The Untold Secrets Of The Baker Street Heist

[@Thoughty2]

Thanks for watching! And thanks to Manscaped for sponsoring today’s video! Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping + 2 Free Gifts with my link manscaped.com/thoughty2

[@halaishere9358]

How is this 11 minutes old?-

[@jamiew.2718]

I haven't watched it yet you silly bastard

[@Kryptic.352]

I ordered thanks

[@SkyValleyStuff]

her daddy was killed for diddling her and that's why she gave up the country without a fight

[@tylerfuhrmann]

Does infographics do your animation?

[@Wulfieman]

The 2008 movie "The Bank Job" is about this exact heist. Great movie, highly recommend you watch it.

[@williampena197]

I now I know what to movie to watch next

[@nobbynoris]

It's a very good film. And sadly almost entirely seemingly unknown.

[@BDLeader88]

When this started I was like wait a minute this sounds like The Bank Job. Really good movie indeed

[@indianastones6032]

It's the 70s era movie with statham in it?

[@Wulfieman]

@@indianastones6032 yes

[@DrethNET]

I will never cease to be amazed by Thoughty2's dedication to create his own animations as well as stock footage. Simply incredible.

[@uncleted470]

Man’s a genius

[@mikkelbreiler8916]

A good thing he is talented because he could not reasonably pinch footage from the recent feature film adaption and call it his own.

[@littlewillowlinda]

Wait he creates it himself?? I thought he hired someone. Impressed!!

[@terencefletcher5139]

Really? Damn i thought he hired an animator

[@RickBomhof]

Writing: Damien Knightley Editing: Jack Stevens written and edited by other people.

[@danielaustin3650]

This channel is the healthiest mix of comedy and Britishness on the platform. I dare you to prove me wrong

[@uwuowo4856]

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[@boscobos6724]

💯😅

[@bluebirdhill-music322]

Brain Blaze

[@timsmith1323]

@@bluebirdhill-music322 lol I knew someone would comment a Simon whistler channel

[@travismiller5548]

@@timsmith1323 tbh the odds of any channel named being simon's are in his favor. Dude has a billion channels.

[@jeremys7131]

Gotta give it to the 4 in prison, if there were others, the fact they never ratted them out is pretty respectable. Especially since if one of them did, they likely could have shaved some years off their sentence. That’s the kind of loyalty money can’t buy.

[@kerrynicholls6683]

True old school

[@myscreen2urs]

They were probably promised a bigger cut to keep theirs mouths shut🙃

[@jiza4394]

Any half decent copper would have their eye on their family and close friends then, like you say, that type of loyalty isn't bought, but these coppers clearly weren't the sharpest.

[@ivanschweizer9146]

Since very little of the money was recovered, it's likely their cut was being looked after by the ones not in prison

[@davilathegreat]

Just so we're clear, we're celebrating the fact that some criminals avoid the consequences of their crimes because of their loyalty to one another, right? I don't see how that's a good thing.

[@picard714]

Presented like an English version of "Ocean’s 11." Awesome work, Thoughty!

[@nobbynoris]

With the obvious departure that this really happened. whereas Ocean's Eleven was just a film, and anyway Frank "Wank" Sinatra was about as much of a gangster as Thora Hird.

[@jeffmerz5367]

It's called "Snatch" and it's much, much better than ocean's eleven.

[@priyankarasrimal7085]

The bank job

[@aaronarmstrong9776]

Lady killers

[@eroshade4710]

2 i may add

[@SmokinBlunts781]

“Never talk to cops” has been true for as long as there has been cops

[@herrschmidt5477]

sigh...

[@MegaMattmagic]

🤐

[@davidmacphee8348]

From the time I was a child, I had to come to accept that most cops are idiots Selfish vanity over others and given all the power over everyone? Ok I was going to STOP THERE. Let me continue. I was starving during my work day and had to eat (not be eaten.) I serviced faulty alarms to take the pressure off the cops. I was extremely good at that however, when I slowed down a cop car pulled in front of me and parked in the spot I was looking at. Why? Because he wanted a Sub. Okay, there was still room behind him so I tucked my work van in there. Now he is ahead of me so I have to wait. He finally decided on what he wanted and the worker prepared it for him and he carried it out the door. i just wanted a Double Assorted but when I got mine, he had already written me a $40 parking ticket and was gone. What a prick but I was harassed by cops in my pre-teens as well by just running down the street or using walkie talkies To "Those People" , I must be committing a crime in progress. They actually had me in hand cuffs at 12 and I am not black. Note Black people are just as beautiful as anyone but a job as a cop attracts the worst among us.

