Tier List - Shu/Zuo Le/Grain Buds 31/07/2024 - Arknights [Global Server]

[@Cesith]

Skip or Pull?

[@LONKULADE]

Pull!

[@porokichin7878]

Pull

[@mr.b0n0n09]

Skip

[@AnwarAhmad-sc9qn]

pull

[@theredpanda8163]

i would skip, as Ela is very close

[@CobaltSthenia]

There are a few questionable placements... Pozëmka and Ray are far stronger than Schwarz; the only players that could get S- value from Schwarz (playing on her mod6 versatility) are sniperknights players. E1 Amiya is hot garbage because she only gets accelerated cycling at E2. Haze has a much better E1, and at max she applies a constant strong RES debuff worth a B+. Mint is not equal to Beeswax, because her gimmick is shift and it's very rare to get value from a force 1 washing machine. Beeswax works better as a ranged tank as well thanks to her tanky stunbomb roadblock. Warmy is even worse than B- because there isn't a consistent burn proc for her. Her only use is warming my bed. Lappland needs E2 for permasilence so her E1 value is quite low. Tachanka is more gimmicky than Cutter (who's a very solid and consistent 4-star), so he'd be lower. Cuora probably deserves an A+ because she's very close to Nian's tankiness when both are on S2. Texas deserves an A+ because she's incredibly good for tough openings (+2 initial DP, 10s profit). Muelsyse, while I hate to say it, is not S for a new player, because you need to build a variety of good clones (at minimum a tank, a caster, and a marksman) for her to shine. Sussurro deserves an A+. Her consistent HPS is about 800, which will solve practically any healing check in the game. 2 uses per stage, but only 20s downtime. Weedy is definitely not S for a new player because using her as more than a (mediocre) laneholder or hole-pusher takes a lot of practice and knowledge. I suspect your tier list may have muddled operator strength with build priority, and the latter seems the goal since the video description targets new players. However, I totally get that a tier list takes an enormous amount of research, thought, and experience to do even halfway decently. And with GamePress in limbo it's more important than ever for other sources to offer comprehensive tier lists for new players to have a comprehensive build priority cheat sheet, so this up-to-date tier list is a valuable service.

[@Sairento-kun]

@@CobaltSthenia all depends on playstyle, sure schwarz is mostly for sniperknights but she has a lot of use here, so maybe just niche rank. I pref Mint over Beeswax all the way etc.

[@Kyokka]

I agree with you on every point. It especially hurts (as the truth) about Weedy: as a returning (but after 4+ years, actually newish) player, I found both her and Shaw at E1 lv1 on my account, and decided to build Weedy ofc. Only when she was E1lv60 already, I realized that she doesn't fit into supposed Shaw's job sometimes (was playing only by guides, bc remembering the game, and even when I was playing I didn't understand much yet, first game in the genre). At E2+, she would have coped well, but new accounts struggle with resources, and ofc I needed to E2 DPS operators first (I had a bunch of unbuilt 6stars from 3-4 months of playing at launch). So, now my Shaw is E2 lv10, and my Weedy is still E1 lv60, waiting when I can finally E2 her and Angelina to make those crazy plays.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

About mumu point i disagree. Any caster or tanky defender works with her. You dont need a 6 star one

[@UltimateNL1]

Agree with everything, except Schwarz shouldn't drop below S-. She is still incredibly consistent, has fast cycling and great damage, can act as a pseudo-FRD while buffing other snipers, or can deal with dodge as a mechanic. Her S2M3 also has a massive duration so she can handle consistent damage scenarios really well if her S3 isn't required.

[@xxxxpower2449]

​@@UltimateNL1You still have to compare Schwarz to the other snipers when making a tier list. The difference between her and Ray (and Typhon) is really really big. And when Wisadel will be on global, oh boy...

[@Sairento-kun]

Shu a must pull for sure, alone for her design. The best sybling for me and funny playstyle (u will feel pain IS 2nd boss, have fun running in loop)

[@alexandersebela370]

I felt pain just by reading your comment. You must hate english language.

[@MrYamiBakura]

​@@alexandersebela370Get over yourself

[@momomomomogi]

​@@alexandersebela370damn bro that's crazy. getting worked up over grammar

[@macsenpai7006]

I got both Shu and Zuo Le in just 33 pulls. This is probably my luckiest banner to date. Now, I can save for Ela, Logos and Wis'adel. Good luck my fellow Doctahs!

