Thresh wins Ferrari in 1997 Red Annihilation Quake 1 Tournament! HD1

[@ethanevenson3855]

It's amazing how evident the style of high level quake is in this video, despite how primitive it is

[@scambaitspidey3470]

these guys suck compared to now lmao

[@ethanevenson3855]

@@scambaitspidey3470 Well yeah, but this isn’t one of those “is this the same thing?” situations.

[@mikem9536]

This game never looked this good when I tried it on my system.

[@danieldeacha1169]

​@@mikem9536you should change resolution

[@bmonteleone48]

fr this is some high quality 90s computer?

[@KrushGODX]

WHEN WASD WAS BORN

[@aalwayslucky428]

Yeah he won because he use the wasd scheme it's not that popular on that time and others just made up their own key binding

[@KrushGODX]

@@aalwayslucky428 well said

[@mr.smiley]

Nah it was born years before that

[@n1k0n_]

M2 fwd, A & S strafe, R shift reverse was and still is my WASD alternative for every game I play.

[@thomdushane]

I remember using it in doom after hearing about it from others because you couldn't change your weapon keys, only your movement

[@bjohnblazkowicz]

powerups control, excellent defense and great map knowledge despite the reduced movement abilities those times gg Dennis Fong

[@listisdead7108]

@@P_Luke_12345 Mans is probably dead

[@benjamin_dixon]

24 years later still legendary

[@Kompakuta]

27 now

[@arturslapins3201]

28

[@jazz96765]

Thresh is dominating the game so much that it makes you wonder how Entropy even made it to the final stage of the competition. It must have been real easy for Thresh. This guy is a machine lol.

[@JonCombo]

The rest of the pack must've been terrible.

[@Frobbl]

He was* The skill level Thresh had in this demo isn't something that would be able to compete with todays professional Quake players at all. He'd get destroyed by people like nzr0 or hal9000.

[@ChadAV69]

@@Frobblwell yeah no shit. This is from the 90s.

[@cezartorescu]

Trash, not thresh :))) He was a coward and would be destroyed by many who didn't have the chance to compete. Trust me, he was a complete noob compared to many amazing players.

[@psycold]

I remember before this game came out there was some source code leak where all you could do was walk around one map and spawn a bad guy who couldnt even see you and it was the most amazing thing I had ever seen! Now games almost look like real life but I still don't get the same feeling that this game brought me when I was like 14 years old.

[@jatinsinghyadav5941]

Need more info about that

[@blizz1278]

I remember one of the quakes source leaking someone stole a laptop with it. I think quake 3.

[@LordFers]

@@jatinsinghyadav5941 same here, I need more info about that.

[@deleongk]

that means you're getting old now

[@FFFFindoor]

Its crazy to think that Q1 is still the purest form of DM/duel.

[@metalvideos1961]

Technically its Ultimate Doom. but yes quake was pretty much the start of the competitive gaming

[@visualstudiosproductions]

It's not. Quake 3 is superior in every way. No railgun in quake 1 is enough to disqualify it, in any case. Essential part of the weapon trio.

[@visualstudiosproductions]

@Mach But rail is not instakill, that's the point. It was 100 dmg in q3, but 80 in ql and qc. It's perfectly balanced.

[@Chewy427]

@@visualstudiosproductions railgun is cheese it's just timing and has the highest face dps because you spend no time facing your opponent. doesn't belong in quake

[@winstonbumbles5511]

@@Chewy427 100%

[@realbr1koo]

I was a kid by the time ive played Quake, in the school we made almost everyday Lan parties. After 20 years of playing i still say Quake is one of the best multiplayer games ever made by human hands. I mean the original maps werent really designed for multiplayer, but just by watching this match through you realize how intense conflicts between two players can be. And those guns sounds, the level design, the atmosphere. You'll never get it anywhere else.

[@NoNewfriendss]

Used to play DM and clan arena with all those old guys. I remember when Fatality started winning all that cash and getting sponsorships. Everyone organizing matches on IRC. Uncanny how much of these maps I remember.

[@deepblue2]

Didn't Fatality play CTF?

[@nomorecheezmeh]

@@deepblue2 he played Clan Arena with a clan called TMG (The Maniac Guild) and started playing DM with a clan called Negative Burn (nB), after that he jumped to Quake3 DM with clan Kapitol and he went solo after that.

