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@andresgutierrez59872 жыл бұрын
Willam Dafoes green goblin is already scary even though it’s just a armor
@Aaron_Heininger Жыл бұрын
No it's a joke it wasn't scary at all. I grew up on legend, jarasic park, lost boys and freaking Tim Burton Batman Wich Danny as penguin was way more scary and creepy then this green goblin. If you call that scary you must of been afraid of your own shadow.
@jamesmichelson5375 Жыл бұрын
@@Aaron_HeiningerK, tough kid .
@kingdamazo7266 Жыл бұрын
@Aaron Heininger OK Aaron we get it you're a cool tough guy🤣🙄
@Arthur.D.3974 Жыл бұрын
@@Aaron_Heiningerthat scared you as a kid😂
@Aaron_Heininger Жыл бұрын
@@kingdamazo7266no im scared of roller coasters with straight down dropps. And being up really high but high that's a logical fear especially if I'm on something that doesn't feel sturdy or could potentially have issues one day. Where talking about a movie and a villain that wouldn't of been in the movie masked up till the very end. So yah i will say your afraid of your shadow if you cant handle character in a mask saying a few creepy lines and throwing pumpkin bombs.
@playa18779 ай бұрын
Let's be honest William Dafoe doesn't need a mask....
@Ultriac3018 ай бұрын
On that...we can ALL agree!😊
@aidankeohane33708 ай бұрын
Props to No Way Home for realizing that and for utilizing the purple hoodie and the Goblin armor the way they did.
@ThePickler45677 ай бұрын
@@aidankeohane3370on god but it was used for like 5 minutes and then he takes it off
@Marco_Venieri6 ай бұрын
His face is already a mask
@crashpal5 ай бұрын
"Out am I?" With a face so snarky despite just getting fired from the job
@-castradomis-17733 ай бұрын
That actually looks really fucking cool.
@RipMads-2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Ivan210bluboiАй бұрын
Dafoe looks cooler
@smartchaiАй бұрын
AGREE 💯 !!!!
@ericlogan990513 күн бұрын
The mask which looks like The Mask
@josephross875312 күн бұрын
It would of been good for like tim curry or jim carry
@user-cs1oe8fn8s2 ай бұрын
Who needs an animatronic face when there is an actor like Willem Defoe who can deliver such a fantastic performance
@KeruToL15 күн бұрын
To conceal his identity until the big reveal at the end, of course.
@spinny0032 ай бұрын
Even just Dafoe's performance outside the suit terrified me as a kid. This would've sent me to therapy.
@ChilesheKateule22 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😩for real!
@OriolesFan51514 күн бұрын
Well let’s just say he acts out mental problems well.
@MrKingYuji Жыл бұрын
I read a rumor that in No Way Home when Aunt May stuck the serum into Norman’s neck, it was supposed to make him green like the comics but they scrapped it and simply said “it didn’t work”
@aaronkenyon711211 ай бұрын
It makes sense for him to say that instead. It helps imply that Goblin came back whilst the serum was in the middle of being created and he sabotaged it
@MrKingYuji11 ай бұрын
@@aaronkenyon7112 never thought of it that way. True
@theguybehindyou476211 ай бұрын
Smart choice, original design was dumb anyway.
@TheDragonman10410 ай бұрын
@@aaronkenyon7112Still, they could have his sabotaging be why his face turned green.
@firestrikeriii504310 ай бұрын
It did work
@HankingMySchrader Жыл бұрын
This is literally what the goblin mask is in the comics
@ProphecyNimbus309042 жыл бұрын
Yeah real shame they didn’t cover dafoe’s performance as the goblin. Especially with a thick metal mask.
@Aaron_Heininger Жыл бұрын
Lol I know what a stupid person. Contradicted himself and probably didn't even realize it. Just goes to show content creators aren't always bright.
