@sinhafamily 4 жыл бұрын
I wish my home inspector did as good a job of identifying issues when I bought my old house.
@rp9674
@rp9674 2 жыл бұрын
Third house inspectors are about 3rd on my list of evil professions below car salesman and movers (some exceptions). Someone needs to compile a checklist of things home inspector should do, you could ask them to sign off on it and provide pictures, could give you an excellent evidence for a court case.
@CookJunkie
@CookJunkie 9 ай бұрын
Yeah not a lot of home inspectors get the training that they need. And often times not enough experiences from people who’ve done this a long time that passes valuable info like this. Sad but true.
@chriscolameco6850
@chriscolameco6850 8 ай бұрын
Most of them suck, I buy houses for a living and have met ONE (and his cousin) who actually have construction experience
@dancooper6002
@dancooper6002 Ай бұрын
@@chriscolameco6850 Its a very crooked game. You have to train under one and they only take on their friends and relatives for apprentices.
@optimusprime1634
@optimusprime1634 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could download Tommy's brain with all his wealth of knowledge on carpentry and construction.
@cookinitmax
@cookinitmax 5 жыл бұрын
Would of loved to had some one teaching me this stuff when I was young. Yes I know you can learn at any age but trying to learn at 55 and support my self learning a new trade not so easy.
@davidgraham2673
@davidgraham2673 4 жыл бұрын
I understand. A mistake can be costly.
@garyewing5450
@garyewing5450 5 жыл бұрын
Tom. You're the master. Live well forever.
@DanBurgaud
@DanBurgaud 5 жыл бұрын
7:32 our old house my father built it (even though he was not a carpenter) in the early 70s used solid block bridging. Everytime I dream of my childhood, I always dream of that house.
@Greywolf-mv1hx
@Greywolf-mv1hx 5 жыл бұрын
Your father knew what was up, I only use solid block
@rp9674
@rp9674 2 жыл бұрын
Good job dad! My father built a second story on our country house, my brother measured a corner to corner found out it was a parallelogram. He just winged it.
@paulkelm6550
@paulkelm6550 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are great! Thank you so much for the many years of help. Your experience and tips are invaluable! Thanks!
@salvation1449
@salvation1449 4 жыл бұрын
Toms skill is a gift from God. Thank you for sharing it with us.
@Blobjonblob
@Blobjonblob 9 жыл бұрын
Nice job. I would also put plywood gussets on either side of the crack for extra strength.
@liskaerik
@liskaerik 9 жыл бұрын
+iShootBandits same here.
@Goodwithwood69
@Goodwithwood69 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 7 жыл бұрын
What is a gusset ?
@pbristow
@pbristow 7 жыл бұрын
Since the bracket, and also the bottom half of the joist, is only supporting a very small part of the load, additional shoring seems pretty unnecessary. Not to say overkill isn't always great, but in this case it does seem like it would not add any value.
@richhuddleston73
@richhuddleston73 5 жыл бұрын
@@pbristow over kill always Best
@jaggerlayman101
@jaggerlayman101 3 жыл бұрын
Omg thank goodness for you guys ,just watched 2 of your videos on this and seriously helps me in how to fix our issues in our basement since our house is built in 1915 .
@45asunder1
@45asunder1 6 жыл бұрын
that is one beautiful brick house!
@travisd8069
@travisd8069 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a nice brick house. I’d love to take a tour.
@DerekTJ
@DerekTJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@travisd8069 I'd never tire of bouncing on that joist
@dekonfrost7
@dekonfrost7 3 жыл бұрын
Only this old house, only guy thats not an idiot. This guy, sharp as tacs
@vitoscatigno4207
@vitoscatigno4207 4 жыл бұрын
Her joists look good!
@davidparker9676
@davidparker9676 4 ай бұрын
Those broad beams look great!
@allen.lpersingerjr6408
@allen.lpersingerjr6408 5 жыл бұрын
You Guy's are the best , and the little explanation of what you did to repair your fixes are very informative , I watch you guy's all the time and believe your methods 100%, keep them coming.
