Thomas Sowell - Fallacies of Race

[@DrR1pper]

" _Some things are believed because they are demonstrably true but many other things are believed simply because they have been asserted repeatedly_ " - What a quote.

[@nobad6134]

+DrR1pper Nothing special there. Obvious as hell.

[@mycattitude]

+DrR1pper The other things asserted repeatedly that are believed are marxist ideology that's been unleashed on society and festers and infects the media and education systems.

[@gmensah2008]

+DrR1pper that's actually pretty stupid. 1. If something is demonstrably true, and there's evidence for it, you don't need to believe it, since it's a fact, you just know it to be true. I don't need to believe in something I know, that's redundant: If I know it's raining, do I need to believe that it's raining? How is that belief adding to my knowledge? 2. Something is believed simply because it has been asserted repeatedly. That's what a belief is, something that has been repeated enough times that it has become truth-like, i.e dogma, traditions, beliefs, ideologies, and other cognitive phenomena that are based on the confusion between causation and correlation. If I pray for rain, and enough times that I prayed it rained, without any prior understanding of precipitation and weather pattern, I would be tempted to believe that praying can make it rain. He didn't say anything insightful. I don't know how this got so many likes, it only sounds smart to somebody dumb.

[@DrR1pper]

Gareth Mensah " _1. If something is demonstrably true, and there's evidence for it, you don't need to believe it, since it's a fact, you just know it to be true. I don't need to believe in something I know_ " - Based on my understanding of how knowledge and belief relate, i do not agree with your assessment. If i am not mistaken, knowledge is a subset of belief. You do not need to know something is true in order to believe that it is true (though it would be preferable ofc lol). *However* to claim to know something specifically implies you also believe that said specific something is true/exists. " _If I know it's raining, do I need to believe that it's raining? How is that belief adding to my knowledge?_ " - I think i address this in the above but to reiterate with your example, to *know* that it is raining is to imply that you must also *believe* that it is raining (regardless of whether you are consciously thinking or affirming to another about your state/level of belief in whether it is raining or not). Why is this true? Well, would it make sense or is it even possible to claim to know something and not believe it to be true/exist at the same time? I at least cannot think of an example. If you can, i would love to hear it. " _He didn't say anything insightful. I don't know how this got so many likes, it only sounds smart to somebody dumb._ " - Fucking hell, lol. Condescending much? My initial comment quoting him with me ending it by saying " _what a quote_ " was simply me affirming my admiration for the way he put it so elegantly (imo). I wish i had such a way with words as he does. But if you think i'm dumb, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion and you can believe what you want. lol. Fyi, not that it matters ofc but i happen to hold a first class masters degree with honors in aerospace engineering. I have at least one other friend from uni who went on to get their PhD despite being quite dyslexic and no doubt you would most probably accuse them of being dumb if you saw them type a comment on youtube. I think it's kinda of a shame that you're so quick to judge a book by it's superficial covers...actually you've not even done that....by analogy you've misunderstood and misrepresented the cover entirely. Anyways.....dumb fuck (i.e. me) signing off. Have a good day/night. :)

[@DrR1pper]

Gareth Mensah Btw, (scientific) facts are nothing more than bits of reported/confirmed observations and reported/confirmed observations can still be falsified because 99.99% of the time it is coming from someone else or some group of someone else's (.e.g a consensus). Neither of these sources are infallible. Heck neither are you if it were you doing the confirming/observation. We are all capable of making mistakes. My point is, when you accept some fact (which to reiterate is nothing more than a piece of reported/confirmed observation) to be true, you are necessarily also *believing* that it is true. But like i said in my previous comment, if you think i'm wrong i would love to hear your thoughts.

[@Beauweir]

As a black British man raised by an afro carribbean mother who was the top of her field in the 80s and 90s, and who taught all her children that education and personal responsibility is the way forward I love what Thomas Sowell has to say. Well done sir!

[@edwardburroughs1489]

***** The "overt" racism that is all in your imagination you mean?

[@robertmitchell8630]

Beauweir You Trini or Jamaican? my family came from Trini lived in Deptford

[@od1401]

I agree with you mate, and it is sad to see people indeed here in the comments are ignorant to the grander notion you are pointing out. Don't mind them.

[@JUDALATION]

@SteveSbc406 WHAT? So when Blacks are zoned for bad schools and never get a good teacher throughout their entire education then it is a individual basis?

[@TheAsa1972]

@Mr. R Well why is Black on Black crime so high

[@MyKill71]

"Racist may prefer one race to another...., but they prefer themselves, to everybody ELSE.!"- T. Sowell, has some EXCELLENT quotes.!

[@amatrex]

Indeed, when you think about this quote, it makes perfect sense. A great example of this concept can be applied to the NFL. The vast majority, if not all, of the 32 current team owners are older, white men. it's unlikely any of those white billionaire owners in their 60s, 70s, and 80s have much in common--culturally or politically--with young black men between the ages of 22 and 30. Yet over 70% of the league is comprised of young black men within this age range. So regardless if the owners actually like black people or not, they still give them contracts because they're consistently the best athletes available to help their football franchise be successul. And more success will ultimately lead to more revenue for the team owner! .

[@diempardon4259]

That is why the Black community should become racist. Because American black communities buy from everyone and not exclusively their own “race”. Even Caribbean and African Blacks discriminate against Black Americans.

[@bryonstevenson6502]

@@diempardon4259 that's asinine statement

[@imhoteptheunsullied3000]

@@bryonstevenson6502 You can only say that if you you stand to lose! Imagine the streets of South Africa, not a single white hair ever buys from those self employed hawkers. Not even 1! Just 1...but if it's a supermarket owned by others we all support them. But they never support us. Why is it asinine again?

[@imhoteptheunsullied3000]

@@diempardon4259 Agreed!

[@Top-Kek]

Why wasn't Sowell our first black president?

[@laverledugger4456]

obama isn't black and you both just couldn't wait to use the n-word

[@qweqwdqdqd5876]

why do you have a Pepe the frog symbol are you alt right or something?

[@TheAMW]

Laverle Dugger Obama is black. Race is a social construct it is not biological

[@MFink-oq5hy]

Ashley Monique Webster Leftist spotted

[@GoldStarBakery88]

a scientist can look at a skeleton and determine what race the person was...so yes it is biological...

[@kmkmea]

This man is a genius.

[@JoeSmith-du7kx]

The media would undermine him somehow. Look at Ben Carson. The man is an expert brain surgeon and the liberal media has managed to convince people how he's somehow "stupid."

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@stephenramos2824]

@@JoeSmith-du7kx Thomas Sowell is also a much better speaker than Carson. That makes a big difference in people perception.

