This unknown Klipsch RF7-III speaker is no joke.

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Gear mentioned or used in evaluating the speakers
Matrix X-Sabre 3
Pathos Kratos integrated amp
Galion TS120 tube integrated amp
Mcintosh MAC6700 integrated amp
Galion upcoming Class TS-A20 amp
Mysterious EL34 affordable tube amp ( Possible upcoming Galion amp)
Exasound E82 streamer
Mcintosh 462 and C2600 tube preamp
Buchardt I150 integrated amp
Galion TS120SE tube integrated amp

[@ThomasAndStereo]

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[@stormsdarwin8767]

Very happy owner of the RF-7 III here. For myself, I'm just not compelled to upgrade ever since I bought them in 2019. The giant soundstage and dynamics these speakers throw has to be heard. Capable of high SPL too, those four 10s can make a whole house breathe without really needing a sub.

[@jaaron2834]

I decided to purchase a pair of RF7-lll about 3 years ago along with/ Denon X8500H AVR and have not added any amps or any accessories to the system yet… but I can say … it sounds great for not having an amp and more than enough power to fill the entire house with music of immense clarity… so glad I have them… now that I’m 63… it’s probably the last system I will need .. very happy with my Denon / Klipsch system ! Btw… Thomas, your videos are always quite informative… Thanks.! 👍😎🤙🤗

[@BradVinylRush]

I’m a long time Klipsch fan - still use a pair of Forte II’s I bought in 1993 for my home theater. Still in love!

[@daveyurkovich9459]

I find it so interesting how electronics and speakers, can sound so different. The struggle is real. Thank you Thomas and friends.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@joshdekubber3631]

Such a great video! Thank you! I'm a Forte iv owner and love them.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for watching!

[@Lovelacewatkins139]

That was a great review involving other audiofiles and getting their perspective and view view , ps that album is out of this world listening through planar headphones

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, cool album.

[@michelrochette3066]

Love your videos sir and comments on hi-fi gear. Happy to see you're from Montréal.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for watching!

[@soowat1190]

Thank you Thomas and your audio buddies sharing your lived experience with the Klipsch speakers, very enjoyable!

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

THANKS FOR SHARING 🙏 ERIC AND HIS FRIENDS EXPERIENCE AND HOW MUCH OUR TASTE AND AMPS AFFECT THE MUSIC 🎶💚💚💚

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@zizendorf]

I loved what you said about "detail and resolution"! As our aural senses interpret what we hear, yes, you're correct there are 'musical times' where the blend of the detail, to the extent you don't hear the detail, just the glorious blend. It's music... a thing of beauty, not to measured, just enjoyed.

[@gaborozorai3714]

Have Cornwall III's driven by 40 watts of push-pull 845 tubes and still in love 8 years running. I mostly listen to classical and jazz and find them to be life-like and life-size. In no way shouty or in-your-face as is often associated with horns.

[@coyoteproject999]

rf7 + Cayin150 is magical combo. that gives you chills ^^

[@jimmy67RS]

Great video Thomas. I have owned the 7IIIs for a year now. Their break in period is no joke ( and long), massive difference in feeling the pressure even at low volumes. After alternating amplifiers, Bryston- McIntosh, both 100 watt amps, there are differences in mid and bass. The McIntosh has a much lower damping factor, the mids sound softer. The 7s sound glorious.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for the info!

[@philipketchum1407]

I have vintage Klipsch LaScalas and Chorus 2. I know the Klipsch sound is the coloring of the wood cabinets. But I decided to brace up the cabinets and deaden the horns with material. I replace tweeters and crossovers. The dynamics, low distortion and live sound is still there but very clean. After hot rodding them and adding subwoofers they are now untouchable for under 10k in my opinion.

[@Foxx6699]

I've had the RF-7 III for two years now driven by a Marantz pm-ki ruby and a hifi rose rs250. Tbh, the only speakers that I've heard that I'd consider an upgrade are Sopra's but those are out of my budget. Absolutely fantastic speakers for the money. They are so, so much better than the Klipsch's RP line.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Agree

[@JamesWilliams-gf8gm]

I found the JBL 4367 to exceed the Focal Sopra is transparency and dynamics. Cheaper too and a real step up from the Klispch RF7iii I have demoed. I also own the RP8000f, JBL 590s and the 4367. Just good for thought if you are ever looking to spend money lol.

[@jungtarcph]

These are 2-way speakers, right?

[@chriss881000]

​@@jungtarcphyes

[@markd4292]

LOL. Love how you went out in the field for the review! I have to agree, Klipsch give me Emotion more than any other speaker I have demoed or own, which are the Sonus Faber Lumina 5. Klipsch aren't as detailed or present the music with as much separation and clarity (although they are clear) as much as the Lumina but they have that Emotion, and that immediacy where the music just comes out as if no drivers were there. My Sonus Faber's have an extremely low distortion rating and it is apparent when you really dig into the volume and it gives so much clarity, Klipsch on the other hand I feel can totally fall apart when pushed to high volume because I believe their distortion is too high, but then again, they are so efficient that you don't need to crank it up too much anyway; a Klipsch volume level of say 2dB is probably for the average speaker like a 70dB or more. Seriously, Klipsch is one of the Best for low level listening! Their voicings have greatly improved over the years so much so that I am really considering trading in my SF for a Forte IV or maybe the RF7 III. They really pressurize the room well, this is something my SF doesn't do too well but if I decide to keep them I will need a few subs.

[@dennisheadley4408]

Always really enjoy your reviews Thomas. Haven't seen you post recently.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, yeah, I have slowed down due to health issues.