@RikaKazak
@RikaKazak 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for videos like this, I've learned a TON!
@randymurray934
@randymurray934 5 жыл бұрын
Whole lot of really good information in one short video.. well done.
@Darvineb86
@Darvineb86 2 жыл бұрын
Meghan is everyone of us who are oblivious to framing but want to learn. Thank you for asking the questions the rest of us are too embarrassed to ask.
@sonofrobert
@sonofrobert 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 1930 house and have a crack in the middle of the joist under my bathtub that I need to work on. Plywood attached like Tommy showed is the answer, glued and nailed after propping up. Cheers
@MikeyBsGarage
@MikeyBsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Came for the info, stayed for the thicc...
@santaclaus179
@santaclaus179 3 жыл бұрын
what I like about tom that he explains thing with a lot of calm, so very understandable
@jerrodbridgef1417
@jerrodbridgef1417 4 жыл бұрын
These guy has to be the most knowledgeable instructor in the world meaning the Michael Jordan of the home improvement league being watching these old house since 1992 I was like 15 or 16 watching there program
@bikerchrisukk
@bikerchrisukk 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in construction and have to deal with people that aren't, almost on a daily basis. I probably wouldn't be explaining the problem unless asked, this is an educational video so explaining is the purpose of it. The reason she didn't understand is that he started a sentence talking about feet and then didn't mention that he was talking about inches by the end of the same sentence. Second time round she got it, it's likely we all have knowledge that the next person doesn't have, especially if they're not in the industry. I speak to sparks (electricians) all the time and I can only guess installations to get the ball rolling. They know I'm not a spark and compensate for that, in the same way they might not understand non-electrical building work, and I compensate for that too. No matter how daft a question or lack of understanding is, it's important to appreciate the persons background. At least she admitted she didn't understand, which is better than many people that just nod and carry on without having learnt something. Keep up the good work!
@rp9674
@rp9674 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great attitude
@RutherfordNJDrywallRepair
@RutherfordNJDrywallRepair 7 жыл бұрын
Tom is the BOSS! always learn tons from him!
@Farmer-bh3cg
@Farmer-bh3cg 4 жыл бұрын
Jack up the sagging area(s) with lally column(s) as needed to level the floor over 6 - 8 -12 months or so. When the floor is level, sister the joists on each with 1/8 or 3/16 steel cut to the width of the joists over the length of the run. Be sure to butt the steel up to the floor above. Through bolt the steel on the ends and on a staggered basis every 12 - 16 inches or so (You might consider stainless steel bolts.). That floor simply will not sag again. Did this with a long unsupported run in a shed with a 4 inch sag in the floor. Now I park the car on the floor...
@dcvino
@dcvino 4 жыл бұрын
@Farmer1234 Thank you very much for posting! I am experiencing a 3/4" sag in the livingroom of my house which was built in 1928. I hope to try your method to correct/improve this. I have started slowly jacking up a couple of my problem 2x8" floor joists with the temporary lally Columns. Do you have any pictures of exactly how you sistered in the steel? I believe I understand but I want to get this right. Thank you for your time.
@Farmer-bh3cg
@Farmer-bh3cg 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcvino Glad to be of help. Just take your time adjusting the lally columns. Use something like a 12 - 18 inch long 2X12 as a foot plate to spread the load on the floor and take your time leveling the structure to avoid stressing the building or cracking wallboard. You may also consider using 90 degree angle iron as a sister rib, depending on the particular situation.
@Farmer-bh3cg
@Farmer-bh3cg 4 жыл бұрын
@@dcvino Sadly, no the job was done at the country house a distance away from here. Basically, you sandwich the joist(s) with the sheet steel and hold it in place with Lag screws or bolts. If space permits, C clamps drawn up tightly will hold the sheet metal on either side of the joists. If you wish, when the steel is in place, you can through drill through the first sheet, the joist, and the second sheet to use bolts. Washers and a lock washer will keep the bolts drawn up tight. Hex head bolts are best as you can use two wrenches for maximum tightness.
