I know you had no way to tell but your opponent on round 3 was actually on Mono G Cloudpost, they're into_play, a dedicated Cloudpost player. They got pressured so hard by what the deck was doing that the Cloudpost part of the deck wasn't able to show up in time. Also I loved to see the deck in action, I'm a Hogaak player and one of the things I like the most about the deck is putting a ton of power into the board as early as turn 2, seeing a deck being able to do that while (almost) completely ignoring graveyard interaction is amazing! I'll definitely be trying it out.
@JimmyPage92083 жыл бұрын
Cool that someone else noticed it. I follow Tony and he is a great player. I really like his calm play style and am glad that he consistently does well with the deck, like his recent challenge win. I think him and the deck would benefit a lot from edited, straight to youtube, videos instead of just dumping the stream.
@rutasel67263 жыл бұрын
it would be super cool if he brought tony on for like a cloudpost stream/league :)
@EGarrett013 жыл бұрын
49:54 I like that you said your opponent's turn 1 play of island Preordain was scary then you put in 9-power worth of attackers on your own turn 1.
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
I mean...
@JuanGarcia-rg2sd3 жыл бұрын
Always happy to see a 5-0 in the title, even if it is slightly spoilery :P
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
I was happy to finally pick up a trophy. There have been SO MANY 4-1s recently that fell just short.
@LucksackGames3 жыл бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity Grats! Looking forward to watching.
@FineAndAndy3 жыл бұрын
This deck was really cool. At 43:49, I've been so conditioned by watching you always call plays ahead of time that I really thought we were about to watch that exact sequence of events play out. At the end you mentioned that this deck was sort of a glass cannon, but unlike, e.g., Belcher, it seems like you get to refire with very little wait time. Any Looting, Inquiry, Ravager, Ox, etc. seems like it ends up with multiple creatures in play from nothing. If I had to guess, playing this deck would lead to a lot of salty "nice topdeck"s in chat, when really it's just the way the deck is designed to operate.
@ekuude3 жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciate all the uploads recently! MH2 has injected so much fun into the game
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite periods of Magic EVER. It's been so fun testing all this new stuff.
@shhhvcnear3 жыл бұрын
You know the deck has that x factor when you get 10 power on turn one and crack a lions eye diamond for the discard only and dont even use the 3 mana from it xD
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
Lol, yeah, I think people need to counter LED every time vs this.
@impendio3 жыл бұрын
I think this has to be the fastest 5-0 league you’ve uploaded, damn this deck is strong…
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
The version with black might be even better...
@alliehjb.59273 жыл бұрын
Just like charbelcher is the peoples cannon, Phil is the peoples hero
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
I try! The people need vods!
@froiDchaT3 жыл бұрын
I thought in a meta with Endurance (sometimes main deck) and 4+ FoW effects main deck in UR delver or Bant control that this deck will struggle but seeing the 8 lizards in action (especially the new red one) it seems that it might be more resilient to such effects than I thought at first. I love those little critters :)
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think this deck is pretty darn resilient. It's harder to hate on than you might expect at first glance.
@Sir_Francis3 жыл бұрын
"I'm here to do the thing, & I did the thing" Cheers to that!
@georgecolby74883 жыл бұрын
Solid Iron Maiden impression in the opener. Nice. I think Kitchen imp is the mh2 madness creature you were thinking of in the deck tech.
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
That's one of the ones I had in mind!
@Toblakai773 жыл бұрын
like just for the Iron Maiden reference at the start
@MaxMckayful3 жыл бұрын
I always love the brand of wacky base Gruul decks seem to constantly support in eternal formats.
@QuentinColdman3 жыл бұрын
I really love seeing u play my list from the challenge. Thx 4 the video
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
I loved it! I'm not sure if the list is better with the imp and other black cards, but this general strategy is STRONG!
@QuentinColdman3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm still testing to find the best variant of the deck, but I love to see how much the deck is played atm
@lydia98223 жыл бұрын
I'd been thinking the madness deck had the legs to get there since we first saw blazing rootwalla, glad to see just how right I was, this deck is great!
@mountainwalk3 жыл бұрын
The little lizards that could. This deck looks awesome. Really interesting games Phil!
@aryabiss94453 жыл бұрын
Daily thrabenU serotonin incoming!
@jordanwoosley18613 жыл бұрын
This was sweet! I have Bosh and Roll streaming my Hogaak Hollowvine brew of mine soon.
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Brian has been doing great work. I watch a bit of his videos over lunch when I have time.
@Janshevik3 жыл бұрын
Glad you took this deck as bosh was too afraid or something, I remember he was destroyed by this deck on some of his videos.
@lucassbanks3 жыл бұрын
In an aggro deck Anger is a time walk .... well, kinda. Ok it's not but you get my point.