[@javi5072]

@@JoeSmith-du7kx somehow he's a neurosurgeon and claimed people choose to be gay lol i just don't get reality

[@rjzavala87]

He is knowledge and wisdom in human form.

[@daveco1270]

We need more men like Thomas who present a perspective on race issues that's different from what we're hearing in the media and from certain BLM activists.

[@austinstyles6393]

wearealltubes Ilogical thinking.

[@NegSteLucie]

Donna Marino The huge difference with the Transatlantic slave trade is that it was a racialized slavery. That made a huge difference.

[@diempardon4259]

Neg Ste. Lucie Agreed. He took a specific topic and answered it broadly. Servitude is a natural part of human history and although reformed exists in EVERY country to date. But nothing is comparable to the chattel slavery endured in the States.

[@diempardon4259]

wearealltubes thinking that doesn’t challenge his beliefs.

[@diempardon4259]

If you agree with his sentiments here would you also agree that the IQ tests is equally as inadmissible as he stated there are no racial differences in terms of intelligence.

[@Kreemerz]

Would love to hear more from this man.... our news media doesn't put many like him out in the open.

[@fzqlcs]

The LibertyPen channel here on KZbin is pretty much the end of the itch. He is among the most brilliant men I have encountered in this life. I am in awe of his knowledge, understanding and resulting wisdom.

[@Kreemerz]

fzqlcs I think I'm gonna check into that book. Is there an even better one by him that I shoulld get instead of this one shown in the video?

[@fzqlcs]

jujumediazone My favorite of his books is The Thomas Sowell Reader, but they are all good. A real eye-opener was The Quest For Cosmic Justice as is Fallacies Of Race.

[@kylemcmillan1157]

I highly recommend "Basic Economics" by Thomas Sowell, it's the book that introduced me to him. He is without doubt one of the greatest intellectuals in our nation; the fact that he is black is irrelevant, it's the fact that what he states, whether about race or economics, makes far more sense than what is said in the mainstream media today. A man that I'd vote for.

[@donaldforeman4010]

Kreemerz. Truely one of America's greatest minds!

[@cat7883]

Thomas Sowell is the wooden stake in the heart of liberalism. He's one of the most iconic conservative thinkers in recent history, he says politically incorrect things about race, and he's black, so they can't call him a racist.

[@emoshunless]

True. And he is also an ex Marxist so they cannot claim he hasn't put a lot of thought into his stances. One of the greatest thinkers around if you ask me.

[@Zero0079]

I'm Hispanic, and even I agree on all of his points.

[@sigloophold]

Amen, Catherine. He is a national treasure! I love his articles. You should read how he tears Marx apart.

[@cat7883]

@MittyRmoney lol well yes, I am on Yahoo

[@cat7883]

Oh yea, I remember you :P Small world indeed (more like small internet).

[@jamiirali1]

eric michael dyson needs to learn from mr. sowell instead of running with the victim/ race card...

[@abringering2164]

the red baron You’re so right! Dr Sowell has always said that there’s nothing worse than a “smart” person who doesn’t know what they’re talking about!! Dyson is the poster child for this!

[@JoeSmith-du7kx]

@@abringering2164 Dyson is just a jackass. He basically uses pseudo-intellectual fluff words to try and substantiate his incredibly simplistic worldview.

[@tonyiommi2380]

MED should be a rapper since he has a big vocabulary. As an intellectual he is a joke

[@CaesarCassius]

You just a mean mad white man

[@Sinleqeunnini]

We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@juancpgo]

It's interesting to see how actual facts COMPLETELY change our reality. That's why education is key, the most powerful thing there is, both for the individual and society. Let's all read more and think how we can improve education.

[@Delicoms]

+Juan P It would have to start with teaching kids HOW to think not WHAT to think. So many teachers put in their unwanted opinions within their lectures, which has a cascading effect on their students, even worse in some colleges.

[@juancpgo]

Bryan Cruz Exactly. Today, education is somewhere between indoctrination and mere preparation for markets and industries. I think education should be only about thinking and problem solving, because if there is a fundamental problem within markets themselves, it won't do any good to just keep pushing kids inside them. They should instead be able to rethink the markets and create new ones, think out of the box. Any smart person knows education is pretty fucked up and needs complete replacement. It is already happening actually.

[@markwest8960]

Juan, I agree. The problem with most of our colleges and universities, it's about indoctrination, which is both useless in social / fiscal politics and also useless in the workforce, which is why economy is down and staying down, at least for the foreseeable future. Young adults are going into huge debt with an absolutely awful return (in general), on their college investments.

[@juancpgo]

Mark West yeah, I'm not from the US, but I see that the student debt situation is very tough.. I think students need to look out for alternative paths, it their careers afford so. Anything can be learned independently and at no cost (except for internet), and many careers can be started independently also. Facing the real market early on also is a much more dense, organic and dynamic learning than spending years on just theory.

[@jaysway9251]

Juan Not education but knowledge.

[@maurice2014]

He literally runs through these questions with ease. I don't ever recall him taking a L.

[@thenewtowncryer]

Yes, when you know your stuff, it's simple and fluid.

[@kofiofosu9051]

Thomas Sowell has no agenda but to speak his opinion based on the facts before him. I wish everyone could be so honest.

[@jimmybobs87]

People don't want to be honest. It's easier to spin certain facts into fiction and creat a certain agenda

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Oh no, my young apprentice. Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@engrishsheep]

@@Sinleqeunnini WOW, everything you said spelled C-A-N-C-E-R... One thing I can agree with you on, Republican is utter failure. They stabbed the back of one of the greatest United States President... Fuxk them.

[@showmetheevidence777]

I love the way T.S. just calmly looks at evidence and explains his thoughts as a result. He's the kind of person who's (generally) in short supply and I only hope I can emulate him just a tiny bit in life!

[@davidburroughs7068]

and me, too, just learned of him today. it is always wonderful to hear clear and insightful learning well expressed.

[@hasdrubal121]

I had never heard of Thomas Sowell up until a couple of days ago. I'm delighted that now I have and have ordered my first book by him and am looking forward to reading it.

[@kosztaz87]

Same here. I just stumbled across his videos like an hour ago. Absolutely amazing man, I can't believe I had never heard about him before.

[@Ben-to8vt]

May I recommend "Vision Of The Anointed"?

[@yoonjeongsoo9378]

hasdrubal121 Me too!! How the fuck have I not heard of him before? And to think I could've died without ever knowing his existence! This man is a goddamn legend and more and more people should know him

[@mulekickmike2545]

I’ve read two of his books. Awesome reading. Enjoy❗️

[@vesuvius2444]

I love hearing this man talk.

[@Zero0079]

Why is this man not the first black president?

[@sigloophold]

I think it's because he's too smart to run.

[@dennistonrockstone]

Probably because he would rather not be assassinated...

