Thread Spokes - Head Tube Fixture Cap - Mini Town Bicycle 05 - Hozan Spoke Threader

[@greengonzonz]

Thanks Steve. Interesting seeing how you approach and solve these issues. Good to see through different eyes 👍

[@aserta]

Considering spokes are a known quantity, they could both make the experience better and cheapen the cost (positively) by going to collets (like a dremel collet). I have very similar setup, minus the fact that i use a small lathe to power rewire these for electric motors (short stubby spokes) and a collet makes life so much easier. Rotate, insert lock, thread, rotate, pull, rinse and repeat.

[@Abe.Wassenstein]

Looks like Hozan have changed the design of their tool. A previous version didn’t have the chuck style clamp but a channel for the spoke and a screw down clamp. A spoke would occasionally slip and start spinning, but apart from that it worked very well.

[@nelsonparra3797]

building a wheel with 144 spokes. This is going to save me hours. Thank you.

[@just.some.dud3]

Great series man, loving all the recent content!

[@TSKseattle]

I like the chuck cap, but I just start by tightening the chuck down just enough to let the spoke through, and it keeps it from slipping out. For repetitive length cutting I put two felt pen marks on the crank shaft, one to set where the spoke hits the cutter, the other with how far to crank it down

[@petrotahal5040]

Really enjoy your videos, keep up to the great work. The spokes on your wheel are 3-cross resulting in quite an extreme angle, note how they bend at the nipple. I would suggest 2-cross would be better for a 20" wheel and a hub with reasonably large flange diameter. Probably won't be a problem unless you have a heavy load on the wheels...

[@PithyBikes]

Petr Otahal great tips. I’m new to wheel building. Didn’t even know 2 cross was a thing!

[@petrotahal5040]

@@PithyBikes I found this a really good guide when starting: www.wheelpro.co.uk/wheelbuilding/book.php

[@Chiro75]

Making good use of your 3D printer!

[@corneliopitones5953]

Beautiful toys

[@hongjenwang]

Just curious would it have a better finish if you were to cut the spokes first then thread?

[@andywalford7544]

The spoke roller shaft has 3mm graduations so you can see how much you cut, just start with it fully back. Alternatively count the turns…………for those of us without 3d printers

[@mdppopow]

I love it your sweet movies. God luck

[@cccpkingu]

Weld a bit on the threader and use it with a drill?

[@PithyBikes]

Unbias I considered chucking it up in the drill but I actually annoyed the peaceful turning of the handle. Somehow it felt disrespectful to the tool if I used a drill. Lol

[@dennisyoung4631]

So you’re using a Dial Indicator (on your truing stand) too. Seems I’m not crazy!

[@aldenhoot9967]

Love your projects! Just have two questions as I’ve never cut spoke threads before. 1. Is this operation best done “dry” or do they recommend using cutting oil like one normally uses when tapping/threading with dies? 2. Given how long it takes to spin on and then off again I assume you gave some thought to cutting to length before you threaded. What lead you to thread first?

[@PithyBikes]

Alden Hoot dry is probably best because the threaded rollers don’t really cut, rather they press the thread and buckle the material. I did however add lube to the rollers where they turn on the tool itself.

[@PithyBikes]

The reason for dry is that it reduces the likelihood of foreign chips and dust getting in the grooves of the threader.

[@Farlig69]

It´s called a rolled thread - much stronger than a cut thread

[@andrewwilson8317]

Pithy Bikes the rolled thread also needs a little friction to properly form the threads. The thread rollers need to turn on the thread rather than slipping on them if they were lubricated. Rolling the threads gives really nice strong threads, the metal grains are formed rather than cut. Much much less chance of snapping the end off a spoke. I like to use DT double butted stainless steel spokes,makes for really strong wheels.

[@jlmagandelcerro2415]

What about n.2? I was wondering also.

[@joebyrneMensrights]

Why did you tread then cut? Should you have cut to correct length than Threaded. Also, Ordering bulk spoke blanks 1000 at a long length ( I order 306 mm ) then cutting them down saves lots of money and I have spokes for several bikes.

[@oscarcalderon2905]

Excelent, Steve do you think that is posible you make a video about to building a folding bike?

[@PithyBikes]

Oscar Calderón maybe some day. Right now as a family we don’t have a need for one. I do like the design challenge of building one though. But unless it’s unique, I feel it’s a path already taken and solved by some known brands.

[@AbdulWahid-uv2pm]

how mach ropis

[@RNicolasRuvalcaba]

Is it safe to say that every bike shop has one these, or something similar to cut and re-thread spokes ?

[@PithyBikes]

I think so. But not sure!

[@aaronslife4635]

Love your videos. Little word of caution, since those rims are aluminium alloy, they soften up when plastically deformed. So, unless they get heat treated again, they'll forever have a weak spot where you bent them back into shape. Keep the awesome videos coming though!

[@Metal-Possum]

It's so insignificant here. You should see the tools designed to straighten buckled rims out!

[@Brianmrtinzz]

@@Metal-Possum I would like to see those!

[@shanemiller285]

Sweet set up buddy love what you got going on with this build wish we could be friends on Facebook if your willing to help a guy with building his first bike and given your very smart advice on bike building please comment back looking forward to hearing back from you thanks for your time

[@johnnyseverino]

Where do you buy the wire ⁉️

[@ryanpeterson1664]

How do the jaws on your cable cutter look after cutting 60-odd spokes? I didn't think those were designed for that kind of cutting.