[@ridwannur9883]

Same, 31 pull and got both

[@gluewz1318]

I got both just on an abandoned account

[@randx1075]

i also got them both in 50 pulls..but its all from the free pulls...so my resource are untouch...also still have 20 ticket😂

[@Land_3]

Im at 40+ and only zuo le, i hope i get lucky with the daily pulls because I'm super broke rn

[@kasumiWp]

lucky for dude. 50 pull 1 dupe chongyue and 1 zuo le.. no shu 🥲

[@phoenixreborn7579]

I appreciate the effort you go through to make a tier list as big and thorough as this, the problem I personally have with most tier lists however is the over-centralization of high burst dps ops over anything else. You have ops like Surtr and Mlynar in OP tier. They're amazing when you use their skills, but they are completely useless between skill rotations. You need a well built team to support ops like this being able to hold your lanes with essentially an empty slot most of the time. So these long rotation dps ops are more of a negligence than actual help on most clears short of maybe the event boss because you really don't need that kind of damage for anything else. Another reason I think support units like Skadi alter are more valuable is because dps is constantly being pushed and when newer dps units get released older ones lose relevance, but because Skadi alter is a damage buffer it'll be unlikely for her to suffer from powercreep the same way dps units do. (not impossible, unlikely because dps ops sell better and they know this; Degen, Ray, Ascelon, Ela, Logos and Walter all push the dps meta for their respective class and they were released in a span of 6 months). The reason I want to comment on this is because ratings like these do affect newcomers negatively. I can speak from experience as I was one of them. As a new player I got a selector ticket and looked at what tier lists like this recommended and overwhelmingly I was told to get Surtr. Because I didn't have enough experience I trusted videos like this from players like you who know what they are talking about to guide me. She was my first e2 with s3m3, but because the rest of my units weren't up to par I couldn't do most clears as Surtr was dead weight to me because my team couldn't support her rotations. So for newer players I'd recommend Blaze or Typhon as they're amazing upgrades for your defensive line-up that will carry you through most clears. Because their s2 is their bread and butter they don't need much investment to get going. I'm sorry for the criticism, again I appreciate your effort and most of this is accurate, I just think it's important for newer players to be informed about some of the downsides of high burst dps ops.

[@akmaludddin9281]

We can do lane holding with literally everybody (im exaggerating ofc) but high burst dmg dealer are rarer and easier to compare.

[@Mistesia]

Saria was my first 6 star operator, she always be part of my formation, but now is her turn to retired after i got shu

[@seafood_hater]

I believe the first BGM is sung in Hokkien, which is a Chinese dialect. Lovin the hell out of it.

[@corvosweet-moon8629]

First free pull i got shu. Almost to the 300 pity and not a single zuo. Yes i saved up, and yes i will whale if i have to for just one of him

[@persianman-sz7ir]

I entered arknights after a break, got the free 10 pull, did a 10 pull, and got Zhou Le b😮

[@shadowrider6578]

only tips i can give is try to avoid building ops that aren't op,s+,s,highlighted(gud invesment),and niche.the only exception is like thorn despite being s- he actually one of the best laneholder there so if u get him,immediately build him.and try to build the dps ops first while niche is the most last (except if there is a specific stages that u really want to clear like lappland silence in stulfera navis event)

[@guess_who6297]

Thanks for big work cause i jist started and the were only 20-21 year tier lists Can you after all subclasses show full class table? Im new so dont know all names or by their look

[@thornszk]

Got Shu and Zuo Le from the free 1+10pulls. (Let me flex, my recent AK banner sessions were horrendous)

[@kyarumomochi5146]

This one was probably your best one to date! Snipers: Ray could be S+ (very debetable) but other than that perfect imo! Casters: Perfect Guards: Chefs kiss, i personally think NTR could be S+ but thats it. Executor2 could be S too instead of S+ as i see Zuo a bit better than him Defenders: Finally Saria isnt S+. Chef kiss Vanguards: Tbh wanqing should be lower than Myrtle as he cant go below 10 DP, thats about it imo Medics: No medic overrating is amazing. Your medic list is absolutely perfect. Supporters: Literally perfect. Specialists: FINALLY YATO OP TOO. Its 100% perfect now. I would personally rank Spalter S+ but thats it and S fits too. Your tierlists are legitimately the best on global right now. Im thankful for your service.