@dcvino
@dcvino 4 жыл бұрын
@@Farmer-bh3cg Thank you again! I feel much more confident now that I have added the 18" long 2"x12" bases as foot plates for my temporary lally columns and I will be proceeding slowly with the raising of my sagging floors. My neighbor tells me that we have a great metal shop in our area that will custom cut stock to length for the general public and will also drill holes in the steel where required. I will be asking them if angle stock is an option for the size/length I need. My floor joist are (actual 1.5" x just over 7 1/4") 2x8's x approximately 11.5' long. I am planning on through bolting with hardened hex head bolts and over-sized washers.Appreciate your time!
@Farmer-bh3cg
@Farmer-bh3cg 4 жыл бұрын
@Steve A local machine shop should be able to help you or direct you to a metal seller. A length of strap iron will give one dimensional strength while 90 degree Channel iron is stable in two dimensions; both are very strong for the weight. If steel doesn't work for your application, consider an engineered beam. These are basically very thick plywood beams in a variety of lengths, thicknesses and widths. These can be sistered over the cut joist and would also work well. Hope this helps!
@5argetech56
@5argetech56 6 жыл бұрын
Very true about the drywall screws. Brittle. wood expands and contracts. Nails are more forgiving and will not just break.
@smiltastic
@smiltastic 2 жыл бұрын
Answer is at 4:00 The rest is thicc knowledge
@kmr4244
@kmr4244 4 жыл бұрын
You are amazing demonstrator and a perfect problem solver.
@kingart813
@kingart813 6 жыл бұрын
We love you richard! You're such a good sport! Tom, what do i need to do to become like you!????
@thedge7
@thedge7 9 жыл бұрын
Tommy sure nailed it! plumbers hack up the framing all over. I have gone in after them and had to redo their work and repair the framing as well!
@rbeck3200tb40
@rbeck3200tb40 7 жыл бұрын
I saw a guy put in a gas line he cut out a notch thats about 75 % of the floor joist
@bob-ny6kn
@bob-ny6kn 7 жыл бұрын
Previous owner's plumber cut the entire joist to lay a pipe (rather than modifying the pipe run) and propped up the mess with loose brick (in a crawl space, about 20 inches tall). I get to fix it.
@smartchip
@smartchip 6 жыл бұрын
bob nice, if its done right, then you can sleep like a champ,
@mungojack
@mungojack 4 жыл бұрын
"1st thing I want to do is put some glue in that crack" you old romantic
@dvxAznxvb
@dvxAznxvb 4 жыл бұрын
Steve I mean he is joist saying
@MrAjay-tq9bi
@MrAjay-tq9bi 4 жыл бұрын
I like the videos learning from this old house gives me the u Ultimate confidence...thanx
@coolmonkey619
@coolmonkey619 4 жыл бұрын
"then I'll push that crack back together"
@chrisgrandpre6063
@chrisgrandpre6063 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@joeyvanostrand3655
@joeyvanostrand3655 4 жыл бұрын
I think he said "goo" not "glue".
@EM1473
@EM1473 6 жыл бұрын
Cannot stop watching these videos, I am leaning so much! Thank you!
@jimm.9523
@jimm.9523 4 жыл бұрын
You'll lean less if you stop drinking.
@Star_Dust___
@Star_Dust___ 6 жыл бұрын
What a great channel, love the energy. Great job Guys, reminds me old TV shows.
@dickfitzwelliner2807
@dickfitzwelliner2807 6 жыл бұрын
Energy like the weird guy on happy Gilmore?
@bigsweaty8088
@bigsweaty8088 4 жыл бұрын
She sounds like the best version of a typical homeowner
@ScottMiller-tu3gg
@ScottMiller-tu3gg 5 жыл бұрын
He takes the distance, divides it in half, adds two, multiplies that my 100, and that's your bill!