[@dennisheadley4408]

Hope all is well. Health is the most important thing.@@ThomasAndStereo

[@Kukkema]

@@ThomasAndStereoAlways a good day, when there’s a new review from T&S. 😊. All the best to you, Thomas. Hope your health improves soon ✌🏼

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, slowly recovering.

[@Kukkema]

@@ThomasAndStereo sounds good. Slow and steady wins the race

[@genehammond7239]

Love them !!!

[@beersandburgers7392]

I've owned the RF7 III's for about 3 years and they amaze me every time I play them. The soundstage is vast. The guitar strings and vocals at the mid range are very life like, detailed and present. I have them paired with an Emotiva amp at 300 watts per channel. I would love to hear them paired with a Mcintosh amp. Great video! I always wondered how much more I would get with La Scala's. This has answered my question with bass. I can't imagine spending $17,000 a pair and still having to add subs for full dynamic bass. I'll stick with my RF7 III's for a very, very long time :) :)

[@ThomasAndStereo]

You can get a bit of the midrange magic of the La Scala with the Forte 4. Bass, according to the drummer friend say it sounds 'real' on the La Scala.

[@djcordes4352]

I have them paired with McIntosh. After you get done done spending $20k on the amp and preamp. Then comes the high end speaker cables, interconnects, and great Coax. If you want to just listen to music be content with what you have. Honestly, I’m going to finish with a pair of Martin Logan’s.

[@ebonneau1]

Nice video! Incredible editing works! Didn’t think you would make it with our English skills 😂😂😂 let me know if you need help to move your next review speakers or amp! Me an Manu will be more than happy to help!

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for your help in making this video.

[@Boilermaker86765]

I have RF-7 II and RF-83s amazing 🤩

[@amakrid]

I haven''t heard its sound but it's a real beauty...

[@navinadv]

My favourite Klipsch was the Chorus/Chorus II with the rear facing PR that one could tune using blutak. I found the biggest challenge with Klipsch was their crossovers but these were quite easily upgradable. Klipsch, Maggie and Ohm Walsh will always be on the top of my list.

[@brianesbaugh6897]

Ya..heard the Klipsch Chorus when they first came out way back around 1990…and was blown away in the same way that you were… With that large passive radiator in the back. I even clearly remember the song that I heard on them… Somewhere Down the Crazy River by Robbie Robertson. Wow, just wow!

[@dajikbatarang1]

I always love watching your videos and they will always get a like from me. Unfortunately I've never heard a horn speaker I really enjoyed, Klipsch included.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Ah, come to my home and I will change your mind! Thanks for the support.

[@dajikbatarang1]

@@ThomasAndStereo I would love to drop by the next time I'm in Montreal. Your always welcome here when you come to Toronto

[@JamesWilliams-gf8gm]

You are missing out! After buying horns (JBL 4367) I am never going back to direct radiating speakers. You should seek out a demo. Maybe not Klispch lol. I own some of those too….

[@garysmith8455]

Interesting. Ever since I saw Paducah theater compare the Forte' 4's vs. RF-7 3, I knew I made the right decision. Forte' 4's powered by a Willsenton R8 with complete JJ. Electronics EL-34 etc. I also have Klipsch RP-289F and 600M as well. I also enjoy my Martin Logan ESL Classic 9's from the Masterpiece series with ALL Parasound gear. It is good to have some varied speakers and electronics in your system. 😊

[@Weisserdau]

Klipsch Heresy 1st gen is my poison. Yes they tend to be pop and sizzle style until I paired them with a 3 watt tube amp. Settled them down nicely. The new Klipsch I'm sure are great, but I love old school!

[@hassabsaeed9993]

Thomas I just ordered one yesterday because of your video :) , i have the RP8000f and these speakers are very enjoyable so i am super excited how the RF7III will improve upon the 8k

[@jamesa.4451]

I went from the RP8000’s to the RF 7’s and from the first song the difference was huge. Incredible soundstage, detail and separation. Totally worth it to me. How do you feel about the upgrade?

[@hassabsaeed9993]

@@jamesa.4451Congrat :) RF7 III is an amazing upgrade , For now it is my main speaker just for the cheer scale and sound stage it throw and how immersive and 3D like effect it produce . withe room correction (DIRAC) it transform to anther level, Seriously Klipsch doesn't get the attention it deserve, It maybe not the last call in refinement and details but for the asking price it is unbeatable in technicality and fun, It hit the balance of being fun enjoyably speaker but sound like audiophile ones. 10/10

[@TM-fx2pi]

Glad to see Klipsch getting some love ! Thank you. I love my Cornwall iv’s but they too lack hard impact although the quality of the recording matters a good bit. I run two REL S/812. That helps a lot

[@boombasticbass1374]

My rf7iii is a keeper.. I’m running them off the the Emotivia xpa-3 amplifier and the Marantz Sr8012 avr and rc64iii ..