[@TheAcousticWarfare]

I know from experience those park cable cutters go dull fairly quickly if you're cutting spokes with them. We had a decent set of side/diagonal cutters with long handles in the workshop for cutting spokes/delacing wheels. Makes the job far easier!

[@PithyBikes]

It seems to have held up fine. But that’s a good question. I’ll keep a spoke tool log to track it. I’m curious.

[@aserta]

Best tool for these is one of those thread cutters that come with work for electrical equipment (the good kind). You thread the spoke in and it's more tension than shearing.

[@juanmireles3143]

@@aserta hey.. came across your video.. very nice stuff you do. Had a random question. Is there any way you could sell a 3d adapters for the spoke machine you have or made for? the center spoke tool & the length gig?

[@joelmontgomery3242]

Do you make and sell these items?

[@prancstaman]

So, you rolled the threads, not cut. Does it make the spoke longer doing that? And is that calculated in the equation? Had no idea that there was even an equation to figure out spoke length, LOL.

[@sethhansen4173]

prancstaman typically a rolled thread this much stronger than a cut thread.

[@prancstaman]

Yes, but is it longer?

[@genesioapretto5077]

Sei forte 🖖

[@bobetization]

can you use cyclo treader in hozan device?

[@PithyBikes]

I don’t know sorry.

[@Hertog_von_Berkshire]

Would it not be more economic to cut then the spokes to length then roll the threads? I mean all that extra wear on the die!

[@carlosenriquecamposalvarez8421]

Buenas tardes quisieras saber en dónde puedo conseguir la maquinita para hacer la rosca de los rayos gracias

[@Brianmrtinzz]

Amazon

[@Svk707]

Wow man! love your video's !!!! And thanks for sharing. Question: is sharing your 3D printing designs also a possibility? Or am i out off line now? Keep on making these great video's bro !!! Greetings Stan

[@PithyBikes]

Nah not at all. Sharing is good! I wouldn't be where I am today if it wasn't for other people's sharing. When I spin things back up again, I'll put this stuff on a site for ya'll. But please remind me in a few months if I haven't, I've got so much to do!

[@krishnarupa]

I follow this channel for a long time! I just love how inventive you are! I am going to buy this spoke threading tool, as I normally don’t find the spokes on the length I need. When you have time please share your model!!! I will try to create my owns and can share with you all later! Thanks for the great work!

[@PithyBikes]

Not at all! I just put the download link in the desc. But here it is for you here too - www.thingiverse.com/thing:4802266

[@JoseMorales-gi4cq]

Buenas noches adónde consigo esa llave para hacer rosca a radios

[@estivengrijalba586]

Hola amigo donde puedo conseguir una llave de esas

[@ashisdalapati5643]

Sir can u provide me 12g. 225mm electric bicycle spokes?

[@PithyBikes]

sorry I can't due to time! I can barely get any of my own stuff done :(

[@davorinrusevljan6440]

Did you have to adjust the Hozan spoke tool cutting head to cut properly?

[@PithyBikes]

Davorin Ruševljan nope. Worked right out of the box

[@bjimbosld]

Has anyone made these printed items? I would like to buy them.

[@Metal-Possum]

If you're cutting and threading spokes in such quantities, you really need to invest in something better like the Morizumi SCT, at a significant cost.

[@adampatterson]

I really wanted a Phill Wood spoke cutter until I saw the price

[@Machinationstudio]

2 years too late, but your mods should be standard parts. As often as not, anyone tapping spokes need to tap 64 of them at a go.

[@svijayakumar6347]

I need this How can I get

[@PithyBikes]

I got the spoke threader from Amazon. I don't know its availability outside of USA.

[@kevinluong5080]

A few recommendations: repurpose a cheap set of wire strippers like these (kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHKUmmaIqLpoldE) as your spoke cutter. Drill & tap to the spoke thread. You'll have the extra step of threading in the spoke, but this way, you will have minimal, if any thread cleanup when you unthread it. Weld some plate to extend a handle & get yourself more leverage. You could trivially add an end stop immediately after the hole, on-axis with the spoke to repeatedly cut 3, 5, whatever mm off the end of the spoke. It could be as simple as a metal L-bracket with a tapped hole & a screw as an end stop. I'll draw a picture if you want. Measuring from the head of the spoke may introduce some error due to the spoke bending, but if you measure off the vastly shorter end, it'll probably be a little bit more repeatable. You can also easily make a guide channel from a piece of wood & a band saw. With a board, stand it up with the largest face towards a band saw & make a very shallow cut (at a 45 deg angle for mild centering ability). This will give you a very straight gutter or trough to load your spokes in.

[@dansylvester3579]

Next time print jig with some rule marks on it or your logo.

[@svijayakumar6347]

Srilanka price please

[@PithyBikes]

www.amazon.com/ho-zan-Hozan-Spokes-Threaded-14-%C2%B0C/dp/B07DDGDFM3/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=hozan+spoke+threader&qid=1617844358&sr=8-1 $170 usd for hozan spoke threader

[@victorgam4114]

1leik

[@roncooke2188]

You could ask your girlfriend or wife to whined it back or a drill, interesting video but you could have bought the spokes for £10

[@Jayantibhai31]

fone nambar

[@Vogue_Voyage_shots_69]

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