Budget Van Life: Affordable Campervans for 2025

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Go to surfshark.com/happydays for 4 extra months of Surfshark

[@AmandaDale-f7r]

@@ThoseHappyDays can't we all not put £2.00 in a pot for you, 43k looked at this.. 🤔 so you can buy the one you want..

[@DaveOfTheForest]

I'd donate too

[@bigtoe333333]

Guys, apologies for sounding harsh but you are not being logical in your requirements, and that could lead to another poor choice. You're saying you want a garage but also a big rear lounge. That's not a compromise thing, it's two completely incompatible requirements. And there's not much storage space in a van conversion that has a rear lounge, as you said Liam. I know you don't like MHs, but the things you say you want can only really be found in a MH. And Morgan was more like a MH in terms of space. A MH is not the cool choice in terms of looks, but it suits what you say you want much better than a van conversion.

[@johnthomson7717]

Hi - Go to America and buy one there then sell it - will be far cheaper, bigger, and more for your money - and driving on the correct side of the road (easier)…. No transporting it over there cost and stress!!!!

[@nlryan1]

Ordinarily I’d agree however the economic situation in the states is rather precarious so buying would be good but maybe not so much the selling especially if you are paying cash. Can be a little tricky and getting stuck in the states can become expensive in a hurry .

[@paulinehiggins8239]

Isn’t the insurance a problem buying in America, I recall Liam saying something about it a while back.

[@nlryan1]

@ insurance is pricey in the states and will undoubtedly be more so for you but it is mandatory by law. so you cannot drive without it. Maybe consider renting one in the US

[@janisaschim2429]

Vans are much more expensive in America.

[@nlryan1]

@ that’s why renting might be the better option. Considering what it would cost to transport to and from, plus the van would have to pass inspection to meet with standards and if needed the changes would have to be made. We brought a car from Germany years ago and although relatively new still needed to have certain safety changes made. Also, on another note, many cities do not allow overnight parking for vans or campers because so many people have been living in. Their cars and vans. My suggestion is to determine what areas of the country you really want to see, buy a few plane tickets and rent a car to explore. Get a feel for the states so you have a more informed understanding of what you would be getting into. It’s a BIG country

[@pauline7418]

I agree with what many of the others have said. I'd much rather have a better spec second hand van rather than a new basic van.

[@simonlockwood72]

Hi guys been watching you guys a few years now, can’t help thinking you’ll be much happier long term in a motorhome rather than a van, more like Morgan was

[@TheJulesy]

Take your time guys, you are better with a nearly new, used model. Don't be seduced by 'new'! Don't compromise on insulation, fly screens etc and hold out for an automatic - much more relaxing to drive ❤

[@DjKayD]

Booo, manual is more fun! get a tesla if you want a self driving car 😜

[@tonysinclair4]

'If'you're going to the States and Canada buy one over there and sell it before returning. Taking a UK registered van is going to be fraught with problems, shipping, tax, insurance and customs documentation. Good luck if you go that route. Pity you got rid of your removal van after all the engine changes

[@poppymason-smith1051]

They can also get a larger vehicle with more amenities than Liams driving licence would allow in the uk, and with bigger US roads he shouldn't be worried by the size. Im completely with you on this basically since they mentioned shipping vans about...

[@correctaperture]

@@tonysinclair4 I doubt without being a US citizen you can register a vehicle for the roads as a non-US resident.

[@annewinning9723]

You can in Canada

[@SideTripLife]

Yep buy in Canada, a 'Pleasure-Way Ontour', top design, 6'6" lengthways auto-fold bed, top quality interiors, like a cozy apt suite. Could likely also sell it after for near what you buy for (as it's a great Canadian company eh:)

[@annewinning9723]

Insulation does not appear great on the back doors

[@Barneysma]

Ken and Carol’s Consort van looks so comfortable. Someone said to me when I was thinking of buying a van, don’t get one made by a caravan manufacturer i.e Swift etc. It would be worth researching any van you are considering on van life FB pages, getting the opinions of people who may have the same/similar. You are in a cycle of being rushed each time you need a new van, which isn’t helping you to make the best choice. Maybe try to break it by renting something else whilst you decide what to do.

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Good idea thank you

[@journeytakesatrip]

Keep looking. You want to be sure that you’ve seen everything and are making the right choice. I’m glad to see you prioritising comfy seating. It’s essential to have somewhere to relax when you’re living this way full time. In the same vein don’t get a bed that’s too short. You need to be able to stretch out and nobody sleeps with their head and feet touching each end of the bed comfortably. Put a pillow on the floor up against a wall lie on the pillow properly (your head won’t be touching the wall) and then stretch your legs out with your toes relaxed and pointing. Measure yourself like that, that’s how long you need the bed to be. I know you’re impatient to find the right van but try to take the stress off yourselves by realising that the time constraints that you’re imposing on yourself really aren’t that rigid. The Americas will still be there, spring is still a few months off. As for the deadline of having to take the other camper back you could always rent another van or other quirky accommodation for a few weeks, or even stay with family and video the van hunt whilst you’re still looking at what to buy. Making the right choice is more important than making a quick choice.

