Thoracic Outlet Syndrome

[@heartoftherobot]

I was diagnosed with this and it’s mostly solved now. It sucks. Let me save you 5 years: Diligently go to physical therapy. I go twice a week. Laser, ultrasound, electrostim, and rowing. They also do a chiropractic-style adjustment. Get a massage between the appointments. If you are not feeling better a 1-2 months after starting physical therapy, simply find a new therapist. Continue seeing your doctor every few months (schedule in advance) and discuss any changes you feel. Good luck. 👍🏻

[@FREEDOM_OR_DEATH_]

I haven't been diagnosed but I'm getting to the point where this is becoming a full time job just trying to reduce pain.

[@ShiahR-ds8hd]

How long was it before you started to see improvements I was diagnosed with this two weeks ago ….. my arms and hands feel so weak and the pins and needles and elbow pain they have me in physical therapy but haven’t started it yet … Monday is my first day but I’ve been seeing chiropractor the last two weeks … what helped you the most?

[@omnipresencetv8929]

i doubt the Avalible health care in my country will ever fix REAL health problems so it's like being cattle & going to a butcher for help they treat us like A vet would treat your cat if it's a "free" service

[@robinhoodhustsle1356]

Did you have venous and arterial? I got it in both arms had one rib removed on my dominant right side. Left side is really starting to hurt. So I got some ultrasounds on the left side expecting the same diagnosis on the left side

[@ytrew9717]

same here (since 3 years, I found nearly all the strengthening exercices needed (aslo suffer shoulder pain), a single one is missing(stretching are useless). Which strengthening exercice solved it? Did you try to strengthen both scalene?

[@soniavinodolac3251]

Research, research, research before making a decision on surgery. Very important decision not to be rushed into. Good healthy is precious.

[@shadowof1155]

Just got diagnosed with TOS 2 days ago, luckily no nerve damage but arterial function diminishes in certain positions so they want to do surgery on it. Ontop of that, during their testing to diagnose and rule out other problems, they found i have mild carpal tunnel in both wrists 😐, so after two hip surgeries (osteocondroma at 20, labrum repair at 28 on the same hip), a hip replacement due in about 10 years (for the same hip as before), the surgery for TOS and future surgery for the carpal tunnel issues got me feeling like I should be in a retirement home at 29... not how I wanted life to go but hey at least getting through it will be a good lesson for my son, that if dad can make it through all this crap that he can make it too and to motivate him to go for his dreams.

[@HartfordHealthCare2023]

Sorry about that! Love how you are looking to motivate your son in all this, staying positive is great for healing.

[@shadowof1155]

@HartfordHealthCare2023 i plan on using it as a positive influence for my son by showing him that no matter what tries to bring you down to not give up and keep pushing through so in hopes that one day, he will be able to get past his own road blocks in life so he can chase his dreams into reality. Plus I want him to see the realistic side showing that life doesn't always go how you want or planned as I obviously didn't plan on or want to have surgery to remove a bone tumor or have to have it replaced at such a young age but that I won't let it bring me down or keep me from loving him and hopefully through the years it will help him be a better man than I have been.

[@victoriasalcido2099]

I was diagnosed with TOS back in January and it sucks, when I see my classmates raise their right arm without any potential problems. And I have to get my first rib completely removed after I graduate from high school.

[@HartfordHealthCare2023]

Sending hugs in these difficult times!

[@REAPER0121]

This surgery ruined my life, I was only having arm and shoulder pain before having this procedure. Now I have constant pain in my left chest that mimics a heart atack. I'd caution anyone to think twice before having this surgery., As having chest pain now I still have the same pain in arm and shoulder

[@technologyisadeadbird9669]

I’ve been told I need this surgery to remove my extra rib and now I’m concerned. I haven’t gone through with the procedure yet but could please tell me more about what happened??

[@REAPER0121]

@@technologyisadeadbird9669 I only just received this notification today, sorry for the late reply, I was diagnosed with theratic outlet syndrome back in 08. Said I would need surgery to relive the pressure on the nerve by removing the first rib on my left side, well after I've had the surgery I was told that they just went in and removed muscle around the area and cut bands to loosen up the compression on the nerves. Months of pain after I was referred to another surgeon and he decided to go in and remove the rib the first surgeon didn't do, woke up still have the rib because the surgeon said I had so much scar tissue from the last surgery he had to repair it before he could get the rib out, fist surgery was thru my neck, second one was across my upper left chest.. had to come back in 2 months and then had the rib removed from under my left armpit. I've had so much trama from the scar tissue and it's much worse then it was before all this, they said wasn't nothing much else they can do and just referred me to a pain clinic , which is even more of a waste of time. Hopefully you will have better results then I have had

[@poochyboi]

@@REAPER0121 as a physiotherapist, this is why I always recommended conservative therapy before surgery. A good surgeon or doctor will say this as well.

[@REAPER0121]

@@poochyboi did all that before and after surgery, did not help, stretching and a bag of ice wasn't going to cure what I have.

[@poochyboi]

@@REAPER0121 how many bags of ice did you use?

