Three councilmen walk out in protest during San Bernardino council meeting

Three San Bernardino councilmen walked out of Wednesday’s City Council meeting ahead of a vote on mayor John Valdivia’s latest proposal to add four staff positions to his office and have city employees serving city leaders report to his chief of staff.
(Video courtesy of IEMG)
Fred Shorett, Henry Nickel and Jim Mulvihill left the council chambers, causing the six-member council to lose its quorum and forcing adjournment of the meeting.

[@vinnie6758]

Why do these people think they're so important I make a motion to a pending motion to get away with a motion to do the motion to hear the motion

[@andrewvelonis5940]

You gotta swing your hips now, c'mon baby jump up, jump back. Well I think you got the knack, whoa, whoa

[@brentonharding247]

The common denominator in all of these council meeting videos is a complete muleteer lack of knowledge of Parliamentary procedure. What in the name of Beauchesne is a “substitute motion?” Henry Martin Robert must be spinning in his grave.

[@tomy5868]

you're out of order...no you're out of order. you're not recognized...no you're not recognized. are you 10 years old?

[@davechamberlain229]

I don't know, are you a 10 year old?

[@tomy5868]

@@davechamberlain229 ah... Get your feelers hurt?

[@Mike-qk9ys]

Clearly the issue is none of these people understand Roberts rules of order. If a motion is made and people don’t agree with it then simply vote no. A slight amendment to an original motion is easily accomplished if people agree. But in absolutely no circumstances would anyone ask another person if they are OK with a motion. That’s just ridiculous. Make a motion, hopefully someone will second your motion, debate the motion, and then vote on it. All this other stuff just shows how inexperienced these people are.

[@ryh5169]

If the chair doesn't know the rules or won't enforce them, it's chaos. Most places using RR suffer from this.

[@Bugsy0333]

Perhaps you could explain this to the San Bernardino council ?

[@ryh5169]

Hard to count all the violations of RONR happening here, but this is my first try, using the 12th Edition: 0:23 Mr Shorett interrupts without making any of the allowed motions (42:18-22; t44-45) -- he should be cautioned by the Chair with an explanation, and (if he persists) a motion made to discipline him (61:10-21) 0:34 Motion stated by chair but then never opened up to debate (4:3; 4:27-32; 43:3-6 ); instead a vote is called immediately. 1:41 following Mr Nickel's statement of the amendment ("substitute motion") the floor is supposed to return to the chair to state the amended motion and request a second (12:82-91). Instead Mayor Pro Temp Richard immediately takes the floor out of order 1:50 Same thing with the City Attorney 2:08 Same thing, back to Mr Nickel; he then addresses the Mayor Pro Temp Richard directly, instead of stating his question to her via the Chair (violating 3:12); her question to restate the amendment proves that RONR wasn't being followed, as the Chair was supposed to state the amended question, which she could then second if she approved or thought it worth the assembly's attention. 2:24 Mr Mulvihill interrupts and attacks the Chair directly -- way out of order. If he thought the Chair was remiss he should've made a "point of order" (42:18-22) and justified his reasoning 2:44 Chair immediately launches into debate about his position against the amended motion, violating 43:29, when he was supposed to restate the amended motion and then request a second (as the City Attorney has to remind him). 3:02 Mr Nickel claims his amendment was a "friendly amendment" (12:19), but that doesn't mean it doesn't need a second (as he seems to think). He then AGAIN addresses Mayor Pro Temp Richard directly (3:12) asking her if she's "ok" with his amendment

[@hairyspud7449]

If that was to stop the Mayor appointing a friend or family member for the position then Im all for it.

[@JeffSmith-eq3kc]

It's a chief of staff position for the Mayor, I'm not sure why anyone else would be involved. I've worked on Capitol Hill for a decade now and US Senators and Congressman choose their own Chief's of Staff. The Mayor can hire whoever they want to be Chief of Staff, it's that simple.

[@cubefarmerhkc9105]

Do your job people. You have other agenda items to work thru and you leave because of a staffing issue, really? Come on man.

[@williamdaniels6943]

san bernardino is a bad place to live! law enforcement there is a joke!

[@HybridSpektar]

Then why do people live there then?

[@jeffschroeder4805]

Hiring a chief of staff without requiring approval of the city council and requiring employees to report to that chief of staff seems to be inviting corruption. I suspect that he has his chief of staff already picked out and I don't blame the councilmen that left for being very suspicious. Having their existing HR department do the vetting would be more appropriate than letting the mayor hire ANY employees without the council's approval, even a dog catcher. How much will this chief of staff be paid? What qualifications are required? Is loyalty to the mayor the primary requirement?

[@alejandroholguin-mx4vh]

Pray that San Bernardino sheriff department and other counties stop using covert operations to harass whistleblowers with human traffic techniques to traffic minds of believers and non believers no discriminating if there way of life threatened by their own consequences. Amen

[@ozarksfarmerhansen8782]

Simple the Council want to have total control over the Mayor, he wouldn't have any say so over basically his assist.

