Thomas Matthew Crooks' former guidance counselor says "it didn't register" at first

The former guidance counselor of Bethel Park native Thomas Matthew Crooks, the would-be Trump assassin, says he was shocked to hear about the shooting. KDKA-TV's Mamie Bah has more.

[@KlokLogic]

People need to open their eyes this is highly plausible that he had no help mentally guidance counselors rarely do their job at all

[@user-tp3rs6qs8w]

No public school teacher/counselor/administrator ever sees anything!!! That's why bullying goes on and on and on. Shame on them!!!!

[@0DexTerMAN]

How to Stop Being the Victim Take responsibility. You are the only one who controls your actions.

[@ericantone8709]

Theyre paid like 40k a year, lol. If they show up thats good enough

[@daveburrows9876]

@@0DexTerMAN When you've been victimized, were you responsible for that? He's not around to play the victim here nor to take the responsibility. I get your point, that having been victimized is not an excuse and it isn't. But if we're looking for an explanation for why he did it, extreme bullying is the most likely cause I've heard so far. There doesn't seem to be much if any political motivation, and he wasn't part of any extremist groups.

[@Andrina-fl9ef]

​@@0DexTerMANI'm sure you practice what you preach.

[@321zxc]

no one talks to their teacher or counselor about bullying. they dont even talk to their parent about it. what makes you think they will talk to a random about it.

[@krw5723]

Dude this guidance counselor is just showing how BAD AND TERRIBLE he was at his job. "I didn't see him bullied so he wasn't bullied!" No, you don't know your students and you're self involved. How could a COUNSELOR think he knows if a child was bullied better than the kids watching it go down 😂

[@XenonLover52]

Anyone who has dealt with therapists and counselors before is not shocked to see how useless they were in this case.

[@DanielZielke-t8s]

The only good thing to come out of school guidance counseling sessions is that paycheck the "therapist" gets to cash on payday.

[@toddferguson6369]

A guidance counselor doesn't remember a student from 2 years ago in a small town? Show me one political nut with no computer history

[@EvilestMinion]

I would not consider this a small town

[@bipolarbear7325]

Even weirder is the fact that he keeps the notes and pictures of students from years ago.

[@toddferguson6369]

@@bipolarbear7325 good catch. The people they have interviewed have provided few details and honestly give me the creeps. Like they are aliens with a human disguise. And the media doesn't question their stories. The Devil is real and everywhere apparently

[@jabbajawz]

​@@bipolarbear7325It's not weird at all. These notes are recorded in the student information system and are digital.

[@jabbajawz]

It's NOT a small town. It's a suburb of Pittsburgh. Its basically Pittsburgh. I know, I live in Pittsburgh and used to work in Bethel park.

[@lynnmckenna9934]

1. Counselors are NOT supposed to discuss their clients with the general public. Even after the death of a client 2. Counselors should know that bullying does NOT usually occur in the presence of the school guidance counselor! Common sense. This guidance counselor is acting in a way which is incompetent and unprofessional.

[@daveburrows9876]

Totally agree with his unprofessionalism. But why did he even still have those notes? Shouldn't those have remained part of the school record? How did he have access to the kid's attendance record 2 years after he retired and two years after the kid graduated? I hope someone does some digging about this oblivious retiree, but how benevolent of him to have taken the time away from his vacation to answer the journalist's questions.

[@lynnmckenna9934]

@@daveburrows9876 you make excellent points about the notes and access to attendance records! And, you also make an excellent point about how “benevolent” of him it was to take time out from his vacation! Even though he’s retired and kind of always on vacation!

[@velvetypotato711]

I think your confusing guidance counselor with licensed therapist

[@lindasaldano239]

I'm a sub teacher. Correct.

[@lynnmckenna9934]

@@velvetypotato711 guidance counselors are also licensed by the state and must follow the rules of client confidentiality.

[@SSTT0315]

If the classmates say “he was bullied”, he was bullied. Kinda shocked the counselor didn’t have the self awareness to realize “wow I can’t believe I missed that when he certainly needed help” and instead went on TV to say “nuh uh hE hAd pERfecT aTTeNdaNcE!!!”

