Thomas Baker - Making Color Charts Part 2/3

[@1953maf]

Love your DVD's, I've just paid $600 to go to a colour course and I've learned more from you in the last hour...

[@human6.045]

Your paintings are a credit to you along with your incredibly entertaining, delightful and knowledge sharing videos, thank you Thomas, thank you very much.

[@Goigiy]

This is the most helpful, mystic and funniest painting-vid I`ve ever seen. Thanx a lot to you and your one in a ´vermillion´, lovely daughter ..

[@ashsara9233]

Thomas Baker is great. Fun AND informative

[@murderballad1154]

Agreed.

[@assholishpolish6224]

"you can paint crazy in any color; it takes no real skill" LOL! you're awesome, thomas. that's the quote of the century, or at least of this last half-hour :)

[@salcarusomusic]

Man , you had me crackin' up on the 'mists of time' skit !! GOOD SHOW Thomas & ... Daughter ? Love your work{s}

[@ms.lizzypoulos9276]

OMG....He's the best! I wish he'd come back!!!!

[@barbarataylor6808]

I just found your videos. They are very helpful. I started painting with too many colors and then learned how to mix. I like the color choices you have and the way you made your color charts. I haven't settled on what primary colors I like best so I will wait until I narrow down before I make my charts. Thank you for your wonderful information and knowledge.

[@parrishriddle7945]

Most wonderful way to explain color charts. I always wanted to know about them. Thanks Thomas! I truly enjoyed that video!

[@velazquezbellasartes]

Absolutely wondefull. I also enjoy your sence of humor. Thank You, Thomas.

[@Musicmansteve]

Love your sense of humour.....oh and great paintings

[@thelenar7223]

Mr Thomas I am happy to find your help with colours Thanks.

[@GIJCChS]

Thank you Mr. Baker for the good videos and for the laughs :D :D !!! Beautiful daughter :) Blessings

[@joycewelsh6400]

Thank you, I changed browsers and can now play your video. Can't wait to start my charts.

[@robertciresijr7268]

Berselda Bucklenuts.......lol. Thomas, thank you for these videos! I have been wanting to make some charts for a long time. This is the kick in the butt I needed!

[@tasbatara198]

Thank you so much, Mr. Thomas Baker for sharing. Much appreciated.

[@desistdawdling6737]

I am working on starting color charts and came across your video. I very much look forward to trying out your method. Also, your paintings are magnificent. Thank you so much for sharing your methods - and I promise, the supply companies won't learn that you taught this from me ;)

[@imlizzyjo]

Who knew.. color charts could be entertaining? Excellent information! Thanks!

[@murderballad1154]

haha totally agree !

[@slop-artist408]

Thank you for this. It was entertaining and informative. Time Travel + Oil Painting = Awesome Sauce^2

[@sukhmann6758]

I love the comedy at the end so clever

[@danthompson1m]

This is incredibly helpful - just what I need right now. Thanks!

[@MahaI]

your videos are so amazing

[@gailrees7703]

What fun Thomas your video is informative, and entertaining thank you so much

[@milagrosyadira]

Excelente sus videos y sus pinturas. Muchas gracias!! un saludo desde Venezuela. Muchas gracias!!

[@nadeanm3057]

I don't have eye brows, and you are very AWSOME Thomas. Thank you for your time in teaching about color. Oh FYI: I also have lots of one sided earrings, eight holes, three in the right side, five in my left ear. One on left side nostral, one in belly button. That's all. 😁😆😬😁 😍

[@brucekiefer2209]

Love it! Learning with a smile!

[@Lyndaadlng1]

Does anybody know what happened to this delightful man. So good and such fun

[@gordduncan1756]

Thomas. I just subscribed and am loving your videos. Very instructional. My question is about color charts. What about mixing three colors together?

[@eddiehornedoful]

Good afternoon Mr. Baker, I really enjoy your videos. I'm only beginning to see now that ( I've only been painting for one year) there is a system to the mad mad world of painting. Is there anyway to see the third video on the making of the colors. Thank you.

[@tinfoil777]

Hello Eddie. Sorry you can't view Part 3 of the Color Chart video. There is a KZbin problem with Part 3. Some people (like you) report that they cannot view it, while others say that they can. I have sent KZbin e-mails asking them to look into the problem, but they never respond.

