Tuning a Datsun 240Z That Won't Rev

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@joedaly2362
@joedaly2362 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is sharp. He's great at diagnostics, my favorite subject.
@fifteenbyfive
@fifteenbyfive 4 жыл бұрын
Very methodical approach and it yielded a great result. Not only fixed the problem but got some tuning out of the deal. Thanks for sharing. Nice Z too!
@unclejack123
@unclejack123 5 жыл бұрын
I was stationed in Wichita Falls, Texas in 1971 and met a fellow Staff Sergeant who owned a 1970 "Fairlady".....this was the Japanese Datsun 240Z .......the only markings on the car was the script "Fairlady" on the sides of the car (behind the front wheels) ...... it had right hand drive - five speed - and had a race engine of, I believe, 2000cc (none of these options were available in the US)..... He purchased the car in Japan and brought it back on an Air Force transport (not an uncommon occurrence back then)..... really fun car to drive and was a real sleeper ................... ;-p
@leefranklin3054
@leefranklin3054 3 жыл бұрын
Good old fashioned "mechanicing". It was a pleasure to watch this video.
@peterleid5060
@peterleid5060 3 жыл бұрын
1st principles mechanical thinking is a RARE find today - it's also refreshing to hear an American conversant with British terms, like bonnet and boot for example. I'm really gladI found your channel Steve, You are my go-to for car maintenance process. Thank you Sir 💯 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 🇬🇧
@PotatosPotatoes
@PotatosPotatoes 3 жыл бұрын
You fixed my car!!! The guy I just paid to tune my car used those spark plugs. Thanks!
@johnshrader1655
@johnshrader1655 3 жыл бұрын
You make a good learning video. I' ll be watching them all.
@anthonygillesse7242
@anthonygillesse7242 5 жыл бұрын
Had a 510 that I rallied it’s a 240 engine with two cylinders lobbed off. Loved that car. Your tutorials are great.
@georgezeck1396
@georgezeck1396 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you & I really enjoy your videos. You diagnose without throwing parts & hoping it fixes. You are a true mechanic. You make SU’s look easy. Owner of a 64 AH Sprite.
@Icebox240z
@Icebox240z 5 жыл бұрын
If it hasn't already been mentioned...those float bowl overflow/vent hoses are supposed to go into the back of the air cleaner (on a stock airbox, if I'm not mistaken)...those aftermarket air cleaner plates look to have open ports on the back that just need a bung for the hoses to connect to (overflow fuel recirculation into the carb, again, if i remember correctly)...
@alienpoker
@alienpoker 4 жыл бұрын
I run those exact air cleaners on my 240Z, and they work well. Add another nut inside the air cleaner on the long bolts. Done ✅. Also I run the float vents back into the back of the air cleaner. You can put both wires on the same side of the ballast resistor to bypass it. Leave it there, no need to trace out wiring.
@craigwoodfolk3240
@craigwoodfolk3240 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial on how to systematically troubleshoot and problem solve. I especially appreciate how made it easy for anyone to understand.
@endall39
@endall39 3 жыл бұрын
My first car was a '76 280z back in 1980. That car was bullet proof and I loved it. I will watch any video working on a vintage z car because it takes me back to that experience. Although my car had fuel injection, everything else was pretty much the same as the 240 and 260. These were simply awesome cars and should be preserved as much as possible. Thanks for taking care of this nice example!
@672egalaxie6
@672egalaxie6 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 1973 240Z. It was a great running car, but rusty when I got it. That was 1984-1986, and I would love to get another.
@tamzinabraham2457
@tamzinabraham2457 3 жыл бұрын
You are a decent, humble,good person, and it reflects in your work, and passion of doing things the right way , there are very few people like you, thank you so much, people see the goodness in you .👍🚕🔧❤️
@markmichlewicz5141
@markmichlewicz5141 4 жыл бұрын
Good learning video.good refresher coarse for me.i havent worked on anything old in over 30 years.please keep it coming.