[@InnerWorls]

Happy to see Yalter in OP category

[@ANTSPlantation]

Yes I agree that this is a good list, I personally think chongyue > mountain (both with module). Ofc mountain is easier to use, but once big chongus charges up 5 attacks, he becomes the best lane holder in the game easily (with a healing source).

[@shadowrider6578]

@@ANTSPlantation tho i think ppl would prefer mountain since he was a non limited,far easier to use,his skill charge faster,and unlike chongus,he have self sustain.both mountain and chongus main use are laneholding and i can tell that mountain is more effective.(tho chongus have bigger range and actually can hit more enemies than mountain)

[@ANTSPlantation]

@@shadowrider6578 As a solo laneholder then of course mountain. But nowadays, every new event has enemies with high defense, mountain tends to struggle with the elite enemies. Chongyue has no issues with dealing with elite enemies as long as you have a good healer on him. I have both of them E2 level 90, M3 + maxed module. I use chongyue ten times more than mountain, pair chongyue up with skalter S2 and not even the toughest elite enemy is getting past.

[@shadowrider6578]

​@@ANTSPlantationyea u rite,the more high def enemies will appear each update so congus have better value.but well I would just use both since I love turning my brain off and using afknights

[@OwGash]

Zuo is so fire emblem. Which is a pretty big coincidence because I was watching Fire Emblem videos all day yesterday xd

[@realityexpectations5448]

having both tex alter and kirin yato makes the game easier for me.

[@crimson_phoenix9629]

Will kirin yato comeback again or not? I miss her banner, so sad

[@InnerWorls]

@@crimson_phoenix9629seeing that 6 siege collab again , hopefully. When did you join the game ? I remember I was so excited for her banner , I joined the game 2 months before her banner and grinding the orundum like a madman .

[@crimson_phoenix9629]

@@InnerWorls i actually started the game since 2022, then i stopped playing the game. Then made a comeback on texas alter banner, and then stopped playing again until the muelsyse banner. Now i’m saving for Wis’adel. Sadly i’m gonna skipped the r6 collab banner just to save for Wis’adel. I just got Shu after 20 pulls but no Zuo Le. I think i’m fine without Zuo Le although he is very interesting to play. Wis’adel is my priority now🤣

[@animelife1531]

​@crimson_phoenix9629 You miss it because Yato is a collaboration... but who knows because Rainbow collaboration came back 3 years later.

[@yuusya7369]

I think at least Typhon is S+ or better.

[@sweggy4lyfendaiz878]

Thanks for the videos, they really help since I'm new! One thing that really confused me though is some of your character branches are completely different names so I had difficulty finding some like Zuo le for example. No clue what Musha is...

[@Damon-m3d]

High invest not recommended

[@alison_frz3917]

Ain't no way he NTRed Manticore 💀 Now she's his 1st ex

[@Friend448]

Ain't no way tachanka is swordmaster💀

[@gaerekxenos]

Oh, Ethan? I mean... >

[@DeadMedvedness]

@@gaerekxenos Ethan with mastery 3 Surely S+

[@noragami9013]

still saving pot 6 wisadel...im gonna need her at full potential,max skill,full mastery and complete module...deleting enemy time is close but yet so far

[@jaimegonzalezjr2169]

Got zuo le in the pull in 36 tries, but since im new it means all the pulls I can afford right now as my forth 6 star, still extremely good and can't complain

[@megugao]

you should definitely build him as he is of the musha class whose specialty is healing themself and getting stronger the lower their health get, for newbie i would say self sustaining operator is very valuable as you need a good laneholder to stall enemies without the need of healer

[@jaimegonzalezjr2169]

@megugao I agree, it just going to take a while to get him to E2 when I got him, I E2 a different 6 star guard to make killing bosses easier, I currently have (in terms of meta healers in 5 star or higher) no healers, over can't be unhappy about the roll, just hoping I can get Shu to get a healer defender as it fixes my healer defender problem.

[@xxxxpower2449]

​@@jaimegonzalezjr2169If you don't get Shu remember that even Nearl (5 star) and Gummy (4 star) are good healing defenders

[@jaimegonzalezjr2169]

@@xxxxpower2449 Ok, thank you for the help!