[@Cuttatv]

Whatever helps you sleep at night

[@BerryBerry1465]

The bullying was hidden. It always is. Unless a person tells someone or witnesses it, it remains a secret. The kids at school know.

[@daveburrows9876]

@@BerryBerry1465 That's partially true. It's also true that adults see way too much of it and it becomes unimportant to them. It only takes looking at a picture or two of this kid to know that he would have been bullied. If his counselor cared, he'd have pursued that with the kid. Educators know too.

[@april789787]

The fact that he's talking to the news about confidential information should signal that he's not professional or ethical. I'm doubting he's licensed

[@daveburrows9876]

@@april789787 I'm also wondering if he currently has access to the school computer records. If I were a parent in or employee of that school district, I'd be at the next school board meeting to expect answers about how he was allowed to access that information.

[@fox963]

I disagree with the statement that a victim of bullying likely misses several days of school. Some students may handle bullying by trying to avoid the situation and stay home from school. However, there are also many students who are bullied that come to school every day and continue to take the "punishment" because they feel they have no one to confide in.

[@daveburrows9876]

The former guidance counselor had no business addressing the bullying problem of a former student he didn't even remember until looking at his notes and a picture. Shouldn't those notes have remained part of the school record, and not his? Regardless, basing his opinion about the bullying on the shooter's attendance record that he shouldn't even have had access to is absurd.

[@JamesVestal-dz5qm]

Not everyone who gets bullied misses days. I didn't miss a day in Kansas.

[@Man-From-Another-Place]

His classmates say he was bullied, but this counsellor didn't notice anything. What an insightful and perceptive man!

[@SRose-vp6ew]

We had a few kids like that, but they found Jesus and turned their life around. One kid went off to a tiny Christian school. Another kid, a trenchcoat wearing long-haired graduate who had cloth Band-Aids on their arm, and I didn’t know what that meant when I would talk to him, came back after he left highschool, I was younger, and he said this one talk we had after school really helped him not to die and he came back to thank me. I was a little freshman or sophomore Christian, learning my Bible when I talked to him not knowing what wrist and arm bandages might mean. I was far from perfect, but I just showed him completely platonic love as an acquaintance and pointed to Jesus not even realizing how very important that was for him to have done for him. He didn’t get better because of my kindness, but my willingness to love him enough to bluntly point him to God and pray. The man in Mark five had problems, but he knew to run to Jesus. Sometimes, when something alerts us, we need to be brave enough to point people to Jesus and pray.

[@321zxc]

the video we have seen looked like he was getting bullied.

[@TedD94]

Guidance counselors are people too. Quit the holier than thou bs

[@Man-From-Another-Place]

@@TedD94 A lot of social workers have simply done the training but have no real insight.

[@TedD94]

@Man-From-Another-Place in many states a social worker license is different from a guidance counseling degree so the credentialing and job duties are just different

[@waynethegreat23]

That guidance counselor looks like someone who wouldn't recognize a kid being bullied lol

[@MAX-de8fe]

public school guidance counselors are terrible.

[@erikas.1303]

Agreed

[@kewlstuff3715]

There is a video of a female classmate that said she never saw any bullying either and that he did have a few friends.

[@filrabat1965]

Nicknaming him "the school shooter" may have been a self-fulfilling prophesy. You treat people like garbage based on looks or oddities, you increase the odds of them lashing back. By contrast, you treat people kindly and look past unappealing but only superficial aspects of their personhood, you block off one motivation for engaging in armed violence. It's not rocket science, people.

[@manhalen7046]

Exactly. The level of sheer ignorance and stupidity on display is unreal. This whole gdamn thing is just sad. Its sad that this kid felt that the world had no place for him in it and so he "revolted", right? It then enrages me to hear about this kids story and people then say "how could he DO a thing like this?!?!?". Its because you werent gdamn paying attention, thats why.

[@formerlyfromthefuton8171]

But he didn't become a school shooter. 🤷‍♂️

[@manhalen7046]

@@formerlyfromthefuton8171 Are you effing serious?

[@HSBsoulsurfer]

​@@formerlyfromthefuton8171Get real.