[@CarolynParker-or3zn]

I cant keep up with you and the vans 🤣

[@christineomara4787]

The 2 Yr old one that was under £50,000 was so much nicer than the basic new one,and 20,000miles isn't a lot. It also looked more spacious. If you had the new one and needed certain things added, you could end up spending more in the end. 🤔

[@shooster5884]

I don't see an advantage to a brand new one... you lose resale value as soon as you drive a brand new one onto the road.. and these two buy and sell frequently! I liked the one you liked... for the same reasons..and 20, 000 miles merely means broken in and settled down.. plus saving the few 1000 pounds for any extras they want to add to it😊

[@nigelfenlon9035]

​@@shooster5884 exactly you lose all the tax hidden in the price as soon as you take possession of the keys, so second hand a bedded in engine with 20-30000 miles on the clock is definitely the way to go

[@QB2ERS]

@@christineomara4787 I reckon if it managed 20k it proves it at least goes!

[@heathermorris3756]

Rent in America..save your money to come home and buy a full time,warm comfortable van here..x

[@scotthughes5281]

This sounds like a good possible safe option. What are the higher costs like in USA for say 1 year v's purchasing, tax/import costs etc?

[@beccapike9260]

Why don’t you wait until you are in Canada before you buy another van? We have so much more here to choose from and they are much bigger and more setup for full time living.

[@clairrollings3988]

I would have thought cheaper too also in USA.

[@edwardhudson9851]

AMEN 😊

[@arkadventure2]

@@beccapike9260 👍 🇨🇦

[@viniettamajor6415]

The two year old is great,much better than the "basic"new one, its going to be your home so dont cut corners again just because its new. Liam dont get carried away again.

[@sarahb2652]

Hi, it's nice to see a few options. The only advice I can give is to make sure you get your 'wants'. Don't compromise. Get the garage, get the oil heating and the right layout otherwise you will be doing this all again in a year! Please keep your sensible head on as well as your heart. It is for living in and you don't want to be annoyed by lack of storage, a short bed and no diesal heating as soon as you get it. There is something to be said for getting a better quality second hand than a cheaper new which doesn't tick all the important boxes eg: heating and garage storage, bed. Also don't forget your budget, it is easy to buy a new cheaper, but you have to factor in all the retro fits which will add on even more money. Good luck.👍

[@smedheads6676]

Hi guys we just watched your latest video and wanted to let you know from our experience. My wife and I spent over 12 months full time living in a CV20 and it was fab and iam 6' 2" too. I did some retro fit work with putting lithium set up in but I know some people just add another leisure battery in if funds are tight. We had a diesel heater fitted mounted under the van and vented out on the plinth by the driver and passenger seat. For a garage we had a lockable box that attached to the tow bar to keep chairs, tables ,ramps etc it worked great. Bedding was stored in the overhead locker and we had plenty of storage for clothes etc. I actually took the microwave out and turned that into another cupboard for plates cups etc as we did a lot of off grid. If we have any questions about it just let me know and will be happy to answer any questions. We love watching you guys, have done for years so just give us a shout if we can help.

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Nice to hear that, especially that you have one thank you

[@janinemills6732]

So, you were supposed to have a larger demountable on order? How come you're still shopping? Nice to see different vans though

[@ThoseHappyDays]

We took it on a trip and after the trip we decided against it for full time van living 😊

[@Sk-ie4qn]

I love you guys but please breathe before you make another decision. Liam sweetie you have said quite a lot with your vans - ‘I can cope with that’ but seriously can you live with it on a permanent basis, long term? I would definitely wait to discuss the pros and cons with your friends before you buy anything. Even if it means a b&b for a while. I don’t ever post negative comments oh your videos and I don’t mean this to be negative. Take care guys ❤ Good luck 🥰

[@jaywren20]

That was my thought too. As soon as Liam said 'I can cope with that' alarm bells went off. If this is to be be at least a long term home then coping isn't a good idea. For me weighing the enthusiasm with the practicality I would say that used black one was a good fit.

[@chrisemptage1366]

Banbury you are pretty close to me in Reading they’re are some HUGE van/Camper van places here in Berkshire there is a big one on the way to Newbury.

[@jansweeney1333]

I too concur👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@jansweeney1333]

@@jaywren20I concur with what you ve said🫶🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Smartgran]

Liam won't cope with that bed. I didn't like the "new" van at all but I think more to the point Liam will be sorry if they get it.

[@MargueriteHawkins]

A second hand one with bug screens , you will be sorry if you don't have bug screens.. also an auto gearbox i would go for if that is your preference...other things you can add .Don't like the new white one for 53k without the step , awning and screens..it looks cheap. I would look at slightly higher mile vehicles as well. Air con for me would be essential . I bought a five year old mercedes 310d some years ago..151k on the clock, one owner..sold it 13 years later with 314k on the clock..never had any engine trouble at all...never broke down. Good luck and take you r time !

