The Prusa SL1S redefines SPEED!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Easily one of the best thumbnails ever. EVER.

[@xj_overlander]

Right? It looked like a full on meme shitpost. I love it so much

[@ericBcreator]

With a little help from Maxell ;-)

[@reallyiffy]

Made me watch tell me by p ditty

[@3DMusketeers]

Have to agree! but this is a quiet printer and the thumbnail was based off of LOUD speakers. Still awesome, especially with the top blowing off the mars 3!

[@dotJata]

@@xj_overlander it's a parody of the maxell hifi advertisment.

[@seedmoreuser]

The thumbnail is a masterpiece. Great reference!

[@retroluminico]

Now you have to answer which one you prefer: 60 or 90 minutes magnetic tape cassettes? There’s no way you get that reference in the thumbnail unless you lived in the pre-cd era It is a masterpiece

[@seedmoreuser]

@@retroluminico neither... I prefer my tapes high fidelity!

[@VincentVeak]

I love how you cover resin printers as well as FDM and general engineering tech and principles. IMO it's refreshing content while still being in line with the channel and is more entertaining and engaging than the boring FDM only channels

[@MadeWithLayers]

Thanks! I'm hoping to take the channel more into a diverse direction in the future, too - keeps me interested in the topics and (hopefully) provides a wider range of inspiration for everyone watching, too!

[@TROPtastic]

@@MadeWithLayers I'm excited to see your production value and presentation style applied to other (tech or tech adjacent?) topics :)

[@marsgizmo]

Excellent review and great printer, I’m also looking forward to get one, especially for the tilting VAT.

[@viesturssilins858]

VAT is not an acronym in this case.

[@charlesfe]

The “resin vat too full” error occurs if you fill the vat while the machine is powered off - the platform for the vat skews slightly forward when it is unpowered. I figured this out through trial and error, I had thought a sensor was bad at first.

[@darkracer1252]

it's normal for such things to happen. same thing happens in reverse with our espresso machine. if you empty out one of the containers while it's powered off it doesn't know you did so.

[@spamcan9208]

That thumbnail made me feel old lol. I remember that ad from my childhood. How nostalgic lol.

[@christophbeer3417]

Just installed the upgrade yesterday, the speed is amazing!

[@BrianHamilton01]

Agreed on all your points … but still just love that they did what ever needed to get a minimum cost upgrade path. Now if they did a large format printer I could completely transfer over to Prussia products only ;)

[@NmEter2]

Your thumbnail recreation of the famus image "Blown-away Man" by Steven Steigman is amazing :)

[@TorIvanBoine]

Thanks

[@MadeWithLayers]

Thank you very much!

[@mahdiyussuf9804]

Ditto on the thumbnail being brilliant. Great content!

[@StormBurnX]

Can't wait to see third party kits that are compatible with the upgrade kit, because as you mentioned the board and frame and enclosure are objectively not worth 1600 euro

[@3DMusketeers]

Love this look at the printer Tom, nice work! The intro is amazing! I was surprised to see that this is the priciest printer you have though, figured there must be something more expensive in there! As always, great shots, editing, and audio. Of course, the video is great too! Keep it up!

[@sagichnicht6748]

Am I the only one who thinks it is absolutely ridiculous that we have to censore famous art just to please some super prudent American corporation? No surprise some Viennese museums pulled off a stunt by opening an Only Fans account for those statues and paintings.

[@RicoElectrico]

Get this: We were moving a few month ago. In the piles of stuff there was a Polish lifestyle magazine "Sukces" from 1992, just as capitalism entered Poland. They appear to have had a photoshoot in each issue. There was a topless woman in a garden, in kind of glamour, kind of suggestive poses. I guess nobody gave a damn back then and while Poland was infatuated with American lifestyle, certainly puritanism has not been imported yet. XD

[@kylek.3689]

That puritanical tyranny extends beyond just KZbin, and extensively into open source software as well.

[@AllDayBikes]

I love that Maxell reference hahah

[@Gnat-Swarm]

I’m liking and commenting for that thumbnail ALONE!

[@SpencerSlaughter426]

Dude, thumbnail is flawless

[@jjdawg9918]

Really amazing review! And still I love my old Maxell tapes.

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

I won't miss a video from Thomas because he is the best DIY hairdresser I know. Also he is explaining with care.

[@calebland6246]

I love the thumbnail!

[@Repkord]

Well done Tom. As always, enjoy the time, detail, objectivity, and thoughtfulness you put into your reviews. The snake head innuendos are really just a bonus on top of all that. 🤣

[@HairyTheCandyMan]

Bro, I really enjoyed the cover picture of the video. Nostalgic.