[@modulardesignsystems]

Great video Thomas, here are the specs for SYMEF Type S 600VA 28VAC*2 for your setup. Voicing is for outstanding midrange performance, this makes it possible for amplifiers voiced as tweeter amplifiers to outdo it in the tweeter region. Few amplifiers are voiced as bass amplifiers so few will outshine it in that region. 60 Watts 8Ohm 0.01% THD (16400u per rail) 106 Watts 4Ohm 0.02% THD (16400u per rail) 172 Watts 2Ohm 0.04% THD (16400u per rail) Its an amp that can serve you for the next 20 years at those specifications,bias at 130mA per device for operation in class A for the first watt,loan it to your audio buddies ;) other rated specifications with reworked power supply 800VA 45V TRANSFORMER stereo Per channel 173 Watts 8Ohm 0.01% THD (16400u per rail) 291 Watts 4Ohm 0.01% THD (16400u per rail) 477 Watts 2Ohm 0.08% THD (16400u per rail)*overdrive

[@nailsbarr7045]

I want a whopper now. lol! Thomas, I am wishing you good luck that POWER AMP that you produced. 👍🏼

[@daveycrockett5738]

Extremely happy to see you talk about the speakers as I was one of the people that commented about what you were talking about and an owner of them. Enjoyed it overall but I wanted to hear a little bit more deeply about different aspects of the speaker besides just the bass, and note more comparisons to other speakers. I feel like most the video kind of revolved around just the bass , but we didn’t really get to see too much more deeply about some of the other aspects of it that you touched on slightly, like soundstage is it 3-D how big is it? How wide is it? What genres of music does it excel in the best? What genres does it lack in? How is the decay build quality and just all the other audio file terms you usually use to describe a reviewed speaker you do. I’d love to see a part 2. It kinda didn’t feel like a normal review video say as many other speakers you reviewed. But hey man, I still very much enjoyed you taking a little look at the speakers, and was very appreciative of it. Thank you. Yes I agree. The speakers do bass very well but certain genres of music they like much more when it comes to bass as am I a bass lover, so that is why I paired My four Rf7iii‘s two in the front two in the back and My centers in Rc64iii with a JTR Captivator, 4000 ULFLP. Door 18 inch subwoofer tuned to 10.5 Hz oh buddy Thomas I’d love for you to hear that system as man do you think you know bass but until you’ve heard something like this it’s hard to fathom I Power my front stage with a parasound A31, and I will be setting Dolby Atmos speakers up soon as I use the system for home theater and music. All the rest of my rears, and soon to be Doll B atmos speakers are powered by an anthem MRX 720. And I stream from tidal I don’t use any room correction mainly, I listen to music and Dolby surround with the spread option on but from time to time I will listen in two channel and also all channel.bits hard to sometimes be so over critical of my speakers because of things I read or hear on the internet. Like my speakers really lack in mids or are not nearly as detailed or as not information in songs compared to the heritage line or the soundstage is not. 3d. It’s soy silly to let things like that Take away from your sound system. Because I’m reality I am so blessed to have what I do and sometimes I just let things like that get to me and I find myself not enjoying listening to music as much. Now I have casted away such notions and I will refrain my mind to not let church things deter me and how I listen to or enjoy music. You said to have some tissues ready If listening to the lascallas. Man after casting away the negative outside influences which is really just me being to critical? While listening to the song you said you demoed I let tidal play a mix based off that song and I cried. If you’d like to know some of the great songs I think you’d love that we’re in that mix lmk and I’ll enlighten you. Gosh ig if there’s a lesson to anyone out there reading this do not let yourself fall into that trap. We’re all humans and we’re not perfect so sometimes you might but remember to remind yourself what is important and that is what you’re grateful for and what you have and not what you don’t have. X

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, I was worry the video would be too long if I go into details. I hear you, I should have gone into more details.

[@daveycrockett5738]

@@ThomasAndStereo that’s why you make a 2 parter

[@chengo51]

Fifty years ago, I was spending a great deal of my time in auditoriums in Asia. The speakers brands I loved the most were Rogers and Klipsch.....and there was many brands to listen to but certainly not exposed to their best most of the time. Since then my feelings haven't changed, even if others brands or different conceptions styles came to my knowledge. Now you have two different Rogers companies, the "original" in the UK , which produce the famous LS3/5A speakers but also a tube amp that is never tested in the medias.....you should ! Then there is also an American manufacturer doing only tubes amps....never tested as well....and you should !

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, I was supposed to review it actually.

[@BrettinLux]

I love my RF-7 but have the previous version and haven’t heard the new series yet.I know they don’t need much power but they just sound awesome with the Michi S5 stereo amp.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah but the more power the better.

[@eyeshezzy]

These are the best type of videos.. getting real feedback😅

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Glad you like it and it was unfiltered.

[@frederikjacob1985]

I'm very curious for the RP-7FIII's . I own a pair of RP600M's since 3 years. Absolutely love those speakers and made me fall in love with Klipsch speakers. I've heard the heresy 4 's, Forte 4's and Klipschhorns (all on tube pre/power amps) and now i'm thinking of buying heresy's (got a quite small space) on a McIntosh integrated amp. Now driving the RP600M's with a hybrid integrated amp.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

The RF7 sound will be closer to the RP600M than the Forte 4.

[@ufarkingicehole]

I have a theory.. when people listen to live performances, they are likely listening to a PA system often using horns. I believe that is why people find the "live sound " familiar and also why so many people like klipsch.

[@JamesWilliams-gf8gm]

Ok I will bit. When you hear a live band down the road around the corner the sound is unmistakably live. It is not frequency respond as that is all messed up, not sound stage, not integration, not timing as that too can be recorded… it is dynamics. No speaker can truly replicate real dynamics. But horns get closest. Good horns really don’t honk (caused by defraction back down the feed throat) as that has been fixed years ago.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Possible!

[@NA94753]

You're right about people bring familiar with the live sound, even chasing that live sound. That's me. I love Klipsch Heritage Speakers, they deliver that live sound. The RP line and even the RF-7III just doesn't deliver that live sound to my ears. It's missing some of that midrange magic I find in the Klipsch Heritage speakers. Truth is I have a pair of inexpensive PA speakers that have a 1.75" HF driver that I prefer over my RF-7III's.

