Thoughts on the 'Fugitive' Doctor's Tardis | Doctor Who

[@marineboy1964]

It's a beautiful classic tardis It's not over complicated like Jodie's

[@CulturePhilter]

Make it a bit bigger, give it some stairs and an upper level and it would be perfect. 👌

[@marineboy1964]

No I disagree, It's small and its beautiful . Keep it plain and simple. Jodie's looks like a giant dead Upside down spider. And dont mention the colour scheme Its horrible

[@CulturePhilter]

My favorite TARDIS interior is Capaldi’s. I think having those upper levels and the space really ads a lot of filming opportunities so you don’t just get the same angles for every TARDIS scenes. So something in this new TARDIS’s style but with the space of Capaldi’s would be perfect for me.

[@phillipgreen2082]

I love the classic console room look it gets a big thumbs up from me

[@Myne1001]

@@CulturePhilter not to mention the furniture made it looked lived-in. The Doctor lives in his/her's TARDIS. Making it look kinda like a home that is in a time-travelling spaceship is best aesthetic imho

[@DoctorRedivivus]

I agree - an elegant TARDIS interior, that's aesthetically pleasing :-)

[@spiralx6249]

I suspect, as others have mentioned, that the Tardis arranges its internal space to suit the occupants. The recent Tardis interiors are bigger, because of all the people. Ruth-Doctor clearly travels on her own. And she clearly isn't a coffee table/armchair sort. So no need (yet) for any bigger space. I loved it too, for the reasons you mention. Looking forward to seeing it again. And then some more!

[@paulashe7460]

Does it?

[@definitely_notme4112]

I like this tardis alot. I think a sized up version of it could be much better for jodie than the current set.

[@CulturePhilter]

Eli Fybush - completely agree.

[@ZappaBlues]

This Tardis would suit a Doctor with no or maybe one companion. It would not suit three companions. It would have to be expanded, but I wonder if it could keep the same esthetic if it was larger.

[@CulturePhilter]

I agree it would be far too small for 3 companion. I think they could maintain the feel while enlarging it though.

[@NicVandEmZ]

Philip Hawkins in my opinion Ruth is Jenny the doctors daughter she basically a clone because she was made in machine by the doctors DNA so she could basically end up regeneration in theory it still would be same brain

[@jamesfan3010]

@@NicVandEmZ GREAT THEORY😃😀

[@spiralx6249]

@@CulturePhilter - agreed. And maybe that's when extra furniture, bookcases, stairs etc would appear.

[@MrDiddyDee]

Love this Tardis, and totally agree it wouldn't work with all those current companions, but then that's something else that doesn't work for me, two companions is enough, one is better still. That, for me, is the issue with Jodie's era, less would be more. Less characters with more to do, most are introduced then swiftly dispatched and I don't care about them because we've hardly got to know them first. Rein in some of the over the top performances, particularly Jodie's breathless take on it. Ruth's TARDIS is so much better than the current one, very stylish and understated, which also goes for 'Dr Ruth', a great performance, how I wish that she had been the first choice for a female Doctor.

[@CulturePhilter]

It’s not just the amount of companions though. That sized TARDIS doesn’t give much scope for carried camera angels and movement within the TARDIS. Keep the aesthetic but make it bigger!

[@LordZontar]

I had hoped Jodie's TARDIS interior would be the one featured in "Hell Bent" which also had that classical pattern, but this is within the ballpark of that one. Far better than any of the new series TARDIS designs, none of which I've liked.

[@ohmydinosare]

You seem to call Fugitive of the Judoon "Revenge of the Judoon" quite a few times there, sorry to be the one to point that out, but it did kind of catch my attention. Overall I really like this tardis console room, I would prefer it to have a more visible extrance into the rest of the tardis, because in all the pictures except that one of Ruthdoc there really doesn't look like there's anywhere obvious to go in there. And there's a thing that I just noticed that will bother me forever now that I've seen it, the roundels are in strips of three, then there's a shlightly wider gap, then another strip of 3 and the middle two are in line with each other instead of offset. It should ideally be -_-_-_ but instead it's --_ -_-, that's a bit of a shame. The original prop used in An Unearthly Child was in use up to and including Inferno, they introduced a new on in the Claws of Axos, which was used until Death to the Daleks, and was a fairly decent replica of the original, with roughly the same shape and most of the same type of switches in the same positions. But the rotor on the later pertwee one was very different, the one seen here is definitely based on that original time rotor. So it's hartnell through early pertwee.