[@UncleJessy]

Man oh man really tempted to pick one of these up and this video is certainly not helping haha

[@hellterminator]

Looking at the price solves that problem for me very effectively.

[@crussty3d]

Wouldn't have to worry as much about those power outages- your prints would be done!

[@MakerHacks]

I ordered the upgrade as soon as I saw it was a thing but now I am wondering if I should hold off installing :D The speed increase is such a big draw though. Nnnnnnnnnnnnng confuse! 🤔

[@MakerHacks]

@@crussty3d or would be well within UPS battery storage limits :)

[@louisclarke7300]

@@hellterminator same

[@eggspresso]

I’d be interested in seeing your take on the Photon Ultra with the TI DLP system. Seems like a more powerful light engine that might work better with more “industrial” resins.

[@JKC40]

my take: too low resolution.

[@Presbiter]

@@JKC40 its dlp man...720p dlp is actually more detail than 4k monochrome lcd

[@BH4x0r]

@@Presbiter Not really..

[@Presbiter]

@@BH4x0r Of course it is. But to know that one must understand the technology. One very significant thing fe dlp does not produces shadows, lcd does. May be look up what that means in detail and learn something, just a suggestion^^

[@BH4x0r]

@@Presbiter I know DLP basically are tiny MEMS mirrors that will reflect or won't and that way can get better contrast than LCD, but it's still less than ideal as a 720p DLP chip is unable to produce as small details, if you get what i mean. if it was a 4K chip that'd be better.

[@ShypaxGaming]

Cool that you are using the Statens museum for kunst collection, theres so much fantastic stuff in there in ultra high res - im happy my country is providing stuff like this for free :)

[@electronicsandewastescrapp7384]

Those extra large SLA printers that unky jesse reviewed would definitely benefit from that vat tilt mechanism. I'm curious why prusa didn't just add a slope to the one side of the vat to keep it from spilling with the same amount of resin.

[@nunucello]

Thank you Thomas !!!!!! Amazing thumbnail too !!!!

[@johnallen8094]

I upgraded because i wore out the led i had trouble with getting the tilt mechanism level and was having print adhesion problems on larger builds on the old smaller platform once tightened I managed to get it level and it served me well for the last two years. The upgrade was a walk in the park until I created a slight abrasion on the ribbon of the LCD screen and had to order a new one the print speed is phenomenal should have done it sooner but I have to agree it’s a tight work area and I rushed to get it up and running and it hit me in the wallet.

[@JJSnel-uh3by]

I have a strong feeling that I, NEED IT!!

[@TheJushirou]

just bought upgrade kit for mine! thx for a review

[@Shadow__X]

This NEEDS to get cheaper, it will be the next manufacturing revolution with that incredible amount of detail

[@ZURAD]

this sneeds

[@RicoElectrico]

Filament FDM is way cheaper and usually good enough. They complement each other, covering slightly different niches.

[@bigboy6704]

I'm blown away by that thumbnail

[@leinadreign3510]

I will get the upgrade, when my screen dies. Best replacement part ever! And since I have already build-your-own SL1 kit, Im not afraid of turning it apart! Amazing! So far Im really glad I have chosen the Prusa SL1 over all the cheap chinese brands! (Mainly because I didnt wanted to support china with my money). I guess I have now to print more, so my screen breaks faster!

[@pibyte]

A new Sanladerer video! YEAH!

[@victorp.8686]

Love to see the Prusa SL1S and Anycubic Photon Mono X side by side comparison.

[@stug77]

I like the Maxell thumbnail. Good work.

[@steven5810]

why, at 5:14 with 4 items in the center screen, is the item to the right out of focus? It seems your camera was searching at that point. to bad the items seems well printed

[@privat9605]

Would be interested to see how it stacks up against a Phrozen Sonic Mini 4K or 8K

[@gaellafond6367]

1:30 You recently made a video about how you should do your disclaimer about reviewed products. I want to say, that was perfect. It flows well with the content

[@jordanelevons1685]

How does it compare to a Form 2 or 3? Are they the benchmark at this price bracket?

[@MadeWithLayers]

I'll be getting a Form 3 for review soon!

[@OhHeyTrevorFlowers]

That speed at this price point is wild!

[@Caddy666]

so its faster, but if i wanted it for war hammer type figures (detailed, with intention to pain them), etc, how much worse/better is it than the 4k ones that everyone recommends?

