Thoughts on Timo boll ALC, Viscaria, Zhang jike ALC, Lin Gaoyuan ALC

  Рет қаралды 38,015

Hoang Vu

Hoang Vu

3 жыл бұрын

Timo boll ALC
Viscaria
Zhang jike ALC
Lin Gaoyuan ALC

Пікірлер: 140
@rockerkidsd
@rockerkidsd 3 жыл бұрын
having used most of these blades, I can tell you've put out a great review here mate, kudos!
@tabletenniswithcoachyoku9538
@tabletenniswithcoachyoku9538 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! It looks like you are enjoying your little blade collection! Thank you for the review! It helps out!
@h.p.734
@h.p.734 7 ай бұрын
Great video! You really covered all the bases I think. But have you tried the other blades released recently? Like the Fan Zhendong ALC or the Harimoto innerforce ALC? I'd like to know how those fit into the ranks if you've tried them.
@anhdung1459
@anhdung1459 8 ай бұрын
Very detailed 🎉 Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I”ve also have Timo Boll alc and Viscaria and love them.
@alec8ify
@alec8ify 7 ай бұрын
excellent video, have you already tested the Fan Zhendong ALC? If so, how would it compare to the others?
@azertyqwerty4528
@azertyqwerty4528 12 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for this review. All of the points you detailled here are not explained usualy. Howerver it's very usefull to know this parameter. One of the point you explain wich is very import in my opinion, is the gravity center distribution. The weith is imortant but the sensation when playing stroke is realy impacted by this . A head heavy or in oposition a hand balanced is the most important in accordance of playing style mouvement. Thanks a lot mister Hoang Vu. I receive my Zang Jike blade today and i hope i will enjoy it with Dignics 09C.
@ashishkoyande5147
@ashishkoyande5147 3 жыл бұрын
nice review my friend. very casual and straight.
@gkhang9584
@gkhang9584 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Timo Boll ALC and for a long time I didn't like the feel of it until recently when I used Dignics 05(max) for my forehand and Dignics 09c (max) for my backhand. The trick is to use Butterfly Free Chak Pro 2 as glue. Do not use any other glue as it will add more speed and take the feel away. With free chak pro 2, it is a very thin glue that will give you exceptional feel of the mentioned rubbers as they incorporate the spring sponge as a catapult effect already. With any other rubber I'd recommend Butterfly Free Chak Pro or Free Chak. I have used many other blades like Garaydia ZLC, Nittaku Septear, Donic Waldner blades, Stiga Banda etc etc.
@jstiga7360
@jstiga7360 2 жыл бұрын
Great review.Thx.
@antoinenijhuis450
@antoinenijhuis450 Жыл бұрын
Is Zhang Jike ALC very compatible with boosted hurricane rubbers? I am considering getting this blade now. I am using H3 Neo on forehand.
@PINYO_B2
@PINYO_B2 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review.
@carvingtheway
@carvingtheway 2 сағат бұрын
Awesome... I always do d same thing with my blades😅
@vuhuudai2581
@vuhuudai2581 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review 👍👍👍
@nguyenanhquynh7322
@nguyenanhquynh7322 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for excellent review! Just a question: is Viscaria's sweet spot smaller than the rest? If you can rank these in term of sweet spot, what will that be?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr Жыл бұрын
They might be pretty similar in terms of sweet spot. If I really have to rank, probably ZJK/Timo > Vis/LGY
@PraisePrayPeace
@PraisePrayPeace 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review! Watched the whole thing! May I ask, Are the grips of the Zhang Jike ALC fl and the Zhang Jike ZLC fl the same?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are the same
@PraisePrayPeace
@PraisePrayPeace 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u!!!
