Thorns Module X Upgrade LV3 Showcase - The Best Mixed Damage Dealer

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Much like Blaze, Thorns is back. The new Lord module give the OG single-target AFK operator new aggressiveness to tackle enemies. The high arts DOT to enemies(ranged especially) help him crack down high DEF fast. The 3:2 Physical:Arts DPS set is crazy good, making him arguably the best operator with mixed damage in kit.
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[@DragonGJY]

One thing I kinda forget to mention: Thorns' arts DOT is a fixed number regardless of his current attack, which means the now stackable DOT will help him out even more during off-skill. Yes it sometimes make enemies die faster which compromises his skill charging a bit, but he IS very threatening off-skill now, it can make the difference between life and death, or leak vs. no leak. That's also the reason why Quercus is no longer required in the second footage (2:25)

[@fallenwisp5001]

I'm not sure if this is a good place to ask but it's relevant to Thorns, so... Logos' 2nd Talent gives a flat arts damage bonus to received arts damage. Does it affect Thorns' DoT? Or Blue Poison's DoT (Since her DoT works differently, iirc)? Or does it need to be strictly a direct arts attack?

[@lunesaveter8521]

​@@fallenwisp5001 it does but the entire durations of the dot only trigger it once, and not every instance of damage in the dot trigger it if I don't remember wrong

[@Mikufan-lb7zu]

When HG cooked in one patch Thorns+SA+Quibai modules and then there's Frostleaf

[@maisjaki]

The module really feels like consolation prize for those E2-ed Frostleaf

[@rainzerdesu]

@@maisjaki hardly seems a consolation. should have been removing the aspd penalty. They could have made her the Lappland of cold application

[@Zack_Zander]

⁠@@rainzerdesu I agree, while she should only inflict up to cold on every default attack (as in she can't freeze on default), letting her freeze on skill activation on Mod-Lv3 could be fair. Making her cold rely on RNG like her S2 bind is just worse since it’ll just be unreliable.

[@Noobboi99]

Who? lmao

[@char1194]

Really cool how a complete non-factor of a talent was turned into an actual cornerstone of his kit. Stuff like this is what makes modules so fun when they're designed well

[@Zack_Zander]

Meanwhile Frostleaf…

[@char1194]

@@Zack_Zander her talent *isn't* a non-factor, unfortunately As someone with a raised frostleaf i feel yall but i dont wanna harp on it too much id rather chill and focus on the good

[@Zack_Zander]

@@char1194 If for whatever reason they can't let her inflict cold on every bit (not inflicting freeze), I felt that they could’ve at least let her guaranteed to inflict cold during her skills attack. 25% just rely on too much RNG which feels more like a detriment.

[@IamHero_1337]

And people still call this mod bad. The math proves it's at least a decent boost to his damage output. Helps him catch up to today's standards.

[@imzelone]

I guess Wisadel and Logos broke people's perception of DPS and total dmg

[@bellseb]

Who is calling this module bad??

[@oyshrimp]

​@@bellsebmajority comment on Lappipi Video "Thorn Modules"

[@helmifaiz4504]

​@@bellseb me.... or perhaps, my past self before this videos comes out I guess, I was hoping that they improved his DPH significantly, like how they did with SilverAsh's "deals increased damage to Elite Enemies" But oh well, Thorns' increased stats + stacking DOT is actually make a big improvement now

[@johanesbpermadi2016]

yeah, people who judged modules bad just because of the difference in DPH is not that much is just need to broaden their horizon. Comparison video with and without module in the best and worst case scenario is the best indicator of how the module upgrade is good or not.

[@caniwishformorewishes8654]

His new outfit gives Thorns a crucial role as a laneholder backing up Vulcan and Wai Fu in the kicknights niche.

[@jo-ri-oh8950]

Thorns module is good despite what some people thinking 👌 Day 5 of waiting for Ulpian on EN server

[@thegoldencrowbar6439]

It will be a long wait... stay strong, we have to

[@Kratoks06]

Showing some love for one of the OGs. This is great news for my friend who is playing again after years.