[@thepope2412]

I don't think he has what it takes to win the presidency nor does he want to run. He's also too old to reasonably run currently.

[@jackalope2302]

Carlton Banks A) He's eighty something, so too late. B) Economists don't get enough respect. C) He speaks hard truths instead of selling comforting lies.

[@ronaldprater2096]

@@sigloophold this man's intellect is off of the chart

[@TheSleep1408]

My goodness Mr. Sowell is an intelligent man, I'm getting his books!

[@Trid3nt861]

I would love to meet Sowell in person as he is a man that sees through the bullshit and tells the painful truth. "If you want to help people you tell them the truth, if you want to help yourself you tell them what they want to hear".

[@Sinleqeunnini]

I am here to tell you the truth about you, Mecha-Art, and you aren't going to like it. Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment. He's a recycled Milton Friedman whose views are proven wrong by the very crisis we see today. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@mstrainjr]

Black folks need to have men like Thomas Sowell as their hero instead of some rapper or basketball player. If they listened to this guy and shaped their lives to be more inline with the things Sowell has said, the black community would become such a force of growth and prosperity. Heck, everyone needs to listen to him.

[@mstrainjr]

@spot light But your assumption that he's making a living simply by pleasing white conservatives in no way invalidates anything he says. How do you disagree with the ideas he presents?

[@mstrainjr]

@spot light Well, I don't know. For one thing, the white racism against African Americans is a lot less than you might think. It's just that every issue between whites and blacks is blown up by the media. An example of this is the recent case of a woman who wouldn't let a man whom she didn't know into a secured apartment building at night because he was trying to push past her and he refused to prove that he lived there. There was a keypad thing by the door that the woman was trying to get him to use to prove that he lived there. He instead pulled out his phone and started recording her and tried to act like he was some kind of victim because he was black and she was white. When he finally pushed past her, she (as an employee of the company that owned the upper class apartment building) followed him to make sure he wasn't up to no good. The whole time, she kept trying to get him to show her his key or at least tell her which room he was in, but he refused to do it. When he finally got to his room and unlocked the door, he tried to make her out to be the fool in the situation. He ended up getting his video on NBC news, she was publically shamed as a racist, and she lost her job with the realty company. All she was doing was her job. I would expect her to act the same way with any stranger who was trying to force his way into a secured building without any evidence of having the right to be there. It's a case of manufactured racism. It seems to me that the largest threat to a big, power-hungry government is a strong, united people. So then it's not surprising to me that the most leftist politicians who want big government are also the ones who stir up the hate pot all the time, especially around election time. As long as we're divided and fighting each other over a stupid thing like race, they can keep using the conflict to get more power for themselves.

[@spideraxis]

Excellent! What the liberals and left-wing media won't tell Americans.

[@glytchd]

+spideraxis oh so true.. imagine knwoing this over 20yrs ago as a teen and being told "ur crazy! thats conspiracy etc etc" too bad school breeds out critical thinking these days.. The Giver was such an awesome book for me; i doubt its even allowed in class anymore lol

[@markp1078]

+liberals don't know and the media won't report it.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@spideraxis]

​@@Sinleqeunnini Sorry, your verbose and bombastic speech was high on hyperbole but offered no strong facts. It was the Republican Party that ended slavery. Democrats, sometimes called Dixiecrats, opposed emancipation, reconstruction, school desegregation, voting rights. LBJ did not want to sign the Civil Rights Act, Democrats filibustered it. The only reason the welfare state was created was to perpetuate Black dependence upon government, to which LBJ replied, "we'll have Blacks voting Democratic for 200 years". Unfortunately, it worked, only as far as the voting aspect. In all other regards, all devices the Left and Democrats have implemented have failed. Busing caused nearly every American city to go from majority White to majority Black. The welfare state destroyed the Black family unit and raised illegitimate birth rate from 22% to 76%. Affirmative Action put people into positions or colleges for which they were not qualified, instilled the victim mentality, and discriminated against Whites. Ebonics focused on improper English. Low income housing in White neighborhoods raised crime rates, put people where they weren't welcome, and made both sides bitter. The newest attempt, defunding or abolishing police, has already turned Black communities into murder zones. As far as the honesty of the progressive Left, they are nothing but hypocrites. Forest Hills, NY, 1970: notoriously liberal town, protested like hell when the Lindsay administration proposed a low income development in the largely Jewish town, claiming it would "upset the balance" of the neighborhood. You can figure the rest out. It is no different today. The champions of race baits, Bill and Hillary Clinton, live in 98% White Chappaqua, NY. Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren, Jane Fonda, Cher, Rosie O'Donnell, et al, live in gated, all-White towns, own guns, far away from the poverty and sanctuary city slums. Maxine Waters, with her nasty, racist mouth, doesn't even live in her district, but a $4 million mansion outside of it. And that almighty queen of socialism and anti-White hatred Alexandria Overdose-Commie, who knows nothing about the Constitution, can't recite the alphabet, and blames White people for every full moon, was raised in a nearly all-White suburb in Westchester County. I'll believe the "Progressive" left when they practice what they preach. Until then, go back to your drawing board, turn off CNN, put the steroids in the defund the police envelope, get an illegal alien to move next to you, and write back when you've learned from experience and not indoctrination.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