@boogasloogas8359 Жыл бұрын
Bruh, ever watched the movie? I know I’m a year late but hey no one else said anything
@ProphecyNimbus30904 Жыл бұрын
@@boogasloogas8359 I just meant that I felt the other mask would have been more emotive than the metal helmet. Don’t get me wrong what we got was iconic and I love it but I also like this other one :)
@vulturedroid7674 Жыл бұрын
@@ProphecyNimbus30904I think that the issue is that with a stiff animatronic face Willem’s performance would have to be limited to the stiff mouth movements of the animatronics whereas under the mask he’s able to perform however he wants.
@Aaron_Heininger Жыл бұрын
@@vulturedroid7674 no the real issue is that it was too scary for children or some dumb crap so they scraped it. If you watch the full test footage of the mask there was no issues with facial expressions so it wasn't a limitation factor it was was just a scary factor. Keep in mind there parents send complaining letters to Hollywood everyday. So just like the cancel culture of today parents and teachers bread that behavior into the kids of today. Nothing but a bunch of butthurt people with nothing better to do.
@imCaptNate6 ай бұрын
Peter should’ve known Norman was the foe…it’s literally in the name….willam da-foe
@jwwprod38625 ай бұрын
Well Robert Pattinson knew from the start at the very least.
@tysonlittlefield32005 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Enigmatic-v834 ай бұрын
@@jwwprod3862 pattinson? Pat in son? Bat in son?
@Zzzquil_Lord_v24 ай бұрын
Funny thing about Willem Dafoe, his name kinda sounds like a frog talking to a parrot.
@harekrishnasahoo054 ай бұрын
Willem....daFoe !
@1of1nujra Жыл бұрын
The armor mask was the better call in my opinion since it let him give a better performance with his facial expressions for when he took it off rather than a face mold
@johnjackson8327 Жыл бұрын
That's a joke right
@lincoln2408 Жыл бұрын
what facial expressions?
@1of1nujra Жыл бұрын
@@lincoln2408 if they had used the face mold he wouldn’t have been able to give as great of a performance like in the final version when he was talking to Spider-Man near the end of the movie before his death
@penguinproductions8829 Жыл бұрын
@@johnjackson8327OP is referring to Defoe unmasked - if there was an animatronic mask you would never get his facial expressions when he takes it off. You can actually see his face through the mask around the mouth and eyes anyway, so he was still expressive.
@crashpal Жыл бұрын
@@lincoln2408DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I'VE SACRIFICED?!?
@OrangeStarHighSchool5 ай бұрын
That would have looked so raw thats as accurate as his costume was fr. That is a top tier prop
@joshseipel17837 ай бұрын
I wish they went with the original one only cause it would end a trend of having green goblin be a power ranger
@spedman569 ай бұрын
Glad they didn’t use it in 2002 But next time they do Green Goblin they should strongly consider that idea
@deadartist88274 ай бұрын
Exactly
@julianx2rl4 ай бұрын
That "next time" already happened, I very much doubt they'll bring the Goblin again in a long while. It doesn't make sense for Tom to get his own Goblin after NWH... Now Kingpin on the other hand.
@renegadepyro7263 ай бұрын
It would work wonders for Hobgoblin for sure. Just a more realistic looking goblin instead of armor or a mask
@pastashack35173 ай бұрын
Next time there's a new iteration of Green Goblin, it's gonna be a CGI face. There's not the incentive to do it practically like those anymore.
@spedman563 ай бұрын
@@pastashack3517 sadly that’s true. Reminds me of the Thing remake in 2011 they did the whole movie in practical effects like the original then some dumbass executive said they had to cover it all up in cgi then they ruined it
@undeaddragon405 ай бұрын
Not to discredit the final mask, but I think this is genuinely the best the Green Goblin has ever looked In live action that old mask is so amazing
@captchuckles5158 ай бұрын
He almost went Green Goblin Mode
@DED_MEEM8 ай бұрын
That animatronic mask was still pretty tight tho.