[@kvdrr]

I love how the jerkiness of mouse movements are preserved in the demo. A sign of times.

[@dannyboyz7061]

The lack of bunnyhop is surprising

[@Jedibob5]

Probably because the jumping noise would give their positions away

[@vghionea]

I think bunnyhop appeared in QW , not sure if they play QW or original Quake 1

[@GroinMischief]

Bunnyhopping is easier in QW (more aircontrol or acceleration, don't remember which), but was always possible in Q1 as well. People definitely bunnyhopping around as fast as possible nowadays, especially on this map. There's a few interesting sound feign and cancellation tricks that people use to sneak around also.

[@Crowbar]

if sound was an issue then people wouldn't bhop in modern Quake games neither.

[@vikingbuilt]

Thresh already had a ferrrari bunny hopping was for the fucking douche bags who had hope in this dead game when it became a bunny hop profession. bunny hop wasnt solid until quakeworld. This is Netquake.

[@StoopidAnimul]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at 9:43 I suspect he knew his opponent was coming down the hall when he heard the ammo respawn nearby. Then he just calculated in his head how long it would take for his opponent to reach the staircase from where the ammo box was and lead him with a rocket.

[@darylpetty]

Look in the water @2:03

[@Prowbar]

Daryl Petty can't tell whats the difference, care to explain?

[@KingLich451]

oh yeah lolol

[@zal7361]

illuminati song

[@mysteriousfleas]

Both were probably posturing for a better line of attack. Thresh would have to pull off a very lucky shot and if he missed he would have given his position away.

[@banyarling]

Noticed that too. Should have attacked from above.

[@Jayrod64]

Using WASD and mouse in right hand yes(that's basically the standard now), but a lot of it is also his tactics. Used cover to his advantage and a really strong weapon like the Grenade Launcher.

[@sparda9060]

i noticed that the N64 game golden eye uses the same item respawn sound file lol

[@AdviceandAdventures]

+sparda9060 That's pretty cool, I never noticed that. Also, the DOOM opening door sound effect is used in all kinds of movies.

[@randyronald]

Yeah that door sound effect is stock. It's as prevalent in sci fi as that creaky wooden door opening sound is in medieval fantasy (even Game of Thrones uses it often).

[@AdviceandAdventures]

***** Sound designers' inside joke! Let's not forget the Wilhelm scream. Added when appropriate in a lot of Hollywood films.

[@thomasbisset1136]

The game is 20 years old running on machines that have less technology that a modern wrist watch. Quake is one of the great all time 'God games'

[@AdviceandAdventures]

It really was amazing what they were able to pull off with a dedicated graphics processor. Sure, it ran at 30 frames per second (or less) but it was true 3D!

[@ShatteredHawk]

The good old Days..The all or Nothing Days.

[@casterama9051]

Omg, they played stock single player maps :D

[@mrbean0181]

How does the voodoo 3 hold up in benchmarks for GL quake?

[@cs512tr]

perfectly 3000 AGP

[@5H4NKTH35HARK]

This is the ancestor of all gamers, the original Dorito eater, the alpha of Mountain Dew. Rise up gamers

[@AdviceandAdventures]

This match can now be viewed at 1080p60 quality on my channel. Just search for Entropy.

[@OlafurArons]

So. Upscaled & Stretched from 4:3 to 16:9?

[@AdviceandAdventures]

Take a look. True high resolution graphics and sounds that are faithful to the original, thanks to the Quake Revitalization Project.

[@OlafurArons]

You mean to tell me you managed to play back the replay in a renovated version of Quake?

[@iusgaming]

Managed? It is a demo file, what else did you expect? This is id tech, as far as I am concerned id invented modding.

[@MarwanMahdy]

these camera tilts are crazy accurate. I am impressed this is a 97 esports game

[@caljackman1]

Did you know, the person who won the tournament was using a mouse and WASD?

[@TheT0nedude]

They're now called keyboards....