[@sallyweddell6577]

Do nothing in haste. A few nights in a hotel will always be more cost effective than making a purchase that you regret. I think the U shaped lounge would serve you best… you can sit back against the back of the van and chill and the storage space below - in the form of a garage - would be invaluable for all sorts. Good luck… I think you’re very brave to film this and open yourselves up to all your viewers chipping in with their two pence worth. I love your eternal optimism… just make sure you don’t make a costly mistake for the sake of a few days/weeks.

[@PaulCarr-l7o]

You can’t live your lives on You Tube as full time van lifers and not expect people to “chip in” with valid questions Like 1) what did happen to the blue Westfalia 2) what happens to the order they place for the rig similar to the one they took to the Arctic circle 3) if the rig they took to the Arctic Circle was a loaner how did they get away with carrying out so many mods to it 4) if this is a precursor to shipping a camper to the US why are they look at campers at Spinneys which aren’t fit for purpose All smells a bit wiffy to me

[@annmarielatimer7889]

I was thinking about Ken and Carol's camper van because it seems to have a lot of features to make living off grid possible

[@ThoseHappyDays]

It's a beautiful thing

[@ilikejelly7890]

Remember Liam, when the double bed is made up, your feet can hang off the end in the middle. You won't be lying tight up to the wall of the van. It's funny that you looked colder in the uk than on the last trip. 😂😂😂. Another good video, guys. Michelle x

[@hegedusuk]

Taking a UK campervan to the US is not a good idea. There might be all sorts of reasons why it might not be road legal.

[@leslieelizabeth219]

Common sense tells you that.

[@bcamping1]

They wouldn't be able to sell UK van in USA if something went bad.

[@hegedusuk]

@@leslieelizabeth219 it would make more sense to buy one in the US and sell it at the end of the trip. Or rent one. Then you know it’ll be compliant. It’ll probably have their roadside help thing that we don’t have in the UK, the radio will be compatible with their digital broadcasts, they don’t keep getting stopped by aggressive US cops, it’ll be easier to insure, spare parts will be easier to get, the petrol nozzles will fit (seriously - they have a different size for either diesel or petrol), the hookup (if needed) will be the right voltage, the tyres will be US standard. There’s a lot more.

[@josimpson7999]

I know, I don’t get it. But I think there was talk of insurance issues on a US van for a Brit. There’s no issues on car hire there, but maybe I’m missing something?

[@sayaka8587]

Should of kept Morgan, was a lovely van. Never mind Hope you find your dream ❤

[@A-Nobody]

Morgan was slow, underpowered and too high when faced with winds.

[@hannatjie8884]

24:25 ​@@A-Nobody was probably a Ford, he doesn't like one.. We have a ford camper nothing wrong with it .

[@user-Tortured-soul]

There’s a lovely couple on here who toured the USA They purchased a camper van when they got to US and they sold it when they were ready to come home. The import and export cost have risen a lot this year.❤

[@Kathryn-h8f]

You guys need to get a grip that's 70 grand don't get yourself In to that kind of debt

[@ThoseHappyDays]

​@Kathryn-h8f yeah we havent got 70k to spend

[@AnitaT-d3m]

Whatever happened with earlier van you bought before the demountable -I don't think you ever said? That seemed to really fit your needs ( altho it was very expensive from what i saw )

[@traceybootle1005]

We’re on our last month of a 10month US and Canada in our Consort Campervan. It’s been fantastic 👍

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Can you send me an email please, would love to chat

[@malcolmpearcey3521]

What about the van you ordered , or was that another mistake!

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Mentioned in the video, but we decided against it after this shake down trip...and moving forward 👍

[@alanhat5252]

The living space is less than half the length of the vehicle, you get the awkward parking of a long vehicle without the benefit of more interior space.

[@LeisureBit]

Welcome back from the Arctic! We have a CV20 and have had it for 3 years and have fitted Lithium, and the microwave works off-grid with the setup :) Plenty of folks have fitted diesel heaters also so don’t let that put you off too - would be easy enough to add a rear garage if that’s what you wanted… In all honesty, have had no problems of any concern with ours in 3 years. Keep an eye out on CV20s as you may get a new one for not much more than the 2nd hand one. However, If you can get brand new you of course benefit from warranty both vehicle and conversion! Great peace of mind. All the very best with your hunt! All the best, David & Rachel 👍

[@bongy36]

As soon as the CV20 came on I was going to suggest that they checked out your channel 😊

[@gjqhryndgkyokploirby]

Take as much time as you can on deciding, and make an informed decision. I seem to remember the last several vans have been the right decision, and keepers only for you to sell them several months later.

[@mikeroutledge6929]

i thought you had bought a ford ranger with a bigger pod on it ??? confused

[@ThoseHappyDays]

The one in the video is similar to the one we ordered, and had it on loan. But after taking it to the arctic and back we decided against it for full time living so got a refund

[@arkadventure2]

@@ThoseHappyDays a 4 WD truck camper would probably have been a better option for Canada and the US, than a dinky Ducato campervan.