[@johnbattle2283]

I’ve heard many speakers from $35k and down from KEF, Perlisten , Focal, Magnepans, Martin Logan’s, Revel, B&W and Paradigm. Also sone Wilson Chronos never considered because they are way out of my price range. I decided on the Klipsch RF7’ III’s and I went back and listen to some after I made my decision and I tell you what, I made the right decision. Granted I didn’t get to audition any of them in my own space and gear but the RF7’s are everything I want and need.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for sharing.

[@JuanGCorredorB]

What a song…❤

[@darkshadoku]

I upgraded from the Klipsch R625FA's to the RF7-III's and LOVE them. I got them pre covid before the price jumps so it was definitely a steal and I love everything about them. I have it paired with the RC64III for movies and man, they can play at any volume effortlessly and sound fantastic without breaking a sweat or without distortion. Even when I run them in Stereo for music they also sound detailed to my ears and very pleasing, much easier on the ears than the brightness of the older Reference (R625) series.

[@ROBERT-ml7ml]

The rf iv's will be out next year 😊

[@darkshadoku]

@@ROBERT-ml7ml cool, I bet they will be great. I don’t see myself upgrading anytime soon as these keep me more than happy with my system.

[@oniiz8685]

@@ROBERT-ml7ml Do you have Insider information on Klipsch releasing the RF-7 IV & RC-64 IV next year in 2025 or merely an assumption as it has been 7 years since the RF-7 III & RC-64 III were released back in 2017?

[@ROBERT-ml7ml]

@@oniiz8685 Yes

[@oniiz8685]

@@ROBERT-ml7ml That's great to hear, I just hope they do not go for the Cast Aluminium Feet like the 2018 Reference Premiere & 2022 Reference Premiere II series, not a fan of those at all or the Woofer Copper Trim Rings, the exposed fasteners on the RF-7 III & RC-64 III are not an eyesore at all & will hopefully employ Dual Rear Ports for the RC-64 IV ;)

[@MrVanuvanu]

Klipsch fan here, I had allmost all the series of their speakers over the years. Currently have also the forte iii (WAF is bad with those looks). P.S. Please do a review of the GoldenEar Triton Reference 😇 Best bang for the money from my opinion, would love to see your thoughts abt them. (I have those speakers also, in another league than the forte’s from my opinion 😍 )

[@jerryandlisa27]

I have the klipch RF7 MK1 with yamaha as1200 and technics sl1200g amazing sounding speakers

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Very nice!

[@Prometheus1979]

I have been using Klipsch-RF-82 reference speakers for the last 12 years And still going strong. My next pair pretty soon are the Q-Acoustic 50’s. I want something a little tamer.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Most likely a big difference.

[@johnbattle2283]

I still use my rf82’s in my movie room, don’t think they’ll ever be replaced.

[@joeythedime1838]

Hi Thomas very nice to see new content, hopefully your recovery is going well. Would you have any thoughts about pairing the RF7-III with a Luxman L-509X?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks, I have never heard the Luxman so I have no idea if the combo will be bright or not.

[@user-od9iz9cv1w]

Great insights. When I have heard Klipsh traditional line at shows I was not captured. I think they are something you live with and discover their alure as opposed to seeing it at a glance.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yeah, might give you a different perspective if you try it at home.

[@boxsoft]

After having listened to many speakers, I got the Cornwall IV. The key difference for me was its speed and dynamics. Every regular speaker that I heard seemed sleepy in comparison.

[@drc97086]

Me too.

[@markn1090]

Also have Cornwall IV's, it's honestly hard to go back and listen to other speakers. They just sound boxy, hollow, and veiled.

[@JamesWilliams-gf8gm]

Nice, I chose the JBL 4367 over the Cornwall iv. It was just as dynamic (more so maybe) and more refined with a downward sloping treble from Harman. I also own the RP800F and JBL 590.

[@ebonneau1]

I will do like Thomas … let me tell you a story…. when I went to the dealership I had a little preference for the Cornwall over the la scala because of the dynamique and the base. But for me the la scala have a magic touch in regards of transmitting the emotion and the details… the most incredible in that is my wife who made the final call for the la scala…. Good call wife! I’m so proud! ;)

[@klepp19]

​@@JamesWilliams-gf8gmI recently sold my Cornwall IVs as it was a bit sharp doesn't sound natural like JBL 4367. I am auditioning La Scalas this weekend. If not good I may go with the JBL.

[@jimmyBside]

8:26 Hey T&S nice channel. Instant Sub for me. Funny to hear you rate “basement level”. Never heard anyone else use that terminology. That’s what I was saying about the sound from the new Grado cartridge, I installed on my 80’s Mac rig. Almost 3D- reaching through the floor, (is what I thought). So cool. But…may have pushed the old mid divers too much. Time for a re-foam. Heck, they’re almost as old as me…😂 As far as Klipsch… phenomenal, from my experience. So fascinated by them. Started with The One BT speaker for a family room iPad job. Very nice. Love it. Then, before I went the vintage receiver route, for a office listening spot, I took a flyer on The Fives. Wow, they do it all. It’s all there. “The skin of the drum”, as you say. Now, I’m set up 2-3 feet away and not filling a big room. But, I didn’t expect to be so completely gobsmacked. Can only imagine those RF7’s cranking out some Hip! 🇨🇦🍻

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Nice, thanks for sharing.

[@MichelLinschoten]

In my secondary set up I use a old.80ts kg4 driven by an stack of marantz. I am not familiar with their newer models. But since my bad experiences with the lascala decades ago. I totally steered away from Klipsch until few months ago. Love the sound , it's not on par with my main system (infinity kappa 8 ) currently. But Definitely would love to hear a newer Klipsch

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for sharing!