[@CulturePhilter]

I know. I only noticed it once I was watching it back after uploading. 🤭 If I had notice while editing I would have put a text correction on screen.

[@davidaston5773]

I have this image of a camp American accented Judoon with a overly emotional delivery.... plus an alien who has a cold... *Can create guns to kill Cybermen but not got rid of the common cold?*.

[@the_real_drwhoroblox1935]

I feel like this could be the 14th doctor's Second TARDIS Interior, except with the console that the 5th to the 7th used.

[@CulturePhilter]

I would really love to see something inspired by this for a future Doctor.

[@the_real_drwhoroblox1935]

@@CulturePhilter yea same. Oh and plus the ideas would still work even if this was posted before the new TARDIS design for Tennant's second tenure and Gatwa was leaked. Nonetheless this comment actually aged like fine wine as I still feel like a modified Fugitive interior might fit both nonetheless.

[@Adeodatus100]

Lovely design. I wonder if the publicity around this means we might be seeing a lot more of it? Also, I'm 90% sure the police box exterior is more or less as seen in "Twice Upon A Time" - can anyone confirm?

[@CulturePhilter]

I’m fairly sure we’ll see it pop up at least once more this season. Probably in the finale.

[@nigelwalker6103]

Yes it is the same prop they used for the 1st Doctor's Tardis.

[@DoctorWhoAdventures]

It is a wonderful design for sure!! :D

[@Starfleet2269]

I like it. I like the classic but modern feel. They should really do a classic but modern TARDIS interior for the 14th Doctor

[@CulturePhilter]

I’d like it to be this style but just a bit roomier.... maybe with some split level action going on. 🙂

[@Starfleet2269]

@@CulturePhilter I agree

[@joeandrew2473]

I love this version of the Tardis.

[@popcrazyfishProductions]

tbh this might be my favorite tardis

[@CulturePhilter]

Popcrazy Fish - it is really good. I’m glad we’re getting to see it (well the design) again in the upcoming New Tears Day special.

[@DavidCase-ov5uo]

Yes I know this comment is 4 years late. The column always reminds me of a radio vacuum tube(valve) with its flat anode plate. In the 60s I went to a Dr Who exhibit in the London Science Museum and saw a mock up of the first console. The sides were protected by Perspex to keep public fingers off! I think they used a kitchen veg colander as the base of the column. I am now 70. Dave Uk.

[@CulturePhilter]

Yes a vaccine tube is a good description of the column.

[@TomLord99]

This interior is stunning

[@literallytired5469]

Is it weird for me to say that, tho this Tardis is very beautiful and it deserves to be at the top 5 best Tardis interiors; that I still prefer Capaldi. Again I like this interior, very simple and elegant, and deserves love

[@CulturePhilter]

Not weird. I completely agree. Capaldi’s is my favourite too. I have a ranking video of them somewhere in the history of this channel (made before this new one was shown)

[@DavidCase-ov5uo]

Remember how basic things like cars were in the 50s and 60s and how sleek and streamlined they are now? The Tardis’ have evolved in the same way over the years. Wonder what Darwin would have made of our evolution

[@walkerineternity2334]

I really like this TARDIS and agree that the supports are reminiscent of McGann's and Tennant's TARDIS's. The roof effect also seems to have aspects of Smith's TARDIS.

[@CulturePhilter]

It’s a nice blend of style while still feeling very ‘classic’ 🙂

[@BryanMinnix]

I think this may be my favorite Tardis control room in all of Doctor Who.

[@CulturePhilter]

What has it usurped from the top spot?

[@owenwildish331]

Philip Hawkins what's you're thoughts on the Peter Cushing Tardis 'console' rooms..?

