Thomassen K1 Start-up

[@listerdiesel]

The engine was built by Thomassen Compressors, now part of the Howden Group. It is owned by Johan Rolloos and is kept at his workshops in Holland. It weights approximately 28 tonnes and was exhibited at the Nuenen engine show in 2011, which involved two low-loaders and hydraulic lifting gear to enable it to me moved and sited in the rally field. Johann is a well-know collector of old marine and industrial engines, especially Dutch-built types.

[@MrVidar0]

Is there any video of it running under load?

[@pirminkogleck4056]

Absolute WOW ! i would love to be back in those days , just to see the nice engines and cars, the design. everything had a beautiful design not like today where evcery coffemachine or car looks like a spaceshuttle

[@michaelvandyke]

The concept, engineering and mechanics - totally awesome from start to finish! Would love to rebuild one of those beasts!

[@philhealey449]

Go volunteer at your nearest engine museum. Great fun.

[@michaelvandyke]

@@philhealey449 , When I was in the Army 44+ years ago I got to work on all types of engines.. Tanks, Recovery , jeeps, trks, etc etc... I was in heaven!! Biggest one was the Continental V12....

[@philhealey449]

@@michaelvandyke As a Chartered Engineer today, my slippery slope as a kid was dissecting broken valve TVs, dissembling and reassembling old clocks etc and then deep joy around 12 working part time with a neighbour who did total car engine overhauls . He had been a WW2 aero engine fitter, so I learned a huge amount. Many years volunteer input to a steam museum has given great camaraderie and chance to play with all kinds of interesting technology that was state of the art in its day.

[@michaelvandyke]

@@philhealey449 , I did the clocks, vacuum cleaners, TV's, lawn mowers, bikes, it didn't matter.... Hahaha It was fun..

[@philhealey449]

@@michaelvandyke Worst admission was home alone following advice on Blue Peter for how to switch off the mains at the fuse box. That went well, but switching on again took out the TV that ended up as another ddissection . Never did admit to the cause......

[@davidstillman4271]

Would like some back ground information about the engine. HP, compression ratio, year built and what it was used for.

[@DaleBurdge]

Nothing like a good old engine - especially a large one

[@znate6730]

Beautiful and smooth movement

[@peteraforbes8726]

Air starting was done with engine-driven compressors if electricity was not available, Ruston Hornsby amongst others produced dedicated compressor sets like the 2PS AND 6PS 'Power Starters'.

[@alabamaramma]

An explanation of what the hell is going on during the starting sequence would be nice.

[@PointyTailofSatan]

It's basically witchcraft. You would have to join a coven.

[@BradfordGuy]

It takes a huge amount of compressed air to start it, which is what you hear at the beginning; the compressor. Additionally, it is going through a lubrication process before it is allowed to run.

[@James_Bowie]

"The K1 is 28 tonnes weight, and for obvious reasons is not the sort of thing that you just crank over and off it goes. It has to have a large supply of compressed air for starting, and has to be barred round to a starting position before you can try to start it up. It runs on petrol vapour, but leaves a residue in the mixer afterwards which is virtually unusable as fuel, the engine having taken all the lighter elements from the fuel on the suction stroke. It has two magnetos and two plugs, it originally ran on town gas (coal gas) to give 110+ hp at 170rpm, not a speed that is possible on a mobile engine! It is run at about 48rpm for show purposes."

[@gordonwilliams5394]

Nice engine,what a shame that there no commentary on the start up and function of the engine. Opertunity missed. Gordon.

[@wingnutjack9463]

that is where modern engines evolved from, when you turn the the key in your car remember that

[@janner2121]

Go to 4.48 secs to see it running, nice engine Peter

[@williamlogan4049]

That Engine started faster than Windows Vista

[@michaeldomansky8497]

Runs better, too!

[@gus6rocks]

Doesn't everything?

[@johnhudelson2652]

I had a laptop with Windows Vista, which was so awful I was driven to install Ubuntu Linux on the laptop.

[@tonyswhirl]

Vista business was the best OS I ever had - criminal that is outdated

[@andygotting9152]

william Logan thats not really a fair comparison, one is archaic and the other one is an oil engine.

[@scotthauser9395]

Why don't some of these old guys put a load on the engine. We only ever get to see them idling. I want to see it hit every time!