[@jibrail99]

i think what cal_jackman was trying to say is that back then he (Thresh) was one of the few that doesn't play fps using only keyboards (arrow keys for movement), Thresh is known to be one of the people who popularized using wasd and mouse as standard movement in videogames

[@hfvyueiwweyuirfgferyugefqr48]

Thresh was my uncle's friend (oggie) on quake he has many stories with him like the group and everything

@@jibrail99 I got quake the minute it came out and it was WASD from the start. I don't see how thresh popularised it.

[@sovereignone1900]

@ Yeah but a lot of people used only keyboards back in '96. The concept of using additionaly a mouse was pretty much born through this duel.

[@jonjon4634]

It’s amazing that winning a Ferrari pales in comparison from the stuff you can win in esports nowadays.

[@thcsabinad]

Can anybody tell me why there is no weapon shown and no aim cursor?

[@snetmotnosrorb3946]

There is a very small crosshair. I would guess hidden weapon gives more fighting screen real estate, eliminates distraction and improves framerate. I find it a very odd priority though, as it's a very miniscule intrusion and you lose feedback.

[@sovereignmind6822]

@@snetmotnosrorb3946 I think that stuff comes from the demo itself. Theres newer textures in this demo too that wouldnt have been in the game in 97. They probably removed the gun in the demos because people would watch these demos as a way to learn and improve and having less clutter in the replays made them easier to analyse.

[@Greyspecies9999]

Dat jumping noise tho

[@Forcedminer]

really breaks a stealth. :P but with no footstep noises neither or music...really makes the 1v1 more creepy.

[@WolfhoundMercenary]

Fun fact: The jumping grunts were voiced by none other than Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails (who also did the soundtrack for Q1)

[@sovereignmind6822]

Hhunh!

[@snowflakesfell4407]

why does the info say - *infamous* 1997 tournament? Does the person who posted this know the meaning of the word at all?

[@OHMYGODVIDEOGAMES]

i think this was the game that cemented WASD and mouse as the standard fps control configuration, most people still used the arrow keys back then

[@Tormentadeplomo]

I was wondering the same thing.

[@RooGames]

I'm here because of Joe Rogan.

[@SuperEroticJesus]

Me too haha listening to the Q & A podcast right now

[@chrisraymond4804]

god dammit

[@miagifodder5599]

Yea the game looks dog turd

[@nojroevad7655]

Same, but check out his latest podcast....John Carmack!

[@OpticLureProductions]

@@nojroevad7655 thats why im here lol

[@jonolaneee]

it’s crazy how conditioned i am to modern day streaming. i keep waiting to hear “right chat” or “thank you for the tier 1” in the background

[@JohnDoe-qd2tm]

this game was a huge milestone in 3d gaming and fps ofc

[@kriscaitanya]

So this is where the legend started

[@samspeziale3187]

maybe one of the coolest moments/match in competitive gaming history

[@sheridanrathbun]

This is intense. I can see myself in Thresh's head, making the same decisions in terms of health management and stuff, but sometimes he does things that surprises me, like shooting ahead of himself out of the water (which being out of practice I wouldn't have thought of, but it's smart and demonstrates his skill). Really excellent.

[@AndrewBetsch]

***** Because in the metagame the 2 or 3 unanswered hits are the victory. By controlling the map you know you have a stack and the opponent does not so in the end all those retreats end up equaling frags in the longview of things. Chasing to get the frag ends with you getting a rocket in the face that you don't need to take.

[@usagichan9991]

@Shintsu2 Especially at the time, even more exciting and unbelievable because video game tournaments never had major prices before.

[@NikoBellic12341000]

why are the gun models not there

[@NikoBellic12341000]

is it so you can see better?

[@michaspi]

Niko Bellic Correct.

[@ZombieH8R7]

you think you could go one on one with entropy or thresh? i doubt you could even get one frag on quake 1

[@thefinnishbolshevik2404]

What a massacre! What was the score? 10-0?

[@onesixtyofficial]

Pretty remarkable for a finals match.

[@TM-ht2gn]

"The final score was fourteen to negative one. (Kimzey was so discombobulated by the thrashing he was receiving that he accidentally offed himself at one point.)" www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/meet-dennis-thresh-fong-the-original-pro-gamer-103208/

[@nephatrine]

Unreal Tournament 2004 was pretty much the pinnacle of fast shooting games so it's definitely not just Quake III. There are also numerous games based on Quake engines still in being made today like Xonotic or Warsow which have very fast gameplay.

