I used to work in a shop that specialized in grinding and only grinding. "surface grinding , and holding flat ,square , parallel" was my favorite. But this stuff your showing and that machine is literally insane. truly beautiful work.
@jeremy12ga262 жыл бұрын
Same except also waterjet: Gockel G-65 and 50 surface grinders, centerless grinders etc.
@flaplaya2 жыл бұрын
My pops always told me centerless grinding is dangerous. Now I know all grinding is. Those wheels are like bombs if mistreated. Stay safe
@jeremy12ga262 жыл бұрын
Absolutely those wheels violently explode say if you accidentally feed a part through that skipped a run somehow. They’re also huge, easily 4-5 times the size of the one shown in the video and there’s two of them per machine.
@thatsinteresting88102 жыл бұрын
Do you know if the price for a drill bit thing made of diamonds is significantly more expensive then one not made of them
@chuchonchuchon76402 жыл бұрын
In my old shop we would make all types of gauges, including thread plug and thread ring gauges. It was all done on old Matrix machines, all manual. We would use cams in a dressing box that would let us dress threads in to our grinding wheel
@diditwork3702 жыл бұрын
The most impressive part of this video is that a team somewhere actually engineered such an accurate machine
@diditwork3702 жыл бұрын
@@xgumsgnag3525 Yah I used to work on a Sodick and I could not believe how heavy the machine was.
@john0509942 жыл бұрын
What's crazier than that is when you think about how a long time ago, a man made a tool that was more accurate than his first tool, with his first tool. And then used that new tool to make a better one. Throughout human history this process of making tools to make better tools has lead to these crazy machines and it will continue far beyond our time.
@nikkiread53152 жыл бұрын
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@benston102 жыл бұрын
@@xgumsgnag3525 elb and amada are even more precise..blohm are very robust and fast for high volume production.. but nothing comes close to elb or amada for precision
@mattcyr33422 жыл бұрын
As a toolmaker, I appreciate all the grinding stuff. Many hours spent dressing radiuses grooves and compound radius' Awesome!
@s0ak1tncider2 жыл бұрын
Company I work for make diamond abrasive form wheels. You wouldn't believe the forms we have had to machine. Most are direct contact wheels rather than forming an aluminum oxide wheel. Many times we have had to modify a tool or insert to have clearance down in the form. We do two different processes depending on application use. One is electroplating diamond onto the wheel using nickel bond. The other is using resign/nickel & furnace to bond the diamond.
@apaksulak66642 жыл бұрын
I've been a precision surface grinder operator for 5 years and all I can say is it is one of the most precise and intricate type of machining. You can cut up to half of a micron 0.0005 and the tolerance of the parts we are making are always close to +-0.01mm
@markusk.4882 жыл бұрын
01:03 I'm from Tyrol, Austria and this makes me proud that something made here in my area gets used worldwide 😍👏
@seanriopel31322 жыл бұрын
Bet you don't feel that way about everything that came fron your country. 😉 Ich beziehe mich auf diesen schrecklichen kleinen Künstler.
@reallyiffy2 жыл бұрын
Jesus dude, this guy is just proud of his local industry.
@seanriopel31322 жыл бұрын
@@reallyiffy it's just the way he said it. There is something about Austrians and their damn pride and Ego. Frued, Schwarzenegger, Mozart, Hitler. The first guy essentially created the concept of ego. The last nearly destroyed the world because of it. Besides relax, it was just a joke. Your telling me to relax when you're the one getting all upset at a joke.
@jacobschimmel58752 жыл бұрын
@@seanriopel3132 lmaooo 🤣
@seanriopel31322 жыл бұрын
@@jacobschimmel5875 uh thank you very much.
@unaffected_covid2 жыл бұрын
I grind a plethora of ceramics with different styles of diamond impregnated tools as well as resin bonded tools. It's a lot different than machining with endmills and face mills. I've learned that regular dressing is key to success when CNC machining with grinding wheels. This machine here is amazing. I would love to get my hands on one of these bad boys. Looking forward to more content in this regard. 👌🏾
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! this machine really is amazing. It makes life a lot easier. There is definitely an art to grinding just like conventional machining.