[@dragichav2810]

Lol Thorns OG ? 😅 He came a year after AK released. Not even 1st year operator 😐

[@gosha5870]

And then there's frostleaf

[@sorashizen5130]

Except that thorns wasn't one of the originals

[@wheelotime2581]

He got poison in his boots bro nasty

[@KaitoFlinn]

it's all the sea-salt

[@user-ashborn16]

The god of AFK returns!

[@koyomi0401]

The music matching with his new outfit is so good lol

[@haveiszalfaroqie1628]

Shred on the flamenco, Zorro.

[@aruaruru624]

as a thorny lover and still an avid user of him im so glad this module is fairly good. i love using him, i love this new skin, thorn lovers are winning big

[@neptuuna9107]

Damn, can't wait to get the module for my thorns. IF I HAVE HIM

[@pallas-bq2fi]

PFFFHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAAAA, god that hurt my soul, and i don't even have one.

[@tryzyn8853]

Thorns' theme is so good

[@cefrinaldi8060]

Really love the module. It enhance Thorn overall capabilites as afk ops. People might still call it useless but i love it so much.

[@lunamagnoliid8984]

Seeing a side-by-side makes "a little" attack speed look way stronger than it feels.. Y'know besides Horn with Saileach lol

[@SnakeintheGarden]

I'm so envious CN gets this stuff before EN does and I just have to sit here, in anticipation, for my favorite operator to get the new update.

[@jakeshmo3322]

Thanks Mr. Dragon for the video. Ever since I miraculously pulled Thorns in 10 pulls as a F2P from the Dorothy-Thorns banner a while back, he's always been one of my favorite carries. Very excited for his module.

[@anman1]

The video has the beautiful music. Thank you Dragon

[@Ezekiel_Allium]

I'm pretty sure the song is Thorns' character theme

[@pallas-bq2fi]

​@@Ezekiel_Allium yep, el brilo solitario

[@neonayse8803]

Of the four cornerstone operators, it seems like Mountain gets the least improvement in mods

[@MindayKalana]

A bit of a shame, but then he's very cheap dp wise and very low maintenance for what he does :p

[@IamHero_1337]

If all goes well, his second module is guaranteed to give him 15% Physical dodge. And it should upgrade the talent that already gives Physical dodge. If all goes well, he could become a true threat against Physical damage.

[@KaitoFlinn]

it's the price he pays for being one of the best set-and-forget units in the game

[@sekischro5093]

in calculations he gets 30% more dps

[@pallas-bq2fi]

​@@MindayKalana mountain is a 3+1 pump action shotgun, while thorns is a taurus circuit judge, search up on those guns and you'll see how much sense it makes.

[@zenalias3131]

Yooooo! Team Aegir featured in the Rat King map. Love it

[@kip7798]

one of my favorite types of videos on the channel! good to see thorns finally shining as a mixed damage unit like i always wanted

[@Kay-00]

Bro after seeing thorn module, now I really want Bluepoison module make her talent stackable like him.

[@nadiali8ekarimi249]

As a player who lacks a lot in arts damage operator, i see this as an absolute advantage 👏 nice improvements HG

[@voices0000]

sick module now that blaze and him are restored my brain can rest

[@Rexicide]

Thank you for your hard work!!

[@jjjjj248]

nah the true killer is the skin. sick AF 2:42 thorn kick when offskill attacking block enemies 😂

[@hartoramasenju4012]

All of the lord modules are great, then there's Frostleaf module

[@Zack_Zander]

She really should have guaranteed cold infliction (without allowing it to freeze on default) instead of a measly 25% with her already decreased ASPD, or at the very least make it so her skills guarantee the infliction.

[@Chordat3]

I misread his name on the title as Thomas 😭

[@KaitoFlinn]

Thorns the DoT Engine

[@pallas-bq2fi]

​@@KaitoFlinn this shit made me laugh

[@vanya3935]

Thank you for doing this.

[@prd6617]

it seem that his module kind of have the same trade-off similar to cantabile S1 not having it upgraded mean longer to kill enemies means more DP/SP from 1 target, having it upgraded make them more reliable but will hinder their DP/SP they can get from each target.