@45asunder1
@45asunder1 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 good one sir👍
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 5 жыл бұрын
Lol🙊
@marred3004
@marred3004 5 жыл бұрын
Jajaja
@grillo7196
@grillo7196 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@peep39
@peep39 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@RI-uv3lm
@RI-uv3lm 5 жыл бұрын
Tommy is always a joy to learn from
@paulavaldez2801
@paulavaldez2801 4 жыл бұрын
legends say that the roll of tape is still rolling
@isaiahcummings5532
@isaiahcummings5532 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha
@josiahamaze
@josiahamaze 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man thats just great
@ChiRickyboy
@ChiRickyboy 4 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@RoyFabian
@RoyFabian 3 жыл бұрын
Just rolled past my house earlier
@devan2462
@devan2462 3 жыл бұрын
Picture me rollin'
@superwiseman452
@superwiseman452 3 жыл бұрын
Bridging not only transfers load to neighboring joists, but bridging (or aka blocking) also prevents the joist from rolling or twisting, which significantly reduces the maximum load of the joist.
@rod928s4
@rod928s4 4 жыл бұрын
What a lovely, full-figured brunette!! Oh ya, the repair was interesting too!
@genmockify
@genmockify 5 жыл бұрын
I have built homes and completed renovations but this is the first time I saw bridging. I used the solid blocking myself. Nice
@fishon8406
@fishon8406 4 жыл бұрын
Tom mentioned at the end gluing in plywood to help stiffen. We have a 110yr old house with 2x4 roof rafters 24"OC originally with Cedar shake roof. Hip roof with five 18' long 2x4's. Then someone took off the shakes, installed 1/2" plywood on top of the 1x8 roofing boards and then asphalt shingles. The weight made the 2x4 rafters bow 2". We bought the house and seeing the huge space in the attic (covered with 100 yrs of dirt and spider webs), cleaned it all up, and gently jacked up the 2x4s watching a string. It couldn't take more than 1" correction before we starting hearing all kinds of creaking. So we left it at 1" dip. Can hardly see that anyway. Then instead of sistering a 2x6, we took another 2x4 and mated it edge to edge to essentially make a 2x8. We cut 1/2" plywood (not OSB) into 8' long strips 7" wide, completely covered both surfaces with Wood glue and put one plywood strip on each side of the 2x4's. Then we used those "hanger nails" Tom mentioned using. We call them Teco nails. #10. Every 12" 1 1/2" from each edge. Used an air palm nailer and ear muffs. This is stronger than a 2x8 and left us way more room for insulation, which we spray foamed in. Then put 1x8 pine to finish it. We sistered 2x8s to the 2x6 floor (2nd floor ceiling support) and put down 3/4" t&g flooring plywood. Carpeted it, and put in an 8' pool table. Now it's a game room. HS kids love it. Even has a wet bar plumbed in with a small fridge and ice machine. I think we added 20,000 to the value. The county assessor sure loved the tour. ack! Been watching TOH since 1985.
@angellas.1314
@angellas.1314 Жыл бұрын
How is it holding up to today?
@ammerconsulting
@ammerconsulting 6 жыл бұрын
There are appropriate sized nails for all joist hanger applications. However, the length of the nail used in a hanger is generally not the determining strength factor. The nails in a hanger are subjected more to shear or cutting than they are to withdrawal or pulling out. So what really matters is the cross section or thickness of the nail and not the length. There are shorter nails that can be used with hangers that don't degrade the load carrying ability of the hanger, you just have to buy the right ones. There are also screws available that can be used with hangers, but they must be the ones specified by the hanger manufacturer. The general statement that "hanger" nails are no good is incorrect. Using the correct product is always the best option.
@notahotshot
@notahotshot Жыл бұрын
"The general statement that 'hanger' nails are no good,is incorrect." I guess it's a good thing nobody made that statement.
@vapeurdepisse
@vapeurdepisse Жыл бұрын
Not sure why you bring this up. Nobody was talking about nail length. He said avoid drywall screws to sister joists, that's all (I would hope most serious DIYer knew that).
@DavidS-pw5gd
@DavidS-pw5gd 4 жыл бұрын
Tom make it look so simple and easy access does help.