[@NN-lt6bp]

“2023” My surgery is on March 20th I’m scared but I’m also so ready to try anything. That’s how bad this pain is. Did physical therapy and it made it wayyy worse. Wish I didn’t even go to physical therapy because it wasn’t as bad as it is now. 🙏🏼🤞🏼🙌🏼

[@bonkersdonkers7381]

How are you?

[@zackcascio5652]

How did this go for you?

[@christinacarrasco7080]

@@zackcascio5652I want to know also! My nephew is having this surgery next week!

[@MrDlayn]

I am doing pt now and it has also made it worst

[@ytrew9717]

did it work?

[@animelover8156]

I was recently diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome and at the moment I'm in physical therapy for it. I am at a very high risk of getting this surgery. I'm a bit worried because it would be my first surgery ever since I'm only a teen. Edit: I'm scheduled for surgery. Physical therapy just made it worse so I will have this surgery done on June 23rd.

[@pedroacrodrigues9646]

i am with you man

[@HyperarchFasciaTraining]

Might want to consider Hyperarch Fascia Training.

[@smcremix8791]

im one year post op and still in alot of pain! im 35 years old.

[@animelover8156]

@@smcremix8791 I am almost 6 weeks post op and I am feeling a little better than I was. I'm sorry for your pain. Is it possible that you have compression somewhere else or something else going on?

[@animelover8156]

@Muskaan Fayaz if it's the only option I do suggest it. I am 7 months post op and I have full range of motion and full strength. The pain was bad right after my surgery since it involved removing part of a bone but I feel so much better. I tend to joke around about my missing rib piece because you can kinda feel it.

[@noahkennedy3588]

i was diagnosed with an extra cervical rib (left side) with the possibility of TOS i have been experiencing chest pain frequently, soreness under my left armpit an sometimes weakness in my left arm i went to a cardiologist for my chest pain an they did an ekg an came back good....so i’m just wondering is it possible for TOS to cause chest pain? Please respond with this epidemic going on in america it’s impossible to get responses, Thanks

[@Imperfectsurvivor]

Noah Kennedy I’m in the same situation as you. I have bilateral c7 ribs which has caused pain on both sides. I have shoulder and back pain, as well as pain around my collar bone and chest so yes it’s possible

[@SK-ek5ne]

I'm also having a pain starting from my left under arm pit to the middle of the chest.... I have TOS and am bilateral too

[@rocknroll506]

I have bilateral cervical ribs found out last year can't weight training the same it's doing my head in. Doctors don't know much about it they just give you pain medication which I threw away. Might see about surgery.

[@nomadjeff1]

I believe I also have TOS although not diagnosed. I have sharp chest pains and right under my clavicle. Seems to feel a little better when I can stretch just right but when I exercise i feel lots of pressure there. This surgery looks like killing a fly with a hand grenade.

[@martaakh8105]

I think that a for safety reasons you should go to cardiologist or to undergo diagnosis in direction of cardiac disease. are you young or middle age do you smoke or have you another risk factors : high Cholesterin, high LDL, Obesity?. Additionally diagnostic of cervical cervical spine and neurological consil.

[@emmalee7597]

Did everyone have pain prior to surgery? I just have numbness and shooting nerve shocks in both hands l day.

[@DanikaZenn]

There are exercises that can be done to help this along with Chiropractic, laser and percussion therapy. In the long run you are better off trying these treatments and therapies rather than surgery.

[@Samkonia4728]

Didnt Markelle Fultz have this injury?

[@112101eh]

I was diagnosed with this had a carotid subclavian bypass done cause my artery was bad and ended up getting a blood clot and had to go under again to get that removed and I’m only 27 pretty scary stuff

[@imnotyou4830]

can i ask if you knew why the artery was bad?

[@rubixcubesolve]

Also curious how you knew about the blood clot

[@112101eh]

@@rubixcubesolve I was having pain in the arm they did surgery on and my bp was extremely low on that arm as well they did a dye test and found it

[@112101eh]

@@imnotyou4830 I had a cervical rib which is a extra rib bone and that somehow went through the artery idk if it was over use of the arm from work that caused it but that’s how I eventually ended with it I kept complaining about pain and was sent by my neurologist to another specialist that deals with this I have migraines and my neurologist ruled out that it wasn’t anything that he worked with

[@robinhoodhustsle1356]

Saved my life as well. Day 3 to 4 is the most painful after the surgery. Feels like a neck surgery and now i see why. Had both top ribs removed cause venous tos. The first outbreak nearly killed me because i wasnt on eliquis yet

[@ytrew9717]

Before going to surgery try physical therapy, but run away from "doctors" who propose stretching or massages (it's a good indicator to see the level of competence/education). What you need to release the tension is the strengthen the specific muscles, eg. both scallenes (it's often a large combinaison, target all miucles of the torso and neck, it takes a lot of time and effort). Look for msk physio

[@jenear3051]

I am being scheduled for this surgery. I haven’t spoken to my surgeon yet but is this usually done on both sides? Or just the side that the blood clot formed on?

[@ainars1205]

You need to ask your doctor for evidences that you exactly need this surgery. This is rather serious surgery with intervention into your body. But usually doctors have lack of evidences.

