Something Strange Happened In This Desert 70 Years Ago

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Thoughty2

Thoughty2

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@Thoughty2
@Thoughty2 2 жыл бұрын
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@robertfoertsch
@robertfoertsch 2 жыл бұрын
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@Peace.and.knowledge1
@Peace.and.knowledge1 2 жыл бұрын
Champ !
@leonvoltaire
@leonvoltaire 2 жыл бұрын
They were working with Nazi scientists in Project Paperclip, hence the cover up. The Air Force brass made a calculated error when they spun it and used the litre green men card. After grabbing more attention than one could imagine, low and behold, the weather balloon is pulled out of their arse's! The dirtiest of all these secrets, the USA and the Vatican collaborated with the Nazis, to start the 4th Reich. Proof: Operation Ratline and also through the FOIA Nazi War Criminals Disclosure Act This one is on me....
@onikai7055
@onikai7055 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that I live in Roswell lol
@jeffcook8501
@jeffcook8501 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Mandela Effect It didn't change. Everyone is just remembering it wrong.
@darrenwoolley51
@darrenwoolley51 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best channels online today... Always thought provoking and factual, most of the time I didn't even know I was interested in the given subject... Awesome
@Thomas-yr3id
@Thomas-yr3id 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, dunno what I'd do without him hes brilliant
@kingLroc
@kingLroc 2 жыл бұрын
Okay only down side to the suggestion in this video is why not let people belive its aliens ...surely that's the best cover up for goverment testing no? Why go and tell them it's wheather balloons.
@Aryan-rx9rl
@Aryan-rx9rl 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr! Know of any more channels like this one?
@walkingdeadman4208
@walkingdeadman4208 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingLroc i know, he makes jokes about it. Thats why he doesn't mention Bob lazar
@humphreyfluffy906
@humphreyfluffy906 2 жыл бұрын
I feel it has an agenda to it ?
@Timmah200
@Timmah200 2 жыл бұрын
I applaud Thoughty2 for moving through this content without any mention of the X-Files. Well done, sir.
@heidi_homsestol2728
@heidi_homsestol2728 2 жыл бұрын
What are they
@blitzmotorscooters1635
@blitzmotorscooters1635 2 жыл бұрын
@@heidi_homsestol2728 I want to believe
@heidi_homsestol2728
@heidi_homsestol2728 2 жыл бұрын
@@blitzmotorscooters1635 what
@Steve-yl6wv
@Steve-yl6wv 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ve heard anyone mention The X Files this side of 1997.
@m9078jk3
@m9078jk3 2 жыл бұрын
The X=Files basically a new incarnation of the Invaders TV program 1967 that had flying saucers in it.
@Aubreeeeeeeeeyyy
@Aubreeeeeeeeeyyy 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my grandma telling me that when she was 15 in 1965, the year she migrated from Greece to Australia and at school everyone there saw a UFO during recess and everyone in the school staff told everyone not to tell anybody. In 2021 there was a show on this in Australia.
@romerjason
@romerjason 2 жыл бұрын
Westall. Happened in Zimbabwe too as well as Miami at a much smaller scale
@kaos7181
@kaos7181 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Aussie and recall hearing such a story
@botezsimp5808
@botezsimp5808 2 жыл бұрын
There's a Netflix alien documentary that mentions this incident! That's so cool.
@zinro
@zinro 2 жыл бұрын
Westall UFO
@Tony32
@Tony32 2 жыл бұрын
I watched a doc about this called The Phenomenon. I was very impressed about how after all these years the witnesses still remember everything, they were finishing each other sentences. I was convinced the saw something.
@stevenmorillo4432
@stevenmorillo4432 2 жыл бұрын
“Hey guys, Forty2 here” 😂😂 am I the only one who still hears this? I love the videos though, keep up the great work
@drewsleepmusic8656
@drewsleepmusic8656 9 ай бұрын
Just today I realized, the intention behind the name forty2! I feel dumb.
@tomfromoz8527
@tomfromoz8527 8 ай бұрын
@@drewsleepmusic8656 42...is the answer.
@dianamayfield5615
@dianamayfield5615 7 ай бұрын
@@drewsleepmusic8656 What is the intention? I may be too slow to have caught it.
@jacks433
@jacks433 7 ай бұрын
I hear it every time it’s impossible not to
@l.palmer6747
@l.palmer6747 6 ай бұрын
I slowed this down to .25 playback speed. He is saying 42 as in the answer to everything. Funny guy.
@eclecticjon1019
@eclecticjon1019 2 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the best unbiased take on the Roswell incident I've seen. Great content Thoughty 2👍
@okamithekid9398
@okamithekid9398 2 жыл бұрын
I used to live in Roswell for about 15 years. Everything is Alien based there, the lights downtown, the McDonald’s lol. Good video! Shared it with my family thanks thoughty2!
@jetjaguar4285
@jetjaguar4285 2 жыл бұрын
I live a few hours away. Always a fun visit on UFO day there
@BABABABABANCHAN
@BABABABABANCHAN 2 жыл бұрын
like the town next to zone 51
@okamithekid9398
@okamithekid9398 2 жыл бұрын
@@BABABABABANCHAN yeah haha I did bro. Basically. Roswell New Mexico
@okamithekid9398
@okamithekid9398 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetjaguar4285 haha thanks. Small town though bro. Like 7 years ago we had like not really good food chains there lol. But we got better food places and we were gonna get a amusement park but all the old people said no bruh
@bigmike9128
@bigmike9128 2 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Roswell .
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 жыл бұрын
I actually went to the Roswell McDonald's one time, in my teenage years I believe. I found it so hilarious that it had a UFO replica on the outside of it. The kids area was actually a lot bigger than I thought it would be. Even though it was in the UFO portion of the McDonald's, I thought most of that portion was just oddly shaped wall on the inside.
@JUMALATION1
@JUMALATION1 2 жыл бұрын
I must have seen a pic of the McDonald's at some point somewhere and forgotten about it, because when I was a teen I once dreamt that I visited an identical McDonald's on the moon and ordered a Big Mac 🚀🌖🍔🍟🥤
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 жыл бұрын
@@JUMALATION1 Well, that sounds like a normal dream by my standards, but it is still interesting. I just went to that McDonald's that one time because my family would go to Capitan on occasion and Roswell is on the path to Capitan.
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 жыл бұрын
@@11AceHearts11 Can't believe it's still open. It's been 9 or 10 years since I went there.
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockBrentwood That sounds hilarious
@fumanpoo4725
@fumanpoo4725 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin was an ET...he was born with an extra testicle.
