THOUSAND SONS - Suzerains of Dust | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@4starseniormasterspecialist]

Magnus the big red battery 😢

[@codyclark6779]

Yeah but I personally feel like, he would be able to leave the throne and wouldn't be screaming in pain. As he wouldn't have ripped open the web way and ruined the wards. So he could literally have Ahriman and his bois man the chair the cock pit so to speak. And the rest of his legion to some degree, spread amongst the web way just always tending the wards etc. Magnus was sooooo key :(

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

​@@codyclark6779We also have to remember, Magnus is just as familiar with the Warp as he is with reality. He is as much a being of imagination and emotion as he is one of physical matter and logic. To him, everyone being afraid of the Warp and it's secrets was very, very strange, because his entire culture, even his perception of reality, was warp touched. Being on that throne probably would have been euphoric, being not only capable of withstanding the psychic bombardment of the Golden Throne as a mostly psychic being, but being able to go basically anywhere he wanted because of the power and knowledge he holds. God, that just makes Magnus's story even more infuriatingly depressing. If Magnus was practical and perceptive enough, he could have had it the best of any Primarch. Had he waited just that little bit longer, it's entirely possible that he would have gotten his dream of bringing humanity with him across the Great Ocean. Then again, in 40k, nothing is truly a dream come true.

[@theophiledumont3291]

The thousand sons really have a touching and tragic story. They wanted to elevate humanity with knowledge. Yet they were burned by the ignorant too afraid to see the light. And magnus is one of the best primarch simply cause he couldn't condemn his sons when the emperor asked him. In the end they were not traitor, they were the betrayed. Betrayed by the emperor at nikea, betrayed by russ. Betrayed by humanity who hated psyker, betrayed by the imperium....

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Betrayed by Horus above all! He changed Russ’s orders from capture to kill.

[@craynak]

@@emperorconstantine1.361 Glad you got that comment in, Magnus could been the key, which is why Horus screwed him over and basically took him out of the Seige of Terra.

[@Thetemplar33]

Sounds a lot like heresy to me

[@Icspiders247]

I like how this comment totally glosses over Magnus' faults.

[@drgonzo305]

Magnus got a little “too cool” with human sacrifice to send out emails and got a little too chummy with warp entities

[@Matt-md5yt]

I'm so glad you talked about these guys. My heart goes out to them and their loyal members

[@cypher4783]

The Thousand Son's story really is a warning about the difference between wisdom and knowledge

[@Corrosive-fx6iq]

What is the art at 22:07 and who made it

[@DewayneMcClure-bm2pj]

Yup, and how easily vastly intelligent, optimistic, idealistic, and empathetic individuals, when traumatized enough can become bitter, cynical, selfish, jaded monsters.

[@bluegeniusw1186]

The Blood Ravens older brothers.

[@SleepingKing]

we certainly tried to mold them.

[@synergy8879]

what irritates me the most was that leman disobeyed and ignored a direct order from the EMPEROR and instead decided that horus’ order to kill magnus was instead the order to follow, he didn’t check why horus gave him the order, he didn’t stop to consider that maybe the emperors orders were absolute and he didn’t stop to consider that it was suspicious that horus wanted magnus dead. but no, he just wanted to kill the psyker, get it over with and go back home to fuck his chihuahua.

[@smileyface6583]

and do you wanna know the worst part? the absolute worst part?? primarchs…. are supposed to be the smartest things created from mankind. they’re supposed to know everything, or at least have a very good understanding of every concept, every skill, and every trade, and yet, they are dumber than even the dumbest human beings when it comes to their actions…

[@ramonserna8089]

It was the emperor fault for sending the idiot of Leman instead of Lionel or Giliman.

[@Wizley15]

Horus was the Warmaster and greatly beloved by all Primarchs. I think most of them took his word without a second thought. Not to defend Russ, I am a Thousand Sons player

[@frankiehernandez6232]

​​@@Wizley15 I know he was the warmaster but Lenan let his hatred cloud his judgement because if the emperor sent lets sat Corvus corax who equally hated warp users he would have definitely said "are you sure about this, I want to speak with father"

[@theaussie8349]

@@ramonserna8089 neither legion were available to do so, and Leman had a history of dealing with other space marines (see his role in the purging of the 2nd and 11th Legions from the Imperium’s official history)

[@ImperatorIke573]

Magnus: "I punched out one of his HEARTS!!! WHY DOES EVERYBODY FORGET THIS?!"