[@Quinnsek]

I was severely bullied all throughout school. Every time I tried to hit back, my arm would just flop because I didnt really want to hurt anyone. I finally snapped at someone one day in middle school after the teacher wouldnt stop a bully from talking badly about my friends/girlfriend, and just that one event made everyone go from treating me like an easy target to labelling/treating me like a potential school shooter.

[@BS-dq1kz]

I’m sorry that happened to you. I’m so ashamed of the parents out there today. No most do not spend enough time talking to their kids about being kind.

[@kevinokief4191]

There was bullying going on….lets be real

[@nenej12]

I agree

[@justaguy-69]

other female student said no bullying he was just average kid

[@bluewater5620]

⁠@@justaguy-69saw that interview but she didn’t talk To him that mucn .

[@kewlstuff3715]

There is a video of a female classmate that said she never saw any bullying either and that he did have a few friends.

[@mtc-j9i]

School guidance counselors aren’t therapists. They help you pick your classes, chat about attendance and behavior if needed, and make sure you graduate on time. Each guidance counselor can have as many as 500 students to routinely check up on. There are no counseling sessions going on. They really should be renamed “advisors,” like in college….because that is what they do.

[@HOTTIUSMAXIMUS]

So because the guidance counselor says he never witnessed any bullying, well, then, obviously, that must mean that it never occurred. Sarcasm on for those who can’t see it.

[@kristinebarbaree2697]

His high school nickname was “school shooter” ?

[@AustrianOfficer]

yes, its a common nickname in high-school nowadays for someone who is a loner and dresses in a funny way, especially if they have their hair in their face.

[@officialtoastyy]

That’s pretty messed up , they used to call me “ Pedro” from napoleon dynamite…

[@RealisiticEdgeMod]

@@officialtoastyy vote for pedro

[@yeoldeseawitch]

@@AustrianOfficer Yeah I looked alot like crooks too, lol. People most definitely thought I was a "shooter" type they just didn't say anything about it.

[@HasselDaHoff25]

I got bullied wasn’t a shooter and am perfectly fine but if I could go back and confront each bully now I would just to laugh at their pathetic lives

[@marby]

Thomas’s lived with two licensed counselors and had a counselor at school. Lesson is: counseling doesn’t work! 🤦‍♀️

[@Pk-io6xe]

Hos parents were social workers and school counselors just make sure you graduate/get proper credits....

[@daveburrows9876]

@@Pk-io6xe The parents are behavioral therapists. Guidance counselors are burned out former teachers whose primary concern is retirement.

[@trollman5593]

Lesson is the fbi told him to do what he did

[@Kazzerp]

Not unless you speak out that you need help. He probably didn’t say anything to them.

[@slaws2279]

Some people don’t accept help.

[@A-Nonnie-Mouse]

Stellar levels of competence all around.

[@brianjemison5265]

How does how many days u went to school determine if u bullied. The students are the ones who know. Everybody dont spill there life to guidance counselor.

[@BerryBerry1465]

In the video where a classmate is tugging at his pants, he says "Stop it" 4 times . Just because he's smiling while they're doing it, doesn't mean he's okay with it.

[@juditrotter5176]

My experience is a Guidance Counselor is mostly interesting in getting people graduated. In our school district each Counselor has about 400 students and the worst technology in the world keeping track of each student’s classes etc. If kids are calling someone “School shooter “ in a school of over 1000 kids, I don’t know how they would know it.

[@Andrina-fl9ef]

The school will never admit bullying happens unless you have the incident on camera. This is why so many parents are homeschooling.

[@chicchi19771]

As someone from B.P., this is ridiculous. Not only did students report that he was bullied, he was nicknamed the school shooter, and one of the kids talking about how he was bullied, was one of the biggest bullies in the school. It’s as if there are consequences to Bethel Park’s School Board being adamantly opposed to anything that promotes diversity and empathy training. This is EXACTLY the type of school that breeds a school shooter and it could have been so much worse.

[@valathor95]

Any councilor who ever says there was no bullying is completely incompetent.

[@Registered_Democrat]

Cut it out. He had graduated from high-school 2 years prior.

[@mtc-j9i]

Exactly lol. What has he been doing the past 2 years and why are we talking about high school???