[@DJ-Way]

When I first got my LaScalas the bass was not really there so I picked up a pair of subs which helped. Moving around the room you could definitely hear that there was much better bass in some areas but not in the seating position. The subs were positioned like your friends subs in the photos. Much better than without subs but still lacking. One day I was looking at pictures of speakers and came across photos of Forte IVs and it hit me, turn the subs around to make a modular Forte LaScala hybrid. OMG it worked. I can walk around the room and the bass is amazing. I hear bass on many records that never seemed to have any. I would not describe it as heavy but more like it is flowing all around you. And it goes deep. It took very little time to achieve amazing results. I wound up with the front of the sub right at the rear of the LaScala. It really is mind blowing what a difference it made.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Interesting suggestion, let me tell my friend.

[@ebonneau1]

Thanks DJ way! During my vacation I try to move the sub around and had the same conclusion. It help the bass in some area of the room but doesn’t really change anything at the siting point. Also having these huge sub near the table will impact our day to day life. (So not worth) Now the sub are back in the front, placing the sub in the back is a good idea but I will have to bring the la scala closer. I’m afraid to lose some sound stage but I will try it. Maybe the Solution is to reduce the sub size… For now the main advantage of the sub is for the electronic music and a little bit more presence overall. It doesn’t improve the mid base (freq over 100hz) in these area the biggest impact have been to introduce le gallion or the Bruno amp. Can you tell me what are the amp you use with your la scala?

[@DJ-Way]

@@ebonneau1 I’m using two SVS SB1000 pro Last night I played Fading Sun for the first time, at moderate volume, shelves were vibrating at the opposite end of the house. Move your LaScalas closer so you can squeeze the subs in on the sides while also reducing your toe in. If you gain the bass as I did and maintain your sound stage all is good. If you gain bass and lose staging then you can look for smaller subs. If it doesn’t improve bass then you had fun being an audio nerd 🤓😊

[@ebonneau1]

@@DJ-Waythanks for the advise 👍

[@wingeladvokat1920]

Hab die RF7 MK II - Klipsch ist wunderschön.

[@jessicaembers924]

Try mixing the RF7-lll and The Cornwall TOGETHER On two separate amps. I swear by that Old school New school blend of sound. It's phenomenal.

[@bmultimate1One]

I'll be seriously considering buying the upcoming Klipsch RF7IV

[@chriss881000]

Upcoming? U mean 2-4 yrs from now?

[@BobbyDazzler888]

@@chriss881000rumors out that 2024 will have an update

[@oniiz8685]

@@BobbyDazzler888 I believe we will see a refresh some time next year in 2025 as I was told by @ROBERT-ml7ml a couple of days ago, it seems about right as it is typically a 7-9 year gap between RF-7 releases, the RF-7 debuted in 2001, RF-7 II in 2010, RF-7 III in 2017 so perhaps there will be an announcement towards the end of 2024 about the IV iteration of RF-7 & RC-64 for an eventual release next year ;)

[@bobslave7063]

@ThomasAndStereo thanks for a great review. What do you think about Klipsch RF 7 iii vs Arendal Sound 1723 towers? And do you think RF 7 may match with Arendal 1723 center and surrounds for a home theatre usage?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is better to have all 3 front speakers the same for timbre reasons. Would need to AB test to know but from memory, the Arendale is a more neutral speaker while the RF7 is more explosive and fun.

[@samb6132]

great speakers

[@plaubelmakina8916]

I have Heresy III with a Wilsonton R8 amp. Not perfect, but very fun and engaging.

[@dougg1075]

Those LaScalas are to die for. Just add sub

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

THANKS THOMAS,🤗…MY COMMENT ON KLIPSCH SPEAKERS IS…NO COMMENT…🤷‍♂️ NO EXPERIENCE 💚💚💚

[@yangarzon8994]

I own forte 3, for over 8 month, cannot say their flaws, cause I don't find any so far on my setup, I use previously, jbl L112, totem rainmaker, focal aria 926, also heard a lot my neighbors Cornwall 4, my forte 3 are just the best match for my room and listening taste, paired with H390, match is perfect

[@erwindewit4073]

To be honest, I'm starting to get more curious about that La Scala now! Thanks Thomas, they are SO expensive! 😅

[@klepp19]

I will audition La Scalas this weekend!

[@erwindewit4073]

@@klepp19 Then I'm quite jealous this weekend! Those things must be amazing! I just invested in a subwoofer instead. A Rel 212SE for my bookshelf speakers. Still, I'd like to hear La Scalas once really. Even though I'm scared I might want them so badly.....

[@rasskall-aka-Luke_A.]

Nice review (as usual)! I'm a Burger King burger guy (fries are McD, however) when I'm not eating instant noodles. And if I ever become a KZbin audio reviewer, I'll stick to desktop audio components. Youngins like Jay and Shawn can do the heavy lifting.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Haha, yeah I am too old for this.

[@jstoli996c4s]

I haven’t heard the RF7iii’s, but I did own the RF7i’s for 13 years. Monstrously powerful speakers and unreal wall shaking bass. Also notoriously bright and severely lacking midrange. Great for home theater for sure. My current JBL HDI 3800’s are light years better except for low bass.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for sharing!

[@jeff17talk]

Hey Thomas I see the Brunoco amp is in for review. Any initial thoughts? When do you think the review will be coming?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is very very good, I will not be reviewing it because it is not a review sample, Eric who you saw in this video bought one and he lent it to me to try. I did leave a short 'review' on my Patreon page, in short, airy, very good bass and it does have the 6L6 sound but with a bit more body than usual.