@willswalkingwest7267
@willswalkingwest7267 2 жыл бұрын
A couple points are always missed when this story is brought up. Brazell found the debris on ranch land over 70 miles from Roswell. He was days away from his home via horseback. He rode out to the ranch, being used for sheep, slept in a shed when there was a storm overnight. He heard the loud explosion during that storm. The next day he rode out to where the debris was. He didn't collect any of it just then. He went home and discussed it with his neighbors. They mentioned to him that there was a $$ reward for anyone bringing any parts or debris from a flying disc (UFO). So he went back out, another overnight trip, collected a small amount of debris and then went home, another overnight trip. Then he drove this small amount of debris to the Sheriff in Roswell. This is all important and I will say why in a moment. The sheriff called the air base and Jesse Marcel was sent out along with a government intelligence agent. They drove out to the site. They had to stop before they got there and spend the night in a shed. The next morning they showed up to the debris field. Which by the way was extensive, hundreds of yards long and hundreds of feet wide. Now, it had been many, many days since Brazell first stumbled on this debris. Years later, the Air Force threw that Project Mogul story out there to try and shut this thing down. A couple of problems with this. First, Project Mogul wasn't in place till AFTER this event. Second, Major Marcell & the intelligence agent were COMPLETELY WELL VERSED on any projects being conducted. Third, if any TOP SECRET flying device being used to detect Soviet nuclear tests had crashed and gone off the grid, most assuredly there'd of been some sort of search for it. Given that this thing was laying around in the open desert for many, many days and no one from the Roswell air base had been dispatched to look for any crashed devices, the story of ANY secret government flying devices crashing just doesn't hold water. Further, Marcel loaded as much debris as he could in his car, the intelligence guy grabbed a bunch and there was a whole field of it left behind. Marcel took the materials home before taking it to the base the next day. After he got to the base the order was given to go back out and collect the debris left behind. More days going by and no one searching. The most important points are that Marcel had full knowledge of any Top Secret projects. He had a Top Secret clearance, he was an intelligence officer and had full knowledge and understanding of all balloons, aircraft and anything they were using. His descriptions of the debris were very specific. Critics keep going to the writing on the I-Beams. But they keep overlooking the feather light foil like substance that could be folding and crunched up and then when set down it would open back up and have no creases. And the other plastic/metal type of sheets that couldn't be burned, dented with a hammer or be destroyed. The I-beams couldn't be broken, burned or destroyed. In his words, these materials were like nothing on Earth. It also has to be said, MAJOR MARCEL NEVER SAW ANY ACTUAL CRAFT OR ALIENS. Just the debris on the Foster Ranch. This story went away after it happened. Only decades later before Major Marcel passed away did he speak to Stanton Freidman about what happened. For me, Major Marcel's account is good enough. So many nutjobs and liars have spoken to would be authors and "investigators" that any credibility has been lost on this story. But if you go back to Major Marcel and his son, who handled some of the debris, and take that alone, you know it was no balloon, no Mogul or similar thing. And a final note, when the dust settled from this, Major Marcel was moved to the program that tested for Soviet detonations of nuclear devices. He was in the loop.
@W1HURI
@W1HURI 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the good read. Whatever that flying thing was, i think that storm made it crash.
@Lion_-eo4rg
@Lion_-eo4rg 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the info!
@ajelliott9923
@ajelliott9923 2 жыл бұрын
i hate when this story is told as if the "conspiracy stories" r just nonsense.
@johncurtis6815
@johncurtis6815 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job recapping the events. You summarize it perfectly. There’s no question in my mind that UFOs landed at Roswell. Marcel and his son are very believable and credible witnesses.
@mauricepowers8079
@mauricepowers8079 Жыл бұрын
I have a question about the "Debris Field"...was it just scattered over the surface? Did it create a trench or furrow when it hit?
@patriciapalmer1377
@patriciapalmer1377 2 жыл бұрын
I was a huge skeptic until I walked onto my deck midday and something bigger than a major hotel was hanging silently above the trees. I froze, started shaking uncontrollably and in that split second realized there was a vast difference between extreme fright and terror. I never want to feel that way again, never told anyone. 1985, North Atlanta, Georgia.
@antonackermann9620
@antonackermann9620 2 жыл бұрын
10/3/2015. 7:15pm. Walking home from work when I saw a bright glowing object pass silently directly overhead. Traveling roughly 30km/h and flying so low that I could have thrown a rock at it. No more believing for me afyer that. Now I know.
@cyborgchimpy
@cyborgchimpy 2 жыл бұрын
that sounds pretty terrifying
@W1HURI
@W1HURI 2 жыл бұрын
@@antonackermann9620 couldnt have been a drone no!
@4klmason
@4klmason 2 жыл бұрын
6:30 to 6:45 08/03/2016 I walking my dog through a park I saw a strange thing in the sky but it wasn’t like a star it was closer like I could touch it almost then it comes closer it is a weird shape and then is disappeared
@charlierobert3571
@charlierobert3571 2 жыл бұрын
That's the thing we need definite proof to silence all the doubters, so many people have stories which are fascinating , intriguing and mostly believable , it's hard not to believe someone who has gone through such a experience but sadly nothing will change until there's 100% proof
@ambientheat
@ambientheat 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been to Roswell back in October and visited the museum. I could have just watched this video and learned as much. Thank you for your balanced look and presentation of the events that took place there without going off the deep end on either side of the debate. Well done!
@rigajykra3159
@rigajykra3159 Жыл бұрын
Have you heard of someone called David Hawkins?
@wandamaximoff813
@wandamaximoff813 2 жыл бұрын
Love how you play and analyze every topic. You're an amazing storyteller 👌
@H3liosphan
@H3liosphan 2 жыл бұрын
Not quite every topic, didn't go into how Stanton Friedman switched from physicist to ufologist and made a fortune from keeping the conspiracy alive for the rest of his life. Just read his Wikipedia page - to this day there are several dozen top ufologists that make a mint from it, and probably don't truly believe that aliens are snooping around planet Earth (doesn't really matter), but keep the conspiracy alive just for their book sales.
@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat
@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat 2 жыл бұрын
*WeLL TrumpPimps!!!! Wut did your Mo Ron GOD, TRUMP, DO about ALL this????*
@DrethNET
@DrethNET 2 жыл бұрын
I will never cease to be amazed by Thoughty2's dedication of creating his own stock footage for these videos. Truly amazing.
@Xxtayce
@Xxtayce 2 жыл бұрын
Waitaminute... seriously??
@Xxtayce
@Xxtayce 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, FR, I'm going to need someone to confirm this one. Even the caveman video clip? Just the illustrations?
@sandersamu4655
@sandersamu4655 2 жыл бұрын
Then InfoGrapchics just copy and paste the idea for their own videos
@Xxtayce
@Xxtayce 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandersamu4655 I don't think that's the case. Very similar animation style but a lot of channels have the exact same style. No way could a channel get as big as Infographics show with pirated art from a channel as big as Thoughty2's.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 жыл бұрын
Animations are not stock footage... unless you are making some sort of joke.
@Teefs001
@Teefs001 2 жыл бұрын
The way Thoughty2 and Jack's humor work together to make such informative and hilarious videos is a true gift to YT
@michaelkaminski84
@michaelkaminski84 2 жыл бұрын
I think most people are forgetting that the whole idea of "flying saucers" is a misinterpretation. The guy was describing their movement as being like saucers skipping on the water. He was not describing the shape. But the papers printed "flying saucer" and then everyone started seeing flying saucers. But the reported "flying saucer" that sparked it all was never saucer-shaped. So you can pretty much be sure anyone describing a "flying saucer" is just the power of suggestion. The term never had a basis.
@TheEarl777
@TheEarl777 Жыл бұрын
I think the class of school kids who witnessed a craft landing near their school and went and witnessed beings from it is the most compelling story. Would be great to see Thoughty do an episode on that one.
@godlakwarrior3886
@godlakwarrior3886 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly my favourite channel on KZbin. Love what you do, 42, you're the best!
@gringoguapo
@gringoguapo 2 жыл бұрын
I still call him 42 as well, even though it's "thoughty 2"
@prabinprabin5490
@prabinprabin5490 2 жыл бұрын
@@gringoguapo why 42
@vatsal512
@vatsal512 2 жыл бұрын
@@prabinprabin5490 age
@sevenkingdomsbard
@sevenkingdomsbard 2 жыл бұрын
@@vatsal512 i dont think he's forty2
@xtianosickboy
@xtianosickboy 2 жыл бұрын
It's 42 cos of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
@mushtaqbhat1895
@mushtaqbhat1895 2 жыл бұрын
Your perspective on all the stuff out there that human history and humans have concocted through the ages is really the healthiest and least depressing that ever existed on the web and yet it can truly claim to be as impartial as any. I have never imagined what all we humans are capable of! Watching your episodes on human nature and the historical characters that you bring back to life is like visiting a cosmos of weirdness that no fiction writer has ever been able to conjure. Yet you seem to have a soft heart for their weiredness and are never deprecative even when incisive and biting in your descriptions. You are master in revealing the follies and foibles and frailities of human character that I imagine even Dickens would have appreciated. And more than that the charachters are real! A new genre of art you have created that way.