[@shadowrider6578]

@@megugao plus how crazy he was soloing many stages so u can pretty much clear stages with him only.the only thing u need to have is brain and if ur brain is lacking than u have skill issue adn bring extra ops instead to make it easier

[@fuwasatoshi5076]

Thx as always for the Tier List

[@bmn6001]

Trying to get Shu, got 2 Zuo Lee up until now Edit: the 2 Zuo Lee's came in 31 pulls

[@UnoriginalNICKname123]

I feel you bro.. I got 5 zuo lees in 80 pulls. Im devastated and shu-less 😔

[@garlick-is-1-from-vegetable]

I always get best guards and vanguards, but not other species

[@maimai955]

後ろで流れてる映像気になる…！

[@suluhwidyotomo7942]

I havent played Arknights since 2020 and Exusiai is still S tier lmao

[@AliceSakihara]

I-I Have no idea how this is possible, I have been saving up ALL my currency for this banner, and I literally got Shu 5 times and Zuo Le twice!!!! WTF IS THIS WITCHCRAFT!?!?!?

[@Crownslayer013]

Whew this is where my shu went

[@chocomilk2270]

Wow lucky me 10 free pull getting typoon, zou Lee and shu

[@lloleolom]

Absolutely agree with disclaimer!!! 👍 aaaaand totally disagree that Reed alter is not in OP category ... again 😔

[@Sairento-kun]

Welp she is, tier lists are personal perspectives, so if you feel Reed Alter is OP and you use her then she is

[@InnerWorls]

Your profile seems familiar from arknights subReddit . Especially in the Theresa and Priestess post, yah it’s definitely you 😅. By the way Priestess > Theresa

[@luxraptor79]

I've come back after a break since the MH event. I have Yato Alter E2, which skills should I get mastery in for her first? Also have there been any exceptional modules since then that I should look out for if I have the operator in my roster?

[@InnerWorls]

Yato alter both S2&S3 is really good , priority S3 if you’re lacking range unit and S2 if ground is lacking. Her mod is one of the best , so yah unlock that and lvl 3

[@villgernumber1132]

I'm surprised that Ling is an S+ instead of OP

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Not that good in current high end content but will be good in IS5

[@hisoka1017]

Is reed alter and reed the flame shadow the same?

[@KebinKaslana10]

Yes, she is.

[@EsLokina]

I've been planning out my true team.. not based on how good but who i like the most. I got Hoshiguma, Shu, Shinning, and Ray. I am aiming for Ifrit, Lin, Reed the Flame Shadow, and Ascalon. But past those 4. I don't have anyone else that i want badly. Anyway, the question is, how would you rate Ascalon. (P.s. Lappland is a maybe for the team. So is a couple of others but Lappland the most likely since i really like her.)

[@Silver-tb7hf]

I LOVE HAROLD RAHHHH good harold placement 👍 but you should swap him and berry just to make him look batter.

[@thatonesunnysunday]

If operators like Typhon and Virtuosa are given S, why is Executor Alter S+? And why is Jessica Alter S-? Although I don't fully agree, I know it's not easy to make these videos so, good job.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

None of those operators has anything in common lmfao

[@gaerekxenos]

Probably in consideration for their respective jobs and roles. Though I honestly don't know what's with the Executor Alter rating... I don't use him, so I honestly can't tell you how good or terrible he is. I don't use Reaper Guards =/

[@akmaludddin9281]

i don't know with Virtuosa and Thypon. but Exalter never out from my main squad just bcs how usefull he is. (or maybe bcs i didn't have better op :v)

[@theguywhichismessingaround]

​@@gaerekxenosFedEx is just a great unit that can reach młynar's levels of damage when his skill is active, has extreme levels of survivability and has true aoe, although, just like in gamepress tierlist, he is and should be ranked below młynar because his damage is tied to his talent 1 crits. That's... Honestly about it. He also has def ignore on his S1 and talent 1 /w mod, Dodge with his s2, and can survive a beating from most of the bosses when his s3 is active, but besides that, he's just another guard with big damage. That's about it

[@sssoursop]

consistency problem

[@huanhoangkiem7589]

Should i take Shu or W alter, ive to choose only one not "just get both" 😭

[@_rayzen]

You dont need to heal if everything is dead 😂, from the looks of it W alter is busted

[@huanhoangkiem7589]

@@_rayzen make sense😅

[@shadowrider6578]

@@huanhoangkiem7589 u should save for w alter and ela since collab banner now even need like 3 years to have a rerun

[@hisoka1017]

How is it that some characters are better as E1 + SL7 than when they’re at max?