[@henkholdingastate]

UN...DU...RA...BLE and no plastic that will fall apart over time, i love these techniek

[@robertsalser848]

Never seems to get going good enough to clear out, timing seems late to me. I was thinking this already, then I read the post, I'm not the only one. Very nice engine, where is it located now, and is it running good now.

[@johanjorez2956]

this engine is in the netherlands , the timing is perfect what you hear is when te outlet valve opens , this weekend there was a running day

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

That's a quiet engine.

[@bobdavis5398]

Could have left out the first 4 min

[@afzaalkhan.m]

After 4 minutes on ok

[@QQTrick1QQ]

Got to get to the 10 minute mark for the extra ad revenue.

[@rogerd4559]

@@afzaalkhan.m Oh was that 4 minutes? It felt like 4 days

[@peterowens290]

Interesting but what about the basic specs? What was this engine designed to accomplish & how old is it? As seen running here it looks slow?

[@bobpaulino4714]

Stationary steam engines ran a series of belts and shafts, often throughout entire manufacturing or service facilities, powering individual pieces of equipment. With this early internal combustion arrangement, they could achieve the same results without the steam boiler although compressed air was needed for starting. In Savannah, GA., The Roundhouse Railroad Museum has the old Central of Georgia railroad back shops with what is said to be the most complete pulley, shaft, and belt driven shop arrangement still in existence. In 1843 the C of G's 190 miles of trackage boasted the largest continuous railroad system under one management in the world. The museum is quite interesting. I also happened upon an old grain mill and hardware store in Baltic, OH., (Near Jerry Jacobson's 'Age of Steam period roundhouse and shop facility) which has a large stationary steam engine with the series of pulleys, belts, and shafts throughout its multiple stories. On occasion the current owner will run the system on compressed air as steam operation of the ole girl would raise safety (and monumental insurance) concerns.

[@ralphedelbach]

@@bobpaulino4714 What about the original application of this particular engine and specs too would be nice.

[@bobpaulino4714]

Edelralph, yes it would. I enjoy watching and learning about any older equipment!

[@spencerwilton5831]

Bob Paulino This is not a steam engine. It's a gas engine, hence the requirement for compressed air starting. It originally ran on town (coal) gas but now runs on petrol vapour. Gas engines became popular with the widespread adoption of town gas, as they eliminated the need for coal storage and handling, boilers and their upkeep, firemen etc. They could also be started up and shut down as required in a few minutes, unlike large steam engines which could take hours to start from a cold boiler.

[@james1377c15]

Not even a 4 stroke, somewhere between 8 and 12 stokes between firings. Awesome.

[@robertcooke1266]

Rather boring hearing what I presume is a compressor running for so long. When the engine gets up to speed it's quite exciting, isn't it?

[@rogerd4559]

can you Imagine waiting for this piece of shit to warm up in the morning and having to drive to work with this under your hood?

[@scopex2749]

These big engines are so quiet why can they not build trucks like this? Superb

[@falconer100]

Very spectacular. Darth Vader was inspired by this I am sure.

[@louisedwards6681]

If you want something bad enough you can do anything you want!

[@lewiemcneely9143]

The engine was nice but I'd REALLY like to watch that air compressor!

[@rogerd4559]

hahaha the air compressor was a much better value ten that piece of shit

[@epj900]

Please provide some informatiomn on this engine, I for one , would like to know more about it. Thanks

[@duron700r]

Wonderful BIG gas engine! Waste spark on the mag's (learn if you don't know) and runs really nice! Steam or gas engines: It takes time. Ready? Let's go. And it goes. Very nice. Thank you!

[@MrJdsenior]

Is all that chuffing on startup water left in the cylinder, or something else? Beautiful machine. I STILL love steam, it has a "romance" to it that IC just doesn't. And soon everything will be just a very very quiet hum, electric.

[@spencerwilton5831]

John Sikes it's not steam, although it is closely related in design and operation. It's a gas engine, originally operated on coal gas.

[@MrJdsenior]

@@spencerwilton5831 THAT explains a few things. Thx.

[@whorayful]

Wow, excellant video, beautiful engine as well. Is there any information on where the engine is sited? or any history that goes with her? Note to maintenance people, the air compressor starting at 1:10 is trying to start loaded, that is why it's labouring so much to get up to run speed. It should be at full RPM before the star/delta changeover happens. Cheers.

[@mackenzierynebagtong8549]

Those two magnetos are for ignition? I didn't know that.

[@bobw7066]

Almost all of these older engines fire after top dead centre, it makes them easier to start with no kick back as you get if they fired before top dead centre with later higher revving engines.