[@drlobomalo]

He just got a two-year engineering degree two months ago from a local community college. Tell us why you can't talk to anyone there. If his life was destroyed by high school bullying (so implied in this story) how did he go on to complete a two-year technical degree?

[@daveburrows9876]

I'd like to know more about the last two years also, but bullying doesn't end in high school, and neither do the effects of it. When you see this kid, you just know he had a rough time of it socially. I'm not using that as an excuse, but if we're looking for what motivated him, this is more likely than anything else I've heard. He also had his scope trained on Biden event places and dates. It's not likely he was politically motivated. He isn't yet known to have been part of any extremist groups, though I don't know anything about how they find stuff in the dark web. It looks like a very disturbed, rage-filled kid, who felt rejected by a world who bullied him and he struck back. Again, not an excuse, but a likely reason. The moral of the story for the rest of us is don't bully, and teach your kids not to bully.

[@Allen-yv3ue]

I think the 'Kid' was very shelf centered ( and was bored with life) - hay, look at ME and see what I did !!!

[@daveburrows9876]

Does this two-year retiree still have access to the school computer system, even while on vacation? How did he know Crooks' attendance record, access his notes about his former student as well as his photo, while he was vacation?

[@pernilladomander7648]

Good catch!

[@MartinAston00]

Kids calling him “school shooter” 🤦🏾‍♂️…yeah as if that didn’t provoke him at all 🙄…SMH

[@theelephantintheroom69]

Just because you don't skip days doesn't mean you're not bullied, wtf?

[@manhalen7046]

Some of these people act like they were never teenagers.

[@dorothymartin8557]

Publish his more current picture!

[@mezoaro]

He would've only been 2 years older, it's practically the same

[@officialtoastyy]

There isn’t any , that’s why they haven’t posted any

[@jennywakeman3267]

His current picture is just him with long hair, a slight underbite, sitting near the grass.

[@HSBsoulsurfer]

​@@officialtoastyynot true- he worked at a nursing home. They make you wear a tag of your name and pic snd keep it on file as well. The employer has his current pic but we're not seeing it.

[@TinaGillispie-s7x]

One report claims he was an A/B student who was good in math and science. Had a small group of friends. Neighbor saw MEGA signs in the family lawn. I never heard about other sibblings or his relationship with his parents. He was smart enough to know if he went through with this plan, he would die.

[@Dave-fc4kq]

counselor is completly avoiding scrutiny by the public and media by announcing "no bullying" . otherwise the school would be facing some scrutiny on bullying. Its protocol for them to deny and protect school administration. This is normal protocol

[@TomBTerrific]

Why cut off the counselors statement. I wanted to hear him not some ignorant journalists?

[@maryjohnson1890]

This is all a waste of time. I noticed at the beginning of this episode reporters tried to talk to the gunman's father. The authorities shut Daddy gunman up real quick! Never heard from him again. Something is rotten in Denmark as they say

[@mmstrux]

CNN's Jim Acosta just interviewed this counselor and he rambled about religion, and how "evil" got Crooks, and something about evil between the two candidates. [facepalm]

[@user-kd9ui9cv1z]

In high school I was never spoke to by teachers, counselors or principle. Not even once. I was invisible. Today at 65, multimillionaire, ran my own company and sold it. Worked my way thru college. Results count.

[@DanielZielke-t8s]

And just WHAT -- of any value -- did this man have to disrupt his day and "look back" over old pictures and notes so he could get on camera and save the day with his revelations? He should be enjoying his retirement and forget all about "back in the day" when he gave "counseling & guidance" to kids at Bethel Park who are barely a memory and were all very likely "misdiagnosed" with this or that mental disorder to account for his time and paycheck at the school.

[@Ladysalvador]

Why are they only showing a picture from when he was a kid??? He was 20 longer in school. Why are they not showing a recent photo of him??

[@Udhjfifg5]

I think they sent this councilor in for his great public relation skills, the school was worried about lawsuits.

[@d.n.8919]

Schools have an issue with only flagging kids with externalizing behaviors while ignoring kids with internalizing behaviors. The kids who are quiet and depressed don’t get noticed .

