Thousand Sons - Getting Started in Horus Heresy

[@Michaentus]

*Prospero may burn, but the light of knowledge shall never die.*

[@Weapon01]

Space Sorcerers, these guys are why Death Guard (and everyone else) take Sisters as allies in anyway you can.

[@benlolmaugh4256]

I hate the rubrics in 40k, all mine are 30k models including sekmet. Love the TS, hate the goofy sculpts.

[@amg5787]

That’s what I’m planning on doing. Hopefully players won’t say anything about it.

[@davedogge2280]

32:17 those decals are great, you don't get that quality in the Wh40K Rubric space marines box last time I looked.

[@thewayfarer8849]

*All is not yet dust!*

[@disgruntled_veteran]

I've played Thousand Sons for 26 years. They are the greatest legion!

[@yakuzabobbins]

Huge fan of the Thousand Sons, absolutely a Tzeentch loyalist, got to "can have a force weapon" around 2:35 with the previous info and went AHAHAHA no, case closed, you're right immediately. Spot on squire.

[@TheExcessus]

Lots of things has changed in the FAQ, add text bubbles with the changes maybe?

[@dalorasinum386]

Three of these in three days well done man.

[@TheOuterCircle]

It has been a slog. I kept recording after the show and just did an hour-long muse session where I talk about the Thousand Sons, the Heresy fluff, things I find annoying or cool. It will upload over the next hour or two.

[@forthetsar9505]

Will need to wait on this legion, until I gain more expertise in 30k. Have a 40k Thousands Sons army though. Thank you for sharing. ~ Will

[@christopherwitecki6649]

Thank you. Working on these guys and love it. Shame I can't get Sehkmet upgrades without the plastic kit now.

[@benstewart8516]

What's your thoughts on using the Venerable Dreadnought straight out of the box for 30K? Using the less ornate bits I think it wouldn't be a terrible model to use as a MK IV Dread personally

[@TheOuterCircle]

I used it, the Venerable can be assembled with really nothing 40k about it. I head-swapped it for a Thousand Sons Khenetai helmet and it came up a treat!

[@benstewart8516]

Are there any of the weapon options that should be particularly avoided? Sorry for the daft questions, I'm still pretty new to the Heresy and I'm keen to get it right. I'm currently thinking about doing the same as you but with a Death Guard helmet... assuming Death Guard can use them, of course, I really should get the damn book to check first

[@RobAndTheChaps]

3 years ago Macca says “Magnus loves his legion, maybe a bit too much” - I have just finished the book Fury of Magnus form HH. And yup heartbreak and macca xpredicti

[@henrythe9th377]

For the vindicators, I would give them machine spirit. Given the amount of ap 2 and 3 weapons in 30k, I would take breachers for thousand sons, as they can get 4+/5+ invulnerable saves. Of course points limits permitting.

[@TheOuterCircle]

If you have a command tank the machine spirit also allows the split firing of the individual vehicles with no penalties and you always get that 'on the move full BS' shot to boot.

[@wattambor5043]

We finally made it lads!

[@wattambor5043]

Also, what type of helmets should Mk3 Thousand Sons wear? Is just the regular bucket helmet style one alright, with perhaps a special helmet for the sergeant in the unit?

[@TheOuterCircle]

You could do that, I think they do make more sense with the Achea pattern or their other upgrade pattern.

[@Jackalos1]

The heads in the "Achean Pattern" set are labelled as a Mk2 pattern that is still used by veterans by the time of the Burning of Prosepro, so I would say go with those or the standard heads. The heads in the "Thousand Sons" set are all Mk4.

[@TB-ps6wc]

Looking at the rules, why would anyone take Ahriman? And why wouldn't you take Amon every time?

[@TheOuterCircle]

Because Ahirman is a battery to fuel other psykers. Also, it's a getting started list, it's not about spending as much money as possible or using special Characters, it's value for money. Ahriman's sculpt is perfectly fine for a range of HQ's in the army.

[@davetycho8330]

Ahriman giving scout to 3 Covivdae Div Sniper vet squads is nasty.

[@JudasBrennan]

You don't get to charge when you levitate.

[@JudasBrennan]

A Cortex Controller doesn't let you join Castellax. In all of 30k the only IC who can join Castellax are Praevians and Magos Dominus.

[@TheOuterCircle]

It was FAQ'd that you can join a techmarine with cortex controller to Castellax. Also, you can charge when you levitate, it just becomes disordered.