[@mn46842]

How did you not mention that the emperor offered to forgive magnus on terra, and magnus wanted to accept but the emperor demanded he abandon the thousand sons so he refused. Such a big point to miss

[@joshley1320]

Because that was in the primarch video

[@IroncladQuzar]

I'm not sure if any Space Wolves fans feel it, but there really is little way to argue that Leman Russ was gunning for the TSons to be executed. My Bois just out there using their Papa's gifts, and a bunch of space furries called them cringe and not very awoo, demanding them to be cancelled. Yeah, they turn into bird monsters every now and then. But the legion who turns into literal wolves and have communion with warp entities don't have much ground to stand on here. Magnus did nothing wrong!

[@nestorgamer9746]

Both the Russ and Magnus were both manipulated by Horus in the end They had no choice the in the matter

[@DewayneMcClure-bm2pj]

Russ thought he wanted to destroy the Thousand Sons....until he faced Magnus and was like "hm am I really gonna kill another brother?" He and his legion were pigheaded but he at least realized his own foolishness when his legion and later chapter never did.

[@vazzeg]

I was waiting so much for you to do a video on the Thousand Sons. They're my favorite! PS: Magnus did nothing wrong.

[@X3Cerberus]

Really impressed that you mentioned the Vulcan and Magnus duel. Shows how up to date on the lore you are

[@dwaynehicks6838]

The most interesting traitor legion , definitely the coolest looking.

[@inquisitorgarza312]

The Thousand Sons were by far one of the most powerful legion and their psykers power were rival to none and they were warrior scholars who perhaps been a shining beacon on how humanity future can be molded, but their only weakness was their arrogance and pride that they alone understood the powers of the warp and that nothing can threaten them in the immaterial.

[@TheMustaFox]

Na, their weakness was a bad father figure

[@mustaproductionsperez6726]

Very good narrated videos. The effort is very much noticed throughout. What I like the most about your style is ending the videos with the beautiful "The Chapel" song from Dawn of War 1 (for when a video about the origins of the Blood Ravens, and Angelos too?) as you narrate the epilogue of the current theme, for then dropping the content of the next "transmission".

[@lord_inquisitor_flietch]

Imma say it... Magnus DID nothing wrong (kinda)

[@darkhighwayman1757]

Ya end up with giant chicken feet...ya F*cked up

[@ElenaWraithSevatarion]

Yessssssssss. I'm such a fangirl, I'm sorry😢. I love this channel. You and warrior Tier are my favorite ones 🖤

[@TheRemembrancer]

I hope you enjoy this transmission, it was a lot of work but I think it's one of my finest.

[@ElenaWraithSevatarion]

@@TheRemembrancer it's hard to pick a favorite honestly. The quality, the effort, the excellent voice are always top tier. (My personal favorite is the Mawdrym Llansahain video.)🖤🦇🖤

[@4starseniormasterspecialist]

Them and Baldermort are definitely my favorites!

[@ElonTusks]

@@ElenaWraithSevatarion this channel is 10/10 I did like warrior tier but the narration is all off for me , he sounds like a punch drunk space Wolf recalling an old battle

[@ElenaWraithSevatarion]

@@ElonTusks 😒

[@AlphaOmegon]

Not the Space wolfs targetting the magicians for being magicians while them themselves have magicians and have some of their people turning into mutated wolfs.

[@Vandakai]

Mutated wolves are controllable the warp is not.

[@AlphaOmegon]

@@Vandakai And next you are telling me rune priest draw power from Fenris right?

[@Vandakai]

And who holds the rune priests accountable?? The very space wolves that would kill them as much they would pursue and kill any other that has any attachment to the warp if the need to do so risen... THE ONLY REASON WHY they continue to exist is because everyone knows that if it came to pass the space wolves would kill them.. @@AlphaOmegon

[@DewayneMcClure-bm2pj]

​@@AlphaOmegonNo they actually do. I used to believe like you did as a Chaos fan but in newer lore there are actual anti-Chaos nature "spirits" on Fenris the Rune Priests use as channels for their psykers. BS maybe? Sure, but it's canon

[@darko-man8549]

Magnus did a lot wrong but he deserved better - almost all the cards were against him and did not deserve his final outcome. Russ can suck it

[@anidioticeyeball1953]

At long last, I'm happy that you're covering the Thousand Sons, so underrated.

[@JoyBoyGiorno]

Hey I just found your channel about a week and a half ago, I've been binge watching most of your uploads since in my free time. Your videos are so well put together and I just wanted to personally thank you for creating such great content for us fans, regardless of how in-depth into the 40k Lore we are! Keep up the great work Remembrancer! The emperor and his mighty imperium are surely pleased with your work.