[@CulturePhilter]

Owen Wildish - there’s not much too it. It’s just a bunch of dangling wires huge floor levers and a rocking chair. I’m not a fan.

[@DavidCase-ov5uo]

In the Cushing Tardis there was a big handle like a bicycle pump. It showed up on the console in Ecclestone’s console!

[@TheWhovinerd-1963]

I love this design, it’s so beautiful 😍 I love the fact that it is using the old tardis console and they brought back the round things on the walls, I would love to see this brought back for either Jodie or whoever the next doctor will be. This is what I would have liked Jodies tardis console design to look like because it is brilliant. My only things I would like to change about the design is to make it larger and more spacious, I would also like the roundals on the walls to be lit up to allow more lighting into the set. For example when the tardis is in standby mode the lighting of the room can be quite dark and when the tardis is being used it could be more lit up to look more alive xx

[@davidaston5773]

@Philip Hawkins The production design of Chibb's era has been exceptional hasn't it? BEAUTIFUL creations. More focused than Moffatt's era in some respects (?). I love the 'merlin's cave' feel of 13's TARDIS interior and the mysterious blue coldness of Ruth's is refreshing. One of the criticisms of 80s Doctor Who (even the modern series) is they don't have the atmosphere of the Hinchcliffe era. You know let the shades, corners and shadows be a character in itself?

[@CulturePhilter]

I’m not a fan of Jodie’s TARDIS so India say Chib’s era has had mixed results design wise. This is fantastic though.

[@davidaston5773]

​@@CulturePhilter Oh it's the 'Fortress of Solitude' feel? It's amazing how the basic design of the TARDIS console has changed dramatically but still recognisable? The one I thought was a slight misfire was 11's first one. The original TARDIS designer called it a 'dog's dinner' in DWM many years ago. Always looked like cheese to me.

[@ultrastarnexus1179]

Love the interior design overall! If I were to give one change to the interior, is a completely diffrent console design instead of hartnell console, but that's my thoughts and opinions.

[@paulashe7460]

Fantastic time for a proper TARDIS

[@raflamar4146]

As Ruth is from before Hartnell, the exterior should not be a Police Box. But the interior is beautiful, the 60s console in the middle of a modernised 60s style control room is exactly what I’d expect a Tardis to look like.

[@CulturePhilter]

Agreed about the outside.... unless she’s not from before Hartnell. They could be throwing us a red herring there

[@DavidCase-ov5uo]

The next Tardis will be configured by Microsoft. Updated every episode and each episode takes 30 min to get going.

[@CulturePhilter]

I mean, the current one looks more Apple than Microsoft to me 😄

[@edwardcatt2399]

Why the hell didn't the actual episode show off this set to the extent these publicity pictures do? It's nice. Could use maybe an extra square meter as it's _slightly_ cramped but it's basically solid.

[@CulturePhilter]

I think the size is one of the reasons they weren’t able to show it off. Getting the filming cameras I. There at these angles is much more difficult than a stills camera due to size.

[@edwardcatt2399]

Actually, that makes sense. I remember reading that the _Hell Bent_ set was _hell_ to film in and light properly. But it seems they managed, whereas this seemed to only feature mid-shots of the actresses involved... Ummm... At the risk of sounding cruel it almost defeated the point which sucks as it was such a cool set and I liked the addition of the Davies-era set buttresses to the walls...

[@MrEvers]

A Tardis for a next Doctor should depend on character & looks. For example: Imagine Tilda Swinton as the Doctor, as a more haughty version, perhaps somewhat detached, then I'd go for a more clean, clinical look, like the Ruth Tardis. If we imagine David Thewlis as the Doctor, with more warmth, but also more scatterbrained and manic, I'd like a warmer Tardis, with wooden floors and/or carpets and more colour, but also with clutter, piles of books and half-finished machines lying around.

[@CulturePhilter]

To a degree I agree. But I’m also fine with there being a generic template that gets used by multiple doctors and the personality comes from accessories to the room. Sort of like how Capaldi era added items to smith’s 2nd TARDIS.

