THRANDUIL BEFORE THE HOBBIT?

[@Phobos_Nyx]

Man, I wish Peter Jackson made a film about Thranduil after he finished Hobbit. Lee Pace was born to play Thranduil, it was such a wasted potential back then.

[@shannajoy1821]

I'd LOVE to see this movie!!!

[@Whatidavail]

Yea I agree. He did great

[@LynxieLuv2]

I'd definitely watch!

[@MrStmalik]

And I want to see the movie for Bart

[@LynxieLuv2]

@MrStmalik You mean Bard? He did a great vampire movie called Dracula Untold. Worth watching.

[@anthony99900]

Man the wood elves are badass

[@InkandFantasy]

They’re awesome!

[@LynxieLuv2]

My favorite. Thranduil and Legolas

[@doigt6590]

except they're not. They get owned in the only big fight they have (and they're the only good guys to get into a one sided slaughter), wouldn't have left their woods if they knew goblins were on their way during the events of the Hobbit and they're so weak by the point of LOTR that they can't go help the neighboring realms during the siege of the north. They're also not as advanced as the other elven kingdoms (but are presumably less primitive than the avari if any remain). Out of all the elves, they're the most pathetic of them all.

[@anthony99900]

@@doigt6590most badass warrior comes from Mirkwood. Best archers in LOTR

[@doigt6590]

@@anthony99900 Best archers in LOTR come from Lothlorien with a special mention of Doriath for the unique case of Beleg Strongbow.

[@rhyswong8976]

In modern terms Thranduil has severe PTSD.

[@Usul-xp6ve]

yeah, like how he lost his wife too

[@AzulaFarum]

Thranduil is a really tragic character with severe PTSD and fantastically played by Lee Pace.

[@zherean42069]

Fun fact, lee pace is younger than orlando bloom, the actor who played his son!

[@historicallegends3702]

No he isnt

[@Hello-mx2yc]

@@historicallegends3702He is, 2 years younger than him

[@kai223noa6]

@@historicallegends3702 - Lee Pace was born in 1979. Orlando Bloom was born in 1977

[@michaellacuna]

Yes. Orlando was 25, and Lee was 23 when they started filming.

[@Phobos_Nyx]

@@michaellacuna Someone can't count. Orlando was 35 and Lee was 33.

[@BlindGuardian050]

The entire story would make such a good mmo if they had the right company doing it

[@Nauda999]

such company doesn't exist, all companies want quick and safe profits, not one will invest hundreds of millions into something that might end up flopping.

[@heramaaroricon4738]

There is already one. Lord of the Rings online

[@umbarus3216]

​@@heramaaroricon4738dead p2w game

[@TheJellymonty]

I would rather have a Thrandruil story than the one The Hunt for Gollum. I need to lust after Lee Pace once more.

[@Undomaranel]

You mean the fanfic they shut down and are now copy-pasting? Yeah, I didn't believe it either yet here we are.

[@billysanpidro]

His hatred towards the Dwarves rooted from the sack of Menegroth where Thingol and other Sindarin elves were killed by the Dwarves of Nogrod. With Cirdan, Galadriel and Celeborn, he's one of the few remaining oldies who made it through the battles against Morgoth and Sauron pre-Dol Guldur. Of all the elves alive in the Fourth Age, only Galadriel had the worse tragic backstory. Lol

[@nemanjap8768]

Galadriels back story - everyone died

[@FlyDinosaur]

​​​​@@nemanjap8768And even though she didn't technically die (I think), Galadriel also lost her daughter. Elrond's wife and her entourage were attacked on the road and she got so messed up they packed her up and sent her back to Valinor. And that at least partially informs why Elrond is so afriad to lose his only daughter. Neat. (Fun fact: that means Elrond's kids have Elf, Human, and Maiar in them. What a mix, lol.) At least she has a reason not to be in the story. I still wonder what happened to Thranduil's wife. But meh.