[@thelion2751]

Cowards? Russ and his bs always piss me off calling their powers bad and the use of librarians a bad choice is such hypocrite thing to say because he is one of them! The rune priest are still librarians but father needed to hear the stupidity from mortarion and russ both hypocrites and worse of all both of them are connected to the warp,to this day this make my blood boil

[@rauleduardocanulavila9603]

A documentary style it's great, vast information, great channel!

[@FlameForgedSoul]

Join us for this latest installment of "The True Enemy were the Emperor's Piss Poor Decisions All Along."

[@Cmdtheartist]

Terrific work. You think you know about a chapter, about a group, and then, this.

[@darko-man8549]

The webway projext wasn’t completely ruined - the Emperor wanted Magnus to help him fix it - hence the desire to not see him killed

[@lukasz.adamski]

Thousand Sons are the best example of Emperor's dubious morality and unjust.

[@andresjerguson350]

First video from your channel.... Thank you so much for story time and subes.😊

[@kirksabio2382]

The universe has aligned once again. I know you plan all of these in advance buy to have it premiere as I'm In the middle of "A Thousand Sons" by Graham McNeil is simply delightful.

[@kylebrown5512]

22:35-Kitties!

[@jimsabo1189]

You know an army is cool when it has a Primarch and the same amount of unique units as the Harlequins.

[@wds-net]

amazing narrative and accompanied artwork 11/10!

[@BattleBrotherZuriel]

One of the best videos yet, I like the longer format deep dives, but I realize that takes a lot more work. Good stuff!

[@Trillsgtarchdornan]

Thousand sons wow 17 , different bits in this one video. 18 including intro but wow. they seem to have so much depth compared to alpha legion

[@joejackson2662]

Some new thousand sons lore love it

[@enxman7697]

Great video!

[@dancooper4443]

Another cracking video. Thank you Remembrancer!

[@borisdorofeev5602]

The artwork is gorgeous and the 1000 sons have style. Each one is unique and usually extremely powerfull. They must very fun to draw. You can not draw a 1000 sons Space Marine without making up the entire background life story for them. The Corvide should be bffs with the Blood Raven, BTW.

[@codyinacoma]

Excellent my friend. You touched on alot of things most people don't. So good job on digging. There were a couple things I was like damn lol. Loved it man.

[@eichler721]

Amazing video and love the lore of the Thousand Sons and Magnus. They are the force i would least like to fight due to no real counter to Sorcery and Psychic powers unless you are Custodes working with Sisters of Silence.

[@RandomB13]

How about a transmission about Soul Drinkers? I don't think there is one here yet. Quite fascinating journey they had

[@apostoldimov9856]

Master ❣️ Please consider an elucidation on Ahzek Ahriman or one for the Greatest 1000 Son that remained loyal to His Imperium! P.S: You Illuminate my Darkness with each elucidation - can't wait for the 20+ mins ones for Vindicare and Callidus ❣️❣️❣️

[@peterga3658]

another amazing video man . good job .

[@chaplainwierddream]

Magnus "incapacitated" Malcador. Quite a tame word used there.

[@x0lopossum]

Damn, only if they weren't afflicted by uncontrollable mutations.

[@mykelengieza7057]

dude definitely brings it every vid. I totally appreciate the effort, skill, and dedication THE REMEMBRANCER puts into every one. thanks Brother

[@DeHerg]

32:40 "the cult of duplicity/manipulation..." oddly enough all of them named Alpharius

[@EdwardVGrimm]

Yusss. Can't wait! 🔥🔥🔥

[@derptrolling4740]

Legion of Magicians, warlocks, wizards and sorcerers

[@BallisticDamages]

In the end, it really was the Master of Mankind's own choice to not fully trust his sons with more of his plans that led to the destruction of all his plans for humanity and the webway. If Magnus had known, he would not have broken the barriers. Ego and trust are the Emperor's biggest weaknesses. Willing to destroy worlds for the sake of humanity, but hesitant to defeat his own son Horus, he really seems more human the more you learn. I'm a Warhammer lore noob, but man there are layers upon layers here.

[@kahtrellscott1436]

They are awesome legion

[@SheolAbaddonus666]

I think Tzeentch is redundant. Maybe these videos would change my mind, but I still don't know why Astartes would follow Tzeentch instead of literally anything else. What good is knowledge if it has no practical applications? Knowing isn't doing. That's why me and my homies praise Nurgle, God of not giving a fuck.