@unaffected_covid2 жыл бұрын
@@Jessie_Smith If you don't mind me asking a few questions: What is the year, make, and model of that beauty? What CAD/CAM software is being used to program it? Are you using a generic post processor or do you all make your own? I'm interested in knowing... thanks.
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
@@unaffected_covid This is a Blohm Planomat XT built in 2021. For programming you will mainly use the conversational program on the machine which is super intuitive. The part in this video was programmed completely on the machine including the dressing of the wheel. If you don't use a roll dresser and use a disk dresser instead then Blohm sells a CAM software called Grips Profile that writes the program to dress the wheel with whatever shape you want. They also sell Vector but I think they mainly use it for the CAD side. Or you can import a .DXF into grips for the shape of your wheel, apply toolpath and post the code then put it directly in the machine and use that code as a subprogram for initial dressing and then re-dressing of the wheel as needed. I will do a video on that in the future for sure but it all is super simple.
@unaffected_covid2 жыл бұрын
@@Jessie_Smith Would it be using macros in that particular event?
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
@@unaffected_covid Yes I believe that is how they wrote all the logic for the canned cycles. It is using macros in the background. The control is a Siemens but Blohm has put their interface on top of it. So you program, set work offsets, wheel data all that on the Blohm side but it is actually writing everything to the Siemens side and running it there in the background.
@marchanson7112 жыл бұрын
In my studies, I am finding that grinding is capturing my interest much more than 5 to 9 axis machining, along with metal additive manufacturing technology. It will be interesting to see how graphene and diamond work together in the future.
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
Grinding is definitely a whole new world and presents it's own unique challenges. There is a lot to consider and a whole science behind it and that makes it just as fun as any other machining process. I am looking forward to more projects with this machine in the future!
@rhindy68462 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you. I used to work the manual cylindrical grinder for grinding shafts and it was soul destroying when you had a 1000 different diameters to grind. When I see these videos it just shows how cheap my old company was.
@noeljochum2 жыл бұрын
It's the future🔥
@richardglaser79122 жыл бұрын
I just started as a surface grinder in a tool room and I'm loving it. I had no idea the things you can do with a grinder. It really is a whole new world and fun as well.
@Siouxperman2 жыл бұрын
Graphene materials are much more likely to clog down machinery at higher rates.
@Gary-ii8jo8 ай бұрын
That is Awesome. the technology has inproved so much. I was a tool grinder for 35 years. Also ran a EDM Sinker and ground all my Graphite. Plus tons of Cabide. But this technology is Awesome
@OTGBob2 жыл бұрын
An ancient technology taken to a level that is absolutely amazing. Beautiful work.
@randywl89252 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered how grinding stones can have such precision..... repeatable precision. You guys are incredible for the absolutely fantastic education that you are providing. For me personally, it's entertainment, but for budding machinists, this has to be the ultimate Hotel Texas..... ...you can check in any time you want..... ....but you can never leave. 😁 I'm just saying this is got to be hypnotic to a brain ready to learn machining at an industrial scale. Bravo Titan!
@bill46392 жыл бұрын
Glad you guys are finally getting into grinding. This operation would be GREAT for making lathe chucks. I would love to buy a lathe chuck from you guys.
@meandthemrs74032 жыл бұрын
I've been a toolmaker/machinist since 1984 and never thought I would see dressing and grinding like this.
@HEATRACER242 жыл бұрын
Things have advanced so much since I took machining classes back in 07 and 08.
@WarpFactor9992 жыл бұрын
This is outstanding! Precision grinding with this machine is nothing short of a work of art. The fact that it has autobalance and internal self dressing put's it in the Bentley class of machine tools.
@valentijnraw2 жыл бұрын
every cnc grinder can do this..
@WarpFactor9992 жыл бұрын
@@valentijnraw Shows how long it's been since I played with CNC grinders....sigh...
@drewonu12 жыл бұрын
i always did like setting up a creep feed, didnt know i was learning setups at the time. Very fun machines.
@FrederikP1et2 жыл бұрын
I love this man's accent, they way he says "depth of cut" just hits me.
@mackk1232 жыл бұрын
God Bless America
@Skyblue-p7h2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Woking on turbine blades root form years ago. Two grinding wheels used to grind forms on both side same time.
@KnifemakerKinetic2 жыл бұрын
Super Video, thanks for posting. Let everybody know what grinders can do!