[@7722184]

just the side

[@smcremix8791]

@@7722184 how are you doing since surgery. i had this surgery and I'm still in pain 2 years later!

[@7722184]

@@smcremix8791 Hello, i'm a physio , i treat thoracic outlet syndromes, i don't have one, i'm sorry to hear that you're still in pain, i assume they did test the arterial flow before and after the surgery ?

[@chichi1379]

What happens to the muscles attached to rib 1 when its removed?

[@ainars1205]

Pinky Boo It's very good question: where are attached scalenus muscles after first rib renoval. I support doctors also don't know it. I had such surgery. I don't recommed it at all to anyone.

[@massagedude5]

They usually reattach them somewhere else. The clavicle is most often the place to connect.

[@chichi1379]

@@massagedude5 so than i wonder if it affects deep breathing

[@ainars1205]

Richard Forsting The most problem is not where is attached muscle, but in fact this surgery changes the structure of shoulder. There is written in wiki that "Clavicle directly above the first rib, it acts as a strut to keep the scapula in place so that the arm can hang freely". Shoulder can hang freely because clavicle is based on the two points. If you take off one point (the first rib) what happens with your shoulder structure. It is destroyed and your shoulder will be hanged onto your neck with muscles. It means you will always have tension on your neck. It is simply mechanics, but doctors don't know it. They know only physiology, but it is not enough. I think these surgeries are totally mistake.

[@ainars1205]

I have no recommendations. I know only one, if I could turn time back, I would never agree with this surgery. I have two shoulders: one without surgery, but another with. I can see and feel differencies.

[@rizwansheikh9521]

Excellent video! Thanks!

[@HartfordHealthCare2023]

Glad you liked it!

[@raegynfoster2436]

I had this surgery at 14 a year ago in St. Louis and it changed my life for the better. The injury progressed through softball, specifically pitching, and became worse over the 4 ½ year course I had it. Now im a sophomore in high school and I've never played better, all because of this surgery.

[@ethanforrest8927]

How long was the recovery?

[@HartfordHealthCare2023]

Glad to hear this!

[@romand123]

Any carpenters or tradesmen in this comment section? I’ve been ignoring the symptoms for 2 years but now I’m starting to experience weakness in my grip strength. I’m 42 and the prospects of not being able to able to work with my hands is starting to worry me. Will be seeing a doctor next week for this

[@Dtaysh]

Wow. I have thought about surgery, but this looks crazy intense and near to TOO many essential functions. Like if they fuck up that phrenic nerve, you a goner. Yikes.

[@HartfordHealthCare2023]

Yes, the procedure requires precision

[@stetson_newsie2600]

yeah I just googled it, and absolutely not. I like my diaphragm functional, thank you.

[@rakibkhan800]

So thoracic out let syndrome Could be other possibility

[@jonathanlindsey7623]

You're still in icd 9

[@Loredo_1]

Omg!!!! That's exactly what they did to me.......... same two cuts, it looks like an easy surgery, i wonder why it took them 3 hrs to get it done??????

[@iilavenderii21]

On these vids they look easy but if u go and watch real surgeries it’s extremely difficult to distinguish the nerves and they have to be really slow to not dissect any nerves/ tear veins or arteries. And im reality it isn’t that visible tissue surrounding everywhere it’s much more complicated

[@wreakinghavoc2698]

What was your neck like afterward? I can’t imagine cutting those muscles and not having a floppy neck afterward 🙈🙈

[@Loredo_1]

@@wreakinghavoc2698 my neck is pretty strong its just that they mess with my nerves so now my hands get numb

[@MrJspookz]

easy? It looks complicated af.

[@desifoodworld8868]

how you feeling after surgery ??? my surgeon suggest surgery to me but i m not afraid. please let knw thanks

[@Goinggreenagain]

This seems incredibly invasive. PASS

[@Sleepless4Life]

Jesus...

[@antoniosianez2970]

This made me laugh. Mostly because I was thinking, “that actually isn’t that bad”. Lol

[@yogeeyogee9034]

Good

[@t_lettuce.__.]

as i’m about to get this in 2 days 🥴😔

[@Bledou213]

hope you feel better. how are you feeling after the surgery ?

[@zackcascio5652]

How did it go?

[@TeaRex456]

Do you have to be put to sleep for this?

[@justinm3493]

Yes

[@Dtaysh]

Bro. they are operating on your neck. Yes, you would want to be knocked the fuck out.

[@Teenagefaces]

Of course!

[@evilazzuratm2124]

xD

[@stefanspasic976]

Wuuuuut daaa fuck ?!?!?!? Jesus Christ 😳

[@smcremix8791]

this condition is a total nightmare!

[@exosehun5798]

هاه

[@TheBuddaBrot]

and this just because youre on the phone & pc too much

[@evilazzuratm2124]

true, i was addict to pc when i was teenager, still i started bodybuilding at 17 and got this fkin TOS around 18, nothing solve this (i'm 22)

[@WonkOfWonkyness]

Why does the fat pad look like beans though? 😂

[@hbeezey]

tf are you doing, stop sawing off everything jfc