@katekrylov
@katekrylov 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that Roswell gained plenty due to that UFO obsession. Great way to revive a small town!
@jackdurden466
@jackdurden466 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a damn good way to see it! Silver lining! No pun intended…😂
@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat
@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat 2 жыл бұрын
*WeLL TrumpPimps!!!! Wut did your Mo Ron GOD, TRUMP, DO about ALL this????*
@MetalCharlo
@MetalCharlo 2 жыл бұрын
America never wastes an opportunity to monetize something
@katekrylov
@katekrylov 2 жыл бұрын
@@MetalCharlo the best and the most real things in life are for free and will always be.Otherwise, I don't see any problem with turning a buck and earnings some money for the people, feeding them, giving them some opportunities maybe. And that's exactly the case.
@jimdigitalvideo
@jimdigitalvideo Жыл бұрын
If all this turns out to be just a well-planned 'publicity stunt' by the locals to put Roswell on the map and make a fortune in tourism, then it will have to be one of the best publicity stunts in all of human history.
@venox314
@venox314 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate the great animation for these videos!
@xion1305
@xion1305 2 жыл бұрын
Seen a "did the rosswell UFO crash happen" and thoughty2 made so clicked. Woulda passed anyone else. You put solid work into researching your topics.
@jessswanger8547
@jessswanger8547 2 жыл бұрын
The reason I'm highly skeptical of Roswell being a crashed alien UFO is simply that, if an alien civilization has mastered interstellar travel, I would assume that they would probably have the whole in-flight repair thing down, too. The idea of a craft that advanced crashing just doesn't seem likely to me.
@tubehepa
@tubehepa 2 жыл бұрын
The crash was obviously intentional. The aliens found were likely very advanced robots...🙃
@thebiggianthead8364
@thebiggianthead8364 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo!!
@SoulThrashingBlackSorcery
@SoulThrashingBlackSorcery 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know the aliens didn't drop thier own ship on purpose as an experiment on us
@SvetlinDimitrov
@SvetlinDimitrov 2 жыл бұрын
Hm.. My take is that accidents or war could happen to any civilization, no matter how advanced.
@commanderjavik6369
@commanderjavik6369 2 жыл бұрын
It was actually a luxury ship they had to ditch to avoid astronomical taxes.
@seanb3516
@seanb3516 2 жыл бұрын
Well...there's probably around 100 Billion stars in the Milky Way and given a statistical likelihood of around 4 planets per star on average there are probably closer to 400 Billion planets in the Milky Way. Of course this is really all Semantics once you clear the first 50 Billion or so.
@NRSKristensen
@NRSKristensen 2 жыл бұрын
Semantics? Dubious, maybe
@jdmaine51084
@jdmaine51084 2 жыл бұрын
400 billion stars in the galaxy, I thought.
@chrisramsey6725
@chrisramsey6725 2 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the Great Filter
@microbuilder
@microbuilder 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisramsey6725 No need for the great filter idea really, the universe is so large that it could be very well populated, but still seem completely empty. Lets say advanced life was as rare as only 1 species per every 1 million galaxies, that would still mean there are 2 million forms of advanced life in the universe, but they'd be spread out unimaginably far.
@n-steam
@n-steam 2 жыл бұрын
2 in 3 stars are part of multiple-star systems, which aren't likely to have any planets. Not all singular stars have planets either. Probably still more than 50 billion planets though.
@12Ger13
@12Ger13 2 жыл бұрын
5:14 you made me burst into laughter with that one: "That's a pigeon, you prick" hahahahaha
@RuriVR
@RuriVR 2 жыл бұрын
the titter i’d produced was enough to get me to realize my sense of humor is stupid.
@fergoka
@fergoka 2 жыл бұрын
We have very different taste in humour I think...
@romanoscorgie3903
@romanoscorgie3903 2 жыл бұрын
Man this guy can carry out a story so well
@bigfoottoo2841
@bigfoottoo2841 2 жыл бұрын
I saw one last night in my backyard. It landed and a small creature got out and came up to me and asked if I knew where it could find some intelligent life forms. I told it I was an example of the most intelligent creatures on earth. It looked at me for a moment, then jumperd back in its craft and flew straight up and out into space. I assumed it was excited to get back home to tell its kind about finding such an advanced creature as I !!!
@GavinScrimgeour
@GavinScrimgeour Жыл бұрын
Just my suspicion - humans are so irrelevant. 😂
@MM-ig1iv
@MM-ig1iv Жыл бұрын
Right... and "we" still don't even know what we are.. I find that more fascinating than aliens! we are still just a theory!
@DarisT-qc1fw
@DarisT-qc1fw 2 жыл бұрын
My heart sank when for a moment I thought that thoughty2 was trying to get us into NFTs.
@TH_5094
@TH_5094 2 жыл бұрын
Purchase fart good NFT bad
@fefek1
@fefek1 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what a nft is but I keep hearing about em bru
@nerdexproject
@nerdexproject 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic that this actually is about NFTs. It's just not explicitly mentioned XD
@Samon187
@Samon187 2 жыл бұрын
Same with crypto 😅 90% of scam comments on KZbin are crypto based
@OldManPaxusYT
@OldManPaxusYT 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha me too! Isn't it an NFT site?
@javaally1203
@javaally1203 2 жыл бұрын
The cover-up was real, what they were covering up is unknown
@bolg892
@bolg892 2 жыл бұрын
Facts.
@bolg892
@bolg892 2 жыл бұрын
But deep down, I think we all know what it was. We just won't admit it because humans fear the unknown.
@diane9496
@diane9496 2 жыл бұрын
@@bolg892 bigfoot?
@tw8464
@tw8464 6 ай бұрын
The government had a secret blanket making facility out in the middle of the desert. They really really really needed to cover this up 😂
@jasongitar
@jasongitar 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome presentation of the Roswell incident! I love watching your videos Thoughty2! I have met Stanton Friedman and have been following this story for years, thanks for giving and unbiased accurate depiction of the story :)
@scottdavidson526
@scottdavidson526 Жыл бұрын
"Oh Ronald you witty bastard." 😂😂😂😂
@tompoe22p
@tompoe22p 2 жыл бұрын
I went to college in Roswell in the early 1980's (NMMI). We used to go rappelling in the abandoned missile silos in the desert, near the town. We participated in the annual streak every year. (The streak had started as a protest in 1978 as disapproval of allowing women into the military academy). I spent my first year after college in the Army national guard and my unit was in Roswell at the same base Marcel was stationed at in the 40's. lots of crazy stuff going on in Roswell in the early 80's. But 1 thing we never heard, ever, was the mention of any UFO, or aliens. not at college or in the military on the same base. I think all the UFO hype started sometime after the book "The Roswell Incident" was written in 1988. about a decade or so after that the town really started promoting the UFO stuff. Roswell has always been a fairly poor town and the UFO story gave them an avenue to get a different set of tourists to the town. Frankly it make me sad when I go back to visit or attend Homecoming events at the college. I have great memories from Roswell, none of them UFO or alien related.
@tw8464
@tw8464 6 ай бұрын
The real "aliens" are green $$$
@jstone247
@jstone247 2 жыл бұрын
Never expect those in authority to reveal anything truthful regarding Roswell.