[@nancykressdowney1445]

Fabulous and very funny! I have rekindled my love of oil painting and am starting with the basics. I too think that it makes perfect sense to do color charts. I have found myself very frustrated wasting time and paint. My teacher showed us how to mix purples, blacks, grays and greens and I have done several charts on these mixtures. For my own reference, I would usually mix two colors with each other in varying amounts: equal, and two other mixes with one of the two colors predominating on each side, and then I would add white. How do you handle that in your charts? Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.

[@tinfoil777]

Hello Nancy. I think if you watch Part 3 of this video about color charts it may answer your question. All the mixtures on my charts are about half-and-half of two colors (with some variation because of the transparency of some colors), each mixture lightened up with white in six stages. This creates enough colors to supply most painters with any color they require. I haven't done what you described, that is, varying the proportions of the mixtures before tinting them up, but I would expect that all it would do is show you new ways to create colors that are already found on your half-and-half mixture charts. In other words, I don't think it's necessary to do anything but tint up half-and-half mixtures.

[@WalidFeghali]

Haha, this ending. I have a question: Why buy orange, green and purple when you can mix those yourself? Maybe it will not be any cheaper to mix yourself so you might as well have them from the tube? I paint a lot of landscapes, and I have never bought a green because I always like to mix the greens myself.

[@tinfoil777]

A very good question! You are correct, you don't need to buy orange, green, and purple in the tubes, because you can make them from the three primary colors red, yellow, and blue. And for making color charts, as long as you can mix orange, green, and purple nearly exactly the same each time from the three primary colors, and are willing to take the extra time to do it, you don't need to buy those colors in tubes. But most people don't get consistent mixtures (you are no doubt well aware of how many different greens you can make from yellow and blue). So the advantages to buying orange, green, and purple in the tubes are that they are always exactly the same color out of the tubes, so that your mixtures with other colors are more consistent, plus it speeds up the making of color charts by avoiding the extra mixing to get them. So, let's just say that orange, green, and purple are convenience colors in tubes, especially when making color charts.

[@WalidFeghali]

Thomas Baker Super explanation! Thank you. And thanks for these awesome videos - will definitely get the DVD in the future.

[@baukebottelier9380]

Thomas Baker Question When i look at the red chart, box 2 that's Red+Yellow. This color is exactly the same as the 1th box on the Orange chard (as that's also red+yellow) same goes for the red chart box 3 (red+blue) and the green chart box 1 (red+blue) However looking at the red chart box 3 (red+blue) and the blue chart box 2 (red+blue) who are the same (as should) and comparing those with the violet chart box 1 its a complete different color. wouldn't mixing red and blue as suggested give a complete different outcome on the violet chart?

[@tinfoil777]

Bauke Bottelier Hello Bauke. Are you referring to what you are seeing on your own color charts, or on my color charts in the video?

[@baukebottelier9380]

Thomas Baker Your charts, mine are a complete mess :)

[@Oldmasterspainting]

Hi Thomas! Thank you! It is a great idea!👏👏👏

[@linzertube]

Excellent (and funny) lessons, and thank-you for the link to Google Art Project. I had no idea it was out there. I checked out your website briefly tonight, and look forward to revisiting it again. It looks great (as in, more interesting info, interlaced with humour). Laughter is the best medicine -- not that I need medicine, but, I do love a laugh.

[@tinfoil777]

As someone named M. Poppins used to say, or sing, a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. Thanks for watching my videos and for your kind comments.

[@0929alewis]

These are incredibly helpful and I really appreciate your sharing parts of your DVD for free. I was wondering though, does the DVD have more in depth info on when to choose/mix/etc opaque colors vs translucent colors? This is what I am struggling with. And also would you recommend mixing each of these colors in a chart using 2 of each: cool yellow/warm yellow, cool red/warm red, etc? I truly appreciate your keeping the classical art alive. You are truly gifted. I am a beginner.