@GAS.M32 жыл бұрын
What's the liquid they use to help with cutting?
@flaplaya2 жыл бұрын
Pretty amazing I didn't know grinding wheels could be dressed to specific shapes/thread pitch. Awesome stuff 👏
@jonomano39922 жыл бұрын
I used to do maintenance on these style of machines for a glass company. The scale that dries on these things snapped one of my steel scrapers, resorted to sharpening a 5 in 1 thick tool steel steel to use instead.
@fg7862 жыл бұрын
That reverse plated roll even has CVD diamond edge protection. Is the roll from Tyrolit too or from Dr. Kaiser or home made by CDT USA?
@michaelbeckelheimer28502 жыл бұрын
Hello I am a CNC roll thread machinist, flat Die and cylindrical. It's very difficult to find much information on the processes used to manufacture roll threading dies. Ive even asked to tour the plant where we purchase most of our dies from and we get the same response every time, "sorry proprietary". LOL I'm guessing the process looks similar to what you are doing in this video. Have you ever seen or heard anything about the manufacturing process of cylindrical and flat dies for rollthreading? The cylindrical dies are definitely ground cpm4 they come in at about a 62 on the Rockwell, it's pretty incredible.
@saram95902 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of the process Jessie! Thank you for another awesome video! - Community Coordinator Titans of CNC
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sara!
@beachboardfan95442 жыл бұрын
Woah woah woah, how does that auto balance work!?!? Whats it doing/changing to balance it?
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
It has an acoustic sensor that listens for the vibrations, as it detects vibrations it will automatically adjust the weights in the spindle to balance it out.
@beachboardfan95442 жыл бұрын
@@Jessie_Smith How does it auto adjust the weights while spinning?
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
@@beachboardfan9544 sorry that was incorrect. There are actually 2 roll pins that are located internally which rotate on its axis to balance the wheel
@beachboardfan95442 жыл бұрын
@@Jessie_Smith Damn you guys aught to make videos about mechanical magic things like that! You guys just say machines do X, and blow past how, but the how is the most interesting part!
@tallbrian1002 жыл бұрын
Worked at a shop that had those bohm grinders, they took then out and scrapped them and went to milling. They were doing stainless castings.
@Mr30friends2 жыл бұрын
So, is the diamond infused wheel that dresses the grinding wheel a permanent feature of the machine? Or do you have various wheels with different profiles and swap them out? Also, since new cut profiles need a new grinding wheel and a new dressing wheel then who and what makes the dressing wheel profile? The whole thing seems to make sense only if you have a huge production at hand, cause I imagine that the dressing wheel is custom ordered and probably expensive as hell. Am I getting something wrong?
@Buciasda332 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong. I'm sure the diamond infused wheel is custom made. I'm sure they have a large order for such parts. If it wore a single order or something like that they would have used the single point diamond to dress the grinding wheel. Everything in this video must be crazy expensive. The grinding machine itself was millions and it must pay for itself in 2-3 years.
@CatNolara2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those dressing wheels are custom made for the specific profile. There are also rotary dressers with two dish shaped wheels that are more universal, you can move the grinding wheel along those wheels (one for each side) to create your desired profile.
@Irnmadn332 жыл бұрын
@@CatNolara I run a Gleason TAG 400 gear grinder with a Fassler double diamond wheel dresser. I wish i had a roll form dresser instead, but doing production runs of 14 parts or less is not cost effective.
@youngapologist27892 жыл бұрын
We use this same process at GE Transportation to cut the serrations in the connecting rods for our locomotive engines.
@nathansnow2 жыл бұрын
Nice! 🤩 Now for the part B... the male to that female... The invisible join It would really showcase the benefits of grinding and regular wheel dressing
@kdenyer12 жыл бұрын
Spent a lot of time balancing wheels. Just pressing a button is amazing 🤩
@mr.bulldobs43372 жыл бұрын
For some reason this is very impressive to me. Thank you for these educational and at the same time beautiful videos!
@toddstewart99222 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I guess the big cost would be the diamond wheel with the profile on it. It would be worth it though if you had to make a bunch of parts.
@joem93802 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Reminds me of grinding bearing races - almost the same process. Very precise.
@okloopy2 жыл бұрын
Any problems with grinder burn? I’m more familiar with grinding spur, helical, and spiral bevel teeth profiles to similar tolerances.