[@RedPowerStation]

I had a factory built motorhome and upgraded the electrics, there is loads you can do. The Ducato usually has space under the passenger seat for another battery and I upgraded the lead acid battery to lithium. I fitted myself a 380W solar panel, upgraded the charge controller, fitted a battery monitor - all Victron and controlled via Bluetooth on a phone. You can usually access all the plumbing and electrics to add insulation, run wires etc. You can get tables built, storage etc after market. I think the important thing is to look at the insulation for the low temperatures. Air flow is super important but you can easily fit fans etc. The one thing for the USA to e aware of is an AC unit... very pricy for a van. However if the vehicle has AC you would be OK when it gets super hot. Probably also worth exploring upgrading the alternator for charging the battery and to use the vehicle engine as a generator as a last resort. As you may know, Walmart propane bottles will be the way to go in the USA.

[@clay2pot]

Don't obsess on new. It will depreciate as soon as you take it away. 10,20,30,000 miles is nothing. Used you will find one with everything you want/need. Have a look online, you can view dozens, then make a short list.

[@alanhat5252]

agreed

[@alanhat5252]

New vehicles have teething troubles meaning they can spend a lot of their first year sitting back at the dealership.

[@fairyfizz3102]

All of the recalls that would happen in first couple of years

[@simonseldom]

good point 20% VAT lost don day one

[@Kathryn-h8f]

Im sorry guy youse are picking garbage tara

[@casitacindy461]

I like the used one with the 19k miles on it. All the kinks have been worked out.

[@Upwardhalo305]

I think you'd be less in love with the tracker when you see how much of a pain it would be to set the bed up every night and disassemble every morning

[@arkadventure2]

You need AWD for the States, especially if you are planning on camping off grid, and being there over the winter months. A front wheel drive Ducato (like the Ram Promaster in the US) will not get you of slippery situations or prevent you from getting stuck in soft soil conditions. My suggestion - wait until you get to the States and get a used Ford AWD

[@pakilford]

Sorry guys, you got my head spinning just like yours now. You keep changing your minds at about everything you plan to do. What ever you do next , I wish you well. Good luck.

[@petergilmore1234]

Hi guys, we’ve had a Consort Nova van conversion for nearly two years now and find with the u shaped lounge and the underseat garage it’s perfect and that includes our two miniature schnauzers. No issues with the cold as we survived the cairngorms last year in -8 degrees and 6 inches of snow with no problems . Consort are a great company and have no hesitation in sorting any issues that occur with the van. Good luck with your search but a u shaped lounge is the perfect setup 👍

[@alcatraz3539]

I can't even think how many people would find vans like that affordable. There's a lot of vanlifers who just live in vans costing a couple of grand? And what are your thoughts on KZbin vanlifers who seem to miraculously upgrade after a few months?

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Affordable in comparison

[@laurencelacey6056]

Don't forget the voltage is 120v in the States. Best to buy there.

[@maryduncan9168]

Anything is better than the car you were living in. Take your time and choose the right one. Dont make do! I love watching you both, though. X

[@kateberger613]

I vote on the used one. The second to last can you showed. So it has a microwave. You can use that for storage. And Liam, you won’t like the bed in the last one. You said it would do. But it’s too short. You said you’d make do in your Arctic one. You couldn’t. The used one is cheaper and 12000 no big deal. That’s my vote

[@garyhillman4993]

Just take your time Liam , don’t rush. You liked the West Farlia last year there might be a few second hand ones around now. Good luck

[@josimpson7999]

Totally agree with many comments about taking your time - don’t be impulsive! I still can’t fathom for a nano second why you aren’t purchasing a van once you are in the US, and selling before returning home. I think you mentioned difficulties with insurance? What works for your life in the UK won’t necessarily work in the US and vice versa. All this swopping and changing would drive me bonkers. But good luck to you both 🤞

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Swapping and changing is driving us bonkers...it's not nice

[@MrQuintonia]

I have been watching you guys from the start of van life, you are great to watch as I never know what you are going to do next, but you need to think carefully about options on making yet another change to your living arrangements. That last van you showed here the new one was no good for you to sleep in, far too small, and you really don't want to be stepping backward, yes it was cheap, but a good secondhand one with low mileage that you can stretch out in would be a lot better and you won't lose as much money if you have to change it again, buy new and you lose so much when you go to re-sell it...

[@steb9210]

Blimey not another change of plan

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Unfortunately so, but believe it or not we are hoping it's the last time as its really rubbish moving home all the time

[@tonywellard458]

@@ThoseHappyDays I'm glad your moving away from Ford. Toyota are best for reliability.

[@grahamwinn979]

Toyota Hybrid alphard. Estima. Sienna. Automatic E Constantly Variable Transaxle. With Electric propulsion. Ulez compliant. Electric power house on wheels with a consort van conversion. The Best of Both Worlds petrol and electric propulsion. Hybrid Happiness. Why stop drive and charge. Japanese imports are available in the UK and US. World wide parts available cost effective including repairs.