[@JudasBrennan]

Levitation is a blessing that targets the Psyker[...] The Psyker and his unit cannot charge in the same turn that they use this power[...] As for the character joining the unit of Castellax, can you please provide a link? I've never seen that in an FAQ by FW, and I don't think Cortex Controllers have ever been in 40k, so it wouldn't be there. There is no FAQ on the FW website, so I am inclined to think you're misremembering. :)

[@TheOuterCircle]

Sorry, I have misspoken, you don't "join" the unit, you can "heal" the unit, it's mech characters with controllers who can join the unit.

[@Killhunter1996]

Which Guns would you put on a contemptor?

[@BaileyBecca]

What do you want your contemptor to do? Two assault cannons as a Morrtis is always good

[@Killhunter1996]

@@BaileyBecca man.. this is over 6 months ago, i did go with two twin las cannons, as the resin Assault cannons are just a real pain in the ass to build and arent really straight, as i sadly had to learn with a other contemptor i had. But the question was more about TS specific, if one of the weapons work espacially well with them.

[@BaileyBecca]

Narrenlord do thousand sons change how a dreadnought work?

[@Killhunter1996]

@@BaileyBecca I dont know, that is why i asked, but some legions have buffs for specific weapon that make them better than on other legions.

[@BaileyBecca]

How does being brotherhood or phykers allow the secmet to pick their powers

[@TheOuterCircle]

Back when this video was made, this unit had a rule saying they picked their powers.

[@BaileyBecca]

The Outer Circle where was this rule? I don’t recall ever seeing it

[@BaileyBecca]

Did you say secmet get to choose powers?

[@CaptainPlunk]

You can't charge after levitation spell, true they did some very weird stuff with Inferno after so much waiting to release such a wanky book... Thanks for this videos man, you rock !

[@TheOuterCircle]

I thought you could but it counts as disordered, at least that's what the card tells me...

[@CaptainPlunk]

I just checked my rulebook, no charge after this spell :(

[@Mekol]

Wait after Leviatate they could charge ? i thought is says in the power that they really cant do that

[@piccoloktheforged]

Magnius loved his legion maybe a little to much This is the primarch how made a LITERAL DEVIL FOR EMPEROR'S SAKE

[@SgtOddballz]

Is there even a good army list builder for TS or SW? Army Builder doesnt seem to have them, battlesctlribe is crap...i realize i can do it by hand but having ur stuff summarized is helpful...but apparently we must old school...which is also keeping tge game from being popular when 40k is totally supported.

[@SgtOddballz]

I ask cause i also like to build list n buy rather than just buy random stuff.

[@TheOuterCircle]

Try Quartermaster or Battlescribe

[@SgtOddballz]

The Outer Circle cool thank u will check out quartermaster 😀

[@TB-ps6wc]

Ultramarines a the hardest legion to run..... Because you're playing Ultramarines, ugh.

[@ShaDO118k]

@The Outer Circle. I have just started your vid and I just want too pull you up on your beggining statement on the Thousand Sons, about them being op? What......? didin't they get they're ass's kicked by the Space Wolfs? Now granted that is not exactly a smight against the Sons becasue the Wolf's are....... well the wolfs but still:L.

[@feral_7706]

He doesnt mean in the fluff, he means on the tabletop :p

[@commanderbacara225]

@@feral_7706 Also it mostly felt like the Space wolves got their asses kicked during the BoP. Leman Russ almost got his entire legion strike force of over 20-30000 legionaries encircled by a few hundred Ammitara Occult Psi-Infiltrators supported by a few thousand Spireguard Templars (TS Solar Auxilia Veletaris) in Inferno, which fked up the Space Wolves spearhead since the Ammitara Occult and Solar Auxilia kept teleporting around the encircled space wolves, forcing them to engage in ambush and counter-ambush tactics. This royal fk up prompted Valdor to send down the Anathema Psykana (SoS) and Custodes to prevent the TS from stopping the invasion before it even began. Not saying they're OP but if a few hundred TS legionaries + Solar auxilia could keep 3 full companies engaged at bay, I just found that statement above hilarious.

[@BaileyBecca]

Well magnus did everything he could to hide that the wolfs were coming and sent as much of his legion away as he could and yet The sons still put up a good fight. But I belive he was referring to table top not the lore

[@loganlough6510]

I don't like the Arhiman model at all I feel like he should look less ornate. He even personally believe that you should hone your skills without psychic abilities cause you never know