[@davidmacphee8348]

@@herrschmidt5477 It gets a hell of a lot worse than that man.

[@MKdross]

ACAB

[@golfgrabu]

Vigorously twingling his knob. Thoughty2 never misses one occasion for a well placed innuendo.

[@humboldthammer]

Inn U end o ?? The Answer is: "42." "What the F does that mean? " But to find out, they needed a bigger computer . . . Thoughty2. Today, we finally know what "42" means . . . October 12th 2026 is exactly 42 moons sooner that the Vernal Equinox of 2030, which marks the beginning of the 3rd, 1000-year Days of Heaven since Jesus taught us, All men are brothers, love one another, and be perfect -- and was then crucified in the year we now call 30 AD. "Yeah, but what happens then?" the people asked. Then . . . final judgement for the devil and dragon -- Daniel 7: 9-14 and the Spirit of Truth comes and guides Mankind into all the truths of God's Universe that we are allowed to know. "Okay, but . . . what about before then?" The devil tries to absolve himself of blame by proving Mankind unfit for God's Kingdom with WAR -- every desperate nation, tribe, and peoples for themselves . . . in the Name of GAUD -- Grand Architect of Ur Destruction -- Abraham's Ur. "After all," the devil argues, "Jesus, Himself, tried to teach these beasts to love one another 1,991 years ago -- almost two full days in Heaven. Surely, the Ancients of Days will judge Man at fault. Or Jesus, Not Me." The devil is delusional. hint: September 23rd 2026, is exactly 3.5 years sooner. It's the autumn equinox of the US' and the illuminati's 250th year (1776-2026). That's when the Great Re-Set is scheduled. All the people will cry out in a shared, worldwide experience, "No more war. Forgive our debts. Save us from OMEGA. We will do Anything!" And that's when we unveil the NEON GAUD. Men and women will never lie, cheat, steal, or murder again -- so help us GAUD. Resistance is fatal. Disorder will not be tolerated. And so ends our 250-year experiment in Self-Government. EPIC FAIL ! ONE LAST CHANCE: Epochal Eclipse a CROSS North America on April 8th 2024. Don't stare at the sun. Exercise faith -- speak with THY God -- not THE god, if you want to "SEE" anything besides an eclipse. Matthew 16: 4 Jonah 3: 4-5, 8 Jonah 4: 11 See also Jonah 4: 12 heh-heh the future has not been written. I am NOT a Prophet.

[@28russ]

@@humboldthammer Ya completely missed the meaning of 42 and ya reading the wrong book. 🤦‍♂

[@humboldthammer]

@@28russ It's from Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- right? I told you the TRUTH. I suspect that YOU can't handle the truth. "Thanks, for all the fish." What book do you claim it's from. If you wanna challenge me -- at least risk your own hypothesis.

[@28russ]

​@@humboldthammer That's not from the guide mate. I was referring to the guide which I've read many times and I don't recall and of that bible bs being in there when they finally spoke to Deep Thought. Throwing around a few guide quotes then jamming a heap of bible bs after them doesn't make it form the guide 🤷‍♂🤦‍♂😂 Ya need to read the guide as if it were the bible. It is a wholly remarkable book after all. In fact it is probably the most remarkable book ever to come out of the great publishing houses of Ursa Minor (now that's a guide quote). Read it over and over like you would the bible and then you might have a better grasp on the meaning of 42 and that it has absolutely nothing at all to do with religion.

[@humboldthammer]

@@28russ It wasn't in the book. Finally, TODAY, we have the answer. I told you the truth. I suspect that I am at least 30% smarter than you. What is your take on the Guide's meaning of "42?" Do NOT be a Pretender with me. Do you think that I did not read that book? I have read thousands of books. Most men and women -- over 93% -- are nearly deaf and blind spiritually. That's NORMAL. They "see" and "hear" nothing. That's NORMAL. Why should YOU be any different?