[@sorashizen5130]

I just got silverash from shop, cant wait for his mod and skin ^^ I'm still waiting for thorns l2d skin HG

[@Anomen77]

This module's existence only makes Blue Poison's module even more of a crime.

[@aereonexapprentice7205]

Frostnova's module dies so that Thorn's can live

[@doomclasher9287]

So FristNova did end up joining Rhodes Island... (let us pretend that my spelling mistake is part of the joke)

[@Zack_Zander]

Frostnova?

[@haatsunemiku]

@@Zack_Zanderi was wondering why u were confused before i remembered her name was frostleaf and not nova 💀💀

[@Zack_Zander]

@@haatsunemiku Frostnova has turned to ash and dust,

[@aereonexapprentice7205]

Frostleaf is so forgettable that my brain went immediately to Frostnova

[@Ender_Wiggin03]

We all know it's his skin that causes him to do more DPS, and not his module...

[@galuhdesuka7378]

This module is nice thought i will get the SA module first cause i don't use thorn very often

[@jevs1555]

They cooked with this module. And the damage difference is noticeable

[@reversal3628]

🅱estreza

[@KrazyBean14]

Ugh, I need more mod blocks...

[@Phiro00]

Can you do a video like this for lappland? And maybe qiubai too?

[@MorgtheDNDude]

Now give this module to my BP and will really be vibin.

[@idontwantahandlewhymustidothis]

Thorns is back baby

[@ElinaTai]

I LOVE THORNS CAINT WAIT FOR SKIN ON EN

[@Khroniclas]

Juicy content.

[@ironlegion1580]

Tbh, even if they say it's bad, I want it max, my poor thorns ain't doing damage at all to the new 2024 bosses

[@fimbulvetr6129]

People act like he got the Fartooth treatment for goodness sake

[@aldrichkyle7703]

am i the only one who liked Thorns' first skin more than the latest?

[@KinaCow]

I also prefer his shopping skin... I feel like he looks too expressionless for the dynamic pose in the new one. But the kick still makes me consider buying it xD

[@doctorkuroshi]

HG cooked his module so hard they forgot to cook his lore

[@sorashizen5130]

I know right? I wanted more screen time of him...thorns appearing in anime is a dream at this point

[@Jamesss6]

Thorny

[@nawfalmisconi1287]

What content was too hard for thorns and blaze before the mods?

[@DragonGJY]

Mostly high DEF enemies that they can't tackle without modules

[@Bruh_____________]

So... When does this module appear in global?

[@oosky]

Im a new player and Ivebeen struggling to clear ce5, and this guy just... Lol

[@theblissone]

His new skin him From throwing Yellow liquid to throwing Brown liquid,it more ripe

[@fischwell]

nu uh, im sorry but how do i know its the module and not the skin? maybe the costume is so slay it increases the damage output

[@elvatra8262]

Does his pot 5 talent increase help him to deal more dot?

[@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961]

How much time until Reclamation Algorithm 2 releases?

[@Razor4884]

Best guess is late July. So a bit under 2 months.

[@personcabinet8622]

great, frost leaf module is a joke, HG 100% know that she is sht, despite that fact, she has now a sht module whit her, INSTEAD OF FIXING her WITH A MODULE HG made a 1 april joke on her, nice. thorn module is overkill, silverslash too, they didin't need module at first place. this is like turn off your brain and thorns it or silverslah it moment. can't whait to see mlynar module that gives him omega overdamage. ohhh i get it now, the logos and w alter is too strong yea , old 6 stars look bad when compared to them yea ok , hg ok.

[@camtoantran8128]

0:13 is 135 + 10 = 150 ? v:

[@josephngaihte007]

With module, it's 135(+10) at pot 1, 150(+10) at pot 3.

[@sketchsama]

The potential increases it from 135 to 150, not the module

[@Zack_Zander]

Its 135/150, as in 135 *_OR_* 150 due to potentials

[@johndustin80]

Does anyone know when Thorns will be in the shop? Or when is the next 'pick your 6* pack? I need this man 🥹