@robjgolde32215 ай бұрын
“Some might say Willem Dafoe has a motorized goblin face.”
@Rezzanine3 ай бұрын
"You know, I'm something of a goblin myself."
@jonahk65772 жыл бұрын
That looks really good . Wish we got this
@edaartist9 ай бұрын
the reason why they didn’t was because dafoe had thought the mask was uncomfortable on his head
@giodominguez3659 ай бұрын
@@edaartistno it wasn’t, dafoe nvr even put this suit on😂
@giodominguez3659 ай бұрын
@@edaartistnd also it was to scary for the kids back then
@edaartist9 ай бұрын
@@giodominguez365 then who wore the animatronic
@C4DeadCharge9 ай бұрын
@@giodominguez365 You’re both right. What op is referring to is the metal mask. Dafoe specifically wanted to break that mask in No Way Home because of how uncomfortable it made him in 2002 and how uncomfortable it still made him to wear.
@killertheweebwarriors26856 ай бұрын
I hope this will bring back in MCU.
@cosmicplays3788 Жыл бұрын
Steve Ditko originally wanted the green goblin to be an alien from egyptian pyramids before they decided to make it a superstrength serum for Norman Osborn to use.
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath425911 ай бұрын
The spectacular spiderman tv show version does resemble a pharoah in some ways. The shape of the eyes and eyeliner, pharaoh chin, and mummy bandages
@eNCy.6 ай бұрын
Im glad it was changed. Not only does the armor look cooler, but also if he looked like that, then you wouldn't be able to see Willem Dafoe's fantastic acting performance. Dafoe is what makes this version of Green Goblin my favorite Spider-man villain.
@dibby_xan2 ай бұрын
Eh i like the way they did it the way the chemical altered his mind into a split personality that's very obvious in the movies is a cool way to show a "monster" that's really just a person
@user-pm6nx1fs2w2 ай бұрын
It's stupid when they make Norman and The Goblin separate personalities because that is not the case.
@masterasia41756 ай бұрын
The first guy to the right of the table clutching his pearls at the green goblin 🤣🤣🤣
@MAKAVEL-IAN2 жыл бұрын
I think it's fine to have an actors face covered up because they can use other ways to get across they're emotions and yeah it sucks a little that we don't get Willem face shown alot but I think his acting makes up in other ways like his body movements or his voice
@HORRORINFINITE Жыл бұрын
Plus you can see every bit of emotion in his face either way since his mouth is visible in every shot beneath the mask and so are his devil like crazy eyes
@chocov1233 Жыл бұрын
Like David Prowse or Hayden Christensen as Darth Vader.
@smartchai8 ай бұрын
EXACTLY !
@blued3vi1612 жыл бұрын
Then imagine "No way Home?" 😳
@theguybehindyou476211 ай бұрын
Fully transformed goblin pretending to be normal while everyone acts like nothing unusual is happening.
@mileslugo6430 Жыл бұрын
I wish they have him some prosthetic during no way home. William De Foe is so expressive, but a little make up and some enhancements would take his performance over the edge.
@RonRogan3 ай бұрын
They couldn’t make a goblin mask to work. So they decided to get the man with the goblin face.
@BigJDawg45233 ай бұрын
William Dafoe is already THE goblin.
@s1imeba1111 ай бұрын
Idk what y’all are talkin about, that mask would’ve made him 10x scarier of a villain, with Willem’s voice behind it, nightmare fuel
@smartchai8 ай бұрын
I TOTALLY AGREE 👍👍👍👍 ! They MOST DEFINITELY should have used the animatronic "GREEN GOBLIN" face because it's comic book accurate AND looks a lot more terrifying than the metal faceplate that they ended up using and all 🙄🤦😒 !
@shawnellesmithАй бұрын
Which is probably one of the reasons they didn’t use it. With the target audience being kids, there was no way the film be as popular as it is today. Too traumatic for children.