​@@spideraxis Hi Spideraxis. Unfortunately, what you yourself have written is itself a laundry list of undigested talking points just missing the target. Go back and read what I said about race reduction, neo-liberalism, and actual progressivism. You are collapsing categories, and mixing up history. Some of your statements are often unsubstantiated and frankly just wrong. You're fighting bogeymen in the corner given to you by Tucker, Sean, and Jordan, while I'm just standing here wondering who you are swinging at. If anything, I hope that as you read you will see where you go off into the very race essentialism you claim to decry. The fact that Republicans ended slavery does not mean what you think it does, because the party underwent ideological realignment started under Reconstruction. You can keep track of the moral arguments simply by looking at who advocates what policies, and it is precisely because the northern Democrats began championing more and more the white working class and the newly emancipated blacks (who were seen as having common interests together for a while) while the Republicans committed to industry and business (that's part of the reason they went to war against the South, remember), that categories got realigned. The federal income tax of 1913, the New Deal and its accompanying programs, were the proposals of the progressive wing of the Democratic party, even as Republicans and the Dixicrats (who soon became Republicans themselves) sought to water them down. By the time of the sixties, the progressive wing is increasingly championing movements unpopular in the south like the Civil Rights Movement, fighting off the erosion of unions, anti-war stances, and so forth. The same reasoning applies to LBJ, and the same for the neo-liberals in New York. They behave about 1/3 as bad as the Republicans but on crucial economic issues are just like them. So criticize them all you want. Same with Hillary and Bill. Whatever you fault them for is just a lighter version of what the Republicans gave themselves over to in the post sixties era, particularly with the Reaganite era. What is undeniable about everything is that Reaganite ideology has failed. The worship of the market, the decimation of public services, the massive tax cuts to the rich, lack of market oversight, the excesses of Wall Street, a shallow consumer culture and obsession with media spectacle, the demonization of the poor under the myth of the underclass - these were the seeds that now sprout in the economic and social chaos the nation faces. Narcissistic individualism. A governing elite in the hands of corporate elites and neo-liberal ideologues. A fascist Republican party that has no moral center left or any meaningful governing philosophy save to insist on authoritarianism (neo-liberal Democrats are only slightly better, by the way). So whatever charges you want to make about politicians, to the degree that they are even correct, are of little concern to me. They really are an indictment of Sowell's philosophy and the empty reactionary posture you have adopted. You have no positive vision. You are taking potshots at people (often erroneously) uncharitably and simply stewing in your own individual concerns. You lack moral vision, and that was something I made very clear in my original post against which you stand naked (go read the gospels or listen to Cornel West instead of Fox). It is in fact people like Bernie Sanders and AOC who represent the future of the progressive movement, the local activists of today and future leaders of tomorrow who excite the youth of this country which see the neo-liberal corruption and the failures of unfettered capitalism, the errors of American imperialism, and the solipsism of hypocritical libertarianism. Sowell is just the tail end of another closed chapter in history. It matters not where AOC herself comes from (I will not even bother to check your charge, as misleading as it likely is). It in no way impacts what she advocates for, and indeed many other politicians are failing precisely because they listen to their corporate backers, including McConnell, Graham, Tom Cotton, Pelosi, etc. You are scared and threatened by that woman and so you engage in the same deep lusts of domination you were early socialized into - beating down people underneath you or people you find threatening, engaging in a zero-sum contest of honor and shame with everyone you meet, dismissing the notion of giving to other people without expecting benefit in return or an attempt to quell your instinctual emotions of tribalism in the service of greater compassion for people far away from you. That idea, stemming from the radical vision of the historical Jesus of Nazareth, a community based on radical equality, inclusivity, and compassion, is far more a part of the progressive left these days than anywhere else. AOC has more integrity by far than Yoho and the incumbent Republicans quickly gave up their criticisms of a 2016 Trump to bow down in bitchhood to their new overlord, as evidenced by the impeachment ('He'll learn his lesson!') and the paralyzed response during COVID and the democratic protests. There is no good indication the new batch of conservatives will differ much from the last. But let me leave you with a response to your claims about LBJ and the effects of the Great Society. You cite no sources, and do not ground your argument in explicit moral positions: Johnson’s War on Poverty was a mixed bag. The degree to which the initiative failed is exactly a reflection of the ways in which the myths of poverty and invidious anti-communitarian attitudes lead to problems. Besides, the counter question for you is what would a Republican or libertarian have done? We know, in the form of Nixon and Reagan, and all those who followed him down to disastrous 2020. Johnson’s War on Poverty to some degree followed old tropes and was driven by a conservative growth agenda. It following the thinking of people like Pat Moynihan, focusing on macroeconomic growth agendas, job retraining, cultural tutelage, and punitive measures feeding into the carceral state (see Toure Reed’s 'Toward Freedom' pg. 32ff for more details). Johnson’s program also did not address the independently growing racial segregation or changing urban landscape. But on the other hand Medicare and Medicaid were boons to society and are regarded as indispensable staples. Head Start had a noticeable effect on young poor children while its adolescent equivalent Upward Bound did likewise. The Economic Opportunity Act did indeed lift millions out of poverty (which is actually a fluid notion that shifts through time) and established many programs we take for granted today. Through affirmative action and educational advancement opportunities, many African Americans ended up working in the quasi-public sector (private jobs but paid with public money), where their families remained somewhat protected when 2008 hit. But the drivers of the policies still remained bound to the standard assumptions about political economy and capitalism emergent since WWII. As Michael Katz notes in 'The Undeserving Poor’, the most crucially overlooked aspects of Johnson’s program as well as the far less effective neo-liberal and Reaganite methods of addressing the problem of poverty were political economy, resources, and power. It is clear that the decimation of workers unions (including now teachers, health care workers, lower ranking university staff, and many office workers) along with the massive shift in tax base from capital/corporations to labor has been the major correlates of an unhealthy and desperate society. That goes solidly with what Saez and Zucman argue in The Triumph of Injustice, with Katz in The Undeserving Poor, Adolph and Toure Reed, and it is solidly described in the Bible. You yourself have never made any substantive moral arguments of your own, apart from implicit half digested pop psychology and the disproven conclusions from 1960's conservatives. You are totally on the defensive. You poke here and there across the historical record, have never read Marx, and are making excuses for your own prejudices in demanding saints and perfection from a robust historical tradition as human as any other. You fall into the very trap of race essentialism Sowell warned about. You are, in other words, in need of some Socratic self-examination. You might check out the gospels, or what Cornel West and Adolph Reed have to say on KZbin about the purpose of education and the current state of our society. Sowell might be right here and there about things (he’s a smart guy, after all), but he and you both need to question your own fundamental values and whether it isn’t your own ego subordinating reason than the other way around.

[@georgecorrea8530]

Love Thomas Sowell. I admire his intellect and depth of knowledge. Agree or disagree on some issues or not we need more human beings of this stature in society. He is a delight to listen to. Also a lot is learned in the process.

[@bomiller9005]

Thomas Sowell is crazy smart!

[@thenewtowncryer]

I would say his smartness is secondary to his deep sense of caring. Most people just don't care enough to be honest/smart so they throw up smoke and mirrors.

[@chrisphillips348]

I saw him speak at my college, my favorite commentator. Brilliant man!!

[@malvolio01]

This man is one of those people who just makes you feel smarter after you've listened to him or read one of his articles/books.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Do not make the mistake that Peterson fans do, of thinking that just because an academic deals in half truths that his moral messasge is right. After all, Peterson has been taken down in exactly the right way by the left. Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@adamduarte895]

@@Sinleqeunnini first off you’re absolutely wrong about the mission of Christ. His ultimate mission was salvation for a sinful and rebellious people not to fix society. Fix your presupposition first.

[@michaelfhughes2604]

At over 80 I can testify to the veracity and thoughtfulness enunciated by Mr. Sowell.

[@4968ace]

You used like 1/3 of the words in that sentence wrong, just use words you know how to use lol

[@hbertolinih]

My Gosh. This man must get a Nobel Prize, at least!

[@Daniel-from-Texas]

Watch Sowell's old interviews, too. So good.