[@urnme24]

Anyone know source the last song?

[@nando7811]

Reed alter best girl heck yeah 🎉🎉

[@DerevoSN]

Lol, didnt put Ling on OP XDD

[@zyanking78]

hoshiguma is overrated, but overall accurate tier list. got zuo after 50+pull, not gonna risk for shu, better save for wisadel for cultural reason 😂

[@EsLokina]

No she ain't, she freaking amazing

[@ANTSPlantation]

I still strongly stand by this, Chongyue 2x better than mountain

[@JorinaJemi-q1b]

Harris Brian Walker Elizabeth Robinson Steven

[@Licherm]

What does it mean when the ranking of a character is colored in orange ? (Like Lappland)

[@EsLokina]

Mean it's a very good investment

[@hilda4195]

Thanks! Having played since the release I got well over 90% of the characters by now (Saga... why do you hate me so...), so I honestly hardly pay attention to new 4-5* unless they're super niche or someone is very vocal about them. It's nice to finally see if they have some actual use 😂I was just checking out CN module priorities a moment ago, but looking at the tier list I may as well play around with some 6* collecting dust as well 🤔 SilverAsh coming back to S tier? Viviana having some use after being smashed to pieces on her banner? 🤔Some archetypes still seem to be hopeless no matter how many characters they add.

[@agungfirdaus9923]

When Yato join Limited Banner ? I want him

[@septima108]

No, it's limited collaboration hero, wait rerun

[@stabby8418]

I can probably understand the rest but how come warfarin is higher than shining though

[@たすく-v4f]

Atk buff, maybe

[@EsLokina]

Because Def buffs are seen as very low tier on importance but attack buffs are loved.

[@allifmarizan9621]

Reed Alter the best girl ...

[@SebastianKhyleLBaja]

Puts chalter on op but puts typhon on s tier, yeah this tierlist is ass

[@papapo777]

the chongyue rating is insane. chongyue is way better than mountain now especially with shu’s 2nd talent and his module its not even close anymore. mountain isnt even very good in recent content anymore theres way better laneholders than him, meanwhile chongyue is insane now with shu talent 2 giving him free sp and damage, making getting his skill 3 super easy. and if you have skalter as well his damage almost doubles. mountain is a fraud compared to chongyue, the only content where mountain is better is IS and low level story stages where you dont have any e2 operators, but you can clear those stages with 2 stars so who cares. I will admit chongyue is a loser in IS. but in everything else chongyue is now a top 3 guard in the game

[@momomomomogi]

It's a matter of preference tbh. Tier list in itself is a subjective opinion. Though I do get where this is coming from

[@akmaludddin9281]

Cmon, they have different role. Mountain is a solo lane holder and that is rarer than pure dps. and yeah, there are more dps better than Chongyue and have better range. I don't say Chongyue damage bad but he just "replacable"

[@akmaludddin9281]

I Have both and use neither bcs i have Execalter. He do better at both lane holding than Mountain and better dmg than Chongyue.

[@INFM424]

bro said waifu

[@NguyenTien-st5vn]

mumu and rosmontis being two weakest 6* limited operator but i still love their design

[@Sinkureaaaah]

Who the hell told you mumu is weak??? Anyone who said this must be a new player that doesn't have max level e2 yet. Slap a penance or dorothy on mumu, and suddenly a lane became a joke. She's nowhere near bad 💀 weakest limited op is probably rosmo and the original W.

[@NguyenTien-st5vn]

@@Sinkureaaaah i nearly forgot that org w exist in this game and since limited operator like tex, chalter, yato and skalter are usually very strong and bring better value than mumu that's why, mumu absolutely terrible for player that doesn' have a good team to go with especially new player

[@stef2337]

Asian mom in every Rhodes

[@黃朝佑-o3e]

竟然是中文歌

[@PikachuPolice]

New player - idk wtf is this classes

[@megugao]

i suggest not to bother with these tier lists yet instead watch some stage guides where you got stuck on and plan who to build from there