[@davidlancaster6941]

The "Bank Job" with Jason Stathom illustrates this story well. Thoughty2 does a great job sorting out the facts here. Wonder what the documents will reveal in 2071. Thanks bro for sharing this episode. Lvya

[@MrHellknightimp]

Didn't they in that movie claim the princess was a lesbian? Or was that a different movie?

[@Juliusnonbeta-be8lx]

Saw the movie 🎥… interesting 🧐 indeed

[@Lybrel]

At this point, Manscaped should just send Aaron a fedora to complete his look.

[@definitelyhuman4510]

At this point, his name should be Arran 'Manscaped' Lomas

[@Shawteeee]

tips fedora *MILADY*

[@bryanthardin8481]

Or a bowler hat. Pull off that Dr Watson look

[@nickrog6759]

What has Manscape got to do with the Queen? Royal bushes is the job for the Royal Horticultural society .

[@viiiivivii306]

There was a similar case in Argentina some years back! Only those robbers had the foresight of using a stolen identification for renting, taken from an unfortunate taxi driver who happend to look alike to one of the robbers. Also, there was another case not long ago where the robbers miscalculated and opened the tunnel in a nearby pizzeria instead of a bank... and stole the equivalent of some 200 dollars instead of the millions they were going for.

[@mae8498]

I have just found your channel and it’s so interesting. Such good content!!!!!

[@mae8498]

@Mike Duncan no, I’m jealous of you hahaha. Thanks tho!!

[@LifelessonsfromaJUNKIE]

@Mike Duncan same! He used to wear nice suits now hes a lumberjack lol

[@RalphNader2020]

Such a great feeling when you find a good channel with a huge backlog of interesting videos. It's like watching a good series for the first time that is already on season 4.

[@Shokwave8]

This is literally the best format on youtube! Without a doubt! Thanks so much!

[@Dj.Ray.Von.]

I usually fast-forward the in video adverts... Except when I'm watching a Thoughty2 video. There's just something about this lad that makes me interested in anything and everything he's talking about. Still not going to shave my bollocks though! 😂

[@2760ade]

Same here mate! Why would you even want to, it's weird!!😮

[@cubeflinger]

KZbin, where everyone is a part time QVC presenter.

[@cbcris3264]

Okay

[@koolhand9396]

If you're British you know all about QVC lol 😂

[@TwoPaw-Shapurr]

That's seriously has got to be the most clever comment to come out since sponsorship for KZbin videos 🤣🤣 it's hard to find an original comment these days. In considering how obvious that comment is I am so surprised it took this long for someone to come up with it 🤣🤣🤣

[@ntomenicgiorgo3598]

Is the ball spray chocolate salted?

[@chrispy850]

Dudes the owner of this channel and you're referring to some sales scum. Apples and oranges bud

[@joannewalker4232]

Bloody hell, we've got to wait fifty years to cast a withering eye over princess Anne's lady garden and royal meringues. Thank god I'll be dead.

[@kerrynicholls6683]

Margaret. I got it wrong too, on another video. Margaret was the sister, Anne is her daughter apparently

[@mguanga3666]

Dude I've been loving the new cartoon scenes 🤣. Thanks for the continued commitment to quality for your vids

[@littlewillowlinda]

I can only imagine the security guards watching the footage of reg standing around the vault stretching with his umbrella 😂

[@adriananastasie1040]

what footage? it was 1970's .....there were no security cameras back then

[@JoshuaRWorkman]

Assuming I'm somehow still alive in 2071, I might remember this video and be interested to learn what was in those safety deposit boxes.

[@01zakman]

Someone comment and remind me in 2071

[@t4m3oninsta]

50 years ill be in my 60s. shit i might be alive

[@lolclips3539]

@@01zakman ill try to remember :D

[@01zakman]

@@lolclips3539 see i already forgot

[@Kazasia-_-]

@@01zakman Love the name lol

[@originalusername4118]

You make some of the most interesting content man, thank you

[@incredibleflameboy]

Sprays ball spray into his eye. "It smells really good too"

[@DocteurSnow]

My dude, your smile and knowledge brightens my day. Your videos are fascinating.

[@yewchewed]

Thought2. It's been years. This is by far your best look

[@od1452]

I remember being interested in how quickly the break-in was dropped from the media. I was sure there was some secret in those boxes. Sadly I expect the secrets will be so redacted that nothing new will be learned in the future.