@KpopLabPro
@KpopLabPro 7 жыл бұрын
Quality content and advice. Thanks guys!
@DuncanCunningham
@DuncanCunningham 9 жыл бұрын
Good information, explains our springing floors in OUR old house.
@trevorpullen3199
@trevorpullen3199 3 жыл бұрын
I would add: If you need a hole to run piping through, or conduit, it's better to do that at the center depth of the joist (center the hole about 4.5" down from the top in a 2x10 joist). This has the smallest effect on the joist's moment of interia (stiffness) and section modulus (strength). Removing material at the top or bottom of a joist has a much larger effect. Drilling a nice round hole in the center works really well from a structural standpoint and seems easier than cutting a rectangular notch. This can be done anywhere along the joist span and I wouldn't lose bat an eye, as long as it's close the center. I'd limit the hole diameter to about 1/4 the joist depth.
@vapeurdepisse
@vapeurdepisse Жыл бұрын
Wish my electricians and plumbers got the memo. These people are terrible.
@stevehillier7018
@stevehillier7018 5 жыл бұрын
Tommy nailed it again 😜
@kenfulkerson9567
@kenfulkerson9567 5 жыл бұрын
Good job on showing the repair, however if the floor has sagged to a certain extent, the one thing he missed is that the flooring you put in can or will buckle, had to replace the flooring in my laundry room due to the re leveling of the floor. Be aware of this as you may end up replacing that flooring due to re leveling. It will also depend on the type of flooring in place.
@cesargarduno7999
@cesargarduno7999 2 жыл бұрын
I have 3 floor joists with bottom cracks running along, thanks to the video I can run sister joists to help the bad ones the proper way.
@rd-ch1on
@rd-ch1on 4 жыл бұрын
She's got a nice basement ;)
@Koobieful
@Koobieful 3 жыл бұрын
Nice crack in it too
@dominicgutierrez9886
@dominicgutierrez9886 6 жыл бұрын
I been a construction labor for a little while and one thing people don’t get is that you can pick up the trade in a few days I love watching your videos you explain every detail and never fail to keep the videos coming
@randomrecordings4818
@randomrecordings4818 Жыл бұрын
2:44 Got her feeling self conscious.
@tonytrotta9322
@tonytrotta9322 Ай бұрын
Nice job. I had to jack up my son’s loft in garage for storage and added sister studs. Also I made (1) u- shaped steel bracket each end mounted to 2 x 4 to make sure the hydraulic jack and 2 x 4 above does not slide off the jack or 2 x 4 when jacking up. That way is safer than what is shown here.
@BazColne
@BazColne 7 жыл бұрын
Fabulous, gentlemen. Absolutely fabulous.
@DataWaveTaGo
@DataWaveTaGo 7 жыл бұрын
Those appliances & people have a lot more heft compared to 100 years ago, thus floor stress is way up.
@243wayne1
@243wayne1 4 жыл бұрын
When you say "Appliances and people" you mean her...
@DataWaveTaGo
@DataWaveTaGo 4 жыл бұрын
@@243wayne1 Further on that: At 1:00 1) - HIM - Your sill is a 6 by 6 and your joists are let into that sill." 2) - HER: - (breathless) Aukay... 3) - She lost him at 1). ;)
@wisolutions
@wisolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to me the next time you haul an old wood stove ;)
@TheMixedPlateFrequency
@TheMixedPlateFrequency Жыл бұрын
This is an extremely great channel. Enjoy seeing the information and content.
@Krunch2020
@Krunch2020 9 ай бұрын
I would have gone overboard and added hangers to every joist. 😅
@deanmohamed7575
@deanmohamed7575 Жыл бұрын
Tom Silva, the man
@TheInroad
@TheInroad 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm not getting it." Okay go back upstairs I'll send you an invoice.
@user-gk3lu1gg9t
@user-gk3lu1gg9t 6 жыл бұрын
*bill increases by 50%*
@ricardoperez5324
@ricardoperez5324 6 жыл бұрын
You take the original bill divide it by half and then multiply by 2 then add it to the sub total after tax
@Sartonica
@Sartonica 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent customer relations! You go to the head of the class. On second thought, just go to the head.
