Thomist Call In & Tjump v Matthew Adelstein Review

[@lougallucci86]

Bayes is very much garbage in = garbage out.

[@DigitalGnosis]

Yes, however, that's too hand wavy to really convince ppl who are already putting garbage in

[@allekatrase3751]

Tre, if everyone in your blue state took the attitude you do would it still be a blue state? I get your impact is miniscule, but collectively it makes a difference. Aside from the other methods besides voting in which these issues can be influenced, the context of your vote would change if everyone had your attitude. So, are you an exception and everyone else should think about it but you don't need to? Or should everyone give it little thought and we'll have an even less informed voter base?

[@kensey007]

I think you are misunderstanding Tjump's epistomolgy. He will accept anything backed up with a novel testable prediction. If you pray for a certain God to materialize a gold brick and successfully predict a gold brick will materialize, Tjump will accept that God. Tjump would accept other ways to differentiate imagination from reality also, but I don't think anyone has proposed something other than novel testable predictions that works.

[@youngidealist]

The deaf always cheat at charades

[@plasmaballin]

That debate was painful to listen to. I'm an atheist but a fan of Adelstein's Substack, so I was disappointed to hear TJump being such an a-hole to him. And I'm not sure how he expected to convince anyone that Adelstein is wrong by just aggressively asserting his own positions with no argument.

[@plasmaballin]

@@hiker-uy1bi Did you mean TJump?

[@youngidealist]

These guys you are reviewing aren't honest interlocutors. This whole practice isn't trying to get at what is true or some deeper philosophy. From all sides, it's just a sadistic game of intellectual bullying. It's incredibly toxic.

[@DigitalGnosis]

I dont disagree

[@llamahguy7229]

​@DigitalGnosis so why do it

[@youngidealist]

@@llamahguy7229 That's the million dollar question, right? We are science minded critical thinking individuals, so what IS the nature of this narcissism in human personalities? The most obvious aspect: being a narcissist clearly can get you laid, else natural selection would have selected it out. Out of positions of leadership especially. How do we have this human nature to let overconfidence get a free ticket to ride everywhere we see? Why desire this bout where we cure or befriend someone for behaving narcissistically? I ask myself these questions at the same time. I like Doug, but I want to slap him every time his efforts are to waste time (I guess unless it's for a laugh to be shared by all). I have an idea in mind that I think would ruin a lot of the intellectual bullying with the use of argumentation mapping, but it's a whole project I haven't made the time for yet. We will evolve past this point, for sure. I just don't want it to be too slow.

[@DigitalGnosis]

Entertainment, truth, try to make it better, bored, stockholm syndrome, audience capture, bit of money on the side. IDK you're here watching...