[@joshley1320]

Knowledge is power

[@granthill837]

You just don’t miss brother 🎯

[@Aid-F]

"Vile sons of Magnus!"

[@derptrolling4740]

Sorcerer legion.

[@HalfBreedMix]

That music,,,,,,, right at the start of the vid,,,,,,,,,, Isn't that from the Eternal Crusade game (Eldar faction I believe) ?

[@dreyusfindus9699]

19:52 „Romani“. I‘d rather say roman to not cause any confusion ;)

[@Michael.Virtus]

Is this video include spoilers for 'Ahriman: Eternal' (the newest 4th book)? Because I am just finishing the trilogy for a second time and am about to read the 4th book that released recently.

[@TheRemembrancer]

There shouldn’t be any spoilers 😉

[@Michael.Virtus]

@@TheRemembrancer Thanks for the answer. In that case I will watch and enjoy the video. Thank you.

[@JohnRoy-nx1fu]

Looking for a new chaos army to build so thought why not the Thousand Sons……I’ve always admired the Magnus the Red Model & have an already impressive.Plague Marine & Nurgle Daemon army built but unpainted & just as impressive Black Legion army….for the emperor I’ve got an ever growing primaris only 2nd company Ultramarines & possibly Fulminators, Adepta Sororitas, Ad Mech & finally……. A sizeable Cadian army…..I just don’t think I have the space to build my bombed out city battlefield. Once built I wanna put a glass case over it…….

[@Kyser666]

Amazing wizard legion!

[@legiontepes3474]

Ngl, I like the thousand sons, but they are the embodiment of the saying :the path for hell is made of good intentions. Magnus was an idiot and he lead his Legion to ruin by meddling with powers he was so arrogant that he thought he had mastered them whereas he was just a tool.

[@iwatchyoutube4179]

I didn't even know the thousand son employed stealth and deceit among it's military doctrine. I mean they still are Tzeentch legion so yeah they became a lot more cooler for me especially.

[@Aureliano01]

If the Emperor had helped Magnus, he meaby be still loyal, a personal thot

[@warshak11]

they were named the thousands sons because thats was all that was left ,(because of the flesh change ) when magnus was found

[@lonedesertfox]

Thank you brother

[@jwb_666]

Magnus did nothing wrong and Big E is a jerk. Also small correction the first 1000 marines were not made on the moon but on terra well before the conquest of Luna

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

after learning of the specialist ranks and cults, what i wouldn't give for a 40k console game where you can play as a thousand son who comes from either of those 2.

[@Demothones]

Great video but, if you are going to talk about the Thousand Sons, then you have to talk about Iskandor kayon. Maybe he’ll get his own video?

[@ludkoto08]

I like Iskandar Khayon from Thousand sons so far thats the only 2 books i've read with them.

[@edward7336]

To see The Thousand Sons vs The Necrons what a time

[@ellis7622]

MAGNUS DID NOTHING WRONG

[@shimazutakuma1031]

Necrons : Space Mummies? That's US! Don't copy our schemes! Rubrik Marines : Well, we are space Egyptians 😂

[@JudicialBrat]

The Lords of Change that never was. Fates who could they weave yet cannot escape; damnation eternal due to the machinations of change.

[@Improperman]

Their "betrayal" was justified though.

[@jackofblades6083]

Hearing magnus and the thousand sons story makes me realise just how much the emperor had it wrong.He empowered himself by stealing power from chaos then punished magnus for doing the same.

[@baldbeardedbassist]

The more you learn about 40k, the clearer it gets... Big E, for all his power, really just sucks as a person lol

[@Hiihtopipa]

Lore accurate name for thousand sons would be hundreds sons.

[@patticusfinch139]

Woah, who made that awesome piece of art at 22:05? It looks incredible. Thanks for covering the thousand sons too. I’m planning on making a Thousand sons army soon

[@blagojpejov4155]

Magnus did nothing wrong

[@patrickmcneil5089]

22:08 this image makes me uncomfortable 😣

[@mykelengieza7057]

dude is that one of their techmarines or some chaos spider marine...wtf

[@patrickmcneil5089]

@@mykelengieza7057 i have no idea

[@JonathanCrane228]

Who is that at 22:06?

[@nonimport-ante]

still nothing on the collective/last charge of the warhounds😪😭😭?