[@tomiesz]

depends mainly on pixel density and how big you want them. Since a lot of the 4k printers also have a bigger buildplate than the sl1s (mainly thinking of elegoo saturn), you end up with pretty much the same pixel density (~500 ppi in both saturn and sl1s by my calculations)

[@tomiesz]

Something like the phrozen sonic mini would maybe translate to a better quality print (~700 ppi), but tbh, in my experience 500 ppi makes beautiful prints anyways. And paint helps cover up a lot of imperfections

[@Agamemnon2]

Warhammer minis are usually painted in complex, weathered, and intricate schemes of a dozen coats or more, so I there'd definitely be diminishing returns on additional pixel density.

[@MakerHacks]

I mainly do tabletop minis and greeblies and stuff on my resin printers and the main advantage here is speed. If, you are like me, I tend to send your Mars/Saturn prints over night, then there are minimal advantages. For me I ordered the upgrade for my SL1 because of daytime prototyping where the round trip time improvement is worth more than the upgrade costs. For when I am DMing an RPG I could definitely see me running off a quick piece of scatter or a BBG though knowing I can cut the print time down ... As someone said elsewhere, the resolution/rendering improvement is moot when you are 1) painting and 2) going for table ready rather than holding it an inch from your eyeball 😆

[@MakerHacks]

@@tomiesz I have happily played against FDM printed armies - it's all about your gaming crew really :)

[@truetech4158]

Haha, I like that cover photo. Reminds of the Bose speaker picture I have in the garage/area52.

[@spamcan9208]

I thought it was a Maxell ad?

[@Holztransistor]

@@spamcan9208 Yes, Maxell it was.

[@AlbertoNoys]

Wow, awesome thumbnail! Great job

[@juhajuntunen2557]

If your family has female person included (or you are/had it otherwise), UV nail apparatus is good for resin printed works to afterprint hardening, 30sec UV radiaton, turn 180 degree, 30 sec again and its done. Of course cleaning must do manually but why not use what you have?

[@dennislink1300]

Thomas it's been a year plus since your SL1S review and a big year for 3D Resin printers. Any thoughts about a year end "round-up"> Is the SL1S still tops or has the 8K 10" LCD Mono screens pushed their way to the top? And how about your recommendations/thoughts for 2023? Where is this all going...you know in resin?

[@5Komma5]

That may actually get me to purchase one of those dirty pigs. I don't really want to print with resin at home but the speed is impressive. The Mini or this one ... both would make a great addition to my MK3S.

[@KT-pv3kl]

save yourself the trouble and get an anycubic mono for 180$ same print volume , same print time 1800$ less markup.

[@zaprodk]

I think the old vat vas a cast aluminum, bead blasten and milled on the mating surfaces, looking at the surface finish.

[@photelegy]

So why don't you print them laying down when the duration only depends on the hight of the print? Only because of the finish and the needed supports?

[@The_Mimewar]

Is it live?

[@charlesfe]

I bought one of these at the start of the ChiTu board lock down. Having used it for a few weeks, I’d trade all of my printers for a second one. They are expensive, but wow. Just wow.

[@spinnetti]

Nice, but I just don't see a consumer business case for this over the Mars. Its not 6x better certainly

[@SianaGearz]

It would be even faster if you could do continuous printing with a DLP projector and projecting down on a descending plate into the liquid... i wonder if that's coming back then?

[@ChrisHarmon1]

I owned a Voxelab Proxima 6" and the prints from it were absolutely incredible even for a resin. I sold it and "upgraded" to a Elegoo Saturn which is great for more printing room but has issues the Voxelab did not. I would really like to compare the new Proxima 8.9 as it's likely similar hardware to the Saturn just later to market. Even more interesting is the Elegoo Jupiter. I had thought about joining the Jupiter's Kickstarter but it's clear other models with the same print area will release within a few months of the Jupiter and possibly be more polished. In the meantime I'm waiting for my formbot 2.4 kit to ship.

[@3dtechnologies153]

Would love to see a review on a photocentric printer.

[@ahmetcemturan]

Loved the thumbnail..

[@blacklanner5886]

I'm completely new to 3d printing. Each resin printer only lasts 500 hours before needing to replace the screen but this one lasts 2000 hours?!? 3:15 What's that about?

[@arthurmorgan8966]

7:53 I didn’t think of that. Finally I’ve found someone with dirtier mind than mine.

[@plaisthos]

I also upgrade my devices by adding a sticker to them!

[@francistaylor1822]

Racing stripes are the way to go

[@Holztransistor]

@@francistaylor1822 But only combined with British racing green.