@samfarr16652 жыл бұрын
That is a truly amazing toy with gorgeous results. I'm intrigued for sure
@JH-zo5gk Жыл бұрын
The only way to 1 up this is to 5 axis the engraving tool, so it's always perpendicular to the surface. Could maybe get away with 4 axis. This is quite amazing
@matwey9672 жыл бұрын
How are those bearings holding up with all those grinding particles from the grinding wheel?
@raritica84092 жыл бұрын
With water involved. Not bad
@matwey9672 жыл бұрын
@@raritica8409 how the water helps it, if it is already in the engine?
@raritica84092 жыл бұрын
@@matwey967 The water keeps the dust from grinding low, and makes grinding easier. I think that's how it works.
@matwey9672 жыл бұрын
@@raritica8409 The hole where they put those injectors back in, is laped/grinded as well, and it is inside the engine itself, i dont mean those injectors that they lap outside the engine... As example If i do lapping of the valves on the Motor head of a my car or anybody else, after i finished, i thorely clean it, so not a single particel of the grindign paste gets inside the the engine, because it gone be catastrophic for the engine 🤷♂️.... But i dont know, maybe those big ship engines dong give a shit what dirt they get inside😅
@raritica84092 жыл бұрын
@@matwey967 oh I see what you mean. I'm sure some engineer somewhere figured it out
@ambydaly57132 жыл бұрын
Basically I first saw this technique, although not a full form at Hoffman bearing manufacturing, when producing ball bearings in the 1950s. They used an automated centerless grinding section. After the balls where cold headed, rough ground using anuller groved lapping machines (extremely noisy) heat treatment, and then on to the grinders. Automatic dressing of the wheels and conveyor system from grinder to grinder. Inspection was by eye using a Matt paper tray with white light above. With that set up the mirror finish looked Matt. Any blemishes could be spotted by the operator. They were only allowed 30minutes on . Then a break, then back, and so on through the day because of the eye strain plus a limited amount of actual hours before stopping and another operator taking over.
@sandrameyers40562 жыл бұрын
amazing! This is simply amazing!
@MrRondron2 жыл бұрын
First of may i beginn my work as grinder. Have to learn from scratch
@ambydaly57132 жыл бұрын
Excellent technique
@greglaroche17532 жыл бұрын
The future is here. Thanks for an interesting and informative video.
@daleglass73492 жыл бұрын
What is the cost of doing it that way? You lose a bit of the wheel every time you do this, and the wheel is probably not cheap. How many parts could you make before you need a new wheel?
@nicholaszivkovic13122 жыл бұрын
He said he takes 8 thousands of when dressing and does that every 1/4" so that's 1 inch of grinding wheel removed for every 31.25 inches of material
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
It depends on what material you are grinding, how much material you have to remove and how long the part is. This is something you would need to play with the process to fine tune but the wheel will last a good while. The wheels come with different grits and other factors that could extend tool life as well. Here I am re-dressing .008" off each time but that is not exact, you may take more or less depending on what you are doing. The wheel starts out at 16" diameter and it has a 5" hole in the center so you can take a lot of material off this wheel before you need to replace it.
@jonaskung44122 жыл бұрын
I asume around 500 dollars a wheel
@lou179082 жыл бұрын
@@jonaskung4412 its around 250 if you only buy one
@imtired80042 жыл бұрын
Depends on the material the parts are made of, were I work we make pretty small parts that aren't terribly hard and we get thousands of parts out of a big wheel like that one
@Mobin922 жыл бұрын
Is the shape of the grooves like for a custom product? I'm not sure which part of the machine is a general purpose tool, and which are specifically made to create that shape.
@samuelwragg86152 жыл бұрын
Excellent. thanks for another informative video. This may be useful to you or not. Magnets can have a habit of letting go. With this in mind I generally put flat plate stops at the front and behind the workpiece to prevent "creep". I hope you see this as constructive feedback
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info. I did place a flat plate behind the part in my previous video but this one being 3" wide and 8" long I felt like it had enough surface contact to hold without the flat plate. I did want to go ahead and put it anyway but I was afraid the wheel would hit it since it was getting so close to the table in order to create the arc. Thanks for the info though. I always welcome feedback and extra knowledge when I can get it!