@jameshanoomansing1442
@jameshanoomansing1442 5 жыл бұрын
you are very good...my type of mechanic...keep up the good work
@billhunsinger862
@billhunsinger862 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 1992 240Z. At 92,000 miles it developed a coolant head gasket leak that corroded the aluminum head around the 6th cylinder. I had it tig welded and then the shop planned it flat. The original cam and cam towers went back on without needing an align bore! Finally in 1989 the rust fairy took out enough of the subframe members and body sections to send it to the junk yard (:-((. A Brock Spook solved the cross wind sensitivity problem and a dented hood replaced wirh a fiber glass one. Also installed a Delta II CD ignition system. I previously has a 59' MGA and a 61' Austin Healy 3000.
@tedloughrey6068
@tedloughrey6068 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy watching your diagnostic process. Keep it up.
@Split10uk
@Split10uk 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff this. Nice to see someone who knows what they are doing.
@TimNelson
@TimNelson 3 жыл бұрын
Great point. In this day and age with posers, fakes and imposters claiming to be experts about almost anything, it’s refreshing to see someone who knows what the fuck they’re doing. Sadly, this type of extreme competency is rare.
@susanhenderson2322
@susanhenderson2322 3 жыл бұрын
Before any fuel adjustments a basic tune should be performed, valve adjustment comp test , ignition test including vacuum and mechanical advance, you also failed to check carb dashpots.
@noorzaidi220
@noorzaidi220 3 жыл бұрын
Susan anderson # its an old car , acording to the mechanic by replacing the regular plug its run good , and the owner is happy about it .., is it bcoz using the unsuitable plug it lost its rpm ...? The present plug is mainly for car which are using computer .... did you agree on it ...? regards from kuala lumpur.
@timbutton4990
@timbutton4990 3 жыл бұрын
@@noorzaidi220 At higher revolutions the spark was getting snuffed. out, because the wrong spark plugs had been fitted. Older points operated ignition systems are producing 12,000 V at the plug, where as a modern engine management system 30,000 V at the plug. Never handle modern H.T leads while the engine is running!
@sicks6six
@sicks6six 3 жыл бұрын
I drove one of these a long time back when they were new and I was stunned at how good it was compared to what i'd driven up to then, fast, handled well, and looked fantastic, shame Datsun didn't believe in rustproofing cars until they became Nissan, In the UK they had a thin coat of paint on the underside which after a few years did nothing to stop the salt on our roads rotting them away, Never did understand Datsuns lack of rustproofing,
@austinsmith2646
@austinsmith2646 Жыл бұрын
had same issue with mine, replace fuel pump and filter and it worked great
@belizeanboyy
@belizeanboyy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is a great helpful video Steve on the 240z! This issue sounds like something I’m dealing with now on my 72 240z. You really went over each section very well and explained them all carefully. Camera position’s were spot on with being able to follow your instructions! Thanks for making this video!
@JeffLifeInReview
@JeffLifeInReview 3 жыл бұрын
Great diagnosis. I would suggest a quick summary at the end of these type videos as I think you will have a lot of knowledge to drop on us.
@imaluthier218
@imaluthier218 3 жыл бұрын
i love these cars and still want one...I had a '76 280Z 2+2 about 28 years ago, didn't care for the 2+2 option, but even though it had a shoddy suspension, body full of rust (owner lived close to salt water), no A/C or radio, that thing was QUICK!!!
@jeffpurtell5676
@jeffpurtell5676 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your tutorials. I especially like the videos about starting up cars that haven't been run for a long time. I like how you just dig in and start from the most basic, common-sense items, then follow the process very thoroughly till you solve each issue as it emerges. I like how you're not slamming and banging parts and tools and shouting as you work. I have a 1971 Ford that I want to get running. I'll be watching your vids before I start this process.