@jjwhittle8873
@jjwhittle8873 2 жыл бұрын
And here, summed up in one sentence, is the problem with *all* conspiracy theories. You're taking a stance where you can never be proven wrong. Official statement admitting the incident? That's evidence of the incident. Official silence or dismissal of the incident? That's *also* evidence of the incident. People who believe in conspiracies need to ask themselves - what evidence would they actually accept as proof against the conspiracy?
@skankhunt3624
@skankhunt3624 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a secret that the government has more advanced technology then they publicly admit to for military reasons. It would be nice if we lived in a world where we could use this technology for the betterment of humanity, but we don't, so here we are.
@jrrgimli5378
@jrrgimli5378 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjwhittle8873 i completely understand what you mean, but the problem is sometimes the evidence you would accept that a conspiracy theory isn't real is either lost, destroyed, or impossible to get. For example, I could say that the evidence i would accept as proof that there weren't aliens or alien spaceships at Roswell, would be if i could read all those military documents that were mysteriously destroyed months after the Roswell incident. But since those are gone, there is no longer any evidence in existance i would accept, and it would have been impossible for me to read them at the time anyway. This is mostly hypothetical but i hope you understand what i am trying to say
@jjwhittle8873
@jjwhittle8873 2 жыл бұрын
@@skankhunt3624 And here is "problems with conspiracy theories #2". The fact that the government keep *some* secrets doesn't mean that *all* conspiracies have the same chance of being true. "I know this conspiracy is real because the government keeps secrets". So what? So they develop military gear in secret? That doesn't mean they have wildly advanced futuristic sci-fi tech that can make all our lives better. That assumption simply doesn't follow from the statement "the government keeps secrets", but almost all conspiracy theorists use it as an argument (as you just have).
@jjwhittle8873
@jjwhittle8873 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrrgimli5378 Sorry, you might honestly believe that this would be your stance, but it just isn't the case that this is all you need to take down a conspiracy. What do you want, paperwork saying "it wasn't an alien craft"?? That can be just as easily claimed to be faked or deliberately misleading. Paperwork saying "it was a weather balloon"?? You really think official paperwork of this nature is enough to take down a conspiracy theory?? You can't prove a negative. You cannot prove that aliens didn't crash at Roswell. It's logically impossible. The burden of proof is on those making the claim, not the other way around. As I say, you might believe that this is your stance, but if that were the case we would be here discussing this. All these conspiracies are built on spurious logic, mis-reported media stories, decades-later "eye witnesses" and blatant fabrication. If it was as easy as "show me some official paperwork", you wouldn't be here discussing this. If it was that easy, you wouldn't believe ANY conspiracy theory.
@7LeagueShoes
@7LeagueShoes 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the original UFO in this video that "skipped like saucers" were (supposedly) cigar-shaped. Yet after the papers reported "flying saucers", people started seeing... flying saucers. Not cigars. And if you look at descriptions of aliens themselves, as told by people who claim to have seen them, the forms the aliens take pretty much lag right behind how they're depicted as in popular movies of the times. But I'm sure that's completely unrelated.
@BannedByMe
@BannedByMe 2 жыл бұрын
NSA (No Such Agency) didn't existed for 30 years and it was reddiculed the same as aliens. But then it came out to be not a conspiracy theory after all. I personally belive that one must be very selfish and proud to believe that we are the only living beings in our galaxy. We have evolved and developed most of our technology in 200 years time. Just imagine a civilization that has been around let's say 1000 maybe 2000 years more than us.
@Jabberwocky818
@Jabberwocky818 2 жыл бұрын
@@BannedByMe I don't think the dispute is whether or not extraterrestrial life exists, I think most people are in agreement that it does.. The question is whether or not they have actually made contact with us..
@libertycowboy2495
@libertycowboy2495 2 жыл бұрын
One caveat to that is if you see the cigar shape, and are expecting a saucer shape, its easy to assume you saw the "saucer " in profile.
@coreybristow4128
@coreybristow4128 2 жыл бұрын
Well up till the roswell incident aliens wernt depicted as little green men in movies the movies were inspired by the stories they heard
@damnd6277
@damnd6277 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jabberwocky818 well most people are not in agreement with that because their has never been any proof
@somerandomfella
@somerandomfella 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking we're the only ones in this universe is like a grain of sand on the beach thinking it's the only one.
@tw8464
@tw8464 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it's even more possible than we might've previously realized, because not only is the observable universe unfathomably vast, the actual size of the universe beyond the observable universe is unfathomably unfathomably vast... this massively increases the possibility of life out there. And it also seems our understanding and perception of "reality" is extremely extremely extremely limited.
@jublywubly
@jublywubly Жыл бұрын
4:55 That story wasn't the first use of the term "flying saucer". I've read other, much earlier, UFO sightings, where they also used the same term. The claim that Kenneth Arnold's sighting was the first use of the description,"flying saucer" is something that only came about around ten to fifteen years ago. I don't know who was the first person to make the claim, but people have been copying that incorrect statement ever since. A problem with the military's claim about the Roswell crash being Project Mogul is those balloons weren't in service until much later (I don't remember exactly when). There are two other problems with their claim about the bodies being crash-test dummies. The first being that crash test dummies weren't even invented until two years after the Roswell UFO crash, in 1949. The other hole is the Roswell crash happened some time between the 1st and 4th of July in 1947, but pretty much exactly 49 years, 11 months and 3 weeks after the incident, the military released their claim about crash test dummies while also claiming they couldn't tell us about them before, due to a fifty year secrecy clause! ie. They released an apparently fifty years secrecy clause one week before the clause was due to lapse. As for their original claim of it being a crashed weather balloon. I used to own the remnants of a crashed weather balloon. The parts I found couldn't have been any newer than the '70s, due to the electrical components that were used, but they could have been older. There's no mistaking parts of a weather balloon for anything from another planet. The only components were a small circuit board, measuring about 12-15 cm square, that had really obviously made-on-earth, off the shelf components and a piece of old rubber balloon. The military have just piled lies upon lies about what really happened with the Roswell UFO crash. What ever it was, it wasn't a weather balloon, it wasn't a Project Mogul balloon and there were no crash test dummies involved.
@alwallace4538
@alwallace4538 2 жыл бұрын
I'm of two minds. One, I was stationed at RAF Bentwaters shortly after your Roswell, the Rendelsham Forest incident. I trust what my commander and the SPs claim they saw. On the other hand I know people in DARPA and they can't say what they're working on, but "you'll see it in twenty years." Anyway, great episode.
@egrogan6482
@egrogan6482 2 жыл бұрын
FWIW, I once knew Jacques Valle (world's top authority on UFOs he works for various governments investigating UFO incidents). He says he believes Rendlesham is one of the actual real UFO events.
@mrurchu4812
@mrurchu4812 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it did happen, I saw it with my own eyes! I was in that spacecraft, still got a scar on my knee from the crash. I even go to therapy for the PTSD.
@RayGamingChannel10
@RayGamingChannel10 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Scottocaster6668
@Scottocaster6668 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God you were wearing your seatbelt and the airbag weather balloon was deployed. Good luck to you sir, thanks for sharing!
@rayanaltowayan9558
@rayanaltowayan9558 2 жыл бұрын
@@Scottocaster6668 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@tensaibr
@tensaibr 2 жыл бұрын
@MrUrchu Yeah, sorry for that. I was on the way to Tau Ceti but took the wrong exit. Became nervous and took the wrong exit again, all suddenly I was at Sol 3 and that's where I bumped onto your spacecraft. I contacted the stellar emergency center but they replied the Sol system to be too remote. So they ended up contacting the Sol 3 natives. Sorry for the mess.
@rayanaltowayan9558
@rayanaltowayan9558 2 жыл бұрын
You might want to go to a psychiatrist for all that crack you've been taking too!