[@sickjohnson]

Glad to hear you like them Thomas, I like the original version better, the new type of gold plastic drivers color the sound too much for my liking, and I am a fan. Do you remember the Klipsch palladium towers they made like 15 years ago, right before their ownership changed and they killed them? The new website they have really limits what you can see now days...liked how you could get to see all their movie theater commercial equipment before.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Oh, I don't know much about the old Klipsch, will check them out.

[@sickjohnson]

@@ThomasAndStereo The first gen RF7-I was just paper/pulp with like some gold paint on them except the dust cover was black...mids and mid bass was more natural to my ears...bass was slightly less if I remember correctly, maybe 2 db?

[@davidsagarra9841]

I upgraded from Klipsch RP280F to Klipsch Forte IV around 18 months ago; the other candidate was the RF7III but the mids of the Fortes are much better than the ones of the RF7IIIs. The Fortes are way too sensitive to placement; if you put them too close to the wall you get boomy bass; if you put them too inside the room the bass goes away; you really need to invest hours of experimenting with that distance and toeing.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Oh, thanks for the info about placement.

[@SmallRoomAudio]

Thomas! Send the EL34 mystery amp to England for me to review, pretty please - that would be epic! 😃 🎶 🎉

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Omg, I was trying to find your channel because I remember watching your channel in the past but suddenly I could no longer find it. I have 3 EL34 amps under the Galion brand that I am considering bringing to market from super cheap to super expensive. This mysterious sure cheap EL34 one would not hit the market for at least 6 months because I need to make sure it measures well. Perhaps you want to give the TS120SE a spin instead? You can reach me at [e-mail]

[@drc97086]

High efficiency loudspeakers are dynamic, which translates to a real feel. Don’t understand why people simply want detail. Don’t do it for me.

[@1314arun]

What you said 👍🏼

[@NosEL34]

I dont know about a hidden gem so much, to me the RF-7's had always been one of the better/best Klipsch outside of the Heritage type speakers. Im not a huge Klipsch (or horn) fanboy and havent heard any of these Mkiii's so im referring to the RF-7's of old. The originals weren't bad, i think even the RF-5's with some mods to tame the high end could really rock out as well. Both these speakers could rock out loudly.

[@redkh2017]

I love my klipschs rp 6000f

[@golfjunkymusicjunky8370]

I OWN the forte 3…..just great with leben cs 600x……..tube sound live

[@liamporter1137]

I like Klipsch but can be bright at times. They can be addictive and dynamic.

[@RedSinter]

😂 Hey Thomas till I was divorced I had a pair of the Older Heresy's 90's Model that the more I listened the more I loved them high volume or low. The one caveat to my ears the Bass was not meaty it was there just not strong. I found them at mid volume to a bit lower I could enjoy them regardless of lack of meat. I was recently floored by the 5's and understand the 7's are even better. But having, I think I've mentioned some of this before, maybe. As I have 3 receivers well that rules out the 5's or 7's. But should I ever move on. They are a definite maybe I understand there are also some Powered Speaker containers and I'd rather compare first.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Interesting, I had the same experience with older Klipsch.

[@cpaint69]

Hi Thomas, any indicative time when the new Galion TS-A20 amp will be available and the estimated price?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Within 3 months hopefully, less than $4k USD, keep in mind it is made in Canada and the capacitors I use are $400 USD unlike other amps with $5 to $30. God level resolution.

[@franksandy2145]

Mr Thomas In your opinion is the SE84UF02.1 and Klispch La Scala a good combination?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It will sound ok but a bit of a mismatch. $1k amp to drive a $15k speaker...

[@tchernob]

For the sound of your videos you need to use a deesser for sure! and probably eq and compression that will be way better. That can be all done after recording. But the deesser is mandatory here

[@guystpierrecomposer]

Before using deesser and compression, Thomas need to lower the mic level because it is clipping (probably at the input)

[@tchernob]

@@guystpierrecomposer I'm not giving him a tutorial but some key word he ll be able to look for. What to listen to and what effect it has. In this video the mic is high, do t think it clips but in any case the s sound is like a snake everytime so...

[@look8234]

I think Preamp is key! no matter what speakers you using it, matching is key!

[@Novilicious]

If the RF-IIIs got a mid range upgrade to a 3-way (and they are due for one), that would be game over. But yes, that midrange is lacking!

[@thomasschafer7268]

Better a 2 1/2 way!!

[@mcaxz]

Brazilian friends? I have Magico S5 but i would love to listen to the Jubilee's...

[@ThomasAndStereo]

French. I am in Quebec and French is the main language here.

[@dougg1075]

I have the Klipsch Heresy iv . To think I hesitated. To me they are huge midrange machines . I have two Carver Sunfire subs I bought in 1998 new and it sounds amazing. I have Focals , LSA SIGNATURES, Bostons and LS/35a , all I love , but I bought the Heresy IV’s because they were ported and 10db down in the bass . These things can bring you to tears. I got into the HiFi smooth as budda sound ( LSA and 35a) but I was bored . The Heresy’s were just the antidote, having fun again.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

How are the LSA signatures? I am curious.

[@dougg1075]

@@ThomasAndStereo HiFi sounding. Silky smooth and no fatigue . I’ll never sell those either.