[@jfitzsimmons4825]

Typical gun for hire profile. Where did the $ in the three accounts come from?

[@rhettlee]

Probably the worst counselor ever, kid never got over the bullying that “didn’t happen”. 🤦‍♂️

[@jackscruggs1536]

If you can remember when the news was interviewing the Columbine students after their shooting kids said those kids were bullied also. They actually said they couldn't believe it took them that long.

[@jolee6531]

Other students said he was not bullied. You might want to look into that.

[@cathyw7067]

Release his phone calls and media activity! Why did parents call the police about their missing son??? I thought he told his workplace he’d be back??? What did the parents know???

[@PamMinnick]

They called him in missing before the shooting even, he hadn't been gone long enough to be missing and he's a 20-year-old man, not a 2-year-old child. They knew something.

[@daveburrows9876]

@@PamMinnick His father let him use the war machine to practice shoot at a nearby range. The kid drove to the event, a 1 hour's drive, then wandered around arousing suspicion for some time that afternoon. It's reasonable to think the dad grew concerned when the kid didn't get back when he would have been expected, maybe even went to the range to find he was never there that day, then called in the report. I don't know this, I'm just conjecting, but as a parent, I can imagine behaving that way... if I were the sort of dad to loan my kid a thing like that.

[@kristinebarbaree2697]

@@daveburrows9876 and the parents called 911 after their grown son had been gone 3 hrs ? That is bizarre . I can see it if he didn’t come home all night

[@daveburrows9876]

@@kristinebarbaree2697 I hope you're pretending to be more obtuse than you really are. Nothing bizarre about it. They called when their son with a war machine didn't return home when expected. To have done less would have been irresponsible of them. When would you have finally called?

[@kristinebarbaree2697]

@@daveburrows9876 that fact that the parent called after 3 hrs kind of makes me think they knew something wasn’t right . And war machines ? I’m not going to get into a gun debate but I live in the south and I’m betting that most people I know have an armory at their house .

[@user-sf5iq2fl1l]

Why they didint show the man talking? Why youtube is censoring everything?

[@Evine29]

CBS has crap editing in Pittsburgh. Sometimes programs start and are muted for nine seconds.

[@reversalmushroom]

Stop using all 3 names. Just call him "Matthew Crooks".

[@annhenry1226]

no one knew him especially the guidance counselor. welcome to Pennsylvnia

[@chicchi19771]

It still infuriates me that students were denied the right to form a GSA, but the RIFLE team still exists?! I graduated in 96 and I thought it crazy that we had a rifle team then, but to still have one today in this age of school shootings…? BPHS used to be a one of a kind 8 building campus, but was converted to a one building H.S., because wait for it… the threat of school shootings, but it’s OK to train them…Crooks’ didn’t make the team and was told to never try out again because it was dangerous since he was such a bad shooter. Tax payer dollars could have easily been used to train a domestic terrorist, and yet the BPSD has said nothing. No change necessary. But hey, did you know that we are a Blue Ribbon School of Excellence…? Maybe all of that focus on academic excellence should be accompanied by discussions on empathy, kindness, and responsibility.

[@williamwells1862]

Yeah so many schools let bullying go on. Sick.

[@user-zy1sx3gk9z]

Too much BS coming out. Ignore all these people!

[@BillOtinger]

Was Shooter MkUtra?? they ssay he had 3 overseas bank accounts

[@karenvanderwall6684]

We want to know how the ladder got to the building. It’s amazing how a suspicious person wasn’t approached immediately. Cops are ALWAYS stopping people for being suspicious and many times are arrested and shot

[@craigsurette3438]

This kid was not an impulsive hot head. He was full on crazy, but intelligent and as thorough and meticulous a planner as a crazy person can be. Chances are he knew what to tell the guidance councilor to not put up any red flags.

[@Paula-ps1vi]

I know Donald was the former president. However, I continue to be disgusted by the lack of respect for the guy that actually lost his life!😢

[@Letsvgetreal]

Why wasnt The Counsellor allowed to finish

[@waynewayne9693]

Whoever wrote this garbage must be a high school dropout! 🤦‍♂️ “He didn’t miss a single day except one” or “Crooks councilor didn’t see any signs of bullying and noted Crooks only missed a single day while a senior and in his opinion Crooks would have missed more if being bullied.”