[@kevinshort3483]

See my reply above. Pics were found of a Tory Peer in compromising situation with young boys. The pics were left out for the police but nothing came of it. No wonder they kept quiet

[@kevinshort3483]

Pics of a Tory Peer with young boys were left out by the guy who the Hatton Garden heist. He said this himself but nothing ever came of it. Big surprise eh ?

[@princejobe454]

"Hey Thoughty2 here" just makes my night!

[@tomm04471]

Theory; everyone got caught.. the lucky ones just had brilliant blackmail material in their share of the loot

[@joeortiz3455]

That was an awesome learning, thank you!

[@joepvankreij6191]

You didnt even watch it yet

[@scifibri2376]

@@joepvankreij6191 LOL how do you know he hadn't watched it yet?

[@joeortiz3455]

I actually watched it twice, saw where someone said the queens immortality key may be in a safe box ,or something to that effect

[@HemiKortene420]

"your jingle balls will thank you" Comic gold

[@Treblaine]

0:14 looks like Jimmy Carr with an elaborate moustache.

[@chessman237]

I’m really fond of your topic selection:: BRILLIANT!!👍💪

[@kam99105]

Saw the title, got confused, and had to click immediately

[@sirdre29]

Hahaha! This episode is a blast! :D You really had me with the Ricky Gervais! haha - And Kim jung as a golfer in the background picture :D

[@philipinchina]

Very good. Your humour is just the ticket. So many similar items are very laboured.

[@seascape1016]

Lol Arron getting really good at ur sponsors commercials! Love ur channel!

[@rumpelstiltskin9729]

I love 4 minute ads about taint trimming tools

[@dash8brj]

Love the way you portray these stories. Well done :)

[@lachlanbrennan6546]

Its something in his voice that just wants me to keep watching

[@lachlanbrennan6546]

Sus???

[@joshuawayneyork]

I love Forty-Two! Definitely one of my favorite KZbin channels.

[@coryrohrbaugh1208]

Unless this is sarcasm check his channel name

[@jackdurden466]

“Cute Doggie does a thing!” 😂😂😂 Not the worst heist ever done, when only such a small amount of the stolen loot is recovered, it’s a short 12 year wait to really enjoy yourself. Unless of course another dozen faces were involved in it all, and each getting a cut. Truly it’s disgusting they actually paid any attention to Rowlands for listening in, it’s not as if he asked or even planned to, he did everything he could to foul up the plan. And the damn coppers still beat him with their soft rubber truncheons! Unreal, yet true.

[@pope3529]

Thoughty2 begins another intellectually stimulating video* Manscaped - “Your jingle balls will thank you”

[@-JA-]

Thank you. 👍

[@gardnep]

In NSW we had the magnetic drill robbery in an obscure little town of Murwillumbah. Someone knew there was a payroll available for the taking, estimates were $1-3 mil. I think it was the late 70s or early 80s. No one has been caught.

[@bumfluffmcregor3730]

These Monday uploads are the best thing of the day

[@js5665]

Thoughty2, You Should Have Been a University Professor! Not only are you knowledgeable on many many subjects, the comedy you inject just keeps me and many others waiting for The Next Segment Of Knowledge No One Has Ever Thought Of Before! You Sir, make my day! Thank you, thank you very much!

[@Kodykenway]

I've followed this KZbin channel for years, I still hear 'forty-two' instead of thoughty2.

[@sallycapotosto6927]

How interesting to know one of my favorite movies was true! Thank you for this!!! 💜

[@andrewjohnson6716]

They also would have wanted to avoid explosives because they were using a tunnel and overpressure is a serious concern. Hilarious and entertaining video!

[@edd2184]

If I were Rowland I would have gave them one call. Once they decided to ignore me, it's no longer my problem. It's comical even though he aid them in solving the robbery... They still tried to press charges 😂

[@mbryson2899]

I wonder if the group had a cop on their payroll.

[@mateuszfydrych6649]

I love the style you make these videos!

[@themeantuber]

6:38 "then again, he would say that, wouldn't he?" And so would I and so would you... And I'm pretty sure neither one of us is a career criminal 😂

[@CaptMorpheusZ]

Speak for yourself.

[@SYH653]

An episode of "The Sweeney" featured a similar heist except the crooks used a jackhammer on the vault wall from the business next door. I don't think Regan & Carter nicked the whole gang either.