[@REDSIX]

Thank you Thomas Salamander

[@andreasstromberg]

Use the parts for an dyi curing station?

[@louissenn9897]

Mine is on the way😁

[@JoelMPanchevre]

Okay how do I get that material list to load all the siraya products on my prusa sl1s speed. I cant figure it out.

[@VampireOnline]

Which color is that for the resin?! I'm in love with it!

[@MadeWithLayers]

It's Siraya Tech's Fast resin in the "Navy Grey" color!

[@hellterminator]

@@MadeWithLayers Yes, far superior to the military gray, in my opinion.

[@AtomicGoober]

You could pick up a Transform for $600 more, so I really don't see that price point being competitive. And unless they have a patent on that tilt mechanic, I would wait for others manufacturers to catch up and wait for a better deal.

[@mikeyearwood]

Why isn't it top down? Breaking off the bottom seems goofy, like doing the hokey-pokey.

[@AdmiralKodai]

it might be fast... but shipping and getting it isn't. I ordered mine on August 21, 2021. And I'm still haven't gotten it. :(

[@alexandredevert4935]

The price is not that crazy. The accuracy of the printed parts are on par with what a quality desktop CNC would output. The CNC alone would be double the price of the full SL1S setup, and then you need to buy additional tooling. That means we have 2x cheaper way to make molds for resin casting

[@crosswindjones]

Any improvement in the usability, smell, cleanup? I'd buy one of these too if it weren't for the mess.

[@MadeWithLayers]

SL1(S) has an activated charcoal filter for the smell, combined with the CW1 for washing and curing it's as good as it gets (for now)

[@PortalFPV]

I tried Siraya Tech Sculpt resin but after a wash cycle, my prints were still a little tacky. This was even when using fresh 99% IPA in a wash cycle for 10 min. I've even tried running they cycle twice and it didn't help. But I hear such good things about Siraya tech that I must be doing something wrong. However I've switched to Elegoo's resin and I've had no problems.....so yeah 🤨

[@Cadaverine1990]

I end up putting siraya resin in a curing box for 10 minutes. Usually takes care of the issue.

[@PortalFPV]

@@Cadaverine1990 yeah...I've tripled that and still end up with tacky parts

[@ericlotze7724]

This is fast and great of course…but imagine what we can get once the patent on the CLIP process expires…

[@tiemanowo]

3:00 wait.. what? those printers only last for 500 hours? 2000 is also not that much in my opinion. I was not aware of such a short lifespan of those SL printers.

[@dinosoarskill17]

That classic thumbnail man. What brand was that from? Maxell?

[@MadeWithLayers]

Spot on!

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

has price of resin gone down?

[@harjoat]

Love the thumbnail 😝

[@osiskars]

Is it still good? A year later and all these other printers out there. Is this now outdated?

[@senurasenaratne5782]

asuming ur loaded and have cash to burn, prusa is good for funtional parts and ultrafast speeds and the competitions better are ultra detail for toys (ultra slow)

[@TheRoon4660]

I would like to see what people are doing with IDEX printers. I think they have huge potential for creativity.

[@TROPtastic]

Some of the points in this video (like 6:27) are a much better argument for the SL1S than what Prusa chose for their website

[@technodrone313]

can you use bong resin?

[@kspokermike1629]

How many hours of run time before needing to change the carbon filter? And also, how hard is it to change/replace the carbon filter? Thanks. (Im still researching resin printers for my first buy).

[@MadeWithLayers]

Mine so far still does a great job of keeping the resin smell down. If I'd have to guess, I'd say it should last a couple hundred hours if printing easily. Swapping it is two screws on the back of the printer - takes less than 60 seconds to swap.

[@kspokermike1629]

@@MadeWithLayers Thanks so much for the response. I’ve had my MK3 for 3 years now and the printer is bulletproof. Works every time I fire it up. I was told by many when I purchased my MK3 that it was too expensive, but I’ll buy/take reliability anytime. Thanks again.

[@alfredanil]

Would like to see comparison of Prusa SL1S with Elagoo Mars 5 Ultra, the later being almost 8 times cheaper and far more advanced in terms of features, quality, reliablity, etc.

[@dschaedler]

Lets just thank prusa for even providing an upgrade path from sl1 to sl1s. That is very environment and consumer friendly!

[@tanmaynaphe2748]

You could make PCBs on these kind of printers with photoresist film on PCB. Placing pcb on printer LCD (design of pcb on lcd screen) with photoresist facing down. Then cleaning uncured photoresist and dipping in ferric chloride. It will reduce time required for making homemade pcb with high quality.