@6isenough161
@6isenough161 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff and it's so nice seeing someone sticking to the basics 4 strokes of suck,squish, bang and blow. I do Triumphs and so often the problem is so simple. Focus the diagnosis on the technology of the time...
@RCPMK
@RCPMK 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. First car was a 72’ 240Z and had it for many years. Had similar issue with high end fade but was fuel pump. Great video!
@jebus914
@jebus914 3 жыл бұрын
It's wild how much a difference the correct spark plugs can make for your car. I had a supercharged Miata that the previous owner plugs in that were 3 levels colder than stock. Super fouled up but ran ok. I replaced them with one level colder than stock. But now the car misfired on cold starts. After doing some reading I checked the gap and it was 5thousanths too wide. Made a considerable improvement afterwards.
@tommost1
@tommost1 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. As the old saying goes many carburetor problems are really electrical. I was guessing no vacuum advance for a while but I suppose that would still allow it to rev but slower.
@ericdupont1326
@ericdupont1326 5 жыл бұрын
as my first job ( 1973 - 74 ) was in Datsun Fance ( importator ) , I had the pleasure to move the 240Z in the garage . Lovely car ! ! !
@andrewvillanueva4222
@andrewvillanueva4222 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job a talented mechanic.
@kbrickell4732
@kbrickell4732 3 жыл бұрын
When a ballast resistor is fitted there is one 12v lead from the starter solenoid and another from the ballast resistor which reduces the voltage when current flow, so you will have a 7v or 10v coil, so you get a good voltage for starting when you are cranking the engine.
@jeffconley819
@jeffconley819 3 жыл бұрын
Man I got a similar problem. The car idles fine but when I press the gas pedal it stumbles and I have to feather the pedal then the RPM’s will pick up. It doesn’t like pedal inputs at all.
@thomasbrandon8029
@thomasbrandon8029 4 жыл бұрын
another thing to check with those carbs is the floats, since they are rubber and kinda heavy they tend to bend down over time, really the floats are the only thing you need to do with these carbs after they are set right. Also if the car is running points its always good to check the spring for the points if it is weak spark can break up at higher rpm as the points start bouncing around. Another thing is always make sure your engine is running properly before any carb balance/adjustment, these hitachi SU carbs dont need to be adjusted hardly ever, just make sure they are clean, have the right oil and set them on a healthy engine then forget them.
@adZHARRISON
@adZHARRISON Ай бұрын
EXCELLENT VIDEO - Thanks for your time and info
@secretsquirrel726
@secretsquirrel726 3 жыл бұрын
I ran my 280 for about 30 miles with a bad oil pump and it didn't brick the car but it ground down the cam a lot. Even when flushed and repaired, with the old cam points and valves worn down It could never rev and make power like it should. Hope this isn't the issue here and I will keep watching.
@DavoShed
@DavoShed 3 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering what you ended up doing with the Ballast Resistor. Did you bypass it? I’m trying to figure out what multiple mechanics have done with my ignition system.
@pierredecine1936
@pierredecine1936 3 жыл бұрын
I had the SSS intake & 2 SU's on a 1973 610 ... with 1000$ total in the motor - would do high 13 in the quarter mile . It was 18.86 stock ...
@dalamar6228
@dalamar6228 5 жыл бұрын
Great diagnostic work. Looking forward to seeing more work done on that TVR too.
@Walterz930
@Walterz930 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video also can I ask maybe them fuel overflow could lead back to the tank
@davidhostetler2769
@davidhostetler2769 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos. My 18 year old son has a 280zx we are working on , helpful tips.
@timbutton4990
@timbutton4990 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve an excellent informative video, especially for those who've cut their teeth on E.C.U engine management systems.