@TalenLee3 жыл бұрын
No avocado in the shot, immediately downvoted Good lord this deck is like throwing bottle rockets in your opponent's window. ... feels like you may have different opinions on anger
@danielwhite18903 жыл бұрын
Honestly only card I'd add is rite of initiation, its a t1 hand with just rootwalla effects and an anger
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that card is potentially strong.
@danielwhite18903 жыл бұрын
It's a line I used to run in a Cheerios list. 4 rootwalla, 1 anger, 1 rite, when your playing a deck that draws your whole deck in one turn pretty often it's a solid kill
@kyleucf3 жыл бұрын
Spicy.
@graefx2 жыл бұрын
The most dangerous phrases in the English language: "This seems good" "Siiiick"
@willjoyce50133 жыл бұрын
A fun counter to Tabernacle for decks like this is Gaea's Cradle out of the SB, lets you use 1 land to in essence blank Tabernacle
@nessearthbound31073 жыл бұрын
This deck looks so sick! I've never really wanted to play Legacy before but this deck really makes me want to lol
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
The format is a blast. Proxy some decks up and try it with a friend at some point!
@SirGrimLockSmithVIII3 жыл бұрын
Ah hell yeah I new Blazing Rootwalla would be sik in something.
@carrikmcnerlin17703 жыл бұрын
Instant thumbs up because you unlocked a Core Memory(tm) with the Maiden reference
@robinsvensen13243 жыл бұрын
LOVE the intro!
@idlemindedmage69253 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video! The deck seems like it had many little lizardy legs!
@UlfMTG3 жыл бұрын
You have to call this 8 Walla
@mattc27353 жыл бұрын
iron maiden cover channel when?
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmmmmm
@Generic423 жыл бұрын
I don’t play legacy, love watching your vids though. I’m slowly considering making a legacy deck and I blame you 😂
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
If nothing else, proxy up and the format with a friend! It's a blast!
@tomneilson95013 жыл бұрын
In honour of the other 8 decks in this fine game and the many species of lizards, I would like to start a petition to rename this deck 8-Lagac
@Windowlick_3 жыл бұрын
Seems like Foundation Breaker would be a good addition to the board in this deck since you can find it off of OUaT
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
I ran into that in a Modern league yesterday in a Living End deck. It caught me off guard.
@froggywoggy4733 жыл бұрын
Feels like masked vandal would be better just given the graveyard synergy? Not sure
@hugo.bonfatti3 жыл бұрын
LED... Good Magic card
@Moersfreak10 ай бұрын
I'm not really sure why this two year old video got recommended to me today (other than the fact that I watch A LOT of your videos), but I'm sure glad it did.
@ThrabenUniversity10 ай бұрын
That one was a BANGER and I still remember it.
@majormartintibor3 жыл бұрын
GG! Very fun deck!
@zga0423 жыл бұрын
The MH2 card is Kitchen Imp, 2/2 flying haste with madness for B
@billschlichting74333 жыл бұрын
Dammit Phil, just watched and then rushed to buy the cards to play this deck. With so many new cards and fun brews, I have no idea what I am going to try first.
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome? It's a good problem to have. MH2 Legacy is so fun. Recording with all these crazy brews has made my summer.
@matthewjoslin67773 жыл бұрын
8- Walla. Love it
@nicomillhouse2 жыл бұрын
LEDs allow so many decks, sweet
@ThrabenUniversity2 жыл бұрын
Oh, absolutely. It's the "broken thing" behind a ton of archetypes.
@ThePhysicalReaction2 жыл бұрын
The deck is the epitome of brute force
@ThrabenUniversity2 жыл бұрын
100% It's a true aggro deck in Legacy, which is rare.
@adamhofman74123 жыл бұрын
You sound like MagicAids, without overmemeing his voice :O
@adamhofman74123 жыл бұрын
hooray
@adamhofman74123 жыл бұрын
and you have similar thumbnail style thrabenu=magicaids - CONFIRMED
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
@@adamhofman7412 I respect the tin foil hat theories.
@Bloodywolf113 жыл бұрын
Madness?? This. Is. Lizards!
@releasethe013 жыл бұрын
Hogaak might be nice here once you add more black creatures
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
Vintage decks do exactly that!
@grizzlymanverneteil4443 Жыл бұрын
GET EM LIZARD
@koboldgeorge21403 жыл бұрын
This deck has SO many of my pet cards
@__loafy__3 жыл бұрын
Anger is cute
@willjoyce50133 жыл бұрын
34:50 why cast the Rootwalla with the Mountain over keeping up mana for say Daze if it was free anyway with the LED? Just worth considering to me lol
@Locustnism3 жыл бұрын
Other than LED most of the other cards are affordable on paper. Do you think there can be anyway around it in terms of replacing LED?