[@PujDK]

Idk, might be outrageous idea, but hear me out. I see you have photos you want no one to see right? So, how about, the material of the photos? They are made from that substance called paper. Now comes the crazy part, ever noticed how paper, when put into flames, like, burns, and disappears? How about, outlandish it seems, you put the photos into a fireplace for winter and make your problem disappear?

[@PujDK]

Or maybe queen was like "yeah, well, that one relative is kinda retarded, but well, he is the family, we will have little Will put them into family album by the time no one would know who they were anyway"

[@jenolaszlo2167]

Obviously not the royal family depositet it there lol , outrageous huh?

[@tyrlant2189]

It was probably someone else keeping it, not the royal family themselves. Duh

[@johncox2865]

You are making one seriously i correct assumption. See my comment above.

[@jasond.healerlynch5255]

Individuals holding these pics most likely wouldn't be royalty, ...they ...i don't need to go on.

[@Comicsluvr]

The chicken jokes were the best part lol!

[@ipsygypsy16]

It's lovely how they kept incriminating photographs in a safe deposit vault instead of destroying them.

[@raynardhymen2139]

It was a criminal who kept them in the box, using them as leverage.

[@rubenkerobyan6891]

Yeah, but now I have to wait until I'm 69 to see the sex tapes.

[@zackellis8253]

Finally an interesting thought2 video and not just science or weird

[@pandaman144.]

Originally I thought this was gonna be about the hatton garden robbery involving Basil, the Best Alarm Specialist In London, who went uncaught for 4 years after the robbery. In 2018 the movie "the king of thieves" was created, based heavily on the robbery. At the time of release Basil was still at large

[@karmatraining]

That crack about the Chicken Inn left me legless mate

[@bobthegoat7090]

Occasionally, I really wonder what would happen if someone who was actually clever underwent these crimes. Like someone clever enough to not lease the location of the crime in his name, and using non-encrypted walkie-talkies.

[@saisibi6708]

This video is like a bank robbery movie with all sorts of fancy introductions, but just in a lower budget. Nothing wrong there. Interesting video. Felt like I was watching Ocean's Eleven done by a stout British bloke

[@Wow55579]

Some quality thumbnail art 😂

[@billhardy7870]

I think Aaron should provide a "hands on" demonstration of the 'lawn mower' on his jingle balls with the LED light on some cold, dark winter night along with the proper application of the crop preserver ball deodorant and crop reviver ball toner spray. That would be a wonderful way to stuff some of his fans stockings this holiday season! :-P

[@tk9839]

he probably grew a stash on his jinglers...

[@ernestweaver9720]

I don't care much for criminals however these guy's are sensational. There was thought processing only and absolutely no violence whatsoever. Perfect.

[@kght222]

funny thing, the bank doesn't know what is in any of those vaults. so the heist could be successful even with the culprits being caught. edit: seriously, they only needed one key to one of the vaults that wasn't looted and they could have stuffed it full of money or gold or anything and it is very unlikely that you would ever be able to figure out which one or if it even happened.

[@danak1nn461]

Fun fact: Radio Luxembourg was one of the "pirate radio" stations that broadcasted pop and rock music back in the days.

[@n1tr4M]

I fkn love these vids man, found you resently and have been watching your vids everyday, so entertaninig + im actually learning lmao

[@kevinshort3483]

One of the guys who was in on this, who also did the Hatton Garden heist, found some pics of a Tory Peer with young boys. These were left out for the police to find but nothing ever came of it. Big surprise there then !

[@Caustic-]

I'm jealous of this man mustache🥺

[@crazy123hahaha]

Better and more exciting than the history channel 💯💯

[@therealab4]

The animations are looking high quality Arran! Keep it up dude

[@somerandomfella]

When I look down there, I think of Manscaped & Thoughty2 😆 Smart man promoting products to regain or get rid of your hair.

[@InfamousGold756]

Video starts at 3:12

[@xdsire4747]

Hey thoughty2 early merry Christmas To you m8 keep up the vids ❤️

[@BoosterGames]

@Thoughty2 Great video ones again. I very much enjoy the jokes and all the facts.

