Thrawn destroys 7 star Leviathan - works post buffs - swgoh - fleet counter guide

[@knavenformed9436]

Leviathan would've been sick enough as a journey fleet in the meta of exe/prof/levi rock paper scissors game. But their overhyping it as a game breaking unwinnable wall just screwed the whole thing up.

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Absolutely. In fact I'm happy, that the leviathan isn't as strong as they said. If I think back to the executer release... Damn what a painful time. But their communication and the very buggy release just made it feel bad.

[@nathanielmorgan3592]

Profound execution

[@wittster4189]

Thank you so much! Finally a strategy that actually works. Just a tip for your future videos. Leave the texts up a little longer. I had to either pause constantly or play at 75% speed to read them. Good luck with your channel!

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Thx for the advise :) And I'm glad it helps!

[@mosaic3414]

Great video! Very helpful for budget counters especially in GAC and TW..

[@Froschkoenig751]

Great video, I need to try this myself! (kind of sad that this would mean that in GAC one could no longer counter exe with Chimaera and Profu with tarkin, but anything that works is appreciated! My 6* Profu is not reliable anymore since the update)

[@revann_dowski]

Amazing, just amazing, thank you a lot

[@arisuaozora]

The only way EA gonna fix this is to release a lifter ship for levi. Maybe one that will give retribution buff

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

We will see. Cg can always add a little phrase to the kit like, attacks can't be evaded or something like that.

[@mastermichael0751]

Or enemy cap ship can’t gain bonus tm

[@marcwhite9234]

Great video

[@Xellius13]

Even easier now when they fixed the retarded mark 6 stacks damage. Now it goes down in like 3 hits and not 2-3 stacks removed per hit.

[@arturarturos7050]

I tried with bomber and it doesnt work against 4 star leviathan.

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Ye I wasn't successful with bomber either. Scythe gives so much more dmg and bombers taunt will slow you down, because your ties won't dodge that much.

[@edch77518]

My Vader hit is never that painful like this video.

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Is your vader relic 8 and full 6 dot mods? I added in the video description that vader should be r8. Couldn't test it myself with lower relics and had to w8 for reports from other players. But test the version with tie defender do the finishing hit if you have iden reliced up

[@edch77518]

@@jaymkay-swgoh My Vader is R8 but not full of 6 dot mods.

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

@@edch77518 mhh okay maybe you need full 6 dot. Also what relic lvl was your opponent red trooper? I could Only test against relic 7. Maybe relic 9 blocks this. I think the Iden variant deals more dmg. Maybe that's the superior strategy overall. Thx for sharing important informations BTW :)

[@eddumZ]

​@@jaymkay-swgohyour Vader is R7 in this video too... I also can't get the damage in with R7 and full 6dot

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

@@eddumZ lol you are absolutely right. I though mine is r8 because I never had trouble killing with him.. Bit embarrassing :D What relic lvl was their red trooper?

[@kamixakadio2441]

"Meta defining" 💀

[@MarinCuk]

That does not work for me,vs TIE Dagger-Duritto and Sith fighter in first 3 I used this counter before the fix. In my fights first reinf is Palps Shuttle and then Mark VI Forsight all around the board. But super video

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Good to know that it doesn't work against every comp. Thx alot :)

[@MarinCuk]

@@jaymkay-swgoh Hi,i forgot to say one thing. In your videos,we bearly see what relics are on LEV team,and do those pilots have full 6 dot mods. Please make another vid with full info. Thx

[@danielleinad88]

Hey why doesn’t leviathan bring out any reinforcements, and just uses ability ? Wouldn’t that change up the battle a bit ? But good video nonetheless

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Mhh it might feel like that but the leviathan just has so few turns. First turn is sabotage engines, second turn was reinforcement, third sabotage hangars and we'll the the battle is over. Thrawn just gets so many turns because of the tie dodges

[@larrybell5578]

Looks like your counter is the go to counter now, congtats. Every once in a while after the first dodge and my capital ship goes I can't bring in a reinforcement for some reason and I obviously lose. Any ideas why?

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Mhhh do you use a shiploadout? When I choose the Chimera loadout they always sneak the milf into the team. Have to remove it always before I start a battle. If you only use the 6 ships, it should be fine. At least I have no other idea :D

[@larrybell5578]

@@jaymkay-swgoh All Emipre Same loadout as you except I for some reason bring in Tie Bomber

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

@@larrybell5578 well that's weird... No idea sry... Bomber sounds interesting as second ri. I might try that. But you will loose some banners in gac because you have 3 ris

[@larrybell5578]

@@jaymkay-swgoh It was just an arena climb. Something to throw in there. You're right, I wouldn't put it in there in GAC, It was worthless.