@Chubby_Runs Жыл бұрын
That’s fucking awesome, I hope this idea makes it into a movie somehow
@i.pfreely6450Ай бұрын
"you know how muchhh sacrificed!?!" Is the best scene you fan visibly see the snger in his eye his voice everything!
@charlesclymans1316Ай бұрын
Okay but that puppet looked very impressive with the movements
@Zombie_Trooper8 ай бұрын
A friend of mine owns that mask. It's the crown jewel of his costume/prop collection.
@techfrank24313 ай бұрын
Damn, he lucky he has that good quality mask. He should definitely wear it at comic con. People will appreciate his cosplay
@connorbyrne9847 Жыл бұрын
The latex mask was very emotive, and definitely more than the metal one. Though I think reducing the metal mask to like a smaller one that only covers the upper face, then giving him the hood is a good work around
@T0pMan1511 ай бұрын
But it didn’t look good on camera in 2002
@radrno710 ай бұрын
Just a makeup mask would've been fine.
@MakoSucks8 ай бұрын
@@radrno7 im a military contractor, I can fabricate a mask over our existing tech in a few hours... nah f that, imma run to Spirit Halloween, and let me do some make up. .. ya know... im somewhat of a special effect make up artist myself.
@cjmitch91Ай бұрын
"Impressive!" * Kick!
@michwashington Жыл бұрын
The puppet rack actually would have shown more range than that awful Halloween mask we got !😢
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath425911 ай бұрын
Yup
@Jackseyez2 ай бұрын
It would’ve been cool if he physically transformed into the fleshy goblin than being a man in inanimate armor
@user-pm6nx1fs2w2 ай бұрын
Or if they just kept the mask with the inanimate armor
@Groggle71415 ай бұрын
This just shows that the Raimi movies are heavily inspired by the Ultimate comics. I'm pretty sure Norman turning into a big green guy was from the Ultimate comics. Honestly, the Raimi movies are basically: 90s Cartoon + Ultimate Comics
@Schamazme1324 ай бұрын
I really hope that the first design goblin will be used in a future spiderman movie. I mean its nice by the way
@HORRORINFINITE Жыл бұрын
What’s cool about the metal mask is that even with a covered up face, you can still distinguish every emotion in William’s performance as his mouth and eyes are always visible Beneath the mask and you can always see his mouth make the most inhuman smiles and laughs which is a cool detail that I think most people don’t recognize
@Masssshysteria4 ай бұрын
it’s through his dialogue that makes it work. which proves how great an actor Willem is.
@HORRORINFINITE26 күн бұрын
@@Masssshysteriathere’s also that too for sure!
@Dr.Manninton Жыл бұрын
I like the transformation more As it would've been more in line with the comics and had his original design more in tact as I'm more of a fan of OG Giblin design compared to the green armor we got
@ATR-_9 ай бұрын
I think the armor should have been worn by Harry, while Norm was transformed. Harry took up his fathers name and suit anyways so it would have made more sense.
@techfrank24313 ай бұрын
I know right? It would of been more accurate and better like in the comics
@aquilessd2536 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god! Imagine Spider-Man movie with this mask instead the rigid mask, simply incredible. The concept was comic accurate 👌👌👌
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath425911 ай бұрын
Yeah looks so good. Wouldve made it more memorable but i also am pretty happy with what we got. I did pray this would be used for no way home but sadly it wasnt.
@femboy4rumMars Жыл бұрын
Funny how in TASM2 they a actually went with the “Transforming into the Goblin” concept.
@777superlightwater4 ай бұрын
That was sick
@HippityhoppityGnWАй бұрын
Yeah they just made him look like a crackhead instead of a goblin.
@AgentKirito564 ай бұрын
Actually, that first design was the original Green Goblin
@rigobertomercado253911 ай бұрын
The fact that the lenses would open up to show willems eyes made the suit 10x more terrifying
@ashavedchicken2 жыл бұрын
The mask kinda fit better for me 🤷🏽♀️
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath425911 ай бұрын
Yeah its way better
@kevinwlad4942Ай бұрын
This green goblin is insane 😮🤯🤯
@Kadedol2 ай бұрын
That man ages like fine wine, And I'll hear no different.