[@M24071]

Please address him by his proper title of The sexiest Elve in all middle earth

[@Hølløwguy-f7q]

Year, definitely better than ring of power elves

[@DUNGEØn_MOUSE]

He is so fucking gorgeous, i pray that they some day add a reunion between him and his son

[@dilloncrowe1018]

I wish they had delved more into Thranduil's backstory in the movies gives a better understanding to why Thranduil is the way he is. He faced Sauron's Armies, he witnessed his father and 2/3rds of his people slaughtered, and watched as over the next 3,000 years, his once great kingdom fell to sickness and dark creatures, further and further into decline. Thranduil isn't just a snooty Elf King, looking down his nose at the Dwarves, he's... worried, paranoid even. He's seen so many tragedies and hardships hit his people, his kingdom is a shell of it's former glory, if one more great tragedy should hit, like himself and his army killed, and a wrathfull dragon attacks Mirkwood, there will be nothing left.

[@Vmac1394]

Thranduil seems like an explanation of the notion that natural death is a gift from Eru to men. He's lived through thousands of years worth of traumatic events that you can never totally get over. Enough of that and there's just some sort of persistent weight upon the soul.

[@dilloncrowe1018]

@@Vmac1394 Exactly!

[@duss2847]

He also said in the Hobbit movie that he has felt the fire of the great serpents of the north. And his face was horribly burned but they add and cut stuff so much

[@InkandFantasy]

Yeah this was a movie addition. Still cool though!

[@LynxieLuv2]

Best scene ever! He's so iconic.

[@klausolekristiansen2960]

Tolkien's elves heal without scars.

[@Mojojojoe000]

@@klausolekristiansen2960flesh heal not bones the he left only a main bone His outer bone the soft one like you eat in chicken and beef it’s burn off.

[@tanjianforever]

​@klausolekristiansen2960 uh what? Not from Dragonfire. I don't know who told you that. Plenty of Elves have died from wounds. And many have been killed by dragons and their fire. I don't know who told you that. They are immortal and yet can die out of emotional reasons, what makes you think their bodies can't be scarred?

[@shorty4111]

Why is there no movie about thanduil???theres so many fans of the elv king😢😢

[@uhfanzonly]

Not an excuse but I can see why he was so Adamant of not sending his people out to fight another war away. from home. He lost 2/3rds of his people against Sauron the first time and didnʻt want to go through that again. Elves from what I understand have a hard time reproducing because of their long lives so losing thousands of your people is devastating and would take literally 100s of years to rebuild.

[@justacrystal567]

Another important aspect of Thranduil character, he was also one of the elf Lords, who did not have a ring. So he truly was left alone to defend his realm.

[@KAPatneaux]

I feel like people don’t mention that enough. Much respect to Thranduil and the wood elves for fighting for their realm alone

[@reneecrawford8311]

I love Lee with blonde hair

[@Eszra]

What I love is Lee Pace was younger then Orlando, but it still worked as Father and son! LOL Also after Lee's scenes were done he helped make props for the movie.

[@sageofcaledor8188]

Nice video. Man, he had a rough life. No wonder he was the way he was.

[@muffin1851]

A friend of mine had an fanfic idea about Thranduil's title of being the 'Elvenking'. He said that it was Lord Elrond of Rivendell that crowned/coronated Thranduil after the death of Gil-Gallad the last Highking of the Elves. And was witnessed by Lord Cirdan and Durin IV of Khazad-dum. Isildur wasn't there since he left with the Ring of Power. Lord Elrond knew that Thranduil and Isildur were good friends. That is why he decided to convince the other Lords of giving Thranduil the title of 'Elvenking'. Thranduil the 'Elvenking' was not swayed by Lord Elrond to go against Isildur and realizing that the campaign of 'Last Alliance' took too much of Everyone. Leading to the 'Angmar Conspiracy' involving Thranduil's wife (possibly an Avari Elf) and the Witch King's burial that requires a 'Powerful Spell/Curse'.