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

@@larrybell5578 haha OK then I don't need to test it :D But it shouldn't stop the first turn reinforcement... Did it happen against dagger or fighter starter? If I find a solution I'll tell you but can't promise anything.

[@desislavtepavicharov9059]

Just tried the strategy but my Chimera could not bring in the first reinforsment so fast - it still has 1 cooldown. any advice?

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Did you bring in more ships then the two reinforcements? The cooldown reduction only works when vader is in starting lineup, second sister is in reinforcements and all ships are sith or empire.

[@desislavtepavicharov9059]

@@jaymkay-swgoh no - the same ships as shown in the video

[@larrybell5578]

Did they just nerf this counter? I was 100 percent until the patch but I see nothing in the patch notes.

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Yesterday it worked. I will test it today

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Tried again right now and it worked but my defender Was in the red once. Cg just announced, they investigate the matchup right now so I think it isn't fixed yet but they might release a fix soon :(

[@larrybell5578]

@@jaymkay-swgoh I have won with it post patch but they have reached ult on me and I have lost a few battles, neither happened prepatch. I probably don't have the relics as high as you also. My Thrawn is 6 and Vader is 7.

[@antoniomatos21]

Is Scythe a must for this fleet or u can do the normal Bomber line up?

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

I wasn't successful with bomber yet. The dmg was to low for quick kills and with the taunt up, the ties won't dodge that much and thrawn will get less turns.

[@allg3559]

I was able to do that, but only because I got a lot of lucky dodges, and it was a 5* leviathan

[@alexanderrobertson4058]

@@jaymkay-swgoh what about any sith ships to keep the clause empire and sith only

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

@@alexanderrobertson4058 well other ships don't rly help because you won't be able to call em. The only sith and empire also works if you undersize

[@BlazingStorm8895]

If I don’t have Scythe, is there another ship I can use like Emperor’s Shuttle, TIE Reaper, or even Scimitar?

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

I couldn't make it work otherwise unfortunately. The buff dispell and the increased dmg from scythe is just so important. I tried it with tie bomber because it also can dispel but the dmg wasn't enough then.

[@just.a.simplejoe]

If you don't have scythe, what is probably the best 3rd ship in the initial line up you think?

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

I honestly think, don't use this counter in this situation. Scythe is rly necessary unfortunately.

[@CL-sj5xl]

CG is gonna cry 😢

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

*leviathan is not performing as expexted" xD

[@DannyDL1ght]

It will be patched, most probably will not work after that

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Ye... Let's see what they do. Maybe we find a new solution. Sucks, that they want to stop every counter... I understand, that thrawn is to cheap but prof...

[@DannyDL1ght]

@@jaymkay-swgoh it’s not cheap at all , you need inquisitors relic and their ships from proving grounds

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

@@DannyDL1ght ye that's true but its still old stuff in comparison to a brand new meta fleet. I mean imp ships are great. They can beat executor and prof. That Cg wants to protect their new toy is kinda understandable I guess

[@Darth.Billie]

Hi! enemy ship GP? 605k? or more?🎉

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Lower but gp doesn't say much. If you put only 2 reinforcements in you will have way lower gp then a fleet with 4 reinforcements.

[@tungle1991]

I hope CG won’t buff them because of this video lol, better hide this because “it’s not working as intended against p2w”

[@toughsituation8347]

Doesn't work anymore They've nerfed it

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

My video is post patch. I just tested it again right now. It works.

[@toughsituation8347]

@@jaymkay-swgoh I understand its post patch and it worked brilliantly yesterday (4/4). But Today I'm at 0/8. Same opponent, same lineup (sith fighter one). They hardly ever go for TIE during the opening play and the opposing ship seems much faster (obviously opponent couldnt upgrade it since DR was at r9, all 6e mods from the start)

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

@@toughsituation8347 mhhh well that's strange. I just did it after your comment to check and it still worked for me. But I tried it only once today. Opening play should be the same. Tie gets foresight from his special and scythe marks him when he has foresight. Do your tie fighter goes first? Edit: I just realized you said sith fighter lineup. That battle might rly be different if they fixed the reinforcement order.

[@toughsituation8347]

@@jaymkay-swgoh right, this has to do with this particular setup...anyways, great job on the video and thanks for looking into this ! Hopefully this will keep being a thing, fingers crossed !

[@cybergeek7]

Leviathan is garbage even after bug fixes

[@SupStePer]

XD?

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Well we are still figuring out stuff. Maybe a better defensive setup will be found soon. If leviathan stays weak on defense, you can beat every fleet with it on offense. Maybe not what we expected as Meta defining fleet but still strong