@vishalwadhwa7320
@vishalwadhwa7320 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Very well explained and I totally agree with the way you described. I still think that ZJ ALC has more control than LG ALC.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. ZJ has the best feeling, but the speed is faster. When I try to block, LGY lands on the table more, and the short push is easier since the ball doesn't bounce far. that's why I gave an edge to LGY. However, the ball is more likely to go under the net when you block, whereas with the other blades, the ball will be more likely to go off the table
@WE-vd8ux
@WE-vd8ux 2 жыл бұрын
Would you also recommend the zhang jike for fast forehand one shot topspin winners or is the launch angle too high due to the softness? Currently playing with a Timo Boll Spirit (96g) but looking for a lighter alternative which plays similar as tbs will not be sold anymore.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
Don't think the launch angle will be an issue, it will just take time to get used to it. The all Japan 2022 men single champion Shunsuke Togami is also using ZJK ALC as well. He has a killer forehand ;)
@gabyode2823
@gabyode2823 2 жыл бұрын
Hi !! Great video !! I'm an intermediate player and I would take an ALC outer blade from Butterfly. I used to use Treiber CI blade, but I would like to change to see difference. Which blade would have the best control in the short game, and be the best on serve ? Which one you advise me ?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
Best control i would say is LGY ALC. ZJK ALC does have a softer feel, but the bounce/speed is higher, which is why i give the edge to LGY. LGY will give you an impression that this blade is hard, but it's actually quite easy to control and not that hard at all, and due to the slower speed, the short game is quite easy.
@xujinzhang5738
@xujinzhang5738 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Lin Gaoyuan ALC, Viscaria, and I have played my friend's Timo Boll ALC. I can tell the Control of LGY ALC noticeably better than my Viscaria especially when you hit hard. When you hit hard, Viscaria will generate more power (The kicker that you mentioned roughly?) but with less feeling, Lin Gaoyuan ALC has less power when you hit hard but it makes it much easier for the ball to land on the table. Also LGY ALC has noticeably better "feel" when I hit hard, which Viscaria does not. I also like Timo Boll ALC, when I hit hard I somehow feel like it has more feeling than the Viscaria. My LGY ALC is code "T", My Viscaria is code "S", and my friends Timo Boll ALS is code "U". For my LGY ALC I use MXP backhand and hurricane 3 blue sponge on forehand. I particular like its backhand, its forhand lacks power but is very forgiving though.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you, but one thing I don't like about LGY is you have to do the "active" block, or else the ball will be more likely to go to the net, whereas with Vis, you can feel the bounce back from the blade. Both my Vis and LGY are code "T"
@xujinzhang5738
@xujinzhang5738 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr I was using 5-ply/7-ply/Innerforce Layer ALC, and I felt my switch to LGY ALC very comfortable from Stiga CL. However, even today I cannot play well with Viscaria, I can play with it but after some time I'll lost the feeling the consistency. BTW my LGY ALC is 86.5 gram, I think it's perfect feeling.
@Bohmati
@Bohmati 2 жыл бұрын
Hai I'm using viscaria FL right now it's worth it to change for timo bill Alc?
@dmitrikonnov922
@dmitrikonnov922 3 жыл бұрын
Just wonder, whether somebody has used both Timo Boll ALC and Timo Boll ZLC? Is the latter one faster than the former? Does it really have a bigger sweet spot? Cuz I always thought ZLC-Blades should be faster, however the official butterfly website says that the TB ZLC had a lower reaction property which seems to be a nonsense to me.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
I actually do have Timo Boll ZLC :) However, I bought it a long time ago, like a really long time ago, back when they still use the old butterfly logo. And Butterfly might have tweaked the formula a little from time to time. ZLC is generally faster so I'm not sure about the rating on the website. As for the sweet spot, it's around the same. The only blade with a larger sweet spot is the Super ZLC blade.
@antoinenijhuis450
@antoinenijhuis450 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I am contemplating between the Viscaria, Zhang Jike ALC and LG ALC. I am using nittaku violin right now. It feels very very nice, but I feel like I am ready for a faster blade. I also have a Rosewood VII, but I don't like it so much. I prefer looping/opening from both sides. I like putting spin on serves. I am looking for a faster blade than my current one, which one would you recommend? (I'm 24 year old if that matters, played for 6 years). I am still developin technique, so I might not use it all the time yet, but I wanna find a "final blade" that I won't have to upgrade again. Do you have a reccomendation or a personal preference?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
I played with Nittaku Acoustic (Mima Ito's blade )before. It's actually not that slow, it's quick soft and bouncy. The overall feeling is fantastic, the control is also much better than any of the blade mentioned above. But I do like a blade that is slightly harder than my Nittaku, i think it is a little more direct with harder blade. I assume Acoustic is pretty close to Violin ? Among the above blade, ZJK alc is the closest one in terms of feeling, to the Nittaku blade i have, and is slightly faster. I think LGY might be slower than Nittaku's one, although the Nittaku is softer so it stays on the blade longer, whereas LGY will leave the blade faster, but i think it's slower overall since the Nittaku one is bouncier.