[@MartinTraylor]

You will make ur mind up 🙄

[@agfbuilding]

Pity they don’t do a Mercedes sprinter version , Ford , Peugeot / Renault / fiat are all crap really if your planning on doing a lot of miles

[@danvanman4529]

Great video guys. I very rarely comment on KZbin videos however your closing comments regarding Consort Motorhomes have compelled me to do so. Can I just say that they are the most delightful company in the UK and their motorhomes are vastly superior to anything available on the UK market. The craftsmanship and detail that define their vehicles is unrivalled. They are a very good company to interact with too. Out of all the vans you've both looked at there on this video not a single one compares to a Consort Motorhome. Good luck.

[@kevjaffray]

Agreed. Watching James & Helen (bythecurb) get their van from Consort, you could see they were a great company to deal with.

[@lizzegerius9642]

Totally agree James looks so chilled and comfy in his consort.. only problem there is that used vans are very rare with them. And the new ones would be well over budget

[@almaknack9543]

😂

[@suemommie]

Eh, I would rather spend the extra upfront than trying to retrofit. Sometimes it’s problematic, takes longer and can cost as much or more. I liked the black van the best. If it was taken care of properly, then the engine is already ‘broken in’ and with that low mileage and fairly new should still be under warranty. Or wait and find something similar with more of the options you want (or don’t want as the case may be).

[@michaelstevens9394]

Go for the used camper , with the bits already on it( 19k miles is nothing) you need to be more practical in your thinking.Take out the microwave and use the extra storage.

[@manolisgledsodakis873]

Yes, at 19,000 miles it's just run in. But, seriously, I wouldn't take any RHD vehicle to America and, by the time you've sorted out the costs of shipping it there and back, you'd be bettor off renting one over there. Just so much less hassle.

[@robertworrall7630]

ALL THE BEST IN FINDING YOUR NEW VAN FOR FUTURE TRAVELING. FROM AUS.

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Thank you Fingers crossed!

[@dfree1here]

Things are so insane here in the US, you might want to rethink your country choice at this time. Just sayin🥴

[@ChrisWitts]

Pleased you both arrived back to the UK safe and sound. Now for the future and a new van, will watch with interest to watch you purchase.

[@EllieW3000]

I live in an old motorhome, on a Renault Master chassis with the ZD30 engine. I ripped put everything, rebuilt, and even added a Hobbit wood stove. My only complaint is that I have too much space, but I have a huge garage and a guest room

[@robertmorris-m8e]

If you come to canada leave enough time to spend a few weeks in British Columbia . All four seasons are amazing with lots of free camping !Forestry campgrounds are free and in great locations .The Kootenays in the interior is full of lakes and so many waterfalls it will amaze you plus less tourists than most places .The gulf Islands are something not to be missed as is Haida Gwaii further north.Lived here for fifty years after leaving England to do some travelling and staying!

[@phillyandkeely]

This is all great info, we head to Canada BC next week so I'm gonna add these to our map pins 🥰

[@theIM2000]

Guys, like you I had a list consisting of diesel heater, garage area, good shower, cab blinds, solar panel, compressor fridge and importantly a great bed, which I got new at a great price. I won't tell you what model my van is, but you missed the chance to check it out 😁. Do your homework and don't settle for something that doesn't tick all the boxes.

[@patriciabradley2286]

Janine is right. Having a bit of a boot makes an awful lot of sense. When you live full time in the van there are comforts that make life easier, being able to take some luxury, like table and chairs to eat outside in the sun etc. We have had a motorhome for 20 years. We are really sorry that 10 years ago when we bought a new one, we didn’t take an automatic. Just didn’t think of it at the time. It’s the only regret we have.

[@alanhat5252]

automatics weren't as good 10 years ago, you probably made the right choice anyway

[@alanhat5252]

Janine usually is right

[@jansweeney1333]

Hi , is nt an automatic van higher in fuel, don’t get much miles to the gallon as apose to a geared van ? Just for my own peace of mind !🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@alanhat5252]

​@@jansweeney1333that used to be true but they've improved a lot over the years.

[@user-Tortured-soul]

Garage is a great idea,great place to keep your van tidy.❤

[@mattwoodford1820]

The microwave could be removed and sold leaving more cupboard space. An older van could leave you with more budget to add solar and batteries. The look and the cushions can be changed at a later date. Appreciate you likely have time constraints. I hope you find what you want, I'm sure the universe will help you out. That Ramen looks amazing, have to try next time I'm in wagamamas

[@simonseldom]

We've only used the microwave as a cupboard so now it is time to remove it, save weight and get more space

[@geraldreynolds9650]

Janine needs to consider that when you live in the van full time you need the space either for yourselves or for stuff you accumulate.So don't be scared of getting a slightly bigger vehicle right from the start.Also True Blue Travellers have just taken their vehicle over to Canada so they should be able to advise you.Also Travel Beans bought a motorhome in America but when they returned to Europe they actually left it in storage because they intend to return to America.They can also advise you.