[@american636]

They need to check momma and daddy's social media.

[@danaalexander5211]

Show more of the interview, please, than the reporter's paraphrase

[@479scamp]

Why do the keep showing pics if him as a kid, in School, letsxsee this ADULTS Drivers license photo....his work ID...this gives cover-up vibes...

[@Freelancer2311]

Seemed like crooks loved being at school.

[@niltomega2978]

Often "bullying" is kids trying to get an oddball kid to act more normal so they can have a better life.

[@Evine29]

Is that comment related to this video? He was nicknamed the school shooter.

[@niltomega2978]

@@Evine29 Yea i think my comment relates. The kid was an oddball and often "bullying" is just other kids trying to get an oddball to act right.

[@mikusoxlongius]

Guidance Counselors ruined my life, too.

[@SirTrollerDerby]

Someone should write a book about all the kids who found their guidance counselors to be useless, as I did, and actually harmful, as you did.

[@grl9917]

Mine was awesome. Just luck of the draw.

[@eveelane2806]

Counselor has much responsibility for kids being bullied. I believe he is a liar. Students said that he was bullied ‼️

[@alexmbiocjr9962]

Wtf why cut him off like that.

[@johnpew6846]

I am concerned that revealing information about a client, past or present, might constitute an ethics violation. Counselors are bound by professional codes of ethics, such as those from the American Counseling Association (ACA) or the American Psychological Association (APA), which mandate the protection of client privacy and confidentiality. Publicly disclosing client information without consent can result in legal consequences, loss of professional licensure, and damage to the counselor's reputation.

[@daveburrows9876]

He's been retired for 2 years. Does he really still have access to the school district records? This counselor (?) even knew the kid only missed 1 day of school his senior year, then used that to deny the possibility that the kid was bullied. This story is just jaw dropping, and the journalists seem to be missing it's significance.

[@johnpew6846]

@@daveburrows9876 I am unsure about this case, but it raises ethical questions regarding the confidentiality shared between the client and counselor. Most of us would probably not want a counselor sharing our personal information with the public. If I understand correctly, the counselor still has notes related to their sessions. Such notes should be securely stored to ensure confidentiality. If any mental health professionals are reading this, please feel free to share your views/expertise on the matter.

[@PamMinnick]

The shooter wasn't a client, he was a student at that school.

[@johnpew6846]

@@PamMinnick The following is from the American School Counselor Association: "The school counselor is responsible for fully respecting a student's right to privacy and providing an atmosphere of trust and confidence" (ASCA, 2022).

[@user-rr4so1st5d]

He is dead...tried to assassinate a former president, killed 1 person and seriously injured 3. He no longer has rights, it is justice to get ALL the information from EVERY source available without prejudice.

[@stare-n-aaron9806]

All this talk about they only showing his high school pictures why don't they look at some camera footage from some stores or the place that he worked grocery stores gas stations anything like that where they can get an up-to-date picture of him

[@VassanaPranbun]

He wasn't outside the security perimeter! He was 130 meters away!

[@williamoleary1410]

What about the guidance counselor of the guy standing on the water Tower

[@SirTrollerDerby]

My high school days were half century ago. But at the time, teachers and other school officials were amazingly oblivious to the bullying that went on. Hopefully, that has changed and this gentleman knows what he's talking about.

[@Freelancer2311]

Things have changed.

[@chicchi19771]

Knapp is clueless.

[@alicemattsen2208]

Too bad you cut the interview short. I’m all for listening to those interviewed instead of listening to someone repeat the facts. We can’t trust news media anymore.

[@Patrick-yh5yd]

Crooks was like SID in Toy Story cartoons. He was pure evil.

[@DavidMcdonald-df8tb]

Very poorly done report. Presenter and editing was awful

[@theoaguilar1941]

Manchurian Candidate?

[@niltomega2978]

Both of Matthew Crooks parents were counselors? They didn't see any red flags with their kid? How can his parents help people they see at appointments when they could not even see the problems with the kid they lived with?

[@moonoggin]

Why did you cut off the counselor?