@antoinenijhuis450
@antoinenijhuis450 2 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr Thank you for your elaborate response! This video helps a lot for me in deciding what blade to purchase! I am leaning toward ZJK ALC or Viscaria at the moment. My friend picked up LGY and said it was a bit too "slow" for him, but it offers very nice control. I like the Nittaku Violin feel, it is a bit slower than Nittaku Acoustic I believe. You suggest that ZJK ALC has a similar feel and is quite "soft". What do you mean exactly by "soft" and "bouncy"? Perhaps this is related to the trajetory of the ball? My Rosewood 7 has quite a flat trajectory when looping. I heard that my Stiga Rosewood NCT VII is also made of softer wood and is quite thick (6.9mm), is this correct? I don't like this blade so much, it feels more suited for blocking because the dwelltime is too short for me. Maybe it just means my technique isn't there yet, but that is my main question for you. Are these composite blades different in feel to a Rosewood 7? Is it easier to loop through backspin for instance with ZJK ALC/Viscaria? Or can a rosewood 7 be compared to fast carbon blades in terms of feel and speed? Also I currently play with Tensor rubbers, are they more suited for ZJK ALC or Viscaria? Thx so much for your time!
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoinenijhuis450 By "soft" I mean the dwell time, it stays on the blade longer. As for "bouncy", Just imagine a trampoline, stay on the surface longer, then shoot out the ball. But not all soft blades are bouncy, I guess it has something to do with their glue job that makes the blade bouncy. I have not played with Stiga Rosewood so I cannot compare them, sorry. Both ZJK and Vis are great choices. I like the overall feeling of Vis better, although I wish the outer layer of Vis could be a little softer. For me personally, I think it's easier to pair rubbers with ZJK. Since Vis is a little harder for me, I want to pair it with something softer on the backhand, but seems like rubbers are getting harder and harder nowadays.
@antoinenijhuis450
@antoinenijhuis450 2 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr Would you say that ZJK Alc is an excellent blade for looping , or there better options? Or is ZJK ALC more suited for hitting/blocking?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
@@antoinenijhuis450 It is exellent for looping
@deep7496
@deep7496 2 жыл бұрын
Great reviews and very informative. Just quick question I currently use Mizutani ZLC with D09C and D80 and I’m considering trying LIn Gaoyuan ALC how would this compare to Mizutani ZLC?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
I did try Mizutani ZLC from my friend for a little bit, however, it was with different rubbers than what I was currently using. ZLC and ALC are quite different, ZLC is definitely more bouncy, so speed-wise Mizutani wins out. Mizutani's outer pile is definitely softer. LGY gives you a feeling that you thought the blade is a little harder, but actually, the blade is quite easy to control. I think they are trying to keep the backhand of Viscaria with that "hard" feeling. I would say these two blades are much more different compared to the other blades I have mentioned above.
@deep7496
@deep7496 2 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr my thoughts also. MJ is Limba outer while LGY is Koto but the kiri core in LGY is softer than ayous in MJ. I previously used Apolonia and have used Harimoto ALC after using Apolonia for 2 years. Harimoto was so well controlled but downfall for me was speed. It lacked the zip of Apolonia. Then I got the MJ and it’s fast but very well controlled and noticed after trying MJ and HM how unstable Apolonia is in terms of blocking. Blocking with MJ and HM was almost automatic. Ideally I’m hoping LGY is inbetween MJ and Apolonia in terms of speed with the control of HM. What are your thoughts before I commit on getting one.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
@@deep7496 I have not used Apolonia before, but even then I wouldn't say LGY speed is in between MJ and Apolonia. If you're not happy with Harimoto's speed then you probably won't with LGY either. Seems like you like ZLC better than ALC. I would say try out the innerforce ZLC series instead. But ultimately it's up to you and your capital :)
@GatoGordoism
@GatoGordoism 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. What rubbers do you have on Lin Gaoyuan ALC?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
In the video, on my LGY I have Hurricane3 Provincial Blue for the forehand and Nittaku Fastarc C1 for the backhand. I am currently using Viscaria, with Nittaku PK50 on the forehand and Dignics05 on the backhand.