@davidlancaster6941
@davidlancaster6941 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Thoughty2! Appreciate the lack of scepticism. Your humor is appreciated. Good graphics. Thanks bro.
@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat
@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat 2 жыл бұрын
*WeLL TrumpPimps!!!! Wut did your Mo Ron GOD, TRUMP, DO about ALL this????*
@Carpenters_Canvas
@Carpenters_Canvas 2 жыл бұрын
im proud of you man i been watching you for a long time , basically the beginning!! i knew you would explode, you deserve it
@olawunmidaniel8845
@olawunmidaniel8845 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed by your videos, very creative and still very enlightening and educational. Brilliant!!!!. This is one of my favourite KZbin channels yet. I'd love to see u make a video on cryptids like mermaids
@tonyh2181
@tonyh2181 2 жыл бұрын
We used to drive to Roswell from Alamogordo to go drag race cars. I saw a lot crazier things in the sky on the way to Roswell than I saw while I was in Roswell. The New Mexico sky at night is insane.
@Heinz_Stresseinheimer
@Heinz_Stresseinheimer 2 жыл бұрын
True that. Where do you drags cars out here, just on the streets or that raceway?
@Dr0p0fahat
@Dr0p0fahat 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, none of the "alien body" stories were mentioned until Stanton Friedman started interviewing people many years later. Memories being what they are, it's very plausible that dates/years could get confused, especially since it wasn't a big deal at the time. Friedman effectively "created" the story by piecing together things that various people told him. Project Mogul exactly fits what Mac Brazel saw.(Right down to the flowery tape that was used because it was laying around.) Everything else was "remembered" years later. It's not even a close call, it was definitely Mogul.
@MilliardoMK
@MilliardoMK 2 жыл бұрын
Nice try, Klaatu.
@shannonbayley3684
@shannonbayley3684 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm nope, you're missing sooo much here. Just dig a little deeper Mulder.
@CronoBJS
@CronoBJS 2 жыл бұрын
Many of the military personnel had oaths and NDAs to not speak about the incident. We got many deathbed confessions of what actually happened. One of my favorite witness that experienced something but wasn’t directly part of it was Lt. Corso. There are many more people who seen something and know something. Just gotta do research because “they” definitely don’t want you to know
@gringoguapo
@gringoguapo 2 жыл бұрын
@@CronoBJS I love Lt Corsos book, the day after roswell
@williameldridge9382
@williameldridge9382 2 жыл бұрын
@@CronoBJS do you honestly and genuinely believe that the US government would be able to keep aliens hidden from us for going on 80 years? You are absolutely delusional. They couldn't even hide the doings of Wateragte, yet you want them to hide extraterrestrial beings that would have a technological prowess that we can't even begin to imagine? No, everything lines up PERFECTLY with the official explanation.
@jbear3562
@jbear3562 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Lomas. I don't know what research you have done in the Post WW2 era, but I think it may be worth your while. As the Allied Military entered central Europe at the end of WW2 they found that Germany and her allies were working more than a hundred experimental airborne weapons including guided missiles and manned craft. Many of those experiments were bundled up and shipped to White Sands proving grounds to be reverse engineered. While some of those experiments have been widely publicized others have not. I firmly believe that an alien craft did crash near Roswell, I but it's origin was much more likely to be Germany or even Japan, not some far off planet. As for the "Alien" bodies? In the words of Tom Wolfe: "They were called Test Pilots... And no one knew their names."
@ziyadnour
@ziyadnour 2 жыл бұрын
Great video about Roswell .. you shared all point of views and did NOT take sides . Super work
@dylanstuart2432
@dylanstuart2432 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a day off with Thoughty2 and Mr Ballen!! Im lovin it
@thirdlawofmotion
@thirdlawofmotion Жыл бұрын
Glad you covered this subject fairly seriously. One day things like this will be used in the court of public opinion to show how we are being manipulated.
@TrapperKeeper32
@TrapperKeeper32 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Fair analysis. One thing I saw that (if accurate) would also be relevant was that the debris was scattered across multiple acres and required something like 2-4 flatbed trailers to transport the debris to the base they took it too. If that is true, it really doesn't sound like a weather balloon of any sort.
@iniquity123
@iniquity123 2 жыл бұрын
But as you say - is it true....?
@Mona_Lisa123
@Mona_Lisa123 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm
@erwindewit4073
@erwindewit4073 2 жыл бұрын
@@iniquity123 Who knows......
@DutchGuyMike
@DutchGuyMike 2 жыл бұрын
I did see footage of police cars escorting a few large flatbed trailers carry stuff in a Roswell recording with date and everything on it (side of the road)
@warriormanmaxx8991
@warriormanmaxx8991 2 жыл бұрын
@John Schroeder - re: "...really doesn't sound like a weather ballon ...." No Kidding !! Now that your evaluation is complete, do you wish to file a lawsuit against powers that be down in Roswell ?!?
@cornishgamehen9373
@cornishgamehen9373 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you’d mentioned the public announcement made back in April 2019 (?) by a pentagon official admitting they’d acquired material of an extraterrestrial origin. It was hardly covered. Not even a mention from the mainstream. Great content as always Thoughty. Thank you.
@monkieassasin
@monkieassasin 2 жыл бұрын
I first found out about that from the New York Times. I can even probably find the article citing it.
@gringoguapo
@gringoguapo 2 жыл бұрын
@@monkieassasin can you send me a link please? I would love to read it ❤
@ellayted9522
@ellayted9522 2 жыл бұрын
@@monkieassasin Post the link plz.
@cjb444220
@cjb444220 2 жыл бұрын
@@ellayted9522 just look on KZbin type in Lue Elizondo. He's done many interviews recently. He says it on Fox news. Think the exact quote was "the US is on possession of exotic material" that's all I will say about that. He also said after leaving the uap program. "we may not be alone"
@ellayted9522
@ellayted9522 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjb444220 I'm aware of Elizondo but I don't recall him saying anything about the government being in possession of extraterrestrial material and I've watched alot of his interviews. Lemme go look anyway. Thanks a lot.👍
@jasonforrest9833
@jasonforrest9833 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughty 2 is awesome. I could listen to him talk for an eternity.
@motorway2roswell
@motorway2roswell 2 жыл бұрын
I thought for sure you were going to shoot down the UFO story, but you left it as the "?" that it truly is. Excellent reporting work!
@kruzrken
@kruzrken 2 жыл бұрын
I was four years old at the time of the Roswell crash. I couldn't read at that age, but an older cousin related the Roswell crash story to me. BUT, what evidently has been heavily redacted, is a part of the story that I have never seen again online or anywhere. He related, "A flying saucer crashed in the desert in New Mexico. There was a smaller one too about two ft. in diameter, and a farmer caught it. It started to move and he wrestled with it, but it got away." Has anyone else heard this part of the story? I sure would like to hear about it.
@bishalbhattacharjee8183
@bishalbhattacharjee8183 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting
@lesliecogan641
@lesliecogan641 9 ай бұрын
No, I haven't heard that, but I've been receiving messages in my face, that wants my focus on it. It's been over 3 years, and I just learned I was conceived 666 weeks after the crash; born in Roswell 11 weeks premature and my mother didn't know she was pregnant with me.
@ellistomago3369
@ellistomago3369 2 жыл бұрын
I currently live in Roswell. There are some UFO-themed shops for tourists, but it is nothing like Disneyland.
@soulesslemming
@soulesslemming 2 жыл бұрын
My wife’s family still lives in Roswell and we visit a few times a year, I love the people (mostly) they’re much friendlier than here in Colorado. I wish burrito express would open here lol that’s the only place I must visit when I’m there.
@shawndory5193
@shawndory5193 2 жыл бұрын
In the early 70s when I lived in Roswell, aliens weren’t talked about. That came later.