[@yonirit8]

Dear Thomas. I think I did not understand you or you made ​​a mistake. Note minutes - 3:30 cube bottom left titled Green has only dark colors in it and not the six colors from which you are making the table, The same are at the Blue & the Violet cube. Am I wrong? Please your help .. Thanks Yoni

[@tinfoil777]

Hello Yoni. The tiny squares of color on those little charts are so small that it's difficult to see what colors they really are, but they are correct. Viridian, for example, is a dark green, so dark that it looks almost black in such a tiny square. Remember that only the first square on the upper left of each chart contains the pure color, just as it comes from the tube. The rest of the squares on each chart are all mixtures of the chart's color with the other colors, and often these two-color mixtures come out very dark, just as you see them on those charts. The color mixtures on the Blue, Green, and Violet charts are mostly quite dark. That is approximately how they will look when you mix them on your charts. If you will follow the procedure shown in the video, your charts will come out fine.

[@charliebell8004]

hi mr Baker love the videos, when is your training video coming out. i'm excited to start studying .PS clicked on the contact us link and was redirected to the Google chrome home page. thanks

[@tinfoil777]

Hi Charlie. I don't know who puts these links here, or where they lead. But I'm glad you like the videos. The DVD on color should be ready soon.

[@suewilliams5465]

Thank You Mr Baker for the information. (I love it that you don't take yourself too seriously!) Your paintings are beautiful. One thing that I can't get my head around. Ok. You take two colors and mix. Then with the addition of white to that mix (in various portions) you can make six additional colors. Ok. Is your end product a value scale for the 2 Main colors, or are they separate colors? that would need their own value scale....so that, you can very the warmth and coolness and intensity? (my background...painted intensely a lifetime ago, set it aside for years and now, picking it up again.)

[@tinfoil777]

Hello Sue. I'm pretty dense, so you'll have to phrase your question another way. I'm not sure what you're asking. What do you mean by "main colors?"

[@suewilliams5465]

Thomas Baker Ok. I'll try again.:) On a chart for Ultramarine Blue. You take the UB and mix it with another color say, Cad. Orange. (2 main colors) This mix of UB and CO creates a third color. Then this 3 rd color is mixed with white from it's darkest tone/value to its' lightest tone/value. So, in effect you are making value charts of the colors that you created. (by mixing UB and CO and then say UB and Viridin. and UB and ? , and UB and ? etc. Am I correct so far? On, the top of your charts you have various new colors/hues which you mixed with just two colors. In your lines beneath you have just different values of these new colors? The reason it's important is that how do you know how to intensity, dull, warm up, cool down etc each new color, that you created using just two main colors?

[@tinfoil777]

Sue Williams Hello Sue. When you tint up the various new colors that you created, you are not only raising the values, but you are creating new colors. Once you have chosen and mixed any of those new colors, and are using them in a painting, you can of course cool them down by adding cooler colors to them, or warm them up by adding warmer colors to them, or dull them down by either adding a little of their complementary color (which kills intensity), or by simply adding a neutral gray to them. To make a color more intense, about all you can do is put it next to its complementary color.

[@dorinases]

Hahaha the ending is hilarious 😅

[@bugisami]

Richard Schmidt suggests charts for each pair of colours. The first mix of X and Y should lean slightly towards X, the second slightly towards Y. You seem to suggest a middle mix. Is that right? How easy/difficult is this in practice?

[@tinfoil777]

Hello Bugisami. If you go with that method, you'll do a lot of extra chartmaking, but that's not a bad thing if you like to do it, or can stand it. I do the "middle mix" as much as possible, but when one of the two paints is more transparent than the other, I add more of the transparent one until I get a definite color change in the other one. It's subjective, I know, but if you establish your own definition of "color change," or make a little note on the color chart showing how much extra of the transparent pigment you used (X2, or 1/3 extra, or whatever) you;ll be fine. I have found that no matter what you do, somewhere on your charts you're going to see the color you want, if not exactly, then very close.

[@bugisami]

Thomas Baker Thanks for the reply, Tom. You ARE an old master.

[@tinfoil777]

bugisami Yes, I guess I am getting pretty old, and my hair is falling out.

[@bugisami]

Thomas Baker LOL. I meant Old Master.

[@tinfoil777]

bugisami Well, I'm an old something, but thanks.