[@TyroneBourne]

I love 💕 this console room

[@robertfeld5829]

I wish this was the TARDIS console room for Jodie; okay, maybe bigger, but still like this.

[@CulturePhilter]

Yes a bigger version of this would be great.

[@robertfeld5829]

@@CulturePhilter I am just beginning to think the junkyard appearance of the doctor's TARDIS nowadays has been done; its time to return to the good old days where the TARDIS was immaculate.

[@CulturePhilter]

Robert Feld - it wasn’t exactly junkyard in capaldi’s era (my favourite TARDIS design too)

[@robertfeld5829]

@@CulturePhilter Okay, so that was the exception. But I want a classic console back

[@martyncole537]

The original console was last seen in Pertwee’s story Inferno and I think they should return to the old style console room

[@PerryWhyte]

This looks so much better than the Jor-el Tardis.

[@CulturePhilter]

Jor-El because it’s crystals like Superman’s fortress of solitude?

[@PerryWhyte]

@@CulturePhilter That's the one.

[@phillipgreen2082]

I have to admit this Tardis is my favourite out of new who one's It's a return to classic console room but updated I agree with you that Jodie console room out of all the new ones is the worse one Each new modern doctor they have made the console room bigger than the last But just because you can does not mean you should It's just my opinion but I prefer the smaller console room Big thumbs up from south Wales

[@CulturePhilter]

I just think a bigger room gives more options for filming. Different angels, wider shots, more space for movement in the scene. It also emphasizes the ‘bigger on the inside’ infinite space more when you have stairs leading off and passageways that lead who knows where.

[@nigelwalker6103]

I really like the design. I realise they just reused parts that they had from adventures in time and space (As they did with the Clara/Me Tardis.) with a few mods but this configuration really works well. If they could keep this design and use it for Jodie after this series I would really like it.

[@CulturePhilter]

I think it’s a tad too small for a full time modern TARDIS but if they took the general style and made it a bit bigger it could really work.

[@nigelwalker6103]

@@CulturePhilter I agree its a bit small, esspecially for 4 characters but I'm hoping they will reduce the number of companions to 1 or 2.

[@CulturePhilter]

It’s not just the amount of companions though. It’s also having flexibility of filming. More angles, different levels, more creative shots, not movement in scenes. All of that is limited with a smaller space.

[@tonykillingsworth485]

Some people have questioned why does The Fugitive Doctor have a Tardis that looks like a police box. I think it's because the Doctor and the Tardis are psychically linked somehow and because the time child what's changed so much and so many times by Tecteun that the Doctor developed into a person who decided for themselves, I will not change. This attitude got transferred over to the Doctor's TARDIS so that she decided, I too will not change. Then the chameleon circuit is not really broken, but the Tardis has just become stubborn. Also I think that the first Doctor did not steal the TARDIS. Instead Clara told him which Tardis to take and he took his own, breaking it out of impound, you might say. He set his own Tardis free as if it was being held prisoner. A better question to ask would be why was the Fugitive Doctor called the Doctor. I believe that all of the Time Lords receive their real name when they look into the untempered schism, think I'm spelling this wrong. But all of the Time Lords choose the name they wish to go by actually as an alias, however their real name is there essence or who they really are. They are locked in to or have to remember to become their real name when they regenerate. The first Doctor chose the name the Doctor because that's who he was known as before. We can never know the real name of any Time Lord. We would have to be a Time Lord or the equivalent to hear it or understand it. Matt Smith may have shared his name with that big son God thing when he said take it all. All of who he is. And Jodie Whittaker may have shared her name with the matrix when she was trying to break free of The matrix. Too much stimulus, too much knowledge and even the matrix couldn't handle it. David Tennant told River Song there's only one time he could there's only one time he would tell someone his name. I think that one time was because she was a time lord and as far as he knew there were no more.

[@CulturePhilter]

Interesting theory.

[@jcrossan1351]

One of the best raids interiors imo

[@tmr4342]

Yes Pertwee's console was the original console.