@gabmoreno2809 ай бұрын
But perhaps we could use it for it in the future like have the puppet face in one of the new spiderman films alternate universe
@RetroJetro9 ай бұрын
Going Green Goblin Mode
@SA-247Ай бұрын
It actually looks comic accurate but I'm willing to suspend disbelief to get William Dafoe preformance.
@OnlyJustCrazy6 ай бұрын
They learned their lesson in No Way Home at least
@greengobbie435 Жыл бұрын
Damn I look mad disgustingly beautiful.
@mewtwo.1508 ай бұрын
They should have done that in Spiderman 3 with his son
@deadartist88274 ай бұрын
Yup! My thoughts exactly.
@ScorchtheHawk3 ай бұрын
You can tell a lot of the scenes were written with this original design in mind. And while Dafoe did his best, his performance was hindered by the thick metal mask
@Michael-Vibin4 ай бұрын
I love that you can always see him talking through the mouth of the mask it somehow makes it more scary
@chriulstopher762111 ай бұрын
Proceeds to have a mask cover his face
@VancityMerc319 Жыл бұрын
I love the Goblin Armor
@JStantonX3 ай бұрын
Norman Osborn was already goblin-ish without the costume.
@CertifiableАй бұрын
Dude, that's LITERALLY HIS MOUTH in the tests.
@chaosrealmer345511 ай бұрын
They must have changed the whole plot with that decision. There are scenes with Norman when he's not being the Goblin that we couldn't have gotten if he was transformed.
@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo8 ай бұрын
We could have easily lived without the scenes of him screaming into a mirror. We already know Goblin is a lunatic, we don't need to see that over and over
@edwardstewart63729 ай бұрын
I would like to see his skin turned green with his larg pointy ears, short fangs and his eyes turned yellow with red veins or yellow glowing goggles but definitely a hood on his head like the Far From Home movie. So like I said green skin, pointy ears, short fangs and yellow eyes is all he needed because he really had the perfect face and demeanor for the character.
@Amaend8Ай бұрын
The mask is too iconic
@dylansearcy39666 ай бұрын
He can still do his performance with that mask
@JackR15158 ай бұрын
The armor is badass glad they stuck with that
@berensteinwolf4039 Жыл бұрын
I want a version of the Goblin that uses these practical effects. Spiderverse?? 😁
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath425911 ай бұрын
Yeah i know right
@peterstoric65603 ай бұрын
Another fun fact: when the idea of Green goblin was first being created he was originally supposed to be an actual goblin that got released from an ancient tomb. But Stan Lee thought it would be more interesting for it to be a man behind a mask
@Elitesolider1023Ай бұрын
If they ever bring toby mcguire spiderman back, they should save that look for hobgoblin.
@KenMasters. Жыл бұрын
No Way Home has the best Goblin costume.
@777superlightwater4 ай бұрын
🤦🏼♂️
@777superlightwater4 ай бұрын
He’s not even green… and he looks dumb wearing the hood
@KenMasters.3 ай бұрын
@@777superlightwater It's true. I actually got scared by the Goblin for the first time.
@HippityhoppityGnWАй бұрын
It was quite expressive and interesting, but I do prefer the 2002 one.
@chocov1233 Жыл бұрын
Didn't they just cover up his face with a expressionless mask in the final product?