@darrenlee929
@darrenlee929 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr how does pk50 play on LGY? my boy plays pk50 on stiga 90. Its very good in every area, only lacking area is the speed/power.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrenlee929 pk50 on LGY might be little slow, i have it on Viscaria and is speed is almost the same as Hurricane3 with 2 layer of booster. Pk50 feels softer, very good control and feel which i like, suit well with hard outer blade like Viscaria.
@HumbleBearcat
@HumbleBearcat 2 жыл бұрын
Have you played with Timo Boll Spirit before? I wonder how does it compare to these 4? It is one of the oldest 5+2 ALC blades and now it's like 30% cheaper. I know Timo Boll and Michael Maze and even Ma Long used to play that racket.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry i have not. But i heard a lot of people compare it to LGY ALC
@moltasbergomlarsson5367
@moltasbergomlarsson5367 2 ай бұрын
Witch of Timo boll alc or Viscaria can you produce most spin with?
@mathematechxblackboard1942
@mathematechxblackboard1942 3 жыл бұрын
Please compare H3 Neo Provincial to Dignics 09C. Great review of the blades. Now I know what to buy next. ;)
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind comment, once I have enough budget for the Dignics I would, until then 🥲
@xujinzhang5738
@xujinzhang5738 3 жыл бұрын
H3 Neo Provincial with Haifu seamoon is nice but it's too expensive unless you play it intensively like more than 10 hours per week. Honestly I think the orange sponge H3 is not surprisingly great compared to Dignics 09C, however that's the best budge you can get if you want to use it with boost oil. My personal opinion is that If you use Hurricane 3 only the Blue Sponge is truely amazing most because its ability to place short so nicely as well as it's able to "Absort spin" of the oppentent, which is really amazing, also the blue sponge is able to loop some very "strange arc" which sometime unexpected. The orange sponge with oil boost IMO doesn't have such "abort spin" ability and it's "ARC" is not as strange as the blue sponge. Most importantly, I notice the control of the blue sponge is soooooo much better than the orange sponge especially in the short game and top-spin looping and defensing (absort spin defense). If you're not addicted to hurricane and don't want to buy the expensive blue sponge (If you boost blue sponge, there's might be "Bubble" damage to the sponge, so it's really expensive.) I would suggest you try Dignics 09C or tenergy 05 Hard more than the orange sponge hurricane with boost oil.
@laturadipapadiraledeubelbe8661
@laturadipapadiraledeubelbe8661 2 жыл бұрын
Try rakza z, its a great and cheaper alternative of dignic09c
@cubekz87
@cubekz87 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You ! 😊
@tchiem1803
@tchiem1803 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I’ve been playing for 3 years now and I’m intermediate attacker. Which one of those should I buy?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
There is no right or wrong answer here, always try them out first. The classic choice would be Viscaria, the safe choice would be LinALC or ZhangALC as they are easier to control and still offer high speed. After that, you can try to see what you like/don't like from them and get a different blade then.
@tchiem1803
@tchiem1803 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr ok thanks! I think I’m going to try the Zhang Jike alc
@juliuscaesar5001
@juliuscaesar5001 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Brother ,you seem to have a good experience using table tennis blades ,i am thinking about buying my first blade ,my style is attack and i dont like getting away from the table alot , I am gonna buy a off+ Blade, so what kind of rubber do you recommend ,thanks
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone has their own likings, and different rubbers might suit better with a different blade, normal pairings are hard blade + soft rubber, soft blade + hard rubber. For starter, I think wood blade is good, like the Stiga clipper wood, Nittaku acoustic, etc... Wood blades are easier to pair with rubbers. As for what rubber, just pick whatever you like, then based on your game, find what you are missing, for example, if you want more control, then maybe you can buy a softer blade ? or softer rubber? something like that. Good luck !!!