[@deliaaguilarzuani2380]

Me encantan tus tutoriales, los puedo ver una y otra vez, y siempre los encuentro muy constructivos, me gustaría comprar los DVD, pero no soy muy buena con el idioma inglés. Los puedo conseguir en el idioma Español?? vivo en Monterrey, México. Gracias

[@xming3638]

Ohla Delia, Que milargo que te encuentro aqui escribiendo. Me encanta. ...thanks, Edward del Rio

[@deliaaguilarzuani2380]

hahahah, Cómo estás primo???? un beso!!!

[@yonirit8]

Dear Thomas. Okay I got the idea basically any color on the left color is mixed with another color from the top. Thanks again Yoni.

[@tinfoil777]

You're welcome, Yoni. I suggest that you watch Part 3, where just before I make a chart, I explain how the charts are made all over again, while holding real charts. It will probably be easier to see and understand there.

[@migueleduardo6297]

Hi Mr Thomas, I want to know if its possible to use just the primary colors to make the charts, cause its easy to get the secondary colors (green, orange and violet) . .thanks!

[@tinfoil777]

Hello Miguel. Sure, you can do it all with just the three primary colors, since the secondaries are made from them. The only advantage to buying the secondary colors in tubes is that the tube colors are consistent--always the same--whereas your own mixtures may vary a little. Buying the secondary colors is just for convenience and consistency.

[@joycewelsh6400]

Loved your first two color charts video but can't view part 3. it says it's not available in my country (USA)

[@tinfoil777]

There might be a glitch in your browser, Joyce. I'm in the USA and it plays for me. Try again.

[@oqstudio]

Thank you for awesome video! Learn a lot! The eyebrow wasn’t painted on the portrait of the girl with pearl earring because it was not fashionable to have brow at that time… ladies shave them at that time ;)

[@michaelking5091]

I notice you appear to use Ultrich oils. I was under the impression by the lower price that it is more of a student grade as compared to M.Graham. Is the pigment load less?

[@bernadetteolson8074]

Thank you so much!!!

[@lucasfowlerdp]

this is what i needed thank you

[@agfisher007]

Read the book Girl with a pearl earring by Tracy Chevalier..... a great story about Vermeer and how the painting came to be......

[@yonirit8]

Dear Thomas. Thanks again. Yoni.

[@Tomasz3kk]

that's great help, thank you so much

[@thedarkmoonman]

transparent iron oxide red for skin tones, yellow ochre, raw sienna, burnt sienna, raw umber and burnt umber for earth colours.

[@kelleendoyle-scott2164]

I realize you probably don't reply to these comments anymore, but if you do could you tell me how to make a color chart with dry pigments? Also do oils yellow over time?

[@TheBat39]

Berthelda Bucklenuts?!! WHOO HEEEE!!! That is rich! Hahaha!😂🤣 24:33

[@UConceptPublishing]

Lol that was soooo good!

[@pleromicpastry5445]

Groovy!

[@joshuarodriguez177]

When are you going to fix part 3 of the videos!!!!!!!????????

[@tinfoil777]

Sorry. I wish I could. Only KZbin can fix it, but they pay no attention to my requests to do do. Send them a complaint yourself, and see if they answer you. I can't get them to answer me. Some people have told me that they can see the video if they view it with a different device, or with a different browser, so you might try that. That's all I can suggest. It is quite frustrating for everybody, including me.

[@junfun8]

Thomas Baker Its because of the music in the video (UMG). In some countries its not allowed.

[@DG-ri1lp]

Funny guy. You’ve stopped posting ?

[@emilioelchato]

Yogusta la tecnica de este señpr

[@krzysztofhalupka]

thank you

[@tinfoil777]

You're welcome. I hope you found the video useful.

[@shimicruz8759]

so handsome and practic

[@MsCole2552]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@1000000trs]

*I bet you still paint Thomas!* Plz just put a camera behind you shoulder and upload to KZbin so we can watch. You don't even have to say anything. We'd still love it, and we would still learn tremendously - and stick a patreon account there too, so we can pay, and if you don't need the money - you can just send it to charity.

[@thedarkmoonman]

hello

[@rhyannonp8231]

lol

[@warpussnoluv]

Cewl xD

[@GnaReffotsirk]

The mists of time... Rofl

[@foxyrollouts]

lol

[@tummins]

@theundrapedartist

[@warpussnoluv]

Cewl xD