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
For a big tournament, I'd try to borrow them. For an FNN, you could replace it with another discard outlet and survive.
@froggywoggy4733 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason you didn't madness rootwalla on end step at 26:03? Not that it mattered but it didn't have to be summoning sick right?
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
There were two Vengevines in my graveyard. I wanted to play Rootwalla and Anje's Ravager in the same turn to bring them back.
@froggywoggy4733 жыл бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity Oh, of course! I missed the main line hahaha
@hardcoreeconomist10893 жыл бұрын
MH2 made MTG fun again where MH1 killed it
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@silverdeathgamer29073 жыл бұрын
Is it worth running a run afoul in the sideboard to deal with Marit lage and Emrakul or is the chance that you will end up discarding it mean it doesn't justify inclusion?
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
That's a solid option. I'm not sure if the deck needs it though. I think the plan against those decks is "kill them first."
@zacharyb27232 жыл бұрын
You said "if it was a tournament I wouldn't have gone all in" - why not? it still wins when they don't have swords. Definitely a flaw in many players games that they are too risk averse when playing high-risk high-impact decks - if the deck is a glass canon, you should be pushing risk to win faster. Sometimes you have to risk losing turn one because its the best overall play. refusing to take risks doesn't help you win more.
@ThrabenUniversity2 жыл бұрын
This deck doesn't have to be a glass cannon all the time though. You can grind out Vengevine recursion advantage over time, set up draw 3 turns with Anje's Ravager... there's more than just the linear beatdown here.
@alexgermack1973 жыл бұрын
Yeeting lizards into play
@jean-baptistedelabroise53913 жыл бұрын
hmm seems kinda doable in modern even if the loss of LED is quite a deal
@jean-baptistedelabroise53913 жыл бұрын
oh no it misses anger...
@DevoBlade3 жыл бұрын
Modern only had blazing rootwalla. You miss out on 4 extra lizards!
@coopervalentine213 жыл бұрын
Magus of the wheel, anger, diamond eye lion..
@coopervalentine213 жыл бұрын
Add graves tablet for recursion
@GatekeeperDatuck3 жыл бұрын
Wheel of Misfortune would probably be better than Magus, especially given how high the life totals are compared to the opponents'.
@nefola3 жыл бұрын
you could play brawn or wonder over anger if it seems weak
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
I think I'm more interested in trying the black madness cards next!
@parkerkoch81083 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if you are pronouncing it as a meme or not, but Anje is a German name and is pronounced "AHN-yuh". The vowel in "je" is pronounced like the "oo" in "foot" or "soot". :)
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
This was a cool bit of trivia. You're actually wrong according to WotC though: twitter.com/GavinVerhey/status/1169665952822120448
@parkerkoch81083 жыл бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity Huh. Today I learned I don't like Innistrad as much as I thought I did 🙃 Guess we were both wrong 😅
@CptManboobs2 жыл бұрын
Needs more Rootwallas
@olly1234513 жыл бұрын
Vintage Lizards with Bazaar and 8 Rootwallas? Seems very silly.
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure various Hogaak Vine decks like that are very good right now.
@olly1234513 жыл бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity I love this silly lizard, it seems so innocuous, then you tell people "yeah it's an 8 of in one of the best decks in a format where you can play Black Lotus".
@wheelchairedog2 жыл бұрын
at around 38:36 I don't understand how you can cast hollow one?! You discarded 2 cards, vengevine and blazing rootwalla. After having cast faithless looting, you don't have any mana available, so how can you cast hollow one with a fetchland without cracking it? If you only discarded 2 cards, shouldn't it still cost 1 mana? I'm new to magic* 😅
@ThrabenUniversity2 жыл бұрын
I tapped my fetchland using my opponent's Urborg ability to get the last mana.
@wheelchairedog2 жыл бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity oh i totally see now🥲 and feel stupid 😅. I will check the entire board next time I don‘t follow something… thank you a lot for your answer! :)
@DoKillaEnte3 жыл бұрын
hey when i am on a budget and i could only afford 1 taiga and 1 badlands which lands would you play instead of the 2 duals?
@ThrabenUniversity3 жыл бұрын
Shocklands, probably. The fastlands might be fine too.
@lorenzosbrilla3 жыл бұрын
Can we call it "8walla"?
@kurtgrgelwrx83763 жыл бұрын
I love all the nonsense MH2 has enabled Madness is easily one of the most fun things I've seen come out of it tho
@petergraf32343 жыл бұрын
Algorithm
@Tehcarp3 жыл бұрын
baleful strix can be destroyed by ancient grudge
@wolfgang44883 жыл бұрын
No offense but you said a little Sus and now im leaving.