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Thank you

[@HandyC]

The video hasn't finished yet but I'd highly recommend swivelling the seats round in a Motorhome and tell me you can't "lounge" in those seats.. Fixed bed at the back, garage under, along side the shower also at the back, kitchen in the middle and two bench seats in the front lounge with the front seats swivelling to make it a 6 seat table is THE winning layout IMO.. For full timing, you probably aught to look at something older and longer. I've done two years in that and it was damn near perfect size, it's only let down was longevity of the interior trim LOL Oh yea... stay away from Wetbelt engines Edit OOh Globebus is close... Swing that fix bed longways, shove the shower down the side of bed and that gives you decent garage and living space. Like that but older!! Mine was only £20k, **** paying £90k LOL Edit 2 haha Welcome to my home town at the end there ;) Don't buy new fella, you front all the depreciation. Much better bang for buck out there S/H

[@Davenmar]

Hi to you both my wife and I bought our Autotrail vline 635se last September we gave up our Motorhome for it wow best thing we ever done drives lovely and so comfortable. The expedition is in our opinion the best for your budget and you would have the comfort knowing have 3 years warranty. Also the beds are great as singles but we make it into a large double I’m 6’2 and can sleep across the van easy good luck to you both Dave and Marilyn Locke Cheltenham 😊

[@ScottishVanTrips]

The V line is great!

[@ThoseHappyDays]

That's great to hear thank you

[@lyndaburrzz9303]

@@ThoseHappyDays remember if things go wrong a 3 yr warranty is useless to you in America.

[@psling7714]

I’m sorry but at 6’2” you cannot sleep across the van easy! I have a V-Line and at 6’0” I JUST fit across the van with my feet touching.

[@ScottishVanTrips]

@@psling7714 sleep diagonally then! I do.

[@chrispitman5417]

Hi guys, really enjoy following your adventures and showing all the different experiences from rickshaw in India, walking the Camino and all the different vans. @phillyandkeely are heading out to America right now and decided not to transport their van in favour of sorting one in America, perhaps worth reaching out to them for their angle on it? Either way, I will be interested to see what you do. Don’t be disheartened by any negativity from people, at the end of the day you’re out there actually doing it and creating awesome memories!

[@colindean-xn4es]

I’d say elddis cv20 all day long, I’ve had one for two years now have a elddis cv60 and think they are brilliant vans. I’ve had a lithium battery fitted and a diesel heater which has made it epic for off grid, I’ve wild camped in my vans for 11 years and the simple tweaks I’ve done make it perfect off grid and it wasn’t too expensive I had the work done by bluefix and can’t recommend them highly enough - good luck and look forward to seeing your pick 🥳

[@paulinenolan7979]

Get as close to the West Farlia as you can and no more than 30K miles on the clock if second hand - this was your dream vehicle

[@Carpo74]

I like the used one that you guys liked. It looks like a better fit for you guys

[@paulinenolan7979]

90K miles is too high to start with - it’s well driven but at this point is timing belt brakes etc etc

[@uptowndisco2]

@@paulinenolan7979 it was 19K miles .

[@josmith1752]

Thought you were having one built the same but bigger as you took to Lapland? I thought it was on ordered?

[@ThoseHappyDays]

The one in the video is similar to the one we ordered, and had it on loan. But after taking it to the arctic and back we decided against it for full time living so got a refund

[@sharoncooper7017]

I don’t understand as they don’t allow modifications on hire vehicles as far as I’m aware ! you made quite a few!

[@ThoseHappyDays]

@sharoncooper7017 it's not a hire vehicle, it was a vehicle on loan

[@lisapenfold6830]

If you are now looking at these vans why did you order the van you took to lapland. They are so different you were so lucky to get your money back x x

[@ThoseHappyDays]

The one in the video is similar to the one we ordered, and had it on loan. But after taking it to the arctic and back we decided against it for full time living so got a refund

[@valhodgson3631]

One thing you need to think about is you get what you pay for. The last one you looked at was I felt a bit cheap and nasty. New vans always have snags and if you are out of the country you can't go back to get them fixed. Second hand has had time to sort the snags out. Watch some vlogs about the CV20's there are lots out there. Not sure the insulation is that good but it can be changed. We have a self build on a citroen relay and would say over cab storage is great for the bedding. Good luck in your hunt. Consort vans are lovely but not cheap.

[@alanhat5252]

The insulation is probably the single most difficult thing to change, everything else is built on top of it so changing it means taking out every last piece of built-in furniture & much of it won't go back in right.

[@pffyespff]

They should buy an LHD van and Nordic version, with floor heating and proper insulation from the factory.

[@traceywilliams6119]

Pleased you are making choices that are more compatible with long-term van life. Nothing like a bit of comfort for you both. I liked the black one with 20k on the clock. Happy hunting 😊

[@andrewtaylor6737]

Get a motorhome guys, all the creature comforts with space!

[@DaveGeog]

We're keen leisure van people, not van-lifers, but watching this was so relatable and our checklist is very much the same as yours :-) We have a rear lounge (Benimar) 6m Ducato campervan and love it, but you have really me made realise how blessed we are to both be able to easily sleep across the van!

[@ThoseHappyDays]

You really are!