[@richardvaughn2705]

The usually fire just advance of TDC even these older engines. There is a flipper that makes the ignition trip rod slightly longer (or many other mechanisms) which retards the ignition timing for hand starting.

[@Iflyagrasshopper]

Neat engine and thanks for posting... FYI 4 minutes of watching the engine get set up for starting is pretty boring.... also would be a good idea to post the age and HP of the engine...

[@CitroenDS23]

The lack of any explanation (text or voice) or video of the setup procedure was also frustrating. However the skip button worked well and the engine is fabulous.

[@MrVidar0]

It has a very funny (And good?) ignition system. :-) What a beast!

[@optimist3580]

A treat for all the Mechanophilia types out there

[@steveaustin4600]

lol,all the dislikes are from BMW push button start owners

[@brucewmclaughlin9072]

specifications would be nice?

[@hoppinonabronzeleg9477]

Just call it the promenader!

[@TheAaronmh]

For some reason it seems it's firing at b.d.c. or maybe just after. (?)

[@tracylemme1375]

I saw the same thing

[@chiefhobbyist3203]

Gotta be one of the slowest turning engines I've ever seen

[@npsit1]

It actually starts spinning at 4:40....

[@austinwagoncompany]

Thank you! At 4:35 I paused it and went looking in the comments.

[@Wetboyslim]

Heavy breathing of sleeping monster... I definitely want to sleep with that sound.

[@markpenrice6253]

OK, I get the compressor part, but what's all the clacking and the taking 8~10 small bites at each full rotation at the start about?

[@spencerwilton5831]

Mark Penrice Barring the engine. It is being rotated into the starting position with some kind of ratchet mechanism. It is called barring Because on some engines the task was achieved by inserting a long metal bar into holes on the flywheel and pulling down on the other end to rotate the engine a fraction of a revolution. The bar was removed, reinserted in the next hole and the flywheel moved further on again, repeated until the desired position was achieved.

[@jorgebonifacio7562]

Sou louco por essa máquinas antiga aí nesse tempo tinha engenheiro e hoge

[@adediver]

Beautiful, music to my ears

[@glenngammon4215]

At least the starter runs good!

[@xp9792]

Need to adjust the timing. Its currently firing about 2/3rds of the way down stroke after TDC. If they advanced the timing on the spark it would run like a top.

[@acersalman8258]

Beautiful wonderful ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@pauljohansson7697]

I just subscribed to your channel and hello from New Hampshire usa.

[@frankanddanasnyder3272]

Start the vid at 4:40....

[@QQTrick1QQ]

This must be like 5 horse power and 300,000 pounds of torque XD

[@ezralord4901]

Start from 4:42 you're welcome :)

[@VinnyMartello]

Is it a hit n miss? Diesel? What is it?

[@laerteferreira8801]

sou fascinado por estas máquinas👍👍

[@rogerd4559]

my god! that thing sounds like its going to throw a rod before it even gets started!

[@Canajaf]

Ridicolo!

[@aeroflopper]

it fires every 4th lamp post

[@davidlibby5430]

Would it be 2000 LBS. of torque at 50 RPM?

[@stranraerwal]

the set-up minutes are a bit longish-especially when you can't see half of it. Whomakes that endless rattling noise ?

[@davidstillman4271]

stranraerwal the air compressor charging the tank used to cycle the engine to start.

[@dumitrymd5557]

4:45 starts up

[@johnmoar7658]

loverly machine

[@johnkean1719]

beautiful engine. how did they start it before electric driven air compressors though? Just curious.

[@listerdiesel]

Johan has videos on youtube under username 'bronsindustrie'.

[@superkas]

Sounds like dragon!

[@ganesanpillaipillaiganesan2069]

Double strong. engine. nice. manufacturer. sounds of the. engine is. so sweet like. too much

[@lesreed7943]

Why all the full stops?Weird...

[@listerdiesel]

Links to the websites and pictures have been added to the video description.

[@TM15R]

The best part of this video is the comments....

[@ryann8680]

use that engine for logging when you don't have a chainsaw..it will just yank the tree out of the ground roots and all

[@aeroflopper]

its a bitch to move from tree to tree ,

[@kennynvake4hve584]

I dont know what it is about these(steam) engine's but it give's me a creepy feeling when this thing is running..does anyone else feel this way...I dont know weather; it is because it is so silent, or the sheer amount of power they have..and are silent.