@juliuscaesar5001
@juliuscaesar5001 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr I am gonna think about the stuff you said and decide , thank you so much
@aahokama
@aahokama 3 жыл бұрын
Hey!! I use Timo Boll Spirit and T80 back/fore. It is heavier than the other rackets, it helps me to do backhand flick. Which of these is the most similar to Timo Boll Spirit?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Lin GaoYuan ALC gotta be the closet or even an upgrade. And you should ask for the blade's weight when ordering, not every blade weighs the same even though they are the same model.
@dmitrikonnov922
@dmitrikonnov922 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the weight is truly important, in the Butterfly Universe official weight means 5 gram margin (from my experience). Timo Boll ALC can easily weigh from 81 to 90 gram. The best you figure out the weight of your Timo Boll Spirit and then you try to find the blade with the same weight, then the switch will be the simplest. I'd been personally using TB Spirit for 12 years, before I picked up a TB ALC. Both rackets weigh 81,5 gram. The ALC feels a bit crispy compared to Spirit, but I can't remember how my TB Spirit felt when it was new.
@HumbleBearcat
@HumbleBearcat 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Hoang, I enjoy watching this video several times. I own a Viscaria which is the last blade that I bought after 20 blades including many Butterfly blades like, MJ ZLC & SZLC, TM ZLC, TM T5000, PC. But so far Viscaria is my favorite. I played with a friend's ZJK ALC last night and it did feel softer and slower but he had different rubbers. I also love the design of the ZJK ALC and maybe I will buy one. I would like to know about the balance, which is the most headheavy 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
to be honest, the head heavy feel is very minor. I think beside Boll, the rest are pretty even. In general, if you buy lighter blade, your blade will feel more head heavy than a heavier blade. I think my LGY is the most balance one though. If you still really want a rank, with my given blades ( please consider the individual blade differences too), i would say Boll > Vis = ZJK > LGY.
@antoinenijhuis450
@antoinenijhuis450 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried any of the Innerforce Series? Like Innerforce ZLC or Innerforce ALC? I was wondering how these match with Chinese tacky rubbers.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr Жыл бұрын
Have not played with those, only innerforces i've played with are harimoto alc and ovtcharov alc. Chinese Rubbers are really slow, would prefer non-chinese rubber on those blades to get the best out of these blades.
@antoinenijhuis450
@antoinenijhuis450 Жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr Ok thank you for this feedback! Does this also hold up for boosted Hurricane 3 Neo rubbers? Or are you talking about unboosted Chinese rubber?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr Жыл бұрын
@@antoinenijhuis450 I do boost mine, but each person boost differently. And further more, i might feeling it's too slow because i use Viscaria to compare, and i can tell the speed is decreased when playing with Harimoto/ Ovtcharov.
@mzarkasi
@mzarkasi Жыл бұрын
Do you have rubber recommendation to pair with Zhang Jike ALC? playstyle offensive, close to mid range.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr Жыл бұрын
hmm, I think ZJK can pair with a wide range of rubbers, depends on how soft/hard you want the feeling to be, If Tenergy/Dignics is too expensive, i think Fastarc p1 can be a good rubber for backhand, or DNA pro M is also good. Too many forehand rubbers to choose from, but my personal favorite is Dignics 09c and Hurricane3, heard good review in chinese forum about XIOM Omega VII China Guang but it's slightly heavier, Rakza Z is also good, but i feel like it lacks power if you go little further away from the table, but pretty good control cause the top sheet is very soft. But these forehand rubbers are more spin oriented and require your own power for speed. If you like more speedy rubber, Tenergy 05 hard, Dignics05, XIOM Omega series have pretty soft topsheet and speedy sponge which i like, more conventional pick would be MX-P/MX-P hard
@huzefatapia9483
@huzefatapia9483 10 ай бұрын
Very nice review
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 10 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@ThuanPham-rv9yi
@ThuanPham-rv9yi 2 жыл бұрын
do you think tenergy 80 are good with Zhang Jike ALC or you have other rubber recommend? i am currently using Yasaka Sweden extra with Mark V and Rakza Z for about a year now and i am a new player amerter. Thanks
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
T80 is pretty soft compared to T05, I liked it on my Viscaria a lot. Zhang Jike ALC is quite soft on the outer layer already, it's a soft bouncy feel blade. so even T05 would feel fine on that blade (for me), but T80 would definitely offer more control. These rubbers are much faster than what you currently have, so keep that in mind. Don't overly dwell on the equipment.