@Heinz_Stresseinheimer
@Heinz_Stresseinheimer 2 жыл бұрын
Currently live here too, definitely nothing like Disneyland at all lmao but it's still nice, I like it here
@HypnotizedAwake
@HypnotizedAwake 2 жыл бұрын
Always a treat your videos are! Thank you Thoughty2
@anastaciosoto5594
@anastaciosoto5594 2 жыл бұрын
Is it crazy that I trust this Channel more than anything else on tv love your work man please never stop
@ronb8066
@ronb8066 2 жыл бұрын
Again, a nice and well-explained video, and with the usual proper humor. Even I read a book about the Rosswell Incident, and always wondered why an advanced technological civilization would travel across the interstellar light-years, only to crash in the desert.
@bootstrapperwilson7687
@bootstrapperwilson7687 Жыл бұрын
Same reason an advanced intercontinental aircraft travels thousands of miles only to crash into trees a mile from an airport: technical breakdown.
@MysticalNerdTV
@MysticalNerdTV 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Thoughty!
@Rainer_ow
@Rainer_ow 2 жыл бұрын
2*, thoughty2
@gailwatson4927
@gailwatson4927 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Roswell in the 60s and I will never believe that story. My dad was stationed at Walker AFB in Roswell and he always told me that if I see any unusual looking aircraft that it would be an experimental aircraft.
@erikk77
@erikk77 2 жыл бұрын
Jessy Marcel Jr. wrote a book about his experience describing his father's account. The title is The Roswell Legacy: The Untold Story of the First Military Officer at the 1947 Crash Site
@nickabel8279
@nickabel8279 2 жыл бұрын
Think he was on rogans show
@askagain
@askagain 2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood and BBC can learn a thing or more from Mr. 2 here, by far the most professional amateur content creator out there, keep it up Mr. 2, you're doing a hell of a job and ....thanks for showing, i'll be watching ; )
@MrWhisperingwildly
@MrWhisperingwildly 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your open mindedness on this, and not just ridiculing the subject
@Heyheywhatcanido
@Heyheywhatcanido 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he's kept the same intro over all these years
@tw8464
@tw8464 6 ай бұрын
And he never seems to age
@Cosmically_Forsaken
@Cosmically_Forsaken 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the "ufo" crashed on the border between my grandpa's friends father's farm and another landowner. I have met the daughter of the man who owned the farm personally and eaten dinner from there. My grandpa lived there when this happened. My whole family is from there. It's a huge part of my family history, and I love trying to convince people I really think I'm an alien 😂
@CSSuser
@CSSuser 10 ай бұрын
So are you an alien?
@greenlung
@greenlung 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on pre Roswell sightings such as Aurora 1897?
@rodstarcke5423
@rodstarcke5423 Жыл бұрын
How come whenever someone gets a real good photo, video,or piece of physical evidence the first thing they do is run to the authorities ensuring that all evidence will be confiscated and lost to the public forever?
@jdssurf
@jdssurf 2 жыл бұрын
I asked my Air Force uncle before he died if they ever saw anything to lead them to believe………..he thought for awhile, then said yes………….he was a very serious realistic man.
@Dysputant
@Dysputant 2 жыл бұрын
I would say this is amazing that expansion of phones with camera and digital stabilization somehow made alien/ghost/demons/cryptic animals videos extremely rare... and mostly debunked in less than few days after release.
@HankMeyer
@HankMeyer 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they're any more rare than they were before.
@kggupta3643
@kggupta3643 2 жыл бұрын
@Saiyan in the Iron Mask they were debunked also by thunderfoot and many other proper scientific news channels it was a duck or seagull something like it.
@inyrui
@inyrui 2 жыл бұрын
@@kggupta3643 I have a hard time believing any bird was traveling as fast as the object in those videos. Granted I don't think they were aliens but I don't think it was birds. It also seems kinda ridiculous to think a science youtube channel figured out those videos when the government had hundreds of experts try to debunk them before they finally released them. Personally I'm sure the experts the government contracted proposed the bird hypothesis and it was thoroughly tested and ruled out. Unless the years and manpower they spent debunking all but those 3 videos somehow didn't think and test one of the most obvious explanations lol. Not that I trust the government but if it really was birds I'm pretty sure the government would jump at the chance to blame it on a natural occurrence rather than admit they don't know what it is
@Zool2107
@Zool2107 2 жыл бұрын
@@kggupta3643 Just think about the purpose behind the disclosures. Governments never declare or make public anything 'just because' - especially on such controversial, contentious issues - there is always some (even secret) purpose to them. Do you think the fact that some youtube investigators (who use youtube to make money) can easily find out what government/military experts, including military radar operators and fighter pilots - who are supposed to be protecting the country, by the way - have been unable to decipher for years, sheds any light on them? Do you think the aim is to make fools of themselves? Think about it a bit, even if you dismiss this whole extraterrestrial issue, just ponder the political and military motivations a bit - and you won't sit on top of every story on either side. Critical and logical thinking - worth learning.
@shaunbowen
@shaunbowen 2 жыл бұрын
It always baffles me that a supposed advanced civilisation with the technology to travel light years, generally doesn't know how to turn the damn headlights off on their crafts at night. Any reports of 'lights in the sky' immediately get disregarded by me.
@jonathansteadman7935
@jonathansteadman7935 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of Roswell witnesses were threatened with something unfortunate happening to either them or their family. Frightening civilians obviously seemed acceptable to keep them quite.
@wendigowendigone
@wendigowendigone 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't say that if I were you something bad might happen to your family👽
@fergoka
@fergoka 2 жыл бұрын
@@wendigowendigone Especially if that's being said by a Wendigo.
@DutchGuyMike
@DutchGuyMike 2 жыл бұрын
Like that school shooting a while back, the people in that area suddenly had their mortgages payed off. Coincidental, as they apparently had info that would have implicated the government/FBI/CIA.
@atvega7
@atvega7 2 жыл бұрын
Always an intriguing story. Interestingly, the sketch provided by Jesse Marcel looks an awful lot like the Horten Bros fixed wing design from the decade prior. I always felt there must a connection which would explain the secrecy of German tech making its way to US soil. Just a guess.
@hassannrah7742
@hassannrah7742 2 жыл бұрын
honestlythis guys been killing it since i watched back since 2015. that was nearly 7 years ago. 👌
@dann3r55
@dann3r55 Жыл бұрын
same! his content has been very consistent thru the years! Not many channels manage to do that.
@nautifella
@nautifella 2 жыл бұрын
One of the earliest lessons I learned about human behavior is this. _"The truth doesn't change. Lies don't stay the same."_ *SOMETHING* happened out there, we may never know exactly what.
@clickbaitcabaret8208
@clickbaitcabaret8208 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been a Roswell scoffer. The first conundrum is distance. Alpha Centauri is the closest cluster of stars to our solar system that has planets. It's about 4.3 light years from earth. 4.3 light years doesn't sound all that far, but in reality, it's really freaking far. The second conundrum is according to physics there's insurmountable obstacles in getting a mass to accelerate anywhere near the speed of light. Light is both particles & waves & travels at 186.000 miles a second. It can travel at that speed because light isn't a mass. A mass is going to be effected by gravity so can't even begin to approach the speed of light. That being the case it could take thousands of years for a space craft to get to earth from a theoretical planet that has advanced life. In practical terms, extraterrestrial visitors is nothing but magical thinking.
@blitzmotorscooters1635
@blitzmotorscooters1635 2 жыл бұрын
exactly. Unless we build Generation Ships, reaching another star is impossible -- especially at 4 lightyears. In cases where stars are closer than a lightyear, or regularly coming close to eachother, it may be more achievable.
@lillycastitatis6807
@lillycastitatis6807 2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Study more. Put briefly: Warp drives, already being developed. And light sails.