[@dougg1075]

@@ThomasAndStereo very HiFi sounding. Silky smooth and no fatigue . Great bass

[@rasta.j]

My samsung Q950 11.1.4 sound bar has a flatter response than the RF7 III's, my Polk Reserve speakers have a flatter response than the RF7 III's.... which speaker do I listen to the most, my RF7 III's. At the end of the day, GR Research is also a salesmen, and you can find a flaw in almost anything. One thing to note, is if your ears are at midwoofer height (the dang speaker is so tall, that when I'm seated on the couch I'm well below the tweeter) there actually isn't a midrange dip that is pronounced, maybe 2-3db at most. Considering the imaging and Soundstage the RF7III's offer, what that translates to, when listening to live music, is a layering of depth in the sound stage, the singers are further away, the drums are closer, the guitar is somewhere in between. Nothing is soft, just feel like staggered distances... quite a unique sensation and sense of realism. The long winded paragraph can be summed up in the following, they're a perfectly imperfect speaker, don't die on the hill of searching for a flat response. Enjoy your V8 manual car, especially while the electric tesla does it all technically better.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Love the expression, "perfectly imperfec", 100% agree.

[@michaelmityok1001]

Klipsch Heritage series is not my thing, but maybe these might be. Btw what is the upcoming Galion Class A amp output wattage into 8/4 ohms, kinda in the market right now for something to pair with Mofi Sourcepoint 10s.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

It is a 20w amp into 8 ohm and 10w into 4 ohm. Current feedback design as opposed to voltage feedback design so it is the reversed.

[@LuxAudio389]

Thomas you need to get your hands on an Aurender N20 Streamer with a DAC as good or better to match it. You won't go back.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@simonirvine1628]

I thought that was the view of the city at night out of the 4 windows and about 1300ms later realised that they were 4 cheap pictures. Hmmm

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Those are absorption panels, he had a pro take a photo of Montreal.

[@jw4x41]

How would these speakers match up with my Marantz sr 7015?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Should not be a problem. The only thing is are you ok with lively speakers.

[@my2cents395]

One way to get better sounding speakers is to get a better amp. The speakers you have now may be better than you think.

[@josephchamberlain3681]

Are you new here?

[@look8234]

I agree

[@AlvarWahle]

When I started working in the student’s radio they told the newcomers "during interviews, don’t say ‘mhm’, ‘okey’ etc - it’s annoying for the listener"

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Sure, just need to get better at it.

[@NA94753]

I have the RP-280F, RF7-III & HERESY II. I thought the RP-280F sounded good but nothing to write home about, I thought the RF-7III sounded great in comparison with the RP-280F. Then I did a side by side comparison with my old Heresy II and the RF-7III and felt really let down by the RF-7III!, they just seemed lacking in the mid-range for me when I did the A-B test. Maybe it was the mid-horn, the paper woofer, both idk. Truth be told, with my taste in sound I wish I'd bought the cornwall's instead of the RF-7III's that now onlly are used in my home theater. I know they're great sounding speakers but wish I never A-B tested them next to any Klipsch Heritage line of speaker.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Yes, that is one big difference, midrange resolution.

[@richardcomerford1828]

5:37 - Perhaps designed in the USA, but I'm not so sure they aren't built in China, like many other quality audio products are.

[@rhorto01]

Depends on the speaker. RF-7's and all the Heritage line are made in Arkansas.

[@michaelburton5198]

I'm A Klipsch Owner But I Was Thinking 🤔 Arendal, Kef's Or Martin Logan Speakers (F200) Ect.Ect Far As Upgrading, 🤔 But After Viewing The Content, I Wonder Now What I'D Be Missing Out If I Decided To Stay In The Klipsch Family!!!! ( RF-7 lll And RC-64 lll Ect.Ect) So What Do U Think Please????

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Well for one, resolution, unless you move up the forte line. Check out my video on the Matrix Sabre 3 streamer to see what I mean about resolution.

[@michaelburton5198]

@@ThomasAndStereo , Are U Referring To "My HI Fi System After 70 Speakers????" And Will This Aswell For Home Theater 🎥 System Set Up ?????

[@yournightmare9999]

​@@michaelburton5198Before spend money for expensive matrix sabre 3 I suggest buying better amplifier like Emotiva XPA-DR3 delivers 450 watts RMS into 8 Ohms, and 600 watts RMS into 4 Ohms, all three channels driven, with less than 0.1% THD

[@59seank]

Gr-Research has a fix for the flawed Klipsch RF7-III. I'm amazed you guys failed to hear these problems! ;) Klipsch RF7-III

[@ThomasAndStereo]

I aware of that video for a long time so I did pay attention. I have been voicing and measuring speakers recently too. The 1 khz dip, perhaps that is the reason why I hear a 'smooth' midrange. This 1khz area, I had an interesting discussion with a musician and music mixer not long ago and if she could, she would eliminate it with her equalizer during mixing. I would just say this, you might enjoy this speaker the way it is, or you might prefer it with the GR fix. You have to listen to it to be sure.

[@rasta.j]

My samsung Q950 11.1.4 sound bar has a flatter response than the RF7 III's, my Polk Reserve speakers have a flatter response than the RF7 III's.... which speaker do I listen to the most, my RF7 III's. At the end of the day, GR Research is also a salesmen, and you can find a flaw in almost anything. One thing to note, is if your ears are at midwoofer height (the dang speaker is so tall, that when I'm seated on the couch I'm well below the tweeter) there actually isn't a midrange dip that is pronounced, maybe 2-3db at most. Considering the imaging and Soundstage the RF7III's offer, what that translates to, when listening to live music, is a layering of depth in the sound stage, the singers are further away, the drums are closer, the guitar is somewhere in between. Nothing is soft, just feel like staggered distances... quite a unique sensation and sense of realism. The long winded paragraph can be summed up in the following, they're a perfectly imperfect speaker, don't die on the hill of searching for a flat response. Enjoy your V8 manual car, especially while the electric tesla does it all technically better.