@AlessioSangalli
@AlessioSangalli 5 жыл бұрын
I mean for the sake of the video, couldn't she just say "OK"?
@neo214
@neo214 5 жыл бұрын
​@@AlessioSangalliI think she said what she did for the sake of the video
@darthvader5300
@darthvader5300 3 жыл бұрын
When I was assigned in the Middle East by my government in 1975 (I was 49 years old by that time) I am also an adventurous guy so I went from village to village and I saw a carpenter doing something strange and he told me he is making Aramaic wood which is wood of the Aramaic Bible. He cuts the timber into very thin, long, rectangular sheets and placed the 1st layer on a very thick and flat metal non-sticking anodized surface that has guiding pins made out of the same material on it's sides, then he brush it with a thick layer of boiling sap resins and places an another one on it and repeats the same process until he has reached the desired thickness and then a non-stick annodized thick metal plate is place on it and his sons and nephews places iron weights on it. He said they sometimes use a large number of vices to compress the material. He also said they do not make this woof often anymore except as timber beams and timber posts, joists and rafters and wall frames, stair way supporting frames, floor and wall and stepping stairway foundation planks, foundation door frames and doors only for very well to do traditional families. They only do it for the main wood foundation structures only for the hardened and cured sap resins discolors the very thin wood layers as it penetrates and saturates the wood. Then they place a thin layer of the desired wood and use modern wood glue and small nails to cover it with non-discolored wood. And it is almost virtually impossible to break because if he takes two pieces of thin wood layers and used the same technique of binding them together and holding them in a very tight vice the layer between the two pieces of wood will not break but only either the outer sides will start to crack but when used as a very thick planks, beams, posts, joists, rafters, stairway supporting frames, etc it is virtually indestructible. I asked an Aramaic Priest about the historical background of the Aramaic wood and he said it is the same kind of wood used by Noah to build his Ark! When properly made, hardened, and cured, and seasoned it should last forever and will outlast any metal and stone and clay and ceramics known to man. The gopher wood mentioned in the Chrisian Bible is actually structural laminated wood, only done in the original Pre-Flood methods and techniques.
@rivernet62
@rivernet62 7 жыл бұрын
The bridging is under compression as described, not tension.
@VideoNOLA
@VideoNOLA 6 жыл бұрын
Technically both. The "downs" undergo compression, the "ups" are in tension.
@alext9067
@alext9067 5 жыл бұрын
@@VideoNOLA Cross-bridging as shown cannot hold a tensile load. Nails do not work well in shear. Only the members pointing down from the joist in question will transfer the load by compression. Just saying.
@catolic2004
@catolic2004 5 жыл бұрын
Great, informative video for us non-framing carpenter type trades. (I'm a sparktrician)
@fvids1603
@fvids1603 6 жыл бұрын
I know I have. That’s payback plumbers are notorious for cutting the important framing
@bjornjoseph
@bjornjoseph 4 жыл бұрын
If i could spend a week apprenticeing with these guys
@duanewhite3184
@duanewhite3184 5 жыл бұрын
I'd leave a jacked up until the glue dried
@thomast8553
@thomast8553 3 жыл бұрын
I would find the dip, put up the jack and 2x4 and leave In place forever
@jimmybob7364
@jimmybob7364 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just bought an 80 year old house and it has this problem on one joist
@awesomedave8484
@awesomedave8484 4 жыл бұрын
Now your still gonna have that MASSIVE DIP in your floor but at least the crack in the joist you didn't know about won't bother you any more!
@Painmaster212
@Painmaster212 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought. The issue they wanted fixed was the dip not the unknown cracked floor joist but that was probably outside the This Old House budget.
@TheArfdog
@TheArfdog 3 жыл бұрын
The structure was fixed for a song.