@ThisNameIsMineDude
@ThisNameIsMineDude 2 жыл бұрын
It was just swamp gas reflecting light from Venus.
@erikk77
@erikk77 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@occhamite
@occhamite 2 жыл бұрын
No. An officer who just happened to be a UFO buff got stationed at Rosewell, and suddenly, all manner of UFO's began to appear! How very convenient for him!
@jamiewaymire7599
@jamiewaymire7599 2 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your videos! Definitely food for thought every time! Kudos!
@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat
@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat 2 жыл бұрын
*WeLL TrumpPimps!!!! Wut did your Mo Ron GOD, TRUMP, DO about ALL this????*
@catlover0160
@catlover0160 2 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting, thanks 😍🇬🇬
@mikecook8712
@mikecook8712 2 жыл бұрын
Haha i actually live 2 hours from Roswell and if you gotta go to federal court, you know disability or such, thats where you go... Its a mega tourist trap today... But your still twenty miles south of the location and even then its private land and they will not allow you to look ... So yeah...
@jetjaguar4285
@jetjaguar4285 2 жыл бұрын
Alamogordo?
@mikecook8712
@mikecook8712 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetjaguar4285 i dunno live two hours away in Texas... I just know we couldn't get to the actual location
@williamcrowley788
@williamcrowley788 2 жыл бұрын
Lived in that part of New Mexico for awhile, been through Roswell many times, knew many people. In fact took my kids to the alien museum there the other week. I try to keep an open mind about these things. Still processing the tic-tac vids. The alien museum is genius, brings lots of money to the area. Personally, my little opinion is that it was a crappy cover up of crashed experimental atomic bomb detector like the museum has a display of in a passageway. The museum is well worth a visit and there are some displays that provoke thought. My kids enjoyed the McDonalds but unfortunately the play area was closed due to Covid. BTW yes I did see a ufo in New Mexico! Spherical, silvery color , high in the air. But when a cloud covered the sun it turned transparent. Then I realized I was looking at a weather balloon! If it wasn’t for the cloud I would claim an alien spacecraft perhaps. Lololol.
@srspower
@srspower 2 жыл бұрын
It's all good fun and it's great that it brings in tourism. But yes you are right they were testing a stealth fighter. Interestingly it was based on a design by the Nazis but the Nazis couldn't build it due to the need for computing power.
@solzstice
@solzstice 2 жыл бұрын
@@srspower Do you happen to have a source for this? Would love to read more
@srspower
@srspower 2 жыл бұрын
@@solzstice my grandfather told me. He worked for the rsre.
@Dark0neone
@Dark0neone 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen UFOs with my mom before. It could have been a military test but why would the military run a test during a meteor shower when they know people will be looking up? The UFOs in question were stationary, then rotated around the center between them and became stationary again. if anyone can explain that, please do.
@jakebella5683
@jakebella5683 2 жыл бұрын
Because they can Still blame it on the meteor shower. nasa, the government, the armed forces, all the rich people have been lying to us common folk for hundreds of years. All they want is our money and have us die after that. They DON’T CARE!!!!!
@ConTheDon187
@ConTheDon187 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen half a dozen ufo's and I haven't seen one in a long time. One time while I was in the woods with my school, a girl and myself decided to sleep together (hahaha) and while we were in the school's tahoe messing around we started talking about stuff and eventually we ended up just sitting there and watching the stars because it was such a clear night, and that's when I noticed a ufo darting around in the sky, pointed it out to her and she saw it and started freaking out, then the entire forest flashed and the ufo went from white to red, the forest flashed again and then it darted off into a cross shaped set of stars and she absolutely lost her shit and started crying and freaking out, I thought it was awesome. Another was the massive black triangle ufo and it flew over myself and my friends and was completely silent and had a big dome light in the center and other lights around it. Seems that the triangle UFO has been seen by tons of people, and especially where I live
@alectrotter5527
@alectrotter5527 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds familiar. The stairionary thing then spinning again. But i don't think it was about a ufo. Something to do with quantum mechanics but just in theory.
@barbarafogle3541
@barbarafogle3541 2 жыл бұрын
Would you say it looked like at least 3 lights maybe more that would rotate like in a fan pattern coming together at a central point then expanding back out to the large circular pattern again?
@Dark0neone
@Dark0neone 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakebella5683 I was asking for an explanation of the phenomenon. I already know that stuff.
@surfbreakn
@surfbreakn 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously thoughty2, it took you this long to cover this?!!!!? Well, you've always left me satisfied.
@shaunwalker7238
@shaunwalker7238 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for a real examination of the incident
@Crimin4L
@Crimin4L 2 жыл бұрын
Bob Lazar said the one time the gov had the hangers open at S4 inside Area 51, they had more then 5 alien crafts (I think 7-9 i forget the actual number) including the one he was working on. Dude predicted so many things its impossible to discredit his story.
@geigertec5921
@geigertec5921 2 жыл бұрын
A flying saucer crash landed in my home town of Cherkoya in Eastern Ukraine in 1972. I remember soldiers cordoning off the area. Me and my friend watched from the bell tower of the church as a tall black-eyed creature was pulled forcefully from a hatch and shot by the soldiers. Then several smaller similar looking creatures were removed and hacked to death with entrenchment tools.
@alasiadarthe001actual9
@alasiadarthe001actual9 2 жыл бұрын
In the words of my grand father: people are stupid “Charlie” and no matter the truth some will always believe the bullshit. Take this as you will.
@itscodester6462
@itscodester6462 2 жыл бұрын
this is facts
@alasiadarthe001actual9
@alasiadarthe001actual9 2 жыл бұрын
@rptrm82 Hence why i thought it was appropriate.
@jerickodoggo9595
@jerickodoggo9595 2 жыл бұрын
Your description of the 1950's America is the future I wished to live in and aspire to create for my children.
@alexkapinga2024
@alexkapinga2024 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughty2 you legend. Love you man.
@macktheripper7454
@macktheripper7454 2 жыл бұрын
You should look into the landing at Rawa where 62 kids saw a ufo land and 2 beings come out
@Jijiandfriends
@Jijiandfriends 2 жыл бұрын
I think amma go with the Fancy Weather Balloon explanation (Project Mogul) as it is the most plausible explanation that you need to cover up since the real reason cannot be known to the enemy. Also, the `alien bodies` are probably not real or misremembered as the literal guy who was there that was interviewed remembered the unbendable out of the world metal other than the most important one, alien bodies lol.
@Chuxgold
@Chuxgold 2 жыл бұрын
And it was the July 6 1945 nuclear test when they gained interest in us. So "yea" there probably was a lot more by 1947 around the entire continent. As the nuclear test took place in Los Alamos just a couple hundred miles from Roswell. So it figures that if one crashed or was shot down. It would have happened there.
@iniquity123
@iniquity123 2 жыл бұрын
How on "Earth did Aliens see the nuclear bomb test, react and reach Earth in 2 years ? Just to get shot down ! 🤦‍♂️ Where they just lurking in the neighbourhood ? 🤷‍♂️
@damnd6277
@damnd6277 2 жыл бұрын
@@iniquity123 they were tryna score on us early I guess
@Chuxgold
@Chuxgold 2 жыл бұрын
@@iniquity123 I don't think they ever were far off "just were unnoticeable." It's our actions that are bringing them into our line of sight. Not the other way around. And to question their science? Is like a caveman asking why we need cars today. No" things like time travel exzist. We just don't have the understanding or the responsibility to use it. And don't need too. We already will be going to be with them. "In life" or in death. They did far more than just give us a body. And here we are given the chance to fill it with a reality that can define us. Here we are born into existence. And being born into a immortal soul is all that matters. Nothing else we could do would mean anything to them. And when we detonated our first bomb? It was a message that we have reach as far as imagination will alow for. To far to be trusted with science that can travel thru time and holds the keys to this universes destruction. They already are masters of time and the future. And we are not going to be allowed to screw-up what's already been writen. We either follow it? Or go our own way. That is not in this universe. Or in any' but the one we hold, in our imagination. And is just as real as this one. "If" you lived to know reality for what it is and not for what you can make out of it. As it's all here. We did not have to create anything to be one with this reality. Only thing we had to invent was ourselves from it. "The thing they can't do for us." They could only give us the chance and a place to try. The rest is on us.
