the main reason I do not understand the concepts of foundation & dune is, why the hell would the mashines need to enslave us? there are only 3 options. extinction, because there is a new better lifeform born from mashine evolution. the mashines are just tools for us the mashines serve a small group of elites to control the rest of the population.

Tolkein: Didn't like Dune or Narnia Miyazaki: Didn't like Lord of the rings Now I need to know about other authors that didn't like popular franchises

Really interesting video premise Sadly, it opens with AI images, so never mind. lol

Tolkien would have been in FSSPX change my mind

I think of Tolkien saying the responses in Latin by himself at least once every Mass 😂

Orthodox here. Wonderful video, thanks for sharing! I really appreciated the mustard seed metaphor-what a simple and effective way to describe the growth and development of the historic Church! ☦️

I attend the TLM and it is incredibly sacred and beautiful, a very different experience from the new Mass.

Tolkien was a devout Caholic, a very intelligent man, a great scholar and a brilliant linguist. Because of this he naturally questioned what was going on at Vatican Two. He realised not all was well. He realised that great harm might be being done to his beloved Church. Turns out all his fears were justified.

So idiocracy before idiocracy?

Because that Narnia stuff IS used superficially; its narrative cohesion is via Christian allegory.

Elon Musk has his mind onto the titans.....can you please,stand still senator and bringb 😊

Interesting when you live without Jesus Christ and Christianity. You are left with crude philosophy Mr. Butler... fantastic. And Dune just proofs God should exist. And he exists. Just ask him. He will answer. He is an gentleman.

Cooool.

Yesaaah.

Thsnky you.

Awesome.

If we consider the development of machines bending to the needs of the creator, it is not a surprise that someone drew the logical conclusion that machines may develop consciousness and how scary that development could be. If you think about it, the best to serve a human is another human, and as development and advancement is dictated by human needs, creating a human like machine would be the most a logical path. Meanwhile history showed us how it turns out when a group is forced into servitude. But regardless of that, it was still a brilliant observation from Butler, as maybe he was one of the first, or maybe the first to make that observation that seems kind of evident in hindsight. Altough the more humanity develops, the more we will see our limitations, so creating a machine with consciousness may be one of them.

Although I don't believe using the local languages in itself is a big issue, the complete restructuring of the novus ordo is as well as the subsequent destruction/reduction of the latin mass. Whether by design or not, it's factually clear that the Church post Vatican II has been faced with a plethora of serious issues not least of which is a dwindling congregation in the West.

Weren't they technically cousins?

Vatican II and its consequences have been a detriment to Catholocism

what was alven doing when aragon was an infant or a child?

I read Butler's book (it's on my shelf here too), but I didn't realize that the author was referring to this in Dune. Anyway, it's time to read it again. :)

A Disney ad played before the vid for me. 😅

i thought it was just because the robots acted like butlers before the war

I just found your channel I watch a lot of videos like this (in fact, most of my feed is content like this nowadays), and the one problem I have with them is that almost all of them don't have subtitles. I absolutely salute you for making that detail. Subbed.

Kinda ironic using AI slop for this video, uhm dumbass?

Interesting, as one could argue the same reasons Tolkien pined for the better of the past, could be exactly the same spirit or motivation why 'protestants' pine for the past of the time of the early church. Is he not doing exactly what he critiques protestants for? And does not inevtivaly demonstrate that the Spirit of God and truth, can be different to how the Church behaves and ministers? That in fact truth and His Spirit is the marker and the church ought to yield and repent if necessary. Is there an outside authority which is not necessarily aligned with the decisions the church makes? Do we appeal to an outside authority and not the authority of the church itself? Whilst the church obviously has authority, only when it is in subjection to the outside, unseen, spiritual authority What do you think?

Nice try Grima

presumably he'd met a few

Best use of AI images I've ever seen in a youtube video.

Very interesting. You should have also talked about how Butlers theory of consciousness involves genetic memeory, the building up of unconscious passed down memories over time. This was the central theme of the Dune books that everything revolved around.

Think I’ll just enjoy his movies and give his personal opinions a huge skip 🤷🏻‍♂

would a benevolent machine that makes sure we all live in comfort really be that much worse than the irrational and indifferent humans ones we already have?

"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal… Even in death I serve the Omnissiah." - Magos Dominus Reditus

We're so fucked.

Tolkien actually served in war and nearly didn’t come back so he is an authority on harder reality between the two. Is it any wonder his stories are darker.

Tolkien bothered by Latin no longer being used for the Eucharist is ironic… bruh, Jesus and the disciples didn’t even use it when they gave it…..

FF the name Tolkien is contained within the name Thorkelin who was the first translator of Beowulf. Cheers from Mercia

Does Foundation have a similar concept with their Spacers??? Can someone please explain

I’d never heard this before, and as a Catholic who disagrees with a lot of Vatican 2, what Tolkien wrote in this letter really resonates in my heart. Testing loyalty is the truest way of proving that I am indeed loyal to it, thank you Tolkien 🙏

this is so stupid

Everyone should have supported Franco.

Aragorn would have freed most of them..... But those Blue wizards were not letting them pass 😂

We need a punk band ''Tolkien hates everything'

This so stupid. I can't believe.

As a big Tolkien Fan and a Traditional Roman Catholic, you have got this exactly correct. My maternal grandfather's uncle was S. S. Pivs PP. XII, and I completely agree with you. This is an excellent and 100% correct video of Tolkien's beliefs. I just hope, Prof. Tolkien got the chance to continue going to the Traditional Mass, where it was still said with special Papal consent through the local Bishop. The Traditional Mass, which has never been stopped, was just limited to Epicopal consent with Papal permission until 2006. Of course, now you can go almost anywhere, in the United States and Europe and find a Roman Catholic Church where the Traditional Mass is still said. It's gotten a big resurgence since S. S. Benedictvs PP. XVI stated it was never abrogated and can be said if people express the wish to have it rather than the Mass of S. S. Pavlvs PP. VI. Surprisingly, the attendees are 80+ years old or 18-45 years old. The latter group being a huge surprise to the Church. They can't understand why the Traditional Mass was so strictly limited until S. S. Benedictvs PP. XVI brought it back more freely. I understand Tolkien's feelings as I speak and am fluent in 9 languages, including Latin. My grandfather's uncle S. S. Pivs PP. XII said, "The Day the Church abandons her Universal Tongue will be the Day before she returns to the Catacombs!" He was right. Thank you for this video. It's wonderful!! Dr. Gennaro Giammarino, III

Who the hell is Hayao Miyasaki?

Not really acquainted with Erewhon, but a thought occurred to me as you were quoting from it... that description fits surprisingly well with the Minds, in the Culture novels, by Iain M Banks... can't help wondering if Banks hadn't also been influenced by Erewhon in his writings.

The leaders of Great Revolt. Serena and Quentin Butler

The way the author describes the society and it's values reminds me a lot of the US today