[@shorbao]

I appreciate these videos so much. Thanks for making them. Absolutely perfect especially in the short format

[@InkandFantasy]

Thank you for watching them! These comments make me incredibly happy, thank you!!

[@michaeljohnson7245]

A much better portrayal of elves than that shot show the rings of power

[@yeol174]

he actually was one of the better Kings Middle-Earth had…

[@henrikechers9995]

I want to know, about the dragon, and what happened to his face.... Lee Pace was just amazing

[@ShqipeKnocksMMA]

Thranduil should be a character in the Rings of power show

[@sunnyla2363]

He is my toxic crush! Lee pace made him look sooooo perfect

[@sakemp3480]

Had he and his father waited, they wouldn't have been slaughtered and became the bodies of the marsh. Ego made them not listen to Gil-Galad

[@AodhanBeag]

Lee Pace's eyebrows occupied half of his realm

[@Dtitilator]

Where was he during the fellowship of the ring? Wasn't he invited to the council?

[@mielproperty]

So he is the next high king ?

[@joseevaniersel7280]

The world should have seen much more of Pace. I'm afraid that sir Ian did Grinner Lee a great disservice by outing him so early in his career..There was very much more to Lee Pace than being a champion for social justice and woke queerulousness...

[@radiantlight2361]

I always wanted a movie about Thranduil

[@blacknerdygirlsrock]

The elves of middle earth gave birth to the Targaryens lol

[@Jo-Da-Ad]

You didn't mention his wife and the story about her which explains his scar

[@danyelpeter1376]

What are you talking about?He doesn't even have a scar in the books

[@danyelpeter1376]

And we know nothing about his wife except that she was an elf

[@World_of_Drama]

Nice Story. Eventhough this is all but a fairytale, i still appreciate the amount of time taken to research this and lay it in within 1 Minute of Short.

[@Thinkythinkerton]

It’s understandable and also unfortunate that movie fans think they saw the greatest battles and struggles in middle earth at the end of the third age. When, in fact, there were bigger conflicts like ever 2-3 hundred years for about 8000 years….

[@abelingaw5070]

His father was egotistical and won't submit to the command of Gilgalad, does dooming half of his men. If he would've waited, then maybe had a less casualty.

[@Hølløwguy-f7q]

In Lotr, evil is like a persistent weed. It do be growing but all you gotta do is snip snip every 2-3 weeks (age) and your good.

[@majinalastor5740]

after hearing this, it makes sense now why he was so "vain" I honestly thought he was just boasting with the firedrake part (with elvish bs of bitch im immortal i know better) but knowing he actually had fought against sauron. im giving him slack. he Has been thru some shit

[@ImOldGreggg]

That's what an Elf looks like in Tolkeins world. Not those weird West Hollywood looking dudes The Rings of Power has lol

[@coolkidd4754]

Where is Thranduil during the events of LOTR?

[@LynxieLuv2]

Luv Thranduil ❤

[@gdubskilla5708]

Gil Galad: Alright, wait for my signal! Silvan elves: We don’t give a F, man. Chaaarge!!

[@AlejandroGarcia-nh2vj]

What about the war with the dragons?

[@samsschool3639]

Its never stated but he was around when Gondolin was attacked by Glaurung

[@Finis.Terrae]

Thranduil was better Sauron than amazon's shitty one

[@chansermish2406]

Would it have been elves over populated since they do not die? They can produce like human but they dont age and die of old age. I get there is war but still

[@Rain-nw2vk]

Love him 😊

[@cambuxton6835]

Well, we know he faced a Northern dragon and won. But it cost him some of his real face…

[@mikec5916]

So many good stories to tell… but woke Amazon..

[@Shannon-f8w]

Thranduil is painfully attractive. His pissy attitude just makes it even better.

[@GEILTOY]

Please, let someone else to read Script! Awful Sound

[@nydarkfern]

Not going to talk about his burned face?