[@crucifixmegabuster95]

I hope everyone gets what he's saying. Don't play the victim anymore my friends. people that are really hurting are the true victims. if your 21 with a car note still living in your parents house or 36 with 4 kids in a apartment don't play the victim. you knew what you got into from the start. life ain't a cake walk. so many days I wanna tell my just to suck it but I know I will end up causing effects on my family.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Unfortunately you have a simplistic view of life, and lack moral imagination. Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@briand787b]

Keep up the good work Liberty Pen. I'm addicted to the classics you've been uploading

[@bangarang3810]

Just an aside, the music in these videos are fantastic

[@jackalope2302]

Bang Arang IKR? That's goregeous.

[@thenewtowncryer]

total Take 5 rip off

[@Montanakid1988]

Said it before and I’ll say it again, we need more people like him in this world. Honestly if we had more scholars like him, the world would be a truly different place. A better place which is what we need right now.

[@Garium87]

"How would you describe that?" ""Wrong", I think, sums it up."

[@shannonchaney4175]

Best part low key 🤣

[@timearly6961]

I have noticed a HUGE difference between Blacks that are raised in military families and blacked raised in the ghetto.

[@australianmade2659]

This man is brilliant 🇦🇺

[@markwest8960]

Absolutely!

[@davidiadeleke]

I like the interviewer. He’s not judgmental, is genuinely curious, open to learning and properly interpreting Sowell’s responses, and is smart enough to let Sowell do the talking.

[@puffinvapor4551]

Dr.Sowell should be more widely recognized and adulated than Lebron James. You can't listen to him without becoming better educated.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@puffinvapor4551]

matthewcong : I’m certainly convinced LOL!!!

[@stevenhunter3345]

The clarity and brilliance with which Sowell communicates is remarkable.

[@mikerod9555]

Steven Hunter humans are 100% African, 99.9% identical and 100% African derived. Plus, there has never been a homogeneous ethnicity, no ethnicity can claim any biological traits and we inherited everything from our one African family tree [AAPA]. Humans are not grouped by biological traits. "You and I, in fact everyone all over the world, we’re literally African under the skin; brothers and sisters separated by a mere two thousand generations. Old-fashioned concepts of race are not only socially divisive, but scientifically wrong." "Explain that genetic evidence shows all humans are 99.9% identical and do not fall neatly into physical categories some people call races. The differences among us-like skin color and hair texture-evolved as humans adapted to different environments. They account for less than one tenth of one percent of our genetic makeup." www.nationalgeographic.org/activity/all-africans-under-the-skin/

[@sethdbourne]

Dr Sowell is an amazing speaker. I wish more people would take time to listen to him and let it actually sink in. He backs up everything with facts.

[@dannyboywhaa]

This man really is one of the truly great men of our time :)

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@RedSkiesMusic]

LibertyPen, I literally have made it part of my routine to watch a video a day and educate myself!

[@ChillerVisionz]

Same.

[@ericgarland3133]

The smartest man in America maybe?

[@nicmart]

+Eric Garland How typically American to try to rank learned people by their smartness. How are you going to compare a smart economist to a smart neurologist. What is your metric?

[@dannysmith785]

+Nicolas Martin Whoever has the largest feet is the cleverest.

[@theredscourge]

+Nicolas Martin It's called IQ. Look it up. Reality doesn't give a shit about your European style sensibilities of "everyone is special, no one is any better than anyone else!"

[@nicmart]

+theredscourge It’s cute how so many people on the Internet have little cliches they invoke. Some have “racist,” “FoxNews,” or “misogynist,” and you have “European style sensibilities.” It’s still preposterous. I was probably reading Sowell decades before you. My IQ being higher than yours, I can see how foolish you are and how even smart people aren’t great at everything. Feynman might have made a poor economist, and Sowell a poor physicist, so which is smarter? Anyone who resorts to stock assumptions based on inadequate evidence, as you do, is not so bright. Now I’m not an egalitarian, I’m an arrogant snob, but you have no problem with that, do you?

[@MegaWeagle]

+Nicolas Martin "Anyone who resorts to stock assumptions based on inadequate evidence" You did the same thing with your original comment.

[@AnthonyCatella]

This is very eye opening! In college I read his book A Conflict of Visions. In this he contrasts two philosophies one a constrained vision and another an unconstrained vision. The latter vision sees the present as more important than the past and we make a new start forgetting the past and making a new future. The former vision says the past is our best guide to the future. Both visions were held by various philosophers of the 17th and 18th and 19th centuries. In the constrained vision we are constrained to view the past as important. In the unconstrained vision we are more free to act accordingly to the dictates of our own time. Both viewpoints are valid it’s just whichever vision one beholds that is how the person thinks and acts in their perception of reality.I concluded that I am a constrained visionary. I believe the past is important and is the way we can learn to do better. The past is the lantern to our feet and the light unto our path. And so is God’s word. I also believe in our great religious heritage. I agree in this discussion with Dr Sole that the modern welfare state nearly has recked this country. I believe in welfare reform. The Great Society was a failure. I am for full employment, tax reductions and deregulation of business. Constantly excelerating economic progress is not an end in itself but a means to liberate the capacities of every human being to pursue his talents and hopes! This is the way of economy in which the good fortune of others multiplies the good fortune of all. Well , just some thoughts.

[@flumpyhumpy]

3:03 "Wrong", I think, sums it up. AH HAHAHAHA. Gold.

[@thenewtowncryer]

the gift of clarity

[@EGT-kf2hu]

I love Thomas Sowell. Pure and simple. What a fascinatingly interesting and wise man.

[@iambehindthemirror]

The interviewer just squirms and squirms terribly because it's such a controversial topic, he has trouble to find the (politically) correct words not to offend anyone. Political correctness is cancer of a real, open debate.

[@bayarya84]

Rea q

[@crossroads670]

Uh no, the interviewer is of the Hoover Institution and is a right wing guy. He’s just trying to decipher what Sowell really means...

[@UberTankred]

I appreciate that the interviewer is constantly trying to catch up to Sowell's ideas and even moved the conversation forward by summarizing Sowell's points honestly , instead of injecting a counter-argument and fifteen strawmen fallacies in a so called summary, which is what CNN does *all the time!*

[@afrosymphony8207]

this man has tthe best common sense ever....common sense is not so common u know

[@thenewtowncryer]

Most people just act dumb so they don't have to acknowledge reality- they are weak, conformists...cowards...lazy This man simply cares enough to not lie to himself and others.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@khemkaslehrling3840]

Really, we ought to putting more energy into finding and dealing with actions of discrimination, rather than thoughts or statements of racism.

[@tommylopez765]

His comments seem to be somewhat balanced. It is something that I must think more about.

[@thenewtowncryer]

please do

[@choppy2143]

using this to help back up my speech tomorrow in class. so helpful

[@Manifestopheles386]

I love how his name is pronounced 'Thomas Soul'.