[@CulturePhilter]

Ah, I see.

[@thedoctor2160]

Pertwee used the original console only in his first season. In the next seasons they recreated the console.

[@Problembeing]

Should have used this TARDIS interior since it restarted. It's a proper TARDIS console room and it's the bat one I've seen since the classic era, even though it does look seriously like its been ripped-off from Deviantart fan made TARDIS console rooms.

[@CulturePhilter]

My favorite TARDIS is actually Capaldi’s but a blend of the two would be really nice. This aesthetic but with the layout and levels of Capaldi’s.

[@donatist59]

Good video! Refreshing to see something about 13 and/or the Ruth Doctor that doesn't devolve into misogyny and "SJW" paranoia. :-)

[@TheEleventhDoctor]

So satisfying

[@allenstewart8535]

This tardis is beautiful in my opinion. If the 8th dr tardis never existed this would probably be what the we'd have for new who

[@CulturePhilter]

That’s interesting. So you think 8s Tardis was fundamental in shaping what we also got in the revival too?

[@allenstewart8535]

@@CulturePhilter definitely

[@CulturePhilter]

In what way?

[@allenstewart8535]

@@CulturePhilter in my opinion the 8th doctors kinda started the steam punk style of the new who tardis. It's less neat and futuristic than the classic tardis. The tall Column is a big change that has stuck. As well it has a more open floor plan like for example the capaldi tardis or the 1st smith tardis. If it hadn't have been made I think it would've taken alot longer for these changes to be made for the new sets.

[@paulashe7460]

50’ x 50’ as mentioned in the original description

[@paulashe7460]

Does the time rotor go round when scanning when it materialised

[@Chillmax]

Great review & I agree ;-)

[@yummytatersubliminals9651]

If Hartnell tardis had darker lights I would like it

[@shaunduffy1887]

Well I not only prefer Jo Martin's Doctor (what I have seen so far) compared to Jodi Whittaker's Doctor, I also like her TARDIS better too.

[@CulturePhilter]

I’m not sold on Jo’s Doctor just yet. And this season especially, I think we’re getting some really good stuff from Jodie.

[@shaunduffy1887]

Sorry though I have tried, I am just not a fan of Jodie Whittaker's interpretation of the Doctor. To me she lacks a certain 'presence/gravitas' that the other Doctors had (including Jo Martin's). As you say, Jo needs to be on air more before she can prove that she makes a good Doctor but I like what I see so far.

[@CulturePhilter]

Shaun Duffy - that’s fair enough. We all have Doctors we like more and ones we like less.

[@evancunningham]

I'd Say Ruth Might Return They Wouldn't Build This Big Elaborate Set Of A TARDIS If It Wasn't Gonna Be Used Again.Thus Would Cost A Good Bit So It's Not Like They Are Going To Just Use It For A Minute And Then Never Again

[@CulturePhilter]

I hope she does. It would leave a massive dangling thread if she doesn’t and would probably retroactively lessen my view of this episode.

[@evancunningham]

@@CulturePhilter Yeah Oh,Maybe Shes The Doctor From Petes World!!!! Like,The Real Doctor,Not TenToo

[@CulturePhilter]

Evan Cunningham - anything is possible I suppose

[@evancunningham]

@@CulturePhilter Yeah They Never Mentioned A Doctor On That Earth And We've Only Seen 4 Eps Dealing With That(not counting the one scene from journeys end or the dimension cannon)

[@evancunningham]

Plus,It's A Good Way For Rose To Come Back (been wanting this since Series 8)

[@Ade2bee]

I agree

[@Carwyn.Morris]

So I never did give my thoughts on it....I love it. It looks like a Tardis spaceship flight deck. I still hate Jodie's or as I've come to call it "the Bob Holness consol room". How could you stand on that set and not say "I'll have a P please Bob" They need to get rid of kingdom of the crystal thumb and get more of this on the go.

[@CulturePhilter]

Lol. I used to love Blockbusters as well and yet this never occurred to me. 😄

[@willgillies5670]

Thoughts on the new OLD school TARDIS? I want it I play Second Life. We have TARDISes. Laredo and Bear, get building.