@ThuanPham-rv9yi
@ThuanPham-rv9yi 2 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr what about Andro Rasanter R42 with Zhang Jike ALC? or Andro Rasanter R42 on Yasake Sweden extra? I am a beginner player and try to find the best set up for me. right now the old set up i have with Yasaka sweden extra with Mark V and Rakza Z kind of slow for me. trying to find a set up that little faster and still have control set up. Thanks
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThuanPham-rv9yi I have not tried the R42 yet, I have tried the R47, I did not like it at all, it is however very fast, so I would assume that R42 should be decent in speed too. Butterfly Rozena, Xiom vega Europe are all pretty soft rubber that has good control and decent speed.
@ThuanPham-rv9yi
@ThuanPham-rv9yi 2 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr Thanks
@ThuanPham-rv9yi
@ThuanPham-rv9yi 2 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr Do you think the Yasaka Z max thickness good pair with Zhang Jike ALC or Yasaka 7? Thanks
@manhtuannguyen1035
@manhtuannguyen1035 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I’m curious if LGY ALC is top heavier? And how about TMB also? Top heavier is problem for me ;). Tk you
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
I think they all are pretty well balanced. Even timo boll alc, which is slightly head heavy, but still very manageable. The LGY ALC i have is very balanced, but might subject to the individual item. Also, if you buy heavier blade, the head heavy feel will also decrease.
@manhtuannguyen1035
@manhtuannguyen1035 2 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr Thank you so much btw how many gram your Lgy and tmb are ( including rubber) ? I’m beginner so you know ...many basic questions but i think that experience you have is so much with 4 good blades. Tks a again!
@KhoaNguyen-nx9wy
@KhoaNguyen-nx9wy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. I have a question that: I'm now using Boll ALC and it's really old 😂 so I want to buy a new ALC blade, which one would you recommend to me? I'm a forehand dominance, mainly play forehand topspin at medium distance. Sorry for my bad English 😅
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Your English is great :). You won't go wrong with any of these blades. I think Boll ALC is also a very good forehand blade. Personally, I would pick ZJK ALC if I mainly use my forehand. I think the softer outer of ZJK helps generate spin and control. Whereas for backhand, I prefer harder outer.
@KhoaNguyen-nx9wy
@KhoaNguyen-nx9wy 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr Thanks for your answer, but how about Viscaria ? I intend to get it 😄, is there much differences when I switch from Boll ALC to Viscaria ?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
@@KhoaNguyen-nx9wy You won't have any trouble switching to Vis. After all, they all have the same wood composition, the playing characteristic is the same. Depends on your level, the differences can be trivial. Some forums said Butterfly is making Vis softer than before following the trend (Softer blade/ harder rubber) So the new Vis should be easier to use than before. I'm also using Vis right now 🥳, just a very well rounded blade. Enjoy !!!
@longmarch8896
@longmarch8896 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can try the Fortino Pro.
@lionlion1371
@lionlion1371 2 жыл бұрын
Hello again, did You use Kenta Matsudaira alc? Can You compare it with viscaria or Lin Gaoyuan alc?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have not used Kenta ALC before, however, he is now using Zhang Jike ALC, as seen in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4q3qGlteLqFi6s
@XardasFromGothic
@XardasFromGothic 2 жыл бұрын
hi, kenta matsudaira is the softest alc blade with koto i've tried. it's not fast and has very good control. it is slower than tb alc, zhang jike alc, and close to tb spirit. very good and balanced blade. weight is about 85 g.
@kris9173
@kris9173 2 жыл бұрын
Can u say something about center of gravity these blades?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
I think all of them have the center of gravity toward the middle of the blade, whereas Timo Boll one is more toward the head, but not by much.
@lionlion1371
@lionlion1371 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, what can you say about maze or boll spirit?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
haven't tried either of them. But from what I've read, those two blades are quite soft. and some Chinese forums say LGY is like a small upgrade version of boll spirit, so I assume they are quite similar in feel.