[@michaelroach4219]

It's always enlightening to listen to zThomas Sowell.

[@AmericanCombatAssoc]

Brilliant Man!

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@gabrielmoreira3119]

Brazil here, Learning so much, thanks.

[@amster2007dam]

A great Black man!!!

[@thenewtowncryer]

a great human regardless of race and/or gender

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment (for which you can look at the work of John Gibbs on the importance of the twin values of the Good and the Right based on taking up the perspective of others in society), in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@Willtext]

Thomas is such a brilliant man.

[@preyeyinkore7238]

The way the interviewer is twisting his head makes me want to slap him 🤔🤔😒

[@beaconterraoneonline]

Dr. Sowell is a brilliant man ... his work and interviews, as well as Milton Friedman’s should be the basis for a mandatory economics course/class in every high school.

[@bjjsalzberry13]

Love your books Dr. Sowell! They are truth bombs!

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@bjjsalzberry13]

@@Sinleqeunnini The New Deal was an abysmal failure and FDR was so pompous he thought he could predict markets. Please save your lecture of BS. The fact that you think the new Deal created the middle class is more than laughable.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

@@bjjsalzberry13 Oh, no my friend. You need to look at the historical facts. The New Deal lifted America out of the depression, constituted the middle class, enfranchised poor blacks and whites in a substantive way and strengthened the vitality and quality of life for blue-collar workers in an unprecedented form. Things like the Taft-Harley Amendment later weakened it, and the erosion of what was accomplished happened under the emergence of neo-liberal politics. I suggest you read Toure Reed's work on this, or the sweeping analysis of how neo-liberal tax policies went wrong in the work of Immanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman called The Triumph of Injustice. I can cite facts all day to you if you want, whereas what you are saying is unsupported. I might point to the 2008 financial crisis and the debacle that is the Republican legacy of governance now come to the front in how America has handled the epidemic compared to other countries.

[@bjjsalzberry13]

@@Sinleqeunnini False...big time. It exacerbated the depression, Fixed the price of gold, started trend towards centralizing power allowing for greater risk and fragility to volatility, bastardized Keynes General theory and empowered the executive branch beyond repair. Please....don't give me your indoctrination lecture. It's played out. I've heard it a thousand times and believed it myself because the same was taught to me. But it is false. Demonstrably false.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

@@bjjsalzberry13 It was the decision to fix the gold standard that dragged down America during the Great Depression. FDR’s decision to take us off it (which is what Europe did as well) is part of what allowed America to start climbing out of the catastrophe (see www.history.com/news/how-did-the-gold-standard-contribute-to-the-great depression#:~:text=In%20a%20gold%20standard%20system,increasing%20their%20reserves%20of%20gold.) Conversely, when Nixon effectively took the US off the gold standard in 1976 the economy started to grow out of its stagflation. You will immediately resort to people like Milton Friedman, who contests these claims, but Milton’s own claims about what could have prevented the Great Depression were disproven when tried in 2008, but his overall neo-liberal economic theories have been proven wrong by the very disasters that lay at our doorstep, a result of laissez faire Reaganomics championed by Republicans and centrist Democrats. The reverse set of claims on the Depression, however, is still maintained by a number of economists. Rather, if anything Roosevelt was more conservative than he could have been (accounting for the 'dip' in recovery in 1937-1938) and the passage of the Taft-Hartley under a coalition of Republicans and Dixicrats reduced the power of the working class so ultimately only a third of the workforce remained unionized. Note in addition that my arguments are not solely based on absolute economic growth but crucially incorporate the factor of wealth differential (an important thing that is often missed in these discussions), since that is a very good indicator of the amount of social unrest and unhappiness in society (as we can see today). Finally, the above claims about the gold standard are not related to the New Deal in any crucial way and irrelevant to my argument. It was the growth of the trade unions under the National Labor Relations Ace that allowed many working people (blacks and whites) to have stable and well-paying employment. In combination with the Federal Housing Act, the Social Security Act, the Fair Labor Standards Act, then later the GI bill, a progressive tax schedule with top marginal tax rates, and the high economic output under government imposed production standards during WWII that the middle class was formed. If you doubt this, look at Zucman and Saez’s work in the Triumph of Injustice which shows that such a progressive income tax rate and corporate tax rate was perfectly consistent with the so-called Golden Age of capitalism. The programs of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security are seen as essential services by most Americans. Even hobbled as they were by private interests and rich businessmen, those were the results of an earlier generation that understood the devastating effects of the Great Depression and the importance of communal values. Your claim about the size of government is a judgement particular to your individualist perspective and ignores historical reality. America is a young nation, which for the first century and a half was essentially a frontier state that faced no major outside threats (having massacred all the native inhabitants), although the Civil War did encourage the Union to expand its branches and pass a temporary income tax to fund the war effort. The country did not even have a permanent federal income tax until 1913. All modern nations of any civilized and humane nature provide things like health care, free public schooling, the right to unionize, social support, and correct for wealth inequality via progressive income taxes. Those countries have happier and more productive citizens. They are better educated. There is less poverty. They provide more public services, and their capitalist sector is still more efficient than ours per capital because ours has degenerated to the point of funneling much of the wealth to the ultra wealthy, not welfare queens or government offices. It is rather you with a skewed basis of comparison who thinks that government is bloated and wasteful. You lack a communitarian ethos that counter-balances your concern for yourself. This leads into all the rationalizations that Reagan made about society and which are disproved by many things, especially the positive counterexample of most other nations. The wasteful part is the military industrial complex (which is a socialist institution and sucks up most of the budget yet wastes much of it in catering to special interests and useless pork barrel spending), the corrupt ties between corporations and politicians that both disrupt the free market and essentially make a welfare state of the business elites. If you want to complain about the expansion of the executive branch you should complain about Trump, who has corrupted his office more than anyone in an effort to cater to corporate interests, ruling elites, and undemocratic interests. Finally, you have never responded to my moral arguments. That trumps all other arguments. Even if much of the above were not true, the progressive vision is the clear moral imperative right now. The depth of misery and insanity that has happened since Trump was elected, but especially in the last year, lies very much at the feet of neo-liberal policies that stripped public services down to the bone, assumed a completely profit-driven system based on atomized interests could take over as compensation and handle realistic shocks, and contributed to an utter denial among Republicans about what was going on, to the point that they outright refused to provide aid to people as a way to keep them at home and stop the pandemic while also maintaining the economy. These Republicans (and some centrist Democrats, I might add) gave people the false choice of either returning to work (it was mostly poor workers who had to do this, not the business owners, by the way) and making the pandemic worse, or stay at home and starve. All other civilized nations did what I recommended and they are laughing at American shortsightedness and paralysis even as an entire sub-culture of Americans whining about having to put a mask on since it inhibits their ability to….spread death to others(?). Ultimately, BJ, you (like Sowell) have not subjected your own basic values to critical examination. You can say nothing against the historical tradition of Jesus and the other great religions that stand by my side. If you try you will by quickly out-gunned. Do not think that half-truths subordinated to a petty moral vision will suffice for a defense of your character. You must reexamine whether it is you personally who are really afraid of helping other people because you always expect something in return, or whether it is your own lack of empathy that leads you to idolize Mammon at the expense of people you think deserve to suffer.