[@johnscreekmark]

Indicative of how CA is run in general.

[@christopherstuart607]

Let me guess. You're a Trump cultist.

[@Pete-qo7bv]

And they were all given a handbag each to meet in the car park!!!

[@joeybenoit6269]

Put up a sign that says welcome to Dogtown! People here have dogs billions of them! In case they need food!

[@KatrinaDancer]

Are you suggesting people eat dogs? Americans don't eat dogs. Are you confused and thinking of specific Asian countries? Besides some of these people look like they should eat less.

[@xcaluhbration]

No kidding. I remember when I lived in the Dino thinking how prevalent the smell of rottweiler feces was in certain neighborhoods 🤢

[@benth162]

Do those people have any idea what protocol means, and then have the resolve to stick to it. Some of those people act like children. YOU DO NOT WALK OFF YOUR POST UNTIL THE CLERK STATES THE MEETING IS OVER. CAPICHE ???

[@troy9834]

As they say:::: you can move a weed the the flower garden and it’s still a week. If you move a lot of weeds it will turn into a sheet hole.

[@mcnall34]

Try it again in English.

[@maryannyanez1993]

Or a pot field

[@joeybenoit6269]

I've been talkin about this Chula Vista City not San Bernardino

[@joeybenoit6269]

Everyone!

[@charlesmoore6140]

He should pick his own cos

[@ryh5169]

Hard to count all the violations of RONR happening here, but this is my first try, using the 12th Edition: 0:23 Mr Shorett interrupts without making any of the allowed motions (42:18-22; t44-45) -- he should be cautioned by the Chair with an explanation, and (if he persists) a motion made to discipline him (61:10-21) 0:34 Motion stated by chair but then never opened up to debate (4:3; 4:27-32; 43:3-6 ); instead a vote is called immediately. 1:41 following Mr Nickel's statement of the amendment ("substitute motion") the floor is supposed to return to the chair to state the amended motion and request a second (12:82-91). Instead Mayor Pro Temp Richard immediately takes the floor out of order 1:50 Same thing with the City Attorney 2:08 Same thing, back to Mr Nickel; he then addresses the Mayor Pro Temp Richard directly, instead of stating his question to her via the Chair (violating 3:12); her question to restate what is being asked of her again proves that RONR wasn't being followed, as the Chair was supposed to have restated the amended question, which she could then second if she approved or thought it worth the assembly's consideration. 2:24 Mr Mulvihill interrupts and attacks the Chair directly -- way out of order. If he thought the Chair was out of order he should've made a "point of order" (42:18-22) and justified his reasoning 2:44 Chair immediately launches into debate about his position against the amended motion, violating 43:29, when he was supposed to restate the amended motion and then request a second. 3:02 Mr Nickel claims his amendment was a "friendly amendment" (12:19), but that doesn't mean it doesn't need a second (as he seems to think). He then AGAIN addresses Mayor Pro Temp Richard directly (3:12) asking her if she's "ok" with his amendment

[@bucketmouth7705]

The babies crawled out.

[@0524cami]

Corruption at every level

[@peterdurkin1499]

A room of arrogance

[@I-LOVE-EARTH]

Good for them to walk out. The mayor's feelings were hurt...LOL!

[@iceyred6668]

howard admendmentT102 -section 105

[@43Aquaman]

4:26. Dais. "DAY-US" not "DIE-US". Every single council meeting, in every town, city, county, and state, incorrectly say this simple word. Four letters. Google it under pronunciation, and you will see I am correct. How can so many people in the same walk of life, mispronounce the same word? Frankly, it's astonishing.

[@rhianimal19]

You need to change your name to MRpedantic

[@holdthatlforluigi]

Maybe, when an exceptional number of people say a word the same way, there's no point in calling that pronunciation "wrong"

[@andrewvelonis5940]

Daylight come an we wan go home

[@xcaluhbration]

@@rhianimal19 🤣

[@xcaluhbration]

@@andrewvelonis5940 HILARIOUS

[@jonathancisneros7150]

No wonder the dino is so ghetto.

[@YeeeewHawwwww]

That blonde has fifteen chins!!

[@Bugsy0333]

You have 16 lmfao

[@poppiarlin5612]

Typical California BS

[@christopherstuart607]

Trumper ???

[@janet5610]

The mayor should be able to pick their own chief of staff regardless of the city council's opinion.

[@poppiarlin5612]

Dam

[@JeffSmith-eq3kc]

This makes little sense. It's the Mayor's job to pick there Chief of Staff, nobody else's.

[@I-LOVE-EARTH]

It's best way to stop corruption and make sure the best person is chosen.

[@davidmyers5417]

I was raised in San Bernardino for years went to lytle creek elementary and lived on Congress street. back in 1960s and 70s then moved to Redlands 19 76

[@agoniaXdunya]

How are you liking East Sanberdo?

[@volkanphoenix5441]

Diversity is not a strength.

[@deshaunmassagekingwatson6293]

I WALKED AWAY FROM THIS VIDEO

[@iceyred6668]

howard admendmentT102 -section 105 //nd.D