[@None_of_your_business666]

I remember laughing my ass off when one of the guys forgets to change the batteries of a device in oceans 11 and this almost kills the heist. 😂😂😂😂

[@AnthonyElsom]

In 1977, in Krugersdorp South Africa, this happened with the thieves getting away, and to this day unsolved. But of course, the Authorities would LOVE this to be forgotten, just like many other successful crimes squashed in the name of keeping the honest honest..🤔

[@sarcasso9039]

Thanks !

[@scifibri2376]

I am pretty sure they made a movie about this! I am going to look for it now LOL!

[@herrschmidt5477]

the bank heist

[@raynardhymen2139]

The bank job 🙄

[@rileygranderson6125]

I love stories like this🤩😏

[@morrigankasa570]

I like the Nail-Kit but don't care for the other products by Manscaped. Though I am glad they sponsor KZbinrs I like. As for the actual video content, very interesting and informative.

[@Jammsbro1]

"We still don't know"...proceeds to start naming the people who did it....

[@aohdan5713]

Thoughty2 is the goat, always making these high quality intellectual videos to make us smarter. National treasure

[@MRJason-c6w]

18:40 LOOL so it was you who used the flamethrower to get your gang inside the bank 🏦!!! 🤣

[@jjwkoester]

Amazing how they might’ve been able to get away with it if an alias was used on the lease

[@dawsonjosiahwilliams]

2071 "We all might be dead by then." Truth Thoughty.

[@savourypotato]

"23cm long" Shows a meter 😂

[@jamesjross]

Radio Luxembourg was English language and was a way to circumvent UK BBC Radio monopoly.

[@phishENchimps]

The archived film from the US D-day landings. The ones they won't tell you about. They claimed that they were lost in the ocean when a ship was sunk.. Just too graphic to release to the public. Should be released June 6th 2044.

[@TheBlabla1996]

By the germans?

[@phishENchimps]

@@TheBlabla1996 US film, held in British archives. After each boat returned to rearm and prepare to bring more troops, they would take the film to immediately be developed so commanders could see second hand the conditions of the beach. They did this to better prepare for the next wave of men. I heard about this from a military forum in the late 90's.

[@TommyGun1979]

The dude who thought he was going to pierce concrete with a jack knew nothing about concrete properties lol. Its strength is its resistance to compression 🤣

[@SEB1991SEB]

There was a great film about this made in 2008, called 'The Bank Job', with Jason Statham. I'd recommed it.

[@ShaunKnudsen-k8x]

Great Storytelling

[@venesaknight8064]

I have been told this story from as early on in my life and some of the older members of my family would swear that my grandfather had been born a South African deu to one of his elders having been part of said robbery. It was told to me that the person said to be involved fled to Cape Town and changed their surname from Knightingale to Knight. Yet I will never find out how much or little truth there is to this as the ones who told me these thing are all in their grave but this will always be an amazing story to me.

[@omarhagechehade6785]

Great video

[@marcofiorino1196]

Wouldn't they just have destroyed the photos instead of storing them in a safety deposit box?

[@dxb8086]

Wouldn't make a good story, would it? :D

[@YY-mk4ti]

Why would someone who doesn't want that photo be seen keep it? Found it out yet? The one keeping it was someone who wants it to be seen or at least use it as leverage or just someone who likes keeping secrets.

[@toxicginger9936]

It would have been a blackmailer storing the photos there to be used at their leverage against the person IN the photos.

[@markcepeda8144]

Interesting as usual!!!

[@TyronesCrustySocks]

Hey guys welcome back to my minecraft let’s play

[@block9928]

Excuse me, could you please make some content?

[@TyronesCrustySocks]

NO.

[@kennedybunga399]

You make advertising enjoyable. I always look forward to the adverts as well.

[@gbruceg5138]

Why is there a portrait of Kim Jun Ung hanging on the wall at the 09:55min mark?

[@herrschmidt5477]

Idk looks rather like Kim Jong Un

[@gbruceg5138]

@@herrschmidt5477 phonetics work.

[@karlh3056]

Worth watching for the Manscape ad.....☺

[@FirstLast-vr7es]

Robert Rowlands embarrassed the police by exposing their flaming incompetence. Clearly the thing for them to do then was to intimidate and threaten to charge him with a crime. It's unreal that someone actually thought that was a reasonable idea...

[@Navigator87110]

Shaving commercials have changed a lot since I was a kid.