[@smug8567]

That looks like a pre WW I motor.

[@nate4745]

Go To 4:45 when they finally start the engine. Then is runs 'hit and miss' firing about every third cycle.

[@ronpat100]

hypnotizing!!!

[@johngnipper1454]

Sounds like my ex snoring. A little quieter though.

[@jimmarshallman6300]

I love all sorts of engines ..... But sorry ..... This was DEAD BORING! >8^(

[@wateryblaze]

I agree.

[@jonasyulledesouzayulle]

Boa noite felicidades paz muito legal parabéns.

[@MrAlan0151]

email me when its going !!

[@ryann8680]

at speed that flywheel alone probably produces 75 hp if you could freewheel it

[@pault4004]

12 Horses?

[@thom3124]

He said it was 110 hp

[@davef.2811]

In it's day, what purpose did this engine serve?

[@bobpaulino4714]

As with stationary steam engines these usually ran a series of belts and shafts, large ones often throughout entire shops or manufacturing facilities. Other pulleys and belts ran the individual pieces of equipment. This one, being an internal combustion engine, didn't need an external steam source as the stationary steam engines did.

[@wingnutjack9463]

that engine has run more years than you been alive and can run longer, i love trolls.... hehehehehehehe

[@rogerd4559]

all that for ten horse power output?

[@spencerwilton5831]

jim halcom but enough torque to change the rotation of the earth. Plus this would run for decades without major attention.

[@atvkid0805]

Why is it firing at the bottom of the stroke

[@Drottninggatan2017]

Maybe the sound is when it is letting out the exhaust. That would be at the bottom and going up.

[@adeeponionbrah]

I believe there are sync problems with ewe toob. What you hear is frequently uncoordinated with what you see.

[@nlo114]

3400 lb/ft. Viewers are politely requested to remain behind the safety barrier.

[@wlaukaitis]

nlo114 I'd connect a coffee grinder to it.

[@JUANKERR2000]

lb/ft????

[@jp-um2fr]

Not the sort of engine you want to stall at the traffic lights.

[@Romanhd-t8j]

A gasolina?

[@uweinhamburg]

This engine has about the same HP as a F1 racing car today ;)

[@johndebrular979]

The real difference is the awesome amount of torque.

[@uweinhamburg]

@@johndebrular979 Would be pretty difficult to install all this moving mass like the flywheel on a F1 car ;)

[@spencerwilton5831]

uwe in Hamburg But an F1 engine lasts a few dozen hours, this has already lasted a dozen decades.

[@daro2262]

See if you can get some black smoke & fire of the pipe

[@oldergeologist]

Starts 4:46

[@apl175]

Should've let it glow longer....

[@stonedvideos1]

4:40 yw

[@peejay1954]

4:40 that is

[@tanthiennguyen6101]

Darf auch nicht viele Fragen.....

[@oswaldoriginal5037]

what a hellish noise

[@heronimousbrapson863]

A classic glopetta glopetta machine.......

[@glennlathem9772]

Come on boys, balls to the wall.

[@KITLEVEY]

Better video = lose the first 4:30 minutes.

[@tanthiennguyen6101]

Test auf Lärme belastend......Wie der Opas oben Arbeiten.....

[@louisedwards6681]

It's got to built up steem first,!

[@richardglidden2928]

Sort of like starting windows 10 !!

[@Kogacarlo]

Why does it fire only once in 4 or 6 revs? And why does that change all the time?

[@bitsnpieces11]

It is a type of engine called a "Hit-N-Miss" engine. It will "hit" to provide power to come up to speed and then stop firing and coast, under no load like this it coasts for a good while before it needs power to get some more speed. Then it fires again to bring the speed back up. The first ones would cut the spark but keep pulling in fuel/air and that was a waste of gas. Later ones would stop pulling in fuel/air by holding the exhaust valve open until power was needed, then close valve and pull in fuel/air. Under full load these engines would continue to fire every time. Later on they went to carburetors which could restrict the amount of fuel/air going in to control the power and that's what we have today, unless it's a fuel injection system which squirts just the right amount of fuel in at the right moment.

[@Kogacarlo]

Great explanation, thank you. When was this engine built approximately?

[@bitsnpieces11]

You should be able to find out more with a search engine, but probably about 1900.

[@Kogacarlo]

Okay, according to this site it was built in 1908 www.mietracteur.eu/weldra/nuenen.htm

[@1903A3shooter]

All that just to wind a watch.