@Luciano_Intorno
@Luciano_Intorno 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that once something like wood has settled and creeped into a deflected state, there isn't any realistic option to get that creep back out. You aren't going to just jack the deflected spot and straighten it back out. You probably have to just put new joists up and jack them into a position that lifts the sub-floor back up after you have cut it free from the screwed up spots. I've done the structural design on several house remodels. Sometimes we can get sticking doors on the second floor to stop sticking and windows to open better, but a lot of times, the framing just isn't oriented in a way that you are able to do much about it without more major tear down and rebuild. Sometimes the issue is the sill plate has crushed under an overloaded column and you really aren't fixing that without some removing and rebuilding. A lot of times, you can make it perfectly safe and you stop any more deflection from occurring, but people are just going to have to reset doors and windows and retrim things. You can always redo you floor with shimming under it to get it as level as possible, once you've stopped it from any more movement. There's a reason why the phrase cut to fit and paint to match exists.
@speedshiftr88
@speedshiftr88 5 жыл бұрын
3:18...magically appear the examples..top notch guy
@toddrf
@toddrf 5 жыл бұрын
pun intended?
@esoomreltna
@esoomreltna 9 жыл бұрын
OK Tommy said you had to nail a sisters section to a damaged beam. Of course drywall screws are WRONG but would not deck screws or 1/4" thread size lag bolts be OK?
@KrispeKreme
@KrispeKreme 9 жыл бұрын
+esoomreltna properly sized wood screws would work. The reason that nails are preferred in this type of application is that nails have better shear strength than screws and the load on a sistered joist is mainly shearing force.
@ammerconsulting
@ammerconsulting 6 жыл бұрын
Shear strength has to do with the type of material and the cross sectional area. Drywall screws are not acceptable for these types of situations because they are too brittle (Just as Tommy said). Walking on the floor creates a cyclic load on the fasteners. A brittle faster, like a drywall screw will not stand up to that cyclic load as well as a softer steel nail.
@ChrisP-hk9dc
@ChrisP-hk9dc 6 жыл бұрын
Most screws dont have any sort of shear strength rating required for structral work. Simpson (and other manufacturers) make specialty screws that have engineered load ratings and are alot easier to work with than lag bolts. I
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 6 жыл бұрын
Rss structural screw would work if you want to use screws. www.grkfasteners.com
@philippm.1271
@philippm.1271 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with anything he said, i would have used ring shank nails. Well in our regulations we have to, but they produce an excellent clamping force and they won't come lose!
@brans7269
@brans7269 6 жыл бұрын
Tommy said there would still be a pitch! Why wouldn't the floor level up if the joists is fixed?
@chomper4x4
@chomper4x4 5 жыл бұрын
'cause the whole house has settled over 100 yrs in part because all of those joists were notched. Also foundation cracks, settling, deterioration, expansion and contraction from freeze thaw cycles, earth quakes, soil compaction or lack of , underground water, flooding, poor drainage etc. yada yada.
@ncsouthernman
@ncsouthernman 2 жыл бұрын
you guys are the best. i love how Tommy picked on Richard. blame the plumber. 😁
@tepigfan1599
@tepigfan1599 5 жыл бұрын
"Okay I don't get it!" That's literally me 😂😂
@josehernandez-xn9jm
@josehernandez-xn9jm 5 жыл бұрын
Do you need some help tepigfan
@panpluto13
@panpluto13 4 жыл бұрын
You were in there video?
@robertoreilly6660
@robertoreilly6660 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Tom omitted the conversion from feet to inches. The way he first said it, the joist would have been 9 ft wide.
@noonespecial9233
@noonespecial9233 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I didn't get it the first time either. Like it makes perfect sense if you are a freakin construction god like Silva but for the first time hearing it I was a lil confused 😅
@elviejon5093
@elviejon5093 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for all the great information on every single video. You are the best !
@phxtonash
@phxtonash 9 жыл бұрын
Like Tommy has never nailed or screwed into a pipe causing Richard to have to replumb
@fnhwk
@fnhwk 7 жыл бұрын
phxtonash everyone makes mistakes, Tommy didn't get where he is today by never once messing up.