[@user-lealea-Mase]

Happy New year my friends, nice to see you back home safely 🎉❤

[@janemsxrayspecs9843]

Good luck finding your next home. Can i just say the perfect vehicle doesn't exsist. All vehicles need maintenance, its a fact of life and the further you drive them the more ware the engine, tyres etc gets. So please don't expect to find a vehicle that will never breakdown or give you issues or youll be disappointed. You really are a lovely couple and I wish you both well. Be realistic ❤

[@jocalascione3007]

You'll not get the insulation you'll need from a British built van. You should look at proper 4 season German built vans. The Stuttgart show is on this coming weekend, might be worth a quick visit. British van build quality is pretty average. But they do have the oven and rear lounge you're wanting. I guess you learned a useful lesson on your recent trip that practicality is the most useful thing you need to be looking for

[@QB2ERS]

Insulation in our Rapido family French built PVC is very poor. German vans are said to be better but who knows...

[@jocalascione3007]

Actually I forgot Adria who do proper 4 season vans as well

[@doodlesparklecleaning]

All those vans look great. If it’s a permanent home it’s good to have space, an oven, a decent bed and shower and a heater. . They look smart too. Like the Ford red one. Freedom plus quality of life. Glad you got back ok from the arctic, you did so well on that journey. ❤❤ Just to add my husband is 6ft 2 and he wouldn’t be comfortable with a bed that short.

[@farmer6861]

Thanks for taking us along van shopping - really interesting, but some of the prices are eye-watering. I always try and budget for an extended warranty. Happy searching

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Yeah the prices can soar unfortunately

[@johnmeddows8960]

Love the insight into buying. The roof above your heads, could well be where to start, in that if you'll be off grid, and heading to America, solar panels, some good sized lithium batteries, and a pure sine wave inverter, could be needed to run air-conditioning, maybe also that illusive microwave too. Thanks for the video, and it's good to see you both returned safely.

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Thank you so much ❤

[@elelegidoriginal]

You two change vans like I change my underwear!

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Not very often then 😅🩳🌬

[@sarahbrittle1208]

Microwave is storage too. Keep your eggs, tomatoes, fruit etc in it, perfect 😁

[@Lynwen10]

The Roaming Radfords call their microwave the bread bin.

[@user-Tortured-soul]

Consorts review from friends I would trust that ❤ Just please search the reviews for any camper van that you are tempted to buy. So happy for both of you can’t wait to see your final choice x 😊

[@peterkerr3496]

The last used van you showed appears to me to be the better option. It has the awning, and the other extras. 20,000 miles on the clock means it is just been run in. Being a diesel, it should be capable of 500,000 miles at least. The new cheapo, by the time you install all the needed extras, it would certainly cost you far more than a van with the extras, but used. You would certainly be needing at least 200w solar panel, so would be swapping out the installed one, and possibly a new solar controller etc................decisions

[@lorrainemorris1151]

What I like best on your Chanel are your adventures, your photography and the food. Loved your trip through India. Please give us some adventure, even day to day life wherever you are…

[@kathydoylewoods4398]

Being in the US, you should buy here. Remember the steering wheel is on the opposite side in US, as well as the door to the cabin of home. You may find driving with the steering wheel on the opposite side, easier to drive while here. If you stay in an rv park, and you buy your home in UK, your door will be on the wrong side on your site. We have a Navion V and love it.. It would be perfect for you both . Hope you visit our state of Massachusetts.

[@deborahgood9197]

We’ve got a Spinneys CV20. We bought it without even looking at any other vans and we weren’t even planning on buying a van, we just went for a look. Anyway that was back in September 2020, we took delivery in March 2021 and 36,000 miles later safe to say we love it. There is nothing about it we would change, we love the single beds which we adapt to be virtually full size and we love being able to open the rear doors. I’ll share your video in our Facebook group, which I think your mum may be a member of! X

[@nateaisthorpe1]

I know the perfect van for you its green and has something like Morgan written on the side. Also has a new engine euro 6 compliant and has a oven

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Just caused us the most amount of heartache we've ever had haha

[@jacquelinelawrence8373]

Before you make your final decision have a look at the Chausson 550X. It is only 6m long, and also the same width as a van conversion. It is very well insulated (sadly many van conversions are not) and although campervan size is more comfortable than a van conversion. If you are full time van living it will be far more comfortable than a van conversion but just as small and manouvreable. That is probably why it has won so many awards for design. We have owned campervans and motorhomes on and off for the last 30 years from van conversions - Trigano Tribute; Possl 2Win; Swift Mondial RL to coachbuilt - Rapido 709; Autotrail 696G, Autotrail Mohican; Swift Royale and A Class - Adria Vision (hopeless storage even though an A class) and our favourite Hymer 654 which was so well built, had superb insulation including a double floor and could be used down to -15C without affecting water and waste tanks as they were between the floors. We currently have a Swift Mondial RL which is now 14 years old and has only done 23,000 miles and we love that too but it is not really good for use in cold weather even though we have a solar panel and warm air heating. Good luck in your search but I think you will be impressed if you look at the Chausson 550X. We are pensioners but if I could afford one I would have one tomorrow.