@crashpal5 ай бұрын
I feel it worked better. Amazing Spiderman 2 ended up becoming a dud when they tried practical effect with Harry
@PoeticTea_5 ай бұрын
They artificially straighted his teeth when he was Norman and used his normal teeth for the goblin to signify the difference in personality when the mask was off
@Mattkay-cy5yt7 ай бұрын
The puppet faced seems more like something for a really comic accurate style look
@jacobsed66652 ай бұрын
That looks so much better and so much like the cartoon
@Xur1annn Жыл бұрын
just imagine a goblin as your father sitting at your dinner table with your girlfriend, your friend and his aunt. unless norman’s face just somehow transforms back to willem
@jmcclain8237Ай бұрын
You couldn't really see his face while in his armor so having him " transform " into the goblin with that mask would've been fantastic.
@yatsuto60886 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks it looks way better like that.
@dariajames6200 Жыл бұрын
Willem also didn’t want to wear it as he said it was too uncomfortable
@xusernamex71462 жыл бұрын
He was great but if they could have pulled that off that would have been cool
@user-gy2qp6df2z16 күн бұрын
That would have been fire as a real goblin
@steventhomas28562 ай бұрын
"It would've been a shame to cover that up with a puppet face". So they covered it up with a rigid plastic Halloween mask instead. Genius.
@Vault-Dweller-20259 ай бұрын
I totally agree with your opinion. Most people are like, oh I wish it was the animatronic instead of the armor, but I’m like… just no lol
@PressingOnCortette2 жыл бұрын
I would have been ok with this
@james96672 жыл бұрын
really? it looks super goofy to me
@PressingOnCortette2 жыл бұрын
@@james9667 so. It’s a comic book feel. I respect your opinion though
@james96672 жыл бұрын
@@PressingOnCortette I get that, I just like what they decided on better. Same to you friend
@PressingOnCortette2 жыл бұрын
@@james9667 I know. William Defoe played green goblin perfect. I wouldn’t have the green goblin any other way though
@aquilessd2536 Жыл бұрын
@@james9667it looks incredible, comic accurate, just add purple robes, the original glyder some pupmkins and voila, best version of green goblin !! Somehow is better than the green armor.
@Lab-Gr0wn-LambsАй бұрын
something I really liked about No Way Home was that we got to see his face more bc his expressions are fantastic
@SuperEliasboi644 ай бұрын
Honestly while I like the armor better the scraped design actually looks incredibly cool
@Rossi_x72 ай бұрын
Didjeknuh
@cutiepie6796 Жыл бұрын
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER
@RB832069 ай бұрын
Good. Regular green goblin gave me enough nightmares as a kid. 😭
@fivejedis3 ай бұрын
Well I didn't know they were going to have him morph into a Goblin. I always though that it was going to be a mask like the comics and 90s cartoon. I think a good compromise would've been the original Goblin face as a mask so we can still get Dafoes great performance when the mask was off.
@ATR-_9 ай бұрын
Well the original comic did have him turn physically into a goblin.
@DiceonahillАй бұрын
That mask looks sooo good!
@hunterkembel50122 ай бұрын
He didnt need a mask that dude can smile like a mf demon
@cappock1016 ай бұрын
The thing I ever noticed before was at the start of the video when Spider-Man jumps down the man on the side making a cartoony shocked expression 😂😂
@mingavelasquez460815 күн бұрын
It be so cool if he played as The Jóker
@TheOtakuNinja694 ай бұрын
If it wasn’t a physical transformation the mask that they would have made him wear looks more accurate to Green Goblin’s design in the comics.
@Jack-jp6ki5 ай бұрын
I would love to see the goblin suit used in the 1st Spiderman movie wrapped in the symbiote.😱😱
@tsohgallik2 ай бұрын
This would actually work for "Hobgoblin" and an "Ultimate Spider-Man" era 😅
@amandaperry15958 ай бұрын
Oh no the haunted mask from goosebumps is back😭😢😰
@jbktpl12456 ай бұрын
Truth be told, he didn't need it, even in 'No Way Home' he still could make some scary faces. 😅 💀
@Santhosh_Kumar_977 ай бұрын
Green goblin Armor was good❤ !
@Aaron-un4jo4 ай бұрын
Man that would’ve been cool looking, but Spider-Man is iconic