[@kensato2974]

Why they don't understand that ders really bullying?wake up America

[@justamanevaluatingstuff2078]

outside the security area???? he shot from the building the security was posted inside.

[@justinlevy274]

They mean outside of the area where you'd have to go through a metal detector. ie outside of the venue grounds.

[@amysmith3247]

A lot of kids don't report anything because they are afraid of retaliation!! But teachers should have looked at him closer and ask questions! Sometime you have to go to kids nowadays to get answers out in order to help them..kids will not say anything. And it's a shame that kids called him school shooter but didn't offer to report him or help him. Not condoning anything but you can clearly see there's something missing in his eyes. Shame

[@rocket8351]

Judging by many comments, being bullied is an excuse for shooting someone?

[@HSBsoulsurfer]

Never an excuse, but a cause. It affects a person's mental health.

[@sladeoriginal]

bullying means you skip school? Teachers really this dumb?

[@velvetypotato711]

A guidance counselor's main job is to make sure you're ready for college. While it's possible that they can consider your emotional well being, unless your well-being is causing your grades to suffer there is no real reason for a counselor to investigate you. They are not a therapist.

[@anthiaa32]

Completely useless piece. No info whatsoever.

[@Evine29]

At least we acknowledged the counselor is aware of the shooting. You’re right, that info isn’t helpful to anyone.

[@ktbdw2403]

Love it when the guidance counselors think they know who gets bullied in their school, like they're the omnipotent God. Give me a break.

[@TerryTerryTerry]

He didn’t ’know’ him at all - didn’t even remember him.

[@gasdorficmuncher9943]

cut off interview ?? guidence guy?

[@jamesdeluca6657]

Look to his parents, they are the key

[@justaguy-69]

the other student interviewed said he was not bullied and just a normal kid

[@DouglasF68]

Same old story.😢

[@AndyA1234]

Why didn't you just let the video roll to hear his mentor tell us himself that Crooks was not bullied? This is what leads to people being cynical of News reports. If he said it, let's hear him say it, not you recounting his words.

[@user-kd9ui9cv1z]

Kids parents always told him what he “should” be. Never let him figure it out on his own. As an adult he was lost so he kept doing what his parents taught him: Listen to others tell him who he is and what he should do. It didn’t end well did it Mr. and Mrs. Crooks. Those PhDs you earned aren’t worth much in the real world are they?

[@ritchiebonneson3819]

What did all of his notes say what medication was the kid on alot of the mental illness with people and guns are pills

[@jaysonj9327]

For a 20 year old semi-rural snowflake without any military or law enforcement training whatsoever he seemed to have morphed into a combination of James Bond, Ethan Hunt and Jason Bourne last Saturday in Butler. Hmmm.

[@DolphinWithIgloo-fg3ow]

It's as if he could use his intelligence to get everything he needed off of this world wide web thing. I doubt a loner would start going to some some secret fin-foil hat meeting and actually mingle with others.

[@Metachief_X]

Dude so true!!! Crooks did the unthinkable

[@Enigma_412_Mom]

uh dude, bethel park is not semi rural in the least. we are suburban, 15 minutes south of the city of pittsburgh. hardly rural. we aren't 84 pa or cecil pa

[@scorpiointuitive6034]

​We have more han that. Bethel Park is a bigger Municipality.

[@zoneout00]

I wouldn’t say he had no training. He had an AR, & he knew how to use it.

[@judypham-vk6ui]

Rooks 20 years old have 3 foreign account? Why?

[@anneearley6328]

I taught for 13 years in high school. To be aware of bullying you have to leave the classroom and the teacher's lounge. Most teachers don't even consider stepping into the hallway and observing what's going on much less doing something about it.

[@AndyA1234]

A video reportedly showing Crooks being bullied is posted. He's laughing as one of his classmates pulls his trouser leg as they're playing around. Stop misinforming the public.

[@mrh6414]

How did a 20-year-old get bombs?

[@daveburrows9876]

The dark web has detailed information about how to make them from materials that are easily obtained locally.

[@justinlevy274]

The first rule of fight club is...

[@phoenx333]

I think I tend to believe his classmates more than his teachers/counselors more. I think they're more aware of what's going on.