[@MarcSolomonScheimann]

Nice Lightning McQueen reference in the intro! I think only Pixar fans, and parents will catch that. Ka-chow!

[@JinKee]

why is the resin vat moving?

[@SwingsnRoundAbouts]

How does this compare to the 3D systems figure 4 standalone, that prints fast but at Aus $30,000 it’s expensive. They also claim their resins are UV stable after curing is this possible? Can you use 3D systems resins with this printer? Thanks for your help.

[@jimmurphy6095]

Came just for the Maxell references, wasn't disappointed...

[@truetech4158]

With the cost of giant lcds being cheap now, what's stopping these printers from being able to print a full size gokart/micro electric car?

[@cucumberworks]

The LCD in resin printers fail really fast. In larger high end resin printers they usually use DLP projectors or scanning UV lasers.

[@truetech4158]

Can't we develop a lcd panel that has a easily hotswapable light source? We sure could!!

[@cucumberworks]

@@truetech4158 I think the main problem is that when you get larger print sizes LCDs start to loose their advantages. Small LCDs for cell phones are cheap and easy to replace. But for larger build volumes, I would rather pay a bit more for a technology that lasts a lot longer.

[@MadeWithLayers]

There are one or two companies that straight-up use take the LCD panels from 4k TVs and build printers from them. Totally works!

[@noway8233]

Yuo forgot the price of thecnical resin, they are expensive

[@reinholdu9909]

Your *audiophile Thumbnail* sent me ..😁

[@MMQsTacosConLimons]

what is a good uv power % for the mono x for translucent resin?

[@ingmarm8858]

Hmm I paid $189USD for my Photon Mono recently. I get the 2s layer time and amazing quality. I don't see anything about this Prusa that makes it worth 10x more money.

[@Holztransistor]

Take a hires photo of your prints and look for lines and layer shifts.

[@KT-pv3kl]

@@Holztransistor lines are caused by the layers and the prusa doesn't do anything better in that regard. as for layer shifts they usually only happen with a bent z axis and if you think that doesn't happen on this 2000$ waste of money you are delusional.

[@KT-pv3kl]

ingmar you are overexposing your prints at 2s for the mono. unless you use some funky unknown darker than black resin . regular resin takes between 1s and 1,6s tops on the mono . chances are you get failed prints at those exposure times because your plate isn't leveled correctly or you have a way too high lift speed as is standard on those machines .

[@lancephelps3333]

What micron level can you get down to

[@cheshirestoveshop3035]

This video mentions a live stream of the upgrade process but I haven't been able to find it anywhere - does anyone have a link please?

[@MadeWithLayers]

Unfortunately KZbin produced a bug on the live stream video so I had to take it down.

[@cheshirestoveshop3035]

@@MadeWithLayers Oh ok, I'm sorry to hear that. I've just ordered the upgrade kit so will be attempting the job myself at the weekend. Many thanks for the reply and thanks for the helpful and insightful videos!

[@platin2148]

Is the software also open source? That’s amazing. Sadly too tiny for me.

[@Cakemagic1]

I hope the tech for it becomes better and better as time goes on. As well as cheaper.

[@CdoGtheGreat]

Excellent review. How would you rate the print detail of the sls1s vs the Mars 3 ?

[@sebsnest]

-Hey Thomas, a while back you did the live upgrade to "S" level, and run into an issue at the end. What was the solution to your problem?- Never mind, it's mentioned in the video. Strangely I can't find the upgrade video any longer. Is it removed? Thx

[@MadeWithLayers]

KZbin screwed up the video, so it's currently set to unlisted

[@pwet345]

12:05 its mainly because price of components went up

[@KW-jj9uy]

So if you spent an equal amount of money on a budget resin printers. How many models could you print in 24h ? with one SL1S or with 7 Budget printers ?

[@KT-pv3kl]

budget printers win out by roughly 7 times . 1,4s cure times is standard for all mono LCD printers which is the majority of current gen models. for the price of a single sl1s I could buy 5 anycubic mono and about 75 bottles of resin and print for roughly 3-5 years including cost for alcohol , gloves and replacement parts

[@femay94]

how is the SL1S compared to the Formlabs Form 3?

[@jordicasiano8112]

Much cheaper

[@femay94]

@@jordicasiano8112 I know that, but how about quality, ease of use, materials ...

[@jordicasiano8112]

@@femay94 I think the best point of formlabs are specifically their materials. They have very good ones with good properties. Also their customer support is best value.