@isaachofstetter508
@isaachofstetter508 3 жыл бұрын
Please by all means keep them coming I love videos like this
@DennisMurphey
@DennisMurphey 3 жыл бұрын
Well done, detailed analysis and good results. Thank You, Dennis
@mrman17
@mrman17 5 жыл бұрын
Before tuning SU carbs, Ideally, you should remove the dampers in the dashpots and make sure they're not sticking (it's often worth removing and cleaning them anyway), then checking they have the correct amount of oil. Unless there is an obvious issue with the fuel system, carbs should be tuned after any ignition work.
@shanemack06
@shanemack06 4 жыл бұрын
great vid! really straight forward and simplified a lot. thanks!
@samgrissom7274
@samgrissom7274 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your videos. I was hoping that you would show the z on the road test afterwards. I grew up with a 240z.
@alan6832
@alan6832 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think was wrong with that spark plug? I don't think a short would stop the test light from flashing, so busted resistor perhaps? I would expect the non-resistor plugs you put in to interfere with the radio. Did you test the radio with the new plugs?
@kbrickell4732
@kbrickell4732 3 жыл бұрын
I balance carbs by using a hose to the ear and hold the hose by hand against the carburettor at the same distance from the jets on each carburettor
@joshuasutton4043
@joshuasutton4043 8 ай бұрын
I need my 370z tuned to get the speed limiter off have no idea which tune to use etc.
@cheo5673
@cheo5673 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, clear instructions on does and don'ts. Thanks
@tedjohnson64
@tedjohnson64 3 жыл бұрын
Very well made tutorial, subscribed!
@assessor1276
@assessor1276 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work - and well explained.
@stevepope5484
@stevepope5484 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed a skip when you backed out of the hanger./garage
@jasonsykes5993
@jasonsykes5993 3 жыл бұрын
I own the exact same year and model with similar issue. So was the timing bad? Did just replacing the plugs cure the limit on revs? A nice verbal summary conclusion would have been good. Would be good if you explained more in how you sorted the timing. Thank you!
@EvilUnderTone
@EvilUnderTone 4 жыл бұрын
I was taught to tune SUs by ear not with a gauge. All you need is a pipe. Say a heater pipe. Put it to your ear then listen to the noise both carbs are making. Once they sound the same all is good in the world.
@palfab962ify
@palfab962ify 5 жыл бұрын
Great video...informative...practical... thanks
@bigmarkdarula
@bigmarkdarula 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video
@harryburford6629
@harryburford6629 3 жыл бұрын
great job and great car love them do u get any 180 b s in. they were a great car also .hope you can reply
@JamesDavis-to1hn
@JamesDavis-to1hn 3 жыл бұрын
Great diagnostic 👍
@Drvanosdrand
@Drvanosdrand 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video, love the diag ones
@sowedibrahim2540
@sowedibrahim2540 7 ай бұрын
Where can I buy this whole testing kit,we use instinct my country, no tools at all...that is why my car has failed
@stevepope5484
@stevepope5484 2 жыл бұрын
Can I remove water from my bowls Without removing my carbs? Hope it's from ethanol. I start it once in a while/never drive it? Pumped from my fender filter into a measuring cup then milk jug. Maybe palm full of water.but no more. Drain ed 3 times at the tank corner. Maybe 1.5 gal. In all.looked good. They said they lost my stock plug. ??? Created a new drain. Oh well.
@donelmore2540
@donelmore2540 3 жыл бұрын
I worked with a woman in the mid ‘90s who owned a 240Z that was BONE STOCK. It had the original hubcaps and everything. It was orange and, without driving it, appeared to be in fantastic condition. To her credit, she knew what she had and was not willing to part with it. LOL!
@BuilditUK
@BuilditUK 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work getting the engine running, of course now you just have to find something that isn't just rust held together with paint to put it in, haha
@DarkFlamage
@DarkFlamage 3 жыл бұрын
Fixed it, Good job.
@SB-vb8ch
@SB-vb8ch 5 жыл бұрын
Not worth checking that there is the correct amount of a suitable oil in the dashpots?
