Threat Burnout - Fixing Sword Art Online Gameverse [Part 3]

[@MinhLe19303]

Welp, I think Last Recollection actually fix this problem, since there is an important character's death in that game and there is literally war in that game.

[@jamesdempsey4194]

The gameverse does so much more than the anime or light novels. For some things, it does not do enough. And in some ways the games are worse, and they do come from what is expected. Here are some examples... Things it does great... 1. A lot of the characters develop well with plenty of time. The games even got me to care more about Yui, especially with AW vs SAO. 2. The newly introduced characters were amazing like Philia, Strea, Rain and my personal fav: Sumeragi. Things it doesn't do enough of... 1. Makes my boy Klein and even Agil feel irrelevant. 2. Offer variety and choices etc. Things the games do terribly... 1. Kirito isn't really dense in the anime but in the games he's a black hole. Game after game he sleeps in the same bed with other girls and neglects Asuna - not cool man. 2. Fanservice because fanservice. 3. A problem that Call of Duty has - they don't take the best elements of all games and combine them into a single entity. Imagine an SAO game that was as big as Hollow Realisation with the same amazing combat, where you can fly in an extremely detailed world with a fantastic story (like AW vs SAO) and stakes like in Hollow Fragment and a comforting ending like Lost Song or perhaps a choice that leads to different endings - with the tone we expected from Fatal Bullet.

[@Gamerturk]

Oh there are a lot of things Gameverse does right. While next episode will be the end of my "Fixing SAO Gameverse" series, it won't be the end of my videos on SAO Gameverse. All in all, while providing genuine criticism from my end hoping to raise awareness, I also planned this series to gauge the response of my community to experiencing criticism and to see the true nature of the people following me. That was the main reason why I started with Fatal Bullet endings where a majority of people have a problem with and only then moved onto more obscure criticism, that not many people may have a problem with on the surface. Much like the people following me here, I am a through and through SAO fan, but coming from the Sonic fanbase, more than any other person, I know how toxic a fanbase can be, who sees what they like as the work of god, immune to criticism, and as I say whereever I go, praising everything blindly is just as dangerous as criticizing something blindly. So seeing the response of the community I have here, trying to look at products from a critical perspective, was very important for me. As I mentioned earlier, next episode will conclude Fixing SAO Gameverse for the foreseeable future, that will be the moment where I start another series about what the Gameverse does right with the attitude shift it has in comparison to the main canon. Im still thinking about a proper name for it though...

[@kjriwoutube]

Great video good points

[@stvtjxx]

that vaas montenegro reference lol .

[@MinhLe19303]

What you said about Tia should sacrificed to Premiere in the story, I wouldn't like having main casts or any good people to die, so for me it'd be better if they don't die in the game. But it'd be okay for me to make characters like Tia die to make the threat real and somehow revive her with a big emotional reunion.

[@amari7782]

If I’m being honest for fatal bullet you could pretend the choose a friend ending is canon cuz getting the true ending requires some stupid bs you gotta do just go get it

[@Gamerturk]

You can't really, because DLC4 takes place after the ending of the vanilla game and features both Kureha and Zeliska alive.

[@amari7782]

Gamerturk ahh is that why it’s off the season pass for the expansion packs cuz I’ve never understood why it wasn’t apart of the season pass at all

[@Gamerturk]

Yup, DLC4 is completely separate from the previous 3 DLC Chapters that take place before the ending of the game.

[@amari7782]

Gamerturk wat sick bastard thought that was a good idea

[@Gamerturk]

That's mainly the side effect of the fact that DLC4 was an unexpected one. They needed more content to extend the lifespan of Fatal Bullet for another year, so they created more free updates with some new content and DLC4 to buy time until Alicization Lycoris.

[@blankblank3400]

I think the game verses are ok as long as there a new take on the franchise like if is ur own character fb was a new take on ggo as long as we don't go back to aincrad again after if we should be fine

[@blankblank3400]

To me there just a way to see my favorite characters till season 3

[@Gamerturk]

I agree with this statement on certain events, while totally disagree with it on other events. I always go back to Hollow Realization character events when I am looking for good examples of "Having more time with my favourite characters", because Hollow Realization character events, actually handle these characters with care and respect. Especially the Skill Fusion/Heroine Skill events are the golden standard of how to do character development in such a short event. They take the personality of the character, and try pushing the characters limits to expand on their personality. And then there are times like the AWvsSAO where a majority of the character events turn into boobjokes or awkward sexual scenarios, that contribute nothing to these characters and are just fueling the dreams of SAO haters. I am fine with having awkward situations, Hollow Realization had them too. But as I mention this all the time, Hollow Realization never lets fanservice overtake the meaningful content. Even when there is sexual situations, the event is not centered around that specific bit. We always get to see the personalities of these characters shine and get the awkward situation as a small slapstick somewhere within the event. These are two distinctly different instances of "Spending time with our favourite characters" and should be judged separately as well, as they are designed as completely different experiences at their core.

[@blankblank3400]

Very true

[@christiancervantes4264]

You mean 4 threat events SAO: Re: HF, LS, HR, & FB? Who's Zero? 7:59 But in SAO Gameverse, Pale Rider Survived from Shinkawa Brothers, In SAO Anime, Sinion & Kirito didn't save him, but he's dead Their's nothing wrong of AW Vs. SAO, stop blaming my game and timeline In SAO Gameverse 13:29 It doesn't matter 15:02-15:03 15:07 It's not stupidity and no it's not 16:37-16:42

[@Gamerturk]

Yes, as I mentioned in the video, 4 story driven "Threat Events" exist in the 5 games. Lost Song still has Yuuki as an AIDS patient though, who is miraculously getting better and better with each installment. Zero is a third copy of the Goddess, so Tia and Premiere, which started as an experiment on twitter as a bot who learned human interaction based on what people spoke with the account, and was implemented into HR post DLC3 content. Yup, our heroes essentially are not allowed to make mistakes when it comes to taking action, but are allowed to be dumbed down by a mile so there can be conflict in certain cases. This creates a huge disparity. I don't have a problem with people enjoying what they enjoy. I enjoy certain aspects of AWvsSAO myself. But it is pretty much confirmed at this point that it does not belong in the Gameverse timeline and is just a standalone adventure, much like the Versus novel where Kirito fights Silver Crow. Well, it kinda does, when you can't answer "What is the purpose of convoluting the story by having only 2 NG's?". Again, Itsuki's plan does not even benefit from having real NerveGears in the first place, since potentially killing himself or the protagonist, does not in any way bring him closer to his goal. So NerveGear reference, was once again, used to bring our memories of the Aincrad arc into this game, hoping Nostalgia does the trick of fooling you. It's the same thing as what Ordinal Scale did. The difference was, OS actually planned the entire narrative, very cleverly around Aincrad and made it a focal point, by providing content and substance to enhance the underlying plot. Fatal Bullet did nothing to bring something meaningful to the table.

[@Sinon_Asada]

​@@GamerturkI think it's because even if itsuki had spare nerve gear, he wouldn't have given it to Zeliska and Kureha anyway, purely because he did not expect them to come, which at the end of the day would be a waste and the nerve gear would be unused, which would make it pointless to give it to them while thinking like that, the reason itsuki and the main character were given nerve gear was probably because Itsuki wanted the death game to truly be something that had something crucial at stake, while also giving the nerve gear to us, so every choice he made was serious, if he wanted to kill us, it would actually happen, so he had to make the choices he truly believed in.

[@Sinon_Asada]

​@@Gamerturksorry for commenting after 5 years, it might be useless to comment now, but I can't help myself lol