[@coolvlogs8650]

So cool 😊

[@justacrystal567]

The wood elves are definitely my favorite

[@xandermuhlestein4506]

What happened to hai face? Like at the one point in th second movie he looks orchish

[@wingchunkungfuwins]

Not mentioning any part of how he lost half his face

[@Sourdust-eo4oz]

Please learn to pronounce theses names correctly.

[@grantperkstv5302]

How’d his face get fucked up

[@paperkay]

So he was such an asshole because they caught him on a bad day?

[@WaldenLifeInTheWoods]

Didn't he fight against dragons in the first age?

[@dracopticon7788]

"Thrandu-i-l", not "Thrandull".

[@SMT729]

Lee Pace was made for this role.

[@tropical21qtpie]

When ppl ask me (as a pansexual) why/how androgyny is so attractive to me...Lee Pace as Thranduil, or Boy George PURRFECTLY encapsulate the visual beauty of my definition...just...W-O-W 🥹😍🤤🥵🔥🔥✨️

[@SharelGiovanaPutri]

what happened to him after the hobbit?

[@Greg-bh4jp]

I’ve wondered about after

[@ricardoortiz4870]

Ronan the Accuser before Guardians of the Galaxy.

[@LynxieLuv2]

Yes!

[@christianefiorito3204]

No I read the books.

[@YaninaEscorcia]

It's not just the hobbit, other books like the Silmarillion

[@UsefulIdiot77]

The most pretentious comment I’ve seen in a minute 😂

[@KiHert-b7d]

How did Thranduil get the scars he is hiding in the movie?

[@InkandFantasy]

Those were an invention of the movies, so there’s no book info unfortunately!

[@a_pleasant_lie7051]

Not everyone is meant to be king. He should have viewed his father and elven brothers as valiant heroes and have pride for their sacrifice. They literally saved Middle Earth from evil. Yet he allowed fear, doubt and guilt control him.

[@PlayNiceFolks]

NO, I HAVE NOT

[@ralphwoodruff]

Legolas’ mom is so pretty.

[@danyelpeter1376]

We don't even know her name how would we know what she looks like 💀

[@mercenary2975]

Frandul

[@SavageSamxV]

How’d he get burned by dragon fire?

[@Hemomancer]

Are there any records of elves slaying their fathers to get control of their kingdoms? You can’t just wait for your father to grow old and die if they are an elf.

[@InkandFantasy]

I don’t think there is! The kinslayings (killing of elves by elves) were very limited and specific and they were so important that they changed the course of elven history and the popular imagination of the elven people, so it’s not a thing that happened commonly and especially not for one’s own advancement in the royal hierarchy!

[@crystal768]

​@@InkandFantasygood thing cause im pretty sure after his father promised to free that orc then chopped his head off, then banned tauriel, legolas was ready to rebel 😆

[@evekurocieru]

​@@crystal768Tauriel isn't canon

[@PeacockRhino]

Maeglor betrays Gondolin in the Silmarillion that’s as close as it comes I think.

[@danyelpeter1376]

​@@PeacockRhino Yeah but his parents weren't even in Gondolin so that doesn't count at all

[@kaml5076]

Uhhhh so what about his scar? The red dragons?

[@coreystephenson7329]

Something with a dragon

[@isabellagaladrielg8526]

Wait what was that lol

[@Fox_sSspirit]

Dude had trauma 😅

[@renlysotherlover294]

Elves live too long

[@fekkakhasna5687]

اللهم صل و سلم و بارك و تحنن و ترحم على أحمد أو محمد و على نوح و على إسحاق و على إسماعيل و على إبراهيم و على سليمان و على داوود و على أيوب و على يوسف و على آلهم و أصحابهم أجمعين عدد خلقك و رضا نفسك و زنة عرشك و مداد كلماتك

[@foreverallah4018]

What the hell has this got to do with the subject at hand?

[@user-wl1zs8sl3p]

Trump is Saron.

[@prettybabey]

where do you find this stuff, its amazing