@jasonaldenhaley12 жыл бұрын
yup. for thin stuff, i cut a few inch piece off of the steel banding (in the scrap barrel) that was holding our stock together from our supplier. REALLY THIN?!? Farm it to these guys....HA HA!!!!
@isaiahjohnson25322 жыл бұрын
I grind load runner wheels every week on an Okuma grinder. Can’t beat a good grinder when it comes to precision and surface finish.
@trevor65122 жыл бұрын
Love the videos ive been watching every day for the last 2 weeks great content!
@trevorgoforth89632 жыл бұрын
From one Trevor to another, thanks for watching!
@janes-e3782 жыл бұрын
Amazing machine,I wish I got taught a trade like this..Good on ya 👏 👌 💯
@vandewallede2 жыл бұрын
This machine is amazing … So what’s the advantage of creep feed grinding versus the more traditional method of many more faster light passes? Do you just end up with a higher MRR this way?
@UnitedGrinding2 жыл бұрын
One of the main advantages of creep feed grinding is to achieve higher MRR.[Material Removal Rate]
@StefsEngineering2 жыл бұрын
That is just awesome. Those parts are a piece of art, wouldn't mind having those on my desk!
@robertprice21082 жыл бұрын
Man wish i would have been in a machine shop when i was younger to guys are just having way to much fun. Lol. That is awesome an really bad ass. Thanks for sharing an stay safe guys
@dakotamyers51542 жыл бұрын
I work with hardened D2 tool steel around 62 Rockwell and it would be awesome to see that machine make something beautiful out that end mill destroying metal
@josha96202 жыл бұрын
Really cool video before this video series I had no idea this could be done!! Thanks for sharing!!! And like I always say when commenting on Barry’s videos I am so jealous of you guys working at titans of cnc. Titan should open a shop in Canada Cambridge Ontario to be exact. If he does I would be the first to apply for that job!!! Hahah not likely that would ever happen! Anyways thumbs up guys y’all kick ass!!!!
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support! Yes we are very fortunate to have been chosen to work for Titan and help change the industry! You never know man, you could be the next Titan! I certainly never thought I would be fortunate enough to be here but here I am!
@crisrose97072 жыл бұрын
I love this: Use Diamonds to cut a hard stone then use the hard stone to cut steel...
@AngDavies2 жыл бұрын
Reason being that diamonds are made of carbon. At high temperatures like in machining Carbon dissolves in iron (that's how you get steel) so diamond tools wear out incredibly quickly when machining it. It's the Achilles heel of diamond tooling- can cut everything except steel (and a few other metals that behave similarly).
@crisrose97072 жыл бұрын
@@AngDavies aahhhhhh that make sense and is pretty cool! Thanks for explaining!
@merouanebenderradji15822 жыл бұрын
Awesome video @Jessie Smith I really appreciates the efforts you are doing for us, I have a question can you add the rebalance feature in the code itself so that it will grind, redress and rebalance automatically ?
@Gottenhimfella Жыл бұрын
My impression is that the wheel needs to be rebalanced only when it is refitted after having been removed. I think from then on dressing is enough, unless you're grinding something dead fussy, like optical flats or somesuch.
@666monster82 жыл бұрын
I use to use identical mirror profile to dial in overhead from front point to back
@bruce85652 жыл бұрын
You guys should try a grinder with a continuous dress. Talk about a beast!
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
that would be awesome. We actually talked about that yesterday. Maybe we can get one in the future!
@pliashmuldba2 жыл бұрын
Thats something else than the old TOS cylindrical grinder i ran for a few years.
@johnd93572 жыл бұрын
Does dressing the wheel change the dimensions at all? If so, how do you account for that change in wheel size when producing the final part?
@MrMorbitron2 жыл бұрын
Yes, every dressing takes the diameter of the wheel down a known amount. It's accounted for in the programming and adjusted on the fly with tool wear offsets
@ClappedOut2 жыл бұрын
Do the particles in the swarf also stick to the magnetic bed? And does it cause any problems if it builds up?
@Sebastian-ed5kt2 жыл бұрын
if you look closely you can see black stuff on the bed, that's the swarf it will accumulate at the edges of the part if you run with low pressure coolant but if the pressure is high enough you won't have that problem and the swarf with be left at one end of the bed and in the filters
@rhindy68462 жыл бұрын
Yes the swarf sticks ti the magnetic base that's what the grey dust is? Surprised you didn't know that. I am not having a go at you but If you haven't seen that before you wouldn't know.