@fasteddie9475
@fasteddie9475 4 жыл бұрын
True, and make sure it is the correct viscosity.
@MrBeard-ig5zc
@MrBeard-ig5zc 3 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful car. Nice video too
@projectpacer
@projectpacer 5 жыл бұрын
I guess I missed it. Did you remove the ballast completely from the ignition system? Or just check the continuity to confirm you had right ohms?
@ThisWeekWithCars
@ThisWeekWithCars 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I removed it completely from the ignition system but if I remember the tachometer might have needed it to read correctly so the resistor itself was there for the tach only.
@TheSaturnV
@TheSaturnV 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThisWeekWithCars Yes, the bugaboo with upgrading Z-cars' ignition system is keeping the tack working.
@matthewsnyder7950
@matthewsnyder7950 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThisWeekWithCars I wish you would have shown that part, I myself need to do this exact setup.
@Kronaphasia
@Kronaphasia 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThisWeekWithCars The tachs on the early 240's get their signal from the positive side of the coil (BW wire) vs later year Z's the negative. I swapped out my 240Z stock points distributor for a 79 280ZX electronic distributor & an MSD Blaster coil. The ballast resister is completely bypassed by connecting its 2 wires together. This must be done because with the ignition switch in the run position this is the positive wiring. In the start position the ballast is bypassed to give a little extra juice. A positive wire from the coil to the B terminal of the 280ZX distributor box is also needed. Negative wire to the C terminal. Rock solid stable even at 7500 rpm's.
@c.gorgas5277
@c.gorgas5277 2 жыл бұрын
Well presented thank you.
@w.w.2restorations.vehicles698
@w.w.2restorations.vehicles698 3 жыл бұрын
What is that ya got parked on the driver side of that Z? Is that a W.W. 2 Jeep?
@mikehamilton3833
@mikehamilton3833 3 жыл бұрын
A friend had a 240z. I loved driving that car. Handled like my bugeye sprite but a lot faster.
@tahustvedt
@tahustvedt 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful car.
@Birdman1334
@Birdman1334 4 жыл бұрын
I used to use a Unisyne device on my SU's.
@billm83army
@billm83army 2 жыл бұрын
outstanding
@mauriceclemens3286
@mauriceclemens3286 5 жыл бұрын
I’d kill to have a 240Z. Great sports car from before they had to heavy them up with accessories and smog equipment!
@racketman2u
@racketman2u 3 жыл бұрын
Just throw away the awful SUs and throw on triple side-drafts. night and day, the throttle response is transformed, and the weber warble is such a lovely sound! plus without moving parts the damn things stay in tune .
@williamchow1624
@williamchow1624 5 жыл бұрын
Great job, but 1000 rpm idle, isn"t that too high?
@dougmasters3875
@dougmasters3875 4 жыл бұрын
R or no R on the plugs doesn't matter, but whatever floats your boat. Good catch on the coil, some folks don't take the time to read and get the right coil. Pertronix also makes a 1.5 ohm coil if someone just insists on keeping the ballast resistor.
@brdwonder
@brdwonder 3 жыл бұрын
Well what can be said for an import 6 that refused to hold a tune up 10 sec or as far as the curb, whichever came first. It was a beautifully styled car powered by an unreliable engine on a less than average chassis with poor weight distribution. Little wonder that the Toyota 4 cyl Celica could run rings around it. Not to mention a USA pickup truck. I was filling my gas tank at Biggs Jtn.OR On I 84 while on the other pump was a 240Z complete with attitude. We were both E bound He was telling me how he would get to Idaho hours before me. I took it as a challenge and we pulled out tanks full Down the road we went with me in the lead. '71 Chevy farm PU, and for miles across N OR he could get beside but couldn't complete a pass. Gas mileage was apparently similar at over 100 MPH so we both stopped in Pendleton to refuel. He's bragging again........"It's gonna get crooked in the Mts"............I tell him "right" but leaving here there be 6 MI of 6% grade and no way that 6 cyl is gonna beat a 350 Chevy smallblock up that hill. Lost him in my mirrors less than 2 Mi up and never saw him again. Could be he accepted defeat. could be he couldn't catch up. I never took my foot outa the carb till I reached my Baker Or. destination.