@iniquity123
@iniquity123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chuxgold space is big, real big. I doubt we'll ever meet one another..... But I still live in hope.....
@iniquity123
@iniquity123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chuxgold And, who brought "them" into line ? Every intelligent species would have and will, evolve akin to Homo Sapiens' evolution. It's going into the deep realms of Sci-fi and religion here..... We haven't ever met Aliens. Yet.
@ericrodriguez5592
@ericrodriguez5592 2 жыл бұрын
With all honesty, this was a very interesting and I think there's a lot more going on than just a "Weather Balloon".
@narwhal8113
@narwhal8113 2 жыл бұрын
I love this look lmao! You look like a cool history teacher
@D4rkW4ri0
@D4rkW4ri0 2 жыл бұрын
Ok but imagine having the job of yeeting dummies off a plane
@freakycantaloupe69
@freakycantaloupe69 2 жыл бұрын
well sounds fun if you put it that way
@H3liosphan
@H3liosphan 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, check out the very brief message at 3:23. "This effect requires GPU acceleration". Thoughty2 is either doing an 'are you paying attention' thing, or the video editor cocked it up.
@spiritof6663
@spiritof6663 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughty2 has become so infamous for offering conventional Wikipedia-style explanations for unusual events, that it's actually quite refreshing that he doesn't just parrot the government narrative, here. Well done (for once). I guess it proves that in this case, even the government explanation is too absurd for those who would normally be sympathetic to it.
@edgauthier3348
@edgauthier3348 2 жыл бұрын
I love when @Thoughty2 talks about aliens! 👽
@Laura.Gregori
@Laura.Gregori 2 жыл бұрын
Weather balloons sound like a way more reasonable and logical explanation than nonsensical aliens.
@mikkihesson3509
@mikkihesson3509 2 жыл бұрын
c'mon thoughty2. i love your videos, but you just throw a bunch of propaganda at us when it comes to *anything* with a narrative against the one they want us to believe on this kind of thing. id rather you just stick to history as we factually know it, thats what you do best. things like aliens, what our true origins are, reincarnation, stonehenge, ancient egypt, or any other supernatural topics arent something you have much experience with or any evidence on to support the things you say. (whereas evidence FOR said topics are stronger than most arguments against, especially today) your videos fall sadly short on these topics since they are WAY too large to condense into a short clip like this to try and disprove or convince anyone they are not true. presenting stuff like this with an "evidence" based argument doesnt hold water. these topics actually have *more* proof to show there is something to it than not. your arguments sound good on paper (i guess) but if you were to hold a true debate and have the other side present as well as your side then your lectures wouldnt sound as impressive. most of what we "know" is a lie and that is not taken into consideration when you are making these kinds of videos. you are taking what we are *told* as gospel, and that only works for history as we factually know it. such as telling us "hey, the color green killed ppl back in the day". thats a topic you can present with facts and not look like youre spouting out propaganda. i cant take ppl that run along these government narratives seriously.
@Zak3588
@Zak3588 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this issue he is completely wrong on. It's not his fault he's a good little 🐑 roaming the farm and not making any unwanted noise. Can't blame him thou but it's just sad how people let the main stream media warp their minds... And how easily it works
@nolacombs2465
@nolacombs2465 2 жыл бұрын
Okay I got a kick out of this, I love to study history and find out what was going on in the world throughout time. And I got into a research Journey on the period of this happening. The things that we're going on in that time AR so comical looking from a perspective of today. The race was on and everybody wants to be first in marking history of anything and the paranoia was real between countries and who knew what and who had what and how advanced anyone was. American scientist and government officials we're so paranoid especially about the Russians that they did some hilarious things trying to find out information about anyting that might be going on that they didn't know about. I remember reading a story about some scientists that took a cat and surgically implanted a listening device radio and antenna on and to this cat so they could let the cat go and it would get close enough to the Russians that they can hear the conversation that they were having and find out what they were up to. The scientist never got to pull this one off because they couldn't get the cat to go where they wanted to go and while they were trying to the cat got hit by a car. Once again they tried to get a listening on the Russians conversations they had a brilliant idea to dig a tunnel to where the Russians were located up under the facilities and listen with their new radio technology and find out what was going on. So they dug this insanely long tunnel to get to this destination and come up under it but they could not hear anything or get the radio to pick up on anything that was Audible or learn the damn thing. The stories you read are so hilarious of the science and seriousness of their desire to learn something they would do any weird crazy thing thinking it was in the name of Science and advancement. When it was in fact the craziest ideas quite comical and had nothing to do with science. Later I found out that the Russians we're getting a big kick out of the crazy Americans and their bird brain paranoia and they weren't really up to anything except trying to advance their own Society just like everyone else on the planet. But it did spark a chain reaction of events from the Russians that we're seeing the effects of today. Being an American you think I would be really pissed off about what they pulled off but I can't help but see it is quite comical reaction to action. They actually use the Americans paranoia and power of suggestion as a means to let America sabotage themselves by letting America think that they were doing the things that America thought they were doing and feeding false information with plots and twist that would get a reaction of self sabotage. Making America a victim of their own paranoia. A Russian professor did a video class explaining how this all took place that I watched and let me just shaking my head after everything I had already learned. And was the Russians actually did and how they pulled it off as a response to the Americans crazy shenanigans. I can't remember his name I will look it up and come back and post it. Learning the part America and the Russians played in the German Holocaust from the perspective of the people involved was another eye-opener. When you study history you really have to study it from the information and perspective of the other country and not your own because you're going to get information one-sided from a perspective that may not want you to know some of the details and embarrassing factors. That's why they call it history because it's his story. If you remove yourself from emotional attachment and look at it from a perspective of open mindedness not taking anybody sides and put your pride away you can really get a much better picture of what actually took place if you're being honest with yourself and not butt hurt and defensive. And when you study history of America itself and the things that they were doing the American people did not know you find some very interesting truth about our country and what people are capable of doing that you are completely unaware of in the name of science in progress. Don't always think that the bad guys are the other guys and any crime you're going to come up against is going to be from a foreign country. Do your real truth searching from a non-biased perspective. The trust people put in their government today is truly terrifying especially when you're a sovereign citizen and supposed to be one in charge. Remember the government works for youkzbin.info/www/bejne/qYKxZZZpqrOSqqM
@DutchGuyMike
@DutchGuyMike 2 жыл бұрын
Ever learnt of paragraphs? Typing it all without any spaces/areas between it is highly "boorish" and hard to follow, please rephrase the comment!
@KevinMartinez-pt5zl
@KevinMartinez-pt5zl 2 жыл бұрын
Wait wtf it says u uploaded this 1 minute ago but there’s comments 10+ hours old 🤔
@gracesgarden3560
@gracesgarden3560 2 жыл бұрын
if ur member u see the vid early I think
@diemman70
@diemman70 Жыл бұрын
“The fifties were a strange age?” I believe all of the items you listed increased ten fold including the bunny girls.
@JoelBrandonMedia
@JoelBrandonMedia Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you’re covering this topic. There is more. MUCH more. This is only the tip of the iceberg. Hope to see you delve into ufology more!
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