@ClappedOut2 жыл бұрын
@@rhindy6846 I figured that's what the grey dust was, but I thought it would have caused more problems. I guess I didn't quit understand what the high pressure coolant was for and how effective it was at evacuating the swarf.
@pirateskeleton78282 жыл бұрын
How many of those grooved pieces could you theoretically grind before having to replace the grinding wheel?
@rayp.4542 жыл бұрын
Man you guys have really stepped up your abilities. Thanks for the videos!
@swikocki2 жыл бұрын
Impressive, I'm looking forward to seeing some hardened materials ground.
@lol99452 жыл бұрын
I work at an abrasive factory it’s interesting to see similar products to what i make in action
@h3avym3tals692 жыл бұрын
I just bought a wheel dresser last week. I had no idea they even existed. Now I can get more out of my grinding rocks theoretically. We'll see😂
@Cubic52 жыл бұрын
This is so good I just kept on waiting for the April Fool.
@p.keditzz4323 Жыл бұрын
Kindly Suggest the Cutting Parameters and the Wheel Grade for forming similar type of Serrations
@MetrologyEngineer2 жыл бұрын
What does the machine actually do to balance the wheel?
@edthurber62652 жыл бұрын
Do you have to account for the constantly changing wheel diameter in the program?
@Kurth_Engineering2 жыл бұрын
Its corrected automatically so no
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
No you don't. You can store wheel data for each wheel you put on the machine. When you create a new wheel, you tell it what diameter it is. So each time it dresses the wheel it will automatically reduce the amount you dress from the diameter of the wheel. It will compensate the shape as well as the surface footage. Additionally, in the canned cycle for the profile it has a "radius adjustment" so if you make the first part and the outside radius was off you could tell it in the canned cycle how much to adjust and then every part after that will come out perfect.
@lynmichael86172 жыл бұрын
Interesting 🤔 very effective and efficient!!
@tobywilliam35382 жыл бұрын
Man that's awsome so clean Just a question because I don't know can you not use the diamond impregnated tool to cut/grind the 4140 block? or does it not work like that cheers
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
a diamond wheel would be used for extremely hard materials. Like grinding carbide. but for softer materials these type of wheels are generally used.
@BrilliantDesignOnline2 жыл бұрын
So where do these custom dressing wheels come from(Later I read down the comments the Grips Profile)? How are THEY made? Seems like grinding a precision dressing wheel would be quite a chore, and require some serious hardness to grind the diamonds in the dressing disk.
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
There are different manufacturers for them. They actually turn them on a lathe, getting the profile to spec then they have a proprietary process where they imbed the diamonds around it once it is finished on the lathe.
@BrilliantDesignOnline2 жыл бұрын
@@Jessie_Smith Thank you. Please more on the whole process.
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
@@BrilliantDesignOnline We will for sure be showing even more capabilities with this machine in the future. I can't wait to get started on them
@rhindy68462 жыл бұрын
Jesse love watching your videos and yiu give great Insight to machining. Wish I had titans team when I was learning my apprenticeship I could have been able to a whole lot more. Keep up the great work you are showing me things I thought weren't possible. Great work Jesse
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thank you for the kind words!
@Nelson-sr2bi2 жыл бұрын
@@Jessie_Smith where's your accent from?
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
@@Nelson-sr2bi I am from Mississippi.
@brianroby82142 жыл бұрын
Problem I see is the cost and time required to produce the specific Diamond dresser required for each profile. For a high value one off job, time and cost is probably worth it, but for many parts, I bet the cost justification would be not worth it. Also, how do you take into account wear on the profile dressing wheel? Damn fine machine for sure, but like everything in machining, it has its plus and minus sides.
@Bowsarge2 жыл бұрын
So, every time you need a special shape you need to have a nee wheel designed for it. Like if you want deep, thin grooves you'd need a different wheel. Or wide shallow grooves. It doesn't seem cost efficient unless you consistently work with things that require the same designs and specifications.
@kai.052 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, it's also possible to manually machine in many types of grooves for a grinding wheel by using a diamond cutter in a lather configuration. That way, you can machine multiple types of shapes without having to create a new tool every time.