[@roar91328]

the more i here thomas sowell say the more i respect him and appreciate his rational and informed arguments. i would love to meet this man and he obviously studies a great deal of history! he is an amazing person :D

[@arcad1an292]

TS commands respect!

[@Flatbush21rst]

I have a few of his books, and collecting many more of his writings. I hope to one day be fortunate to hold a conversation with Dr. Thomas Sowell. I would feel honored

[@Sinleqeunnini]

You are wrong in your assumptions about the good of communal aid. America is precisely worse than other countries on a moral and economic level because of its outdated frontier society attitudes. All other countries now do capitalism more effectively than us, including China, even as their citizens are much happier and healthier. Unfortunately Sowell lacks moral imagination and is subscribing to the same half-truths that people like Jordan Peterson do. Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@Flatbush21rst]

matthewcong please do some research and travel around. You have no idea of what you’re talking about

[@TylerNorth]

I love this guy! Just learning about him today. Thanks, r/The_Donald

[@greasyharold2653]

Sowell is anti-Trump

[@brothersamuel100]

*I am Trump supporter, but I also respect Sowell's wisdom. Sowell don't have to support the same candidate for president as I do in order for me to respect his wisdom and insight on matters.*

[@greasyharold2653]

You know where I like it... He is anti-Hillary too. "Hillary Clinton’s much-vaunted “experience” has been an experience in carrying out a policy that has failed disastrously from the Middle East to Ukraine to North Korea. We don’t need more of that kind of experience." -Thomas Sowell in the National Review

[@afdcomposer]

+Samuel Patterson I disagree heartily. If you think Trump is qualified to serve as president you have not heard Sowell's message.

[@fzqlcs]

In Sowell's last column regarding the election, he described voting for Trump as playing Russian Roulette and voting for Hillary as putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger. That sounds like a mild endorsement of Trump, since you have some chance with Russian Roulette.

[@retrocomixverse]

" Some things are believed because they are demonstrably true but many other things are believed simply because they have been asserted repeatedly " Five minutes later: Income inequality has always been the rule, not the exception.

[@lessiv]

"wrong sums it up" I love this man :D

[@thenewtowncryer]

clarity

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@graphguy]

A great American icon. Not heard from enough in mainstream, probably because he is such a great, clear, accurate, compelling speaker.

[@-scrim]

Sowell is great, but he is pretty subpar when it comes to things like race and genetics in general.

[@lisacox3750]

Absolutely. His theories on race unravel pretty quickly. This is not his area of expertise.

[@-scrim]

@Brett M I wouldn't consider myself an expert on the matter, but certainly more educated than Sowell.

[@AntiFascist2011]

Sowell is a rock star of the intellect! Everyone should read and listen to him. He should be required reading in schools.

[@leathertool]

The interviewer doesn't have a clue...

[@dillamadukes21]

Bernardo Leonardo Martino He does, he has to present Dr. Sowell's ideas in a manner where the audience can easily digest the ideas being discussed as well as present traditional arguments used against conservative ideas.

[@kwesi01]

How refreshing to find out by trawling through youtube that Thomas Sowell and others have been saying for years what many black people including myself have (mostly secretly) been thinking for aeons - that there are self-destructive sub-cultures amongst certain sections of black communities in Western countries. Will definitely buy at least one of his books in 2013.

[@Reality0fPerception]

I am sorry but this interviewer is terrible...

[@boneheaded9751]

The Kathleen Wells Show You didn't hear a word he said....or several other intelligent black men are saying. To name a few...Ben Carson, Thomas Sowell, Jason Riley...and Walter Williams. They actually want to see black people as a whole succeed. They are intelligent and compassionate human beings. But as for you, one just has to listen to a couple of seconds worth of absolute hate filled racist drivel you spew forth to understand what a monster you are.

[@boneheaded9751]

The Kathleen Wells Show Oooh, you used it properly, and in the right context. You clearly learned that word to at least SOUND like you're intelligent. But your diseased mind betrays the facade.

[@boneheaded9751]

The Kathleen Wells Show You're a hopeless racist...and a waste of human flesh. “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” -Mark Twain

[@boneheaded9751]

The Kathleen Wells Show And also the truth. You're welcome and do what you will with it.

Bone Headed Very intelligent. Thank you

[@thomasryan5736]

Greatest asset in my life. Love Dr. Sowell.

[@brod2man]

I don't know what this channel is, but the interviewer does a good job at trying to understand Sowell's points. It seems like he disagrees with some, but furrows his brow and tries to express disagreement but openness at the same time. I'm not sure if its part of an act or if hes really an honest person - either way its a refreshing interview style

[@aintgonnahappen]

This guy has it and has it unlike anyone I have seen. Great interview.

[@Jmartintx80]

It will never happen. No matter how enlightened and intelligent they think they are, both Sharpton and Jackson know, in their heart of hearts, that they could not hold a candle to Dr. Sowell.

[@horace5518]

I'm an African man who agrees with a lot Mr. sowell's points. I also see and agree with a lot of the reasons people white and black are taking a knee during the anthem. Anyone that is up for (and is capable of!!!) objective, intelligent discerning dialogue let me know. Emphasis on dialogue, not mindless angry finger pointing, shaming and blaming. Peace (literally!)

[@Miatacrosser]

I once heard him on the radio taking calls from the public. A young black man called and started to complain about what an evil thing this country did to his ancestors. So Dr. Sowell points out that he seemed upset. The caller then asks Dr. Sowell, "Well, name me one good thing that came about from their ancestors being slaves. Dr. Thomas Sowell replied, "It Allowed Me To Be Born Here Instead Of Africa!" The caller was speechless.

[@timearly6961]

I am a 70 year old, OK financially, white male. I served in America’s military, worked hard, married, took care of my family, graduated from college, never been arrested, paid my taxes, went to church, painted my house, cut my grass, carved many turkeys on holidays, did not smoke, watched my weight, took an annual physical and I am the” Evil White Guy”? The Lefties are CRAZY! I still remember the days when returning Vietnam veterans, drafties, were SPIT on by the 1960s Lefties. While in uniform. It looks like the Lefties are out of control again!