@xXxmlg_vacxXx
@xXxmlg_vacxXx 7 жыл бұрын
phxtonashk
@luckyvet
@luckyvet 6 жыл бұрын
Lol Phxto just what I was thinking
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550
@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550 4 жыл бұрын
That is why they have to put metal straps on the studs where the plumbing is, though you can hit plumbing once in a while. The drywall guys are probably subcontractors.
@troythueson943
@troythueson943 4 жыл бұрын
Plumbers know only three things: Poop runs downhill, payday is on Friday, NEVER scratch your nose!
@charlest1708
@charlest1708 3 жыл бұрын
I have a historic home with a similar issue,my question would be who would I call to take a look at something like this.I would like to look at getting it repaired but don’t quite know where to begin.
@dadvibes8861
@dadvibes8861 4 жыл бұрын
Next time on “This Old PAWG” 😆
@theumpteenthtime8854
@theumpteenthtime8854 4 жыл бұрын
Preach
@Davcook
@Davcook 4 жыл бұрын
Boa I had to check the comments to see if I was the only one who noticed
@wakopf
@wakopf 4 жыл бұрын
She is thicker than a bowl of oatmeal.
@evilbeetlekustomscreations4965
@evilbeetlekustomscreations4965 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not the only one😀
@sandyknowles5638
@sandyknowles5638 4 жыл бұрын
:||||
@lukem5268
@lukem5268 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure why, but the montage of him looking for problems is so epic
@Steve-tj5ti
@Steve-tj5ti 5 жыл бұрын
I'd go ahead an put a hanger on all the other joists as well.
@AndrewBrowner
@AndrewBrowner 4 жыл бұрын
all the other joists seem to have lasted 100+ years you wanna pay his hourly wage to install 100 of those
@dmcd7333
@dmcd7333 4 жыл бұрын
Love these guys- do miss Norm though.....they have had a great run with This old house and ask this old house!!!!
@robs1852
@robs1852 4 жыл бұрын
When you look at some of the atrocities committed against floor joist, it's easy to tell what craft did it because you will have a PIPE going through an oversized giant notch!
@ElRecopilador-wz9dn
@ElRecopilador-wz9dn Жыл бұрын
I would have added a second joist just to reinforce that part of the house and probably a small metal pier in the middle. But I'm a freak: I like to over/secure things. I hate frailty. I like sturdy and super solid structures
@spikey2740
@spikey2740 5 жыл бұрын
Cutting out a sharp corner introduces high stresses (under load) into a beam, etc. Radiusing the corner greatly reduces the peak stress and spreads it out. About 1967 or so Ford racing engines had a high failure rate due to that very thing. When machining a bearing journal or something that had two perpendicular faces, they used a sharp tool to cut into the corner. High RPM, etc caused several failures, before they learned another way to do things. They ended up using a slight radius on the cutting tool, something like 1/16" radius. Bingo. No more broken crankshafts.
@rcnelson
@rcnelson 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Radiusing crankshaft fillets is standard procedure for increasing crank strength.
@rp9674
@rp9674 2 жыл бұрын
Great story
@larrymoore6640
@larrymoore6640 5 жыл бұрын
A carpenter or sheetrock person generally always has to follow a plumber. Plumbers are good at tearing things up but not their job to repair. Good video with lots of information.
@cloud0571
@cloud0571 8 ай бұрын
She got that Cake factory
@carnini
@carnini 6 жыл бұрын
Some great tips especially about the bridging strengthen the joists
@saulgoodman2018
@saulgoodman2018 7 жыл бұрын
So you can still screw it, just get the right screws.
@johnjerrehian4642
@johnjerrehian4642 3 жыл бұрын
I think I am addicted to this channel.
@beeftonguejenkins2283
@beeftonguejenkins2283 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, so nobody's going to acknowledge just how curvy and fine this woman is? I guess I'm the only guy in here who likes them built for impact.
@platformstudios9304
@platformstudios9304 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaand...thats what I came for!
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