[@peasenhalljesus]

Just buy something in the USA ..they are the country of motor homes 😊

[@geralddaly3796]

Well Guys , Here we go ... For & Against... The last Van ... For ... 1, brand new 2, end lounge 3, good storage.. .. 4 , basic ..... Against .. 1 , no automatic 2, no garage door 3, it might be new but it's 3000 over budget.. 4, which is very important to you both ... Extra insulation... if it's a basic model it won't have... food for thought Don't contradict yourselves... be sure and positive on what you really want no compromises ... Best of Luck ...

[@chrischaplin9758]

I have seen two couples take a UK van to US/Canada. Both had to leave the keys with shipping company for loading/unloading. Tread the Globe had theirs broken into and ransacked. Overlanding Sophia built a partition between the cab and the living area to ensure their possessions were safe. Check their vlogs to see what they were up to against. Also don’t forget US is only 120 v electrics if you need to hook up on a campsite. I am definitely in the buy one out there team. Travel Beans managed to do it ok.

[@Lynwen10]

True Blue Travellers had no problem at all. I guess it is all about luck.

[@colinmoore7]

Hi both, if I understand correctly you are buying this with two very different missions in mind: an big American Adventure, where compactness would be an advantage, and a home, where space would be an advantage. I wonder if this is confusing the issue and clouding your judgement. If you buy the one you have set your hearts on I think you will soon find there is nowhere for your clothes and all the trappings you like to carry like jump starters and power banks. Have you considered buying a van in the US and selling it when you’re done with it? We love following you guys - thanks for your videos. And well done on Lapland - fabulous!🎅🏻✨

[@DDLovett]

Im hoping you find the van of your dreams, but for me, that new one was too basic for the money. Id prefer a used nicer one that you actually fit in the bed. Why dont you do what Travel Beans did and fly out to the states and buy a used van for the trip. Or rent one. They are so much cheaper out there. With no worries about damage on the ship and all that damn paperwork. If you breakdown in the states in a european van, how are you going to get it mended in a remote backwater garage?

[@RoseFearis-kz6lf]

Hi, when you buy a new camper if or when it has issues you have to take it back to the dealer you brought it from, also it can take months for the parts to arrive to get any work done. Same goes for a 2nd hand one however hopefully any issues have already been ironed out and it's more likely to have the added extras you require and if not then it'll be cheaper so you can afford to add them. From experience budget vans look nice but for long term living they fall apart, that's how I know the previously stated comments. Get an old one don't worry to much about what it looks like as long as the engine is good. Ha ha. If the interior breaks it's not a big deal to fix just take a few tools with you just in case. Your less likely to be bothered about trying to DIY it then you would with a newer van and it's a long way back from America just to do repairs that only your dealer with take on.

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Good advice thank you

[@strawberrygirl8572]

I was going to mention Ken & Carol (Life Is Too Short) and their comfy, cozy, practical Consort. So glad you know them and will be checking that out! I love their rig and would love to travel fulltime in a Consort. Ken & Carol are smart cookies, glad you'll talk with them about this.

[@heather333]

I agree. They are very experienced and grounded. Talk to them.

[@patti4785]

God bless us, so many negative comments, which is nasty, let them live and let live, as my irish mother used to say, if youve nothing nice to say say nothing. I absolutely love your channel, you are fabulous ❤❤🙏🙏

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Thank you ❤ we get the odd troll attack unfortunately but we just ignore them

[@hollygrinstead7252]

The vans with tables and stiff seats look about as comfy as a train 🫣

[@CAZZIEK321]

We’ve been looking for a ‘new’ van too. We’ve tackled it from the point of view of 1. Length 2. Shower and toilet 3. Can we pack everything away we want/need to take. It’s easy to walk in to a van with rose tinted spectacles and not realise you can’t pack your bedding away, chocks, spare wheel etc. Make a ‘must take’ list, then decide what you can do without if you fall in love with a particular van.

[@Haribo_UK]

Good luck guys with finding the perfect van 🎉

[@ThoseHappyDays]

Thank you

[@Moonlightdance58]

I really love the second to last one that you showed. So cute. It had 20k miles but that really isn’t much. So my vote would be either of the last two.

[@Antmadmanda]

We had a back lounge in our first van, Autocruise Rythm. It wasn’t particularly comfortable for relaxing. Also not enough storage space for us. We now have a Carthago Malibu, 6.4, panel van with a fixed back bed. Lengthways perfect for anyone over 6ft (it’s a German build, so made for taller people 😉). Loads of storage and better insulated than most British builds. We use the swivel seats for relaxing, and put our feet up on the bench opposite. The first van, a good second hand buy, taught us what we really wanted. Don’t rule out looking at any set up/model. There is so much choice out there and you are limiting your choices by only looking at back lounge set ups.

[@sherriemitchell3892]

I think you're making a mistake In shipping your then why not go to Canada and find one there? Check the prices over the internet. And then fly to Canada and check them out, rather than get one that drives on the opposite side of the road. Because now your steering wheel is not towards the middle. Oh, and you're gonna have issues, I believe?. It will be tons cheaper and when you're done, you can sell it there.

[@johnbellamy6449]

Thanks for taking us along to see the different models . when we had touring caravans when we were younger we had a Bailey and it was very good and simpler ,a bit like the new one you looked at that is affordable . see you both next week ,a very enjoyable watch .