[@terrywho22]

Glad you mentioned this. Some people like the colored sound produced by removing parts of the midrange (just look at the popularity of the smiley-faced eq), others want natural and accurate reproduction of sound. You just have to decide what is best for you. For me, these are a hard pass, but not everyone will agree.

[@NBK6KP9]

From my experience with the rp600m...very exciting sound but imaging is meh

[@tonydillinger2553]

Im looking at 8000f II?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Should be fun.

[@sza2562]

My Klipsch Reference are made in China.

[@thedistortedguy]

They seem to be home theatre speakers

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Sure, they can be used that way.

[@thedistortedguy]

@@ThomasAndStereo that’s what I don’t like about most speakers that look like towers and can be used for home theatre as well. That’s what I hate about them and most others. ☺️

[@BrettinLux]

Definitely can be used for movies but they are awesome stereo speakers👍The tight low down bass is very controlled.

[@mpi5850]

I think what he’s saying is, they look like they belong in a home theatre. They are ugly imho, and besides being way too big for most living rooms, if you cater to nice design in your house you would never even consider these things.

[@dan-sc7fm]

Then look at the Forte iv. Classic look, and great sound if you have the right room, positioning. And, I use an ART 30 band equalizer to tweak them along with a few other things which audiophiles would be critical of, but it works well.

[@CUDAbuster]

I've owned the RF-7 and Cornwalls for a few years and like them both for very different reasons. They behave very differently based on the amplification type and power and components hooked to them. I got the RF-7 as part of my surround system including the massive RC-64 center channel and rp-8000 for rear surrounds. In this capacity, powered with a fat warm amplifier with lots of current flow (talking class AB here), the RF-7 can be amazing, as in really amazing, but hook them up with class D or a receiver - forget it. As stereo speakers, I find the RF-7 can be quite good also, given you pump some serious dB out of them. It's as they get better and more integrated the louder you play them and I think they will outperform anything else Klipsch makes in their regard. This however is not their best use, their best use is for hard hitting Dolby playback. Obviously the Cornwalls, Khorns and LaScala have much more detailed and prevalent midrange and I also love that type of sound also. I do prefer the looks and geometry of the RF-7 over those other heritage offerings and the RF-7 is less footprint. The La Scala was a speaker I always had an interest in, but just couldn't get past the lack of bottom end, even though those can be some of the emotionally engaging speaker ever with certain types of music and amplification. I also always felt the LaScala LF cabinet was not that good of use for it's volume. For example, you could place an 18" direct radiating woofer in there and get massive deep bass to compliment the HF hornes. I think the LF horn may have been a cary over from its industrial application, i.e. to protect the drivers. Anyway, the only mistake you can make with the RF-7 or the heritage line is incorrect equipment pairing. Spend some time messing around with the setup and it will pay off.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Thanks for this amazing comment.

[@CUDAbuster]

Thanks T. One other important note about all of those Klipsch discussed, is that they will sound quite a bit different after a couple hundred hours of moderate to heavy use compared to fresh out of the box. They get much smoother with use. Also, when you actually look at value based on the quality of the drivers (something that matters a lot to me), the woofers on the RF-7 are much higher quality than the woofers in the heritage series. Seriously, the woofers in the Cornwalls, LaScala and Khorns are like $50. The first thing I'd do with the heritage series is upgrade the woofer to a high end pro driver costing a minimum $300/each. I may do this with my Cornwalls at some point when I discovered that they couldn't keep up with the drum speed on a track from Metallica. The RF-7 have no problem with this.

[@Morido-1]

Warning!!... Horns are addictive!

[@jorgdietz7254]

La scala and you Need sub… - i only hear base in your conversation- over all i am not impessed with Klipsch you are right La scala does a lot of things wrong - by the way i had the Pathos myself- its nice

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Pathos is amazing!

[@user-xg6zz8qs3q]

4 years ago I bought the Klipsch RP600M because the hype on KZbin was so high and they were only 300€. I was disappointed from day 1 to day 700. I don’t get it. They sound so dull in the midrange and devoid of life. I would like to audition higher end Klipsch speakers but they’re out of my price range. Some day I got a Google ad for Closer Acoustics OGY speakers and I bought them. And I have been happy since.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Not everyone likes McDonald.

[@user-xg6zz8qs3q]

@@ThomasAndStereo I love the analogy! I prefer Wendy’s. In my opinion the Q Acoustics 3020 run circles around the Klipsch RP600M. It’s not a technically better speaker. It’s just a different flavor. Anyways, the OGY may as well be the most underrated speakers out there. Only Jay’s Iyagi reviewed them and the response was shy. I can’t imagine a better a speaker under $2k.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

@@user-xg6zz8qs3q Thanks! Ogy? If they reach out to me, I will say yes to give them a try then.

[@mpi5850]

I’m sure they sound good, but at that price point I also expect great styling, and those are UGLY. Fine for a home theatre I guess (although at that price point, why not go for the much sexier KEF R11 Metas). I would never consider them for my living room.

[@ThomasAndStereo]

Meta R11, I remember they sounded good but not as fun.

[@mpi5850]

If the horn sound is what you’re after, sure, but I would go for the Heritage series any day of the week over these. They look like the type of speaker you have when you’re a teenager and have no taste in design, lol.

[@kirkstarson]

So, what am I missing here? Comparing a pair of $2400 to a pair of $6,400 speakers? I don't know much, but I would hazard a guess the $6,400 speakers would sound better?

[@ThomasAndStereo]

As I said in the video, not if you value dynamic punchy bass as your priority.