@Bowsarge2 жыл бұрын
@@kai.05 Not your fault, but for some reason, reading your reply really hurt my head. Probably need more sleep if I had to guess. But if I read that correctly, then for more specific shapes and designs you can manually adjust them, but at that point aren't there other machines that you could use for that project? I am just an auto mechanic, so this isn't my field of expertise. To me, this is like how one place I worked had an oil vacuum to drain cars. I found it a little redundant that I had to hook up this vacuum through the dipstick when I had to get under the vehicle to replace the oil filter right next to the drain plug. It had it's uses for vehicles with filters up top, but that wasn't terribly common. At least not in our shop.
@kai.052 жыл бұрын
@@Bowsarge my explanation wasn't the best haha. I'm not an expert in this field either, but in another one of their videos, a machinist used a diamond cutting tool with the grinding wheel in a lathe to resurface the wheel. I'm assuming that you could machine grooves into the wheel with a similar technique, just by moving the diamond cutting tool in the path of the desired shape. Just like with other lathes. Also, Mercedes are dumb, so of course they need a pump. Why not over engineer your cars too? I have my mechanics cert too, though I don't work in an autoshop.
@Bowsarge2 жыл бұрын
@@kai.05 But that is still time you'd have to dedicate to making a new wheel instead of doing the work itself. If you only need a part cut in that way, it wouldn't be worth the time. My main point is that it is aimed more at mass production rather than doing small one time projects. Then again, I don't know what type of shop this guy works for because I just got algorithmed to this video. Luckily I don't deal with to many Mercedes, and what few I do have been able to be drained from underneath. But I usually prefer to use the oil vac for Mercedes because the filter is usually up top.
@kai.052 жыл бұрын
@@Bowsarge you aren't wrong, the only time it'd really make sense is if you are needing 4 or 5 of the same parts made, or you need that particular finish. Also, I haven't watched many of their videos, but from what I can tell, they do custom CNC commission from individuals and major clients as well. I haven't gotten to work on a Mercedes yet, but I think that might be a good thing...
@gabrielbrown12622 жыл бұрын
Does the machine figure out the grinder is slightly smaller after being redressed and position the grinder closer to the piece each redress?
@cyber25262 жыл бұрын
Am gonna be uploading videos from internship on my account to hopefully inspire some peeps to push the limits
@projectdiy9852 жыл бұрын
Love your accent bro !!!
@mandrakejake2 жыл бұрын
Could you have made that cut helical (like a thread) with that grinding machine?
@Lesiu_u2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's how super precise ball screws are made.
@leonelandrade69712 жыл бұрын
Interesting process. I'm curious, how does the part not move while being ground? Couldn't see any clamps of an sort
@vasiliymedvedev15322 жыл бұрын
Magnetic
@leonelandrade69712 жыл бұрын
@@vasiliymedvedev1532 thank you
@andrewbeaton33022 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!
@mbalentine7812 жыл бұрын
Is there a video where you address cost and resources to produce the dressing tool? I suspect the overhead of this cost will significantly affect cost of finished part, especially for short runs. Are there low cost alternatives for very short run prototype work?
@ignacioaguirrenoguez6218 Жыл бұрын
For grinding, you would need to dress the wheel with a single diamond cutter
@85CEKR2 жыл бұрын
Is thank rotary dressing tool something you make? How do you get specific shapes otherwise? We make some grinding wheels for a customer that makes skate sharpeners and it looks similar(metal part turned on a lathe with a diamond coating on top)
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right. These dressers are made the same way. Turned on a lathe then diamonds are impregnated afterwards.
@EViLLennY2 жыл бұрын
Definitely neat brother
@bennufckemp2 жыл бұрын
Is dressing the wheel worth it for just one part? How much are these wheels??
@blacklisted48852 жыл бұрын
knife making super tool
@svenboelling52512 жыл бұрын
Oh, my God. 25+ years ago I had to transfer the profiles on the grinding wheel with a template and pay attention to how the diamond is guided. Incredible what has developed in this area.