@z0uLess
@z0uLess 7 ай бұрын
Thats some super expensive equipment you got there!
@Sweechai_butterfly
@Sweechai_butterfly 3 жыл бұрын
I have been using the boll alc for afew years now will i feel a big difference of speed if i change to the zhang jike alc?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, but you will feel a big difference in feel. The ball will stay on ZJK alc longer cause it's softer than Boll alc, so overall Boll alc is slightly faster.
@Sweechai_butterfly
@Sweechai_butterfly 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr is the ZJK alc similar to the tomokazu innerforce alc or is the harimoto blade slower?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sweechai_butterfly Harimoto is definitely slower, as the blade has two layers of limba before you can get to the alc. But in return, much better control and feel. I tried it once from my friend's, it's one of the best blocking blade that I've tried.
@Sweechai_butterfly
@Sweechai_butterfly 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr thx for ur help😊👍
@zhuangcorp
@zhuangcorp 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, you must have spent a fortune to buy all those
@novasky9445
@novasky9445 3 жыл бұрын
Can you review your rubbers please?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Will do, which rubber are you wanting to try out ?
@novasky9445
@novasky9445 3 жыл бұрын
Rubbers you use would suffice.
@maxlogan2658
@maxlogan2658 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, good review but you gave forgotten two of the most important factors i.e spin and power.
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your suggestion. Personally, I don't think the choice of blade will affect your spin as much as your choice of rubber. Generally, the softer outer blade will give you more control and help you generate spin. However, that doesn't mean the harder blade will generate less spin than the softer one. The technique and rubber will be more important in determining how spinny your shot can be. As for power, the definition may vary for different people. Some people think power is the speed, whereas I think power is the ability to play far away from the table. That's why I divide it up into speed and ability to play far from the table.
@ZonaDeluxeOficial
@ZonaDeluxeOficial Жыл бұрын
It was a really good review but I was waiting a little bit more about the conclusion. You didn’t even mention any conclusion about Timo Boll compared to the others and that’s the one I was looking forward to buy 🤣
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr Жыл бұрын
lol, because it's been awhile since I've played Timo Boll ALC that's why I didn't want to include it in too much as my memory is not as fresh. But based on what i've remembered, the outer of Timo is pretty similar to Vis, but the core is softer than Vis, so it has a little more "Feel". Control wise Lin > ZJK > Timo > Vis.
@thekidphi
@thekidphi 3 жыл бұрын
Xin chào, bạn mua Viscaria ở shop nào thế?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Megaspin, it's a US online store, you can try tabletennis11
@vtnguyen0611
@vtnguyen0611 3 жыл бұрын
All of these blades are ALC with Koto outer plies. They are fast blades for pro players. I prefer Limba, it helps more control as I am amateur.
@ZonaDeluxeOficial
@ZonaDeluxeOficial Жыл бұрын
I’m amateur just starting few month ago and thinking in buying the Timo Boll today 😆
@SwissBoyXD
@SwissBoyXD 3 жыл бұрын
What about freitas ? Lin or freitas?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I did not play with Freitas before, but based on the composition, Freitas is the only outer ALC with Limba outer, which probably means the blade is softer than Vis and is easier to "hold" or control the ball, my guess is the blade will feel similar to ZJK ALC
@SwissBoyXD
@SwissBoyXD 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr I am thinking about changing my DHS Long V, but dont know if lin is best pick maybe freitas bcs its softer. Btw nice video +subed ;)
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
@@SwissBoyXD Haven't gotten a chance to play the legendary Long V, I'm jealous 🥲Let me know how you like the Freitas
@duniapingpong
@duniapingpong 3 жыл бұрын
give one of you please..
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
you wish 😏😎
@sukrusnc1291
@sukrusnc1291 3 жыл бұрын
Viscaria is very expensive. İs there any alternative blade to viscaria?
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Every brand is trying to replicate Viscaria but no other blade has the same feeling to Viscaria. And Viscaria is also not for everyone, it is hard and fast, thus difficult to control. Some people prefer Limba outer for a softer, easier control. But back to your question, I don't really know any other blade that gives me the same feeling as Viscaria.