@garylarson6386
@garylarson6386 5 жыл бұрын
shouldnt the float bowl vents go back into the fuel tank
@keithmcintosh3446
@keithmcintosh3446 3 жыл бұрын
Blocked exhaust ????.
@roverinosnarkman7240
@roverinosnarkman7240 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks!
@blkferrari355
@blkferrari355 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!! Please give me more. Thanks.
@jonsmith8582
@jonsmith8582 5 жыл бұрын
Good work on a great car
@happyhermit2022
@happyhermit2022 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting thank you 👍
@420peanutty
@420peanutty 5 жыл бұрын
awesome video ...keep things simple
@fasteddie9475
@fasteddie9475 4 жыл бұрын
A very well made video, good troubleshooting skills exhibited, should be an instructor, THX!
@bisniskidcali9998
@bisniskidcali9998 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo sir! 👏🏽
@edcain3676
@edcain3676 5 жыл бұрын
If Needles to Carbs Are Scoured,Repl.Them,Effects Power,According to Another App.on U Tube.If Headers Are Used & Manual Fuel Pump,Gotta Either Wrap Headers or Ceramic Coat Them.Under Reving Power Was A Big 280 Problem W/ Lousy Lucas Ignition Modules.My Former Mech.in ATL.is Udo Kosche,ONE OF BEST INDEP. Older Z Mechs.in So.East..If U DON' T Get It Figured Out.
@michaelluckenbach5513
@michaelluckenbach5513 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos on tuning a 68 Datsun 2000. I have been working on one several years. The carbs have been rebuilt, but I still cannot get the engine to run smoothly and reliably.
@philipgildea8846
@philipgildea8846 3 жыл бұрын
Michael, I had a 68 from 1970 - 78. Absolutely loved that car. Enjoy. Hope you worked out the bugs.
@garyvukich5790
@garyvukich5790 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@garyvukich5790
@garyvukich5790 Жыл бұрын
I’m doing one right now
@loosebolts4537
@loosebolts4537 5 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@johnsargeant4797
@johnsargeant4797 3 жыл бұрын
These are based on an old Ferrari design and easy to convert
@noorzaidi220
@noorzaidi220 3 жыл бұрын
240Z and 280Z is a powerfull engine ...! It can run damm fast.
@adoreslaurel
@adoreslaurel 5 жыл бұрын
Those engines have a strong family resemblance to the non crossflow single OHC Mercedes engines of the period.
@TylerLinner
@TylerLinner 5 жыл бұрын
Wiki says that Prince licensed the design, and of course Nissan would have gotten the rights when Prince (including the hakosuka Skyline) was brought under the Nissan umbrella. Apparently by the time of the merger the engine was changed enough to not warrant licensing. Great sounding engine for sure.
@adoreslaurel
@adoreslaurel 5 жыл бұрын
@@TylerLinner I used to work next door to a car yard back in 63 and that was when I first saw a Prince Skyline GT with Triple Webers, they also had the 4 pot short hood version, same body from the windshield back, It may have been called the Gloria?.
@TylerLinner
@TylerLinner 5 жыл бұрын
@@adoreslaurel Gloria was a different Prince model, but used the same G-series engine back then. Absurdly rare these days, and back then probably the same!
@adoreslaurel
@adoreslaurel 5 жыл бұрын
@@TylerLinner Thank you for that.
@415s30
@415s30 4 жыл бұрын
Ha, I have an early 71 just like that and the same rims. The center caps are awful, I didn't use them. Triple Webers are better!
@SilverWedge
@SilverWedge 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Datsun Z series but their too high priced now.
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