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
Technology has really come a long way in a short period of time. I can't imagine where it will go next. Blohm has thought of everything with this machine. It's amazing how simple they have made it
@svenboelling52512 жыл бұрын
@@Jessie_Smith In my mind, in the future, it looks like we’re going to lose skills and knowledge. Almost as it is probably the case with regard to the pyramids or other buildings that were possible thousands of years ago. With every new technology, with every machine, we lose some skills. Let's lose some basic knowledge. I was a toolmaker at the time and years later I had also learned to be a technical draftsman. (translated from german to English, no idea if it is correct) I had to learn the basics on the drawing board and also on the PC with CAD software. But one thing is clear, I would never have been able to do what they did back then with pen and paper. Later I was able to do magic with CAD/CAM software, but without it I would be completely helpless and that makes me think. I'm more of a philosopher anyway and I like to think and the point is, with all this technology, the craftsman, the normal worker, loses more and more power and becomes a tool. You only have to think of the rocket that led to the moon landing, it can no longer be manufactured because these craftsmen no longer exist. The skills and their knowledge have been lost. However, as my master at the time said, dexterity is important, I held the file in my hand for a year. And all the other primitive options had helped, too. I could never have made the part that you made there, unless I had previously built a device that would have enabled me to rotate the part. with stationary grinding wheel. Normally it would have been die-sinked and then polished by hand. Anyway... :D I would like it if now and then something complicated just for fun had to be done with minimal possibilities. Most designers would fail with pen and paper and probably throw themselves out if they were forced to make the shit they designed themselves. That's the price of too much specialization.
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
@@svenboelling5251 That is true. With every advancement in technology some skill is lost but new skills are developed. There is a ton of skill lost from manual machining to CNC machining but at the same time a whole different type of skill is formed. I guess it depends on which side of it you are on. On one hand, it has made it to where the operator no longer has to have a ton of knowledge but at the same time, someone had to write the macros and language to make it that simple.
@svenboelling52512 жыл бұрын
@@Jessie_Smith I'm probably one of those people who don't want to forget the basics. The core from which the rest grew. Either way, you need both. Without a seed there is no stem, no leaf, no flower and without them, no seed.
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
@@svenboelling5251 Very well said. I am the same way. Even though I've been in the trade 15 years and have made some super complex parts, I still watch videos on squaring a block and things like that. There is always something you can pick up on or some forgotten knowledge to relearn.
@tbrowniscool2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this guy should be selling me a pump action shotgun
@Jessie_Smith2 жыл бұрын
do you need some camoflauge to go with that shotgun?
@batmanhero20142 жыл бұрын
To check those high tolerances you should definitely be looking at a mitutoyo cmm. They are the most accurate product on the market
@TITANSofCNC2 жыл бұрын
That’s all we use
@earthybestbosses59992 жыл бұрын
Looks sick
@darrelstickler2 жыл бұрын
How is the dressing wheel formed to match the part profile?
@Gggg22g2 жыл бұрын
Install a rotary table and design fixtures and you can broaden your part machining capabilities
@tintruder2242 жыл бұрын
So the rotary dress tooling is job specific? On my Kellenberger, I used single point profile dressing to create various wheel shapes. I had a rotary dresser, but only for dressing diamond wheels used to make carbide parts. I'm curious as to the cost of your rotary dressing tools...is it even remotely economical for small quantity parts? (Various pitch threads, SAE, Metric, Acme, ballscrew etc in hardened shafts for example) Who makes the rotary dressing tools? Is each one custom? Or do they have a catalog?
@kylefolmsbee39222 жыл бұрын
On the kel-varia And kel-vita models I setup, I alternate using diamond rolls and single points. These special formed diamond rolls arrive to the shop ready to use, they are expensive to purchase and are only bought when needed depending on how complex the form is
@DragonwoodDesigns2 жыл бұрын
Is this also called "Crush Grinding"? Like for the roots of turbine blades?
@jacobbrea42042 жыл бұрын
how does the machine make up for the material lost every time the wheel is re-dressed?
@SWIM442 жыл бұрын
What would that piece of metal you grinded be used for?
@ypogeion2 жыл бұрын
What kind is this white-coloured cooling fluid???????
@mehmettemel87252 жыл бұрын
To justify the cost of a form dressing wheel like that is either you need it and put it on the job or high volume grinding as long as the customer is paying for it.As always you get what you pay for beautiful finish and accuracy.
@micheal3214562 жыл бұрын
How do you keep the metal in place electro magnet?