@conradfisher2376
@conradfisher2376 2 жыл бұрын
Stuor (made in China) has a very nice blade that is quite similar to Viscaria in physical characteristics and performance imho. And it only costs about $30 on Ali Express.
@Waingro808
@Waingro808 2 жыл бұрын
Timo Boll Spirit is basically the same and 50 USD cheaper
@user-qy4rc5mx6x
@user-qy4rc5mx6x 2 жыл бұрын
where's kenta matsudaira alc
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 2 жыл бұрын
kenta himselft doesn't even use his blade anymore, he uses zhang jike alc if i'm not mistaken
@ese3670
@ese3670 Жыл бұрын
Zj is the best far from the table
@TuanNguyen-xm5cs
@TuanNguyen-xm5cs 3 жыл бұрын
anh là người việt đúng không
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TuanNguyen-xm5cs
@TuanNguyen-xm5cs 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr cây nào là cây có cảm giác bóng ( độ rung ) tốt nhất hả anh
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
@@TuanNguyen-xm5cs Zhang jike ALC, because it has the softest outer. Similar to blade with Limba outer (like Nittaku Acoustic carbon). But Koto outer is still stiffer, and more direct, I like it for backhand more compared to Limba
@vuhuudai2581
@vuhuudai2581 2 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr Cám ơn!
@ese3670
@ese3670 Жыл бұрын
Bro timo boll weighs 86 grams and is the fastest
@murtadhoado
@murtadhoado 3 жыл бұрын
I want one, please send to me for a spesial gift. 😊
@HoangVu-mm2wr
@HoangVu-mm2wr 3 жыл бұрын
haha, you wish 😏
@murtadhoado
@murtadhoado 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoangVu-mm2wr wish me luck, come on man. Im from jakarta indonesia, so you can play table tennis with me..
@tj_1260
@tj_1260 2 жыл бұрын
Kk
@jchhay007
@jchhay007 2 жыл бұрын
How do you feel seeing a big “ L” before you even compete?
@lgtvsmart4078
@lgtvsmart4078 2 жыл бұрын
L sucks. Feels like i borrowed blade from Lin GY and playing. Not sure why they put L , none of the other players have their initial on their blade
@kentsitu
@kentsitu 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a big “F” on Fan Zhendong ALC, “L” is still better 😂
@tabletennistips5232
@tabletennistips5232 2 жыл бұрын
L standfor lucky
@myguitarsoul
@myguitarsoul 2 жыл бұрын
Dude! These paddles are all the same~~lol
@SaykoDenoYT
@SaykoDenoYT 2 ай бұрын
You pro people are rich as hell. If I tried to get that Zhang Jike Alc in Turkey it would cost me 20,000₺ which is 628$ with taxes
Fan Zhendong ALC Blade Review | With João Geraldo
10:26
TableTennisDaily
Рет қаралды 97 М.
[柴犬ASMR]曼玉Manyu&小白Bai 毛发护理Spa asmr
01:00
是曼玉不是鳗鱼
Рет қаралды 49 МЛН
КАКОЙ ВАШ ЛЮБИМЫЙ ЦВЕТ?😍 #game #shorts
00:17
Pray For Palestine 😢🇵🇸|
00:23
Ak Ultra
Рет қаралды 33 МЛН
Timo Boll - How I glue(complete)
26:19
Timo Boll
Рет қаралды 401 М.
张继科 Zhang Jike at his prime!
4:54
table tennis "PingSunday EmRatThich"
Рет қаралды 77 М.
перевод
6:48
Илья Ронин "RONING TEAM"
Рет қаралды 25 М.
2014 Men's World Cup Highlights: BOLL Timo vs ZHANG Jike (Semi Final)
13:05
World Table Tennis
Рет қаралды 362 М.
The ACTUAL Best Tenergy 05 Alternatives
5:23
Kush Baveja
Рет қаралды 68 М.
Super VS Super! SuperZLC VS SuperALC Comparison!
8:32
ThanksTableTennis
Рет қаралды 25 М.
[柴犬ASMR]曼玉Manyu&小白Bai 毛发护理Spa asmr
01:00
是曼玉不是鳗鱼
Рет қаралды 49 МЛН