[@OnlyAPawn1970]

Sowell is blowin this guys mind.Because Thomas Sowell is one of the most intelligent men in America today.A new level.

[@ripbeni6198]

It need not be said that Sowell is a great speaker and particularly sharp in these interviews, but I particularly love this interviewer. He presents the flawed yet instinctual/intuitive counter arguements/questions on all our minds. In this way it gives the listener the proper mental re-wiring they need that comes when Sowell provides the appropriate response or explains how the inquiry or arguement itself is a fallacy. Added bonus, it is all done in plain and simple english, the sign of a true intellectual who has a good grasp on and know what they are talking about... won't get that from verbal acrobats such as Noam Chomsky.

[@laurin5659]

Yes, exactly. That the way you get people to understand issues. Not by talking over those who criticise you, because you have a personal interest to promote a certain position. Why is the government still allowed to use the media as a vote-generator by deceiving the public?

[@koyunbaba73]

LibertyPen, the world owes men like Tom Sowell and Milton Friedman a debt of gratitude. By describing what they saw, they, in effect, gave us a blue print for happiness. (This is quite literally the opposite of what Marx and Lenin gave the world). I personally, am also grateful to you (as others should be), for disseminating these messages.

[@Tritano]

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I appreciate it. Also, for not swearing and devolving like most comments I read on threads like this. You make very strong points. I teach debate and I stress to students how opinion is objective.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@654321poiuytrewq0987]

8:24 clearly it is not based race in that case. it is based on self interest and probability which is what all our actions are based

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@mattwernecke2342]

In Atlanta, we all get along.

[@Tapidlfj]

The very essence of truth and logic with a great voice to boot

[@Sinleqeunnini]

You are wrong in your assumptions about the good of communal aid. America is precisely worse than other countries on a moral and economic level because of its outdated frontier society attitudes. All other countries now do capitalism more effectively than us, including China, even as their citizens are much happier and healthier. Unfortunately Sowell lacks moral imagination and is subscribing to the same half-truths that people like Jordan Peterson do. Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@soulvaccination8679]

Thomas Sowell is the most interesting person in America.And the smartest.And honest.

[@Mooja12]

Just about every time I hear Sowell speak I gain a new perspective on topics I felt I pretty much had nailed down.

[@markflierl1624]

6:00 As a construction worker in California (carpenter), I shocked to hear that blacks are more common as construction workers than whites. We have very few black construction workers where i live. On some jobs, you need to speak Spanish.

[@terryesrom4607]

Impressive, facts are always brushed under the carpet when people don't want to hear them or they simply don't fit their agenda. We used to hear a lot of this in history class until it didn't work for particular political groups and their financial gains, something that motivates many individuals striving to get into politics rather than actually wanting to help the common man succeed. Politicians were originally not paid it was simply a chosen roll in an attempt to keep this country safe for all its citizens, fair and balanced for all to succeed in their chosen field of endeavor, they were volunteering their time and usually had other careers or lives. I would love to hear more from Mr. Sowell.

[@mtb416]

I'm constantly amazed at Sowell's accuracy and clarity.

[@theonlypans2625]

Question: would not the 3 strikes law and the high arrest rates for drug possession among blacks partly explain why there are low rates of families staying together among blacks? The idea being that incarcerating blacks would dismantle their families?

[@ddilink]

It's great to see Dr. Sowell's ideas getting aired and publicized.

[@pho3nixinflight]

How are so many people not able to see that the interviewer is simply a good interviewer? It seems obvious to me he is asking the questions in a way to get Sowell to expound on his answers.

[@BarriosGroupie]

"People may prefer one race to another, but they prefer themselves to everyone else" yep, so true.

[@tagbon_]

What's the name of the prelude music you play for all your Thomas Sowell related videos? Your channel is fantastic and I appreciate the content you upload. It highlights honest assessments on issues without pandering to one's irrelevant and unsubstantiated claims of offense and bigotry.

[@joeb6544]

Thank you Dr. Sowell. You sir are a voice of reason in a sea of uninformed, uneducated, unintelligent noise...........always armed with facts and logic, you are amazing!

[@Sinleqeunnini]

You are wrong in your assumptions about the good of communal aid. America is precisely worse than other countries on a moral and economic level because of its outdated frontier society attitudes. All other countries now do capitalism more effectively than us, including China, even as their citizens are much happier and healthier. Unfortunately Sowell lacks moral imagination and is subscribing to the same half-truths that people like Jordan Peterson do. Sowell is deep into a moral blindness showing his moral underdevelopment, in particular, it goes against the very radical vision of Jesus of Nazareth demonstrated in the gospels, one based on radical inclusiveness, equality, and compassion. Jesus and his early followers would disagree with Sowell's attitudes about society and the fact their movement succeeded (even as it became diluted by compromising with the worldly values of dominant society) proves Sowell wrong. Sowell just doesn't believe in those things, so he picks the facts and arguments to fit that view. Think again about race and poverty, how the myth of the underclass stems from your own subjective biases rather than the stream of social data and analyses by those who prove Sowell wrong (Adolph Reed being one of them). You can find an entire rebuttal to this way of thinking online as well as in an abundant literature in print (see Michael Katz's work on poverty). Think about how it was the Republicans that pulled everyone to the right after the 1960's and brought about the neo-liberal focus on identity politics instead of class that the Democrats had already been working on with things like the New Deal (which created the American middle class and the most prosperous era in American history) even as it also championed women's rights, gays, and other vulnerable people at the margins of society. The progressive left is way ahead of you on these canards and half-truths about poverty and race. We can get right down to the bottom of things right here and simply say Sowell is largely hostile to communitarian values and a strong supporter of individual values, far beyond what is healthy. All these arguments about slavery and discrimination follow from that premise. Despite his claims to be only about facts, his views are in fact nothing more than jazzed up Milton economics and Reaganite attitudes towards government and society, and both of these have been shown to be failures in America's pathetic response to COVID and the democratic protests in comparison to other countries. Sowell's own assumptions about a culture of poverty have been proven wrong by the likes of Michael Katz and Adolph Reed. He skips over the socialist policies and the anti-socialist policies in the 20th century that shaped the social patterns among poor blacks that he cites. And of course, he continues to drone on and on today about the current economic crisis using the same dogma that propped up the Republican party over the last 40 years and is now paralyzed by its utter failure. Sowell, you really have nothing useful to say now that neo-liberalism has been exposed as a corrupt, broken order.

[@garygerard4290]

I'm 30 seconds into this video and I'm ready to pass judgement: Excellent, this man should be in a position of power and I know full well why he is not

[@NoName-ch2wg]

Just came across Sowell Love him He makes to much sense

[@t.c.8697]

The poor man, he just doesn't get it. Mr. Sowell is brilliant!