[@the_last_blue_shiba]

Thousand Sons' supremacy

[@Cooler571]

Magnus was the best primarch, would have been SO cool if they stayed loyalist

[@NiskRanThawll]

So he could power the golden throne for eternity? What a fate.... Magnus was created with limitless power via an attachment to the warp with the intent to be the focus for the golden throne, allowing the terra webway portal to remain stable without the intrusion of the demonic legions. This connection is what fuelled his desire to understand the warp, he never knew his destined role. Irony that it was this connection magnus broke in warning of horus' betrayal. Magnus chose choas out of betrayal against him, his legion and glorious home planet. Had it not been for tizca and the perfect city monarchia (word bearers) the heresy probably wouldn't have happened, and russ or alpharius/omegon would have purged Angron and Mortarion...

[@gideonhorwitz9434]

All is dusk ooooooooooh

[@DeathSithe92]

It's a shame they won't exist anymore in 10th, but gw has said in the past they never wanted them to actually exist outside a chapter that got obliterated in the HH.

[@azulaahriman]

What have you been smoking? They are in 10th >.

[@ninthundertow]

#magnusdidnothingwrong

[@TheBenzooh]

i like the crimson sons

[@shadowborn1456]

Thousand sons the persians of 40k

[@HeartlessNinny1]

Remember Tizca!

[@christianvoorhees69]

Dont you tell anybody from the 6th legion I gave this a thumbs up - you tell them I flagged it for heresy!

[@mickholohan4266]

Great video brother

[@themagnanimous1246]

Magnus did everything wrong but his legion is innocent!

[@Taydutt13]

Am i dreaming?

[@lolbots686]

The husk turned knight looked to the wolf,hunter and avenger. The air was tense. "...can you give us some privacy?" The wolf said breaking the silence. The 2 eyed him. "I...dont find that wise." Guiliman said. "Please. 10 minutes." The lion sighed. "5 minutes. If theres trouble before then,you know what happens." Guiliman relented,then left them. "Go on. Get it out of your system. Noone can hear us exactly." Russ spoke bluntly. "Fine. Your a hypocrite." "Yes." "Your short sighted, bloodthirsty and incapable of seeing past your own faults." "...that i am." "You slaughtered everyone on prospero. My sons. Men. Women and children." "......i did." "And my other half has tried time and again to enact the vengeance i long for." "And you dont? Why magnus? Why are you,even if your noble shard not consumed by vengeance?" Psychic power glowed between his hands,but then,he breathed. "Because my vengeance is meaningless when you are not the one who orchestrated my fall. Make no mistake you pulled the trigger,and the concequences will haunt you leman. But who made you pull that trigger is another matter entirely. And besides...i hate to admit it,but youve changed. Youve become something i probably should have before i refused salvation to keep my sons alive." "What,a better psyker? Dont remind me." "No. You admitted you were wrong. It was too late for me." "So what do you plan to do. Kill me or your own sons perhaps?" "No." The 1st grey knight spoke resolute "Im going to rebuild. I will start from scratch and build a legion of wayward sons redeemed and made in equal measure. Ive failed my brothers. I destroyed my legion and sons,and doomed our father to what should have been my fate. But i can still,try to do good." The ancient kings ice blue eyes watered. Even if it wasnt fully Magnus,it was still him at his best. This knight was left of magnus. As the 2 re entered,the lion nodded. "So i was right after all. It is good to see you back if but a shard,magnus." "I agree. But we have matters to atend to...and i have a vengeance long overdue with that snake who orchestrated all of this." To be continued

[@Zombgetsu]

Yoo ! Im late 😪

[@chainsawsubtlety9828]

Magnus did everything wrong.

[@Adrian-vd6ji]

romanian rambo bites pillows liiiike heeeeeeey

[@HateMachinist]

"All is dust..."

[@Mr.LaughingDuck]

17:50 So no one's going ask *WHY DOES AHRIMAN HAVE NIPPLES ON HIS ARMOR???*

[@thepoliticalgunnut8018]

Have you not seen his dad? Least he doesn't have horn tits.

[@Icspiders247]

One of Magnus' biggest problems was that he used the powers of the warp so liberally thinking that there would be no drawbacks or that the denizens of it having nothing but altruistic intentions. The very definition of naive.

[@spartanx9293]

4:45 to which I would respond get rid of your rune priests you massive hypocrite

[@christianvoorhees69]

To which, anybody worth their salt, will tell you that is the same as comparing "putting a astartes into a dreadnought is tech heresy". It's understandable but the details make the definition, not your interpretation!

[@spartanx9293]

@@christianvoorhees69 both make use of the warp rune priests are essentially librarians that restrict himself to drawing from fenris

[@InternetSupervillain]

Boomer Blood Ravens