[@peterward2275]

And Bear did. I now have this :)

[@damienkakoschke3099]

Definately better than Jodie's. Agree Jodie's is not the best (she deserved better), that one was flat & ugly. This is rather beautiful, but yes, in this time, after the modern era one's we've had, having levels is a thing.

[@CulturePhilter]

Levels just give so much more options for interesting shots. They even realised this with Jodie’s by adding the stairs in later series

[@johngurnhill8743]

I wished Jodie used this Tardis

[@CulturePhilter]

This. It a bit bigger with stairs onto an upper level like Capaldi’s

[@johngurnhill8743]

@@CulturePhilter Imagine if she used it in the next season?

[@activatehalo7763]

Look how uneven and unsymmetrical he roundels are... The set, while great, looks rushed. It is a little cramped looking also but oh well at least it isn't the dark crystal nightmare of 13's.

[@CulturePhilter]

I hadn’t noticed the unsymmetrical nature of roundels

[@Carwyn.Morris]

@@CulturePhilter So they aren't really uneven, what it looks like they've done is taken the smaller 4 walls they had and put them together in pairs to make to larger walls. At a guess I'd say they were left overs from the closed Experience in Cardiff bay.

[@MiqelDotCom]

13's TARDIS interior reminds me of one of those Himalayan salt crystal lamps. 🙄

[@nathanthomas5133]

I’m sure they re-used & adapted existing walls, but I think it’s also a design feature , they seem to add depth & draw you in as the roundels get smaller & closer together the further away they are

[@CulturePhilter]

Carwyn Morris - yes, I can see it now you’ve mentioned it. A wider gap between the middle two rows.

[@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2]

Type 43 tardis.

[@paulflint6254]

Could Ruth be the Valeyard? Technically then she can still be the Doctor.

[@NicVandEmZ]

DOCTORWHO ISGR8 Philip Hawkins in my opinion Ruth is Jenny the doctors daughter she basically a clone because she was made in machine by the doctors DNA so she could basically end up regeneration in theory it still would be same brain they both know how to fight and use weapons

[@CulturePhilter]

I mean, anything is possible but I don’t see it personally.

[@Apollo-684]

'Revenge of the judoon'

[@michaelday3187]

Looks nothing like the 8th doctors console room that was a gothic masterpiece

[@CulturePhilter]

When did I say 8ths? 🤔

[@CulturePhilter]

ThirdTechGuy - oh right. I just meant the concept of having rip type things arch up and into the roof above TARDIS. There have been different styles of it - 8ths steampunk girders, 9/10th coral, 11s crystal.

[@NicVandEmZ]

Philip Hawkins DOCTORWHO ISGR8 Philip Hawkins in my opinion Ruth is Jenny the doctors daughter she basically a clone because she was made in machine by the doctors DNA so she could basically end up regeneration in theory it still would be same brain they both know how to fight and use weapons

[@MajikButton]

why would the fugitive doctor have a tardis if it was the first doctor who stole it at first?

[@CulturePhilter]

Well she’s a time-lord so can absolutely have *A* TARDIS before Hartnell. Now it looking like a police box is a bit more of an issue….

[@blackwoodrichmore4531]

The Whoopi Goldberg clone Doctor in the original clone tardis.

[@vanimapermai]

I don't like it If the hartnal TARDIS is the default desktop witch we know it is thanks to hellbent And the fugitive doctor is ment to be before will hartnal Then it goes fugitive desktop default desktop then going back to using skins It doesn't make sense It would make more sense for her to be between to of the astablished doctors

[@CulturePhilter]

Hartnell TARDIS is default for Type 40. Maybe Ruth’s isn’t a Type 40, and therefore not really the same TARDIS at all.

[@vanimapermai]

@@CulturePhilter good point there are also a theory going round saying the fugitive doctor is from an alternative timeline Or paralel universe Wich could explain it

[@DavidCase-ov5uo]

What model number was Peter Butterworths Tardis? Also, the Master’s?