[@shinlightbringer]

Based asf

[@dwarflord2k3]

Quake 3 challenge pro mode

[@newolku]

So weird seeing them not bhop

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

9:12 please explain the "curve ball" rockets...

[@Hirotoro4692]

Just stop

[@SweBeach2023]

What really stands out is how old the gameplay feels. Modern gamers are so much better than this. Not saying he's bad, but he had like 1 year of experience since Quake was released in 1996., Modern elite gamers have 10-15 years of experience and much better equipment.

[@nexarath]

Wow man. How little it took to win a Ferrari back in the days.

[@GloomDev]

I wouldnt say overcoming two thousand gamers in a brand new genre is 'little' by any stretch. It only looks slow and easy because they're prioritizing strategy above all.

[@somebodiboi]

It’s amazing my uncle was the opponent (entropy) he still won 10k

[@neonfuz_]

What's up with the slow updating hud? is that just visual?

[@stackhat8624]

From memory they never recorded a POV demo of the match. Recording demos on 1997 hardware really slowed Quake down. There was a 3rd person demo recorded, probably from someone spectating. Someone a little later using Perl created a first person view demo from the 3rd person demo. Maybe thats the reason.

[@Igorsov]

Have you ever heard of 3dfx?

[@svfox]

what a shit ceo 3dfx had. they should have been the nvidia of the world

[@KillThad]

@@svfox They were for like a year and a half, but yeah, the CEO was an idiot.

[@HonsHon]

@@svfox Jesus Christ they had everything and just flushed it down the toilet lol

[@svfox]

@@HonsHon that ceo was a toad

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

Explain 5:32 - 5:34 explain the rocket shot that hits Entropy as he comes around the corner. Notice that Dennis NEVER aims at that location... and NEVER aims in the direction of the shot, look where the mouse is aiming when the shot is taken and where the rocket is headed.

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

One of the other curious events, in relation to Dennis Fong... was at the Human Ingenuity Tournament. I was about to beat Dennis 2 games out of 3... I won the first game, was in control of the map in the second game (I was an RA camper) and "mysteriously" one of his employees turns off the server and says "oops." We go into the third round and Dennis spawns at the 100 health RL on DM6 and I spawn at the Green Armor... anyone that knows DM6 knows I was screwed... he ran 100H RL and RA RL off of the spawn and there was nothing I could do about it. I played for a bit, then quit out and conceded that round. He stands up and announces to everyone at the tournament "I'm warmed up now." We go into the fourth game in the best out of 3 tournament at Dennis Fong's company HQ on his company computers and his company network and I proceed to beat him again. The look on his face said it all... he had never been beaten. Beyond that, I was the lead player of both the CTF and CA teams on his team "Legends." My roomates and I were the ones that provided the venue for the Legends BBQs at our house... Dennis did NOTHING for Legends. I do not even remember him playing with us, nor being at any of the bay area tournaments other than the HI tournament, which he lost to me. I am sickened by the misrepresentation of Dennis's supposed role in Quake tournaments. He was never there... this was the only tournament he "won" and as you can see from the recordings, it does not even look like he was doing the aiming. -LGD-WhiteWolf

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

There is a third curious incident related to Dennis Fong. At the finals of the E3 Red Annihilation tournament... one of the finalists, LGD-Pookie, the only pro female gamer at the time. Comes up to me and says "Dennis made me cry." I asked her what happened and she said he yelled at her when she lost her round. I did not say anything to Dennis, but I wish I had... Pookie's boyfriend at the time was Dennis's brother and I could not figure out why she did not tell him. Maybe she did not feel safe doing so... but to this day I still wonder what is wrong with this guy.

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

The fourth curious incident in relation to Dennis Fong. Was after the Red Annihilation tournament... where Dennis decides he is going to end "Legends" and start "Death Row." He calls me at the time and says he is not going to invite me to "Death Row"... I asked him why... seeing as how I was the best player on Legends and the one that was contributing the most, even going so far as to host the Legends BBQs at my house. He claims that "Geiger said we do not want people that talk shit on the team." So Dennis proceeds to invite Geiger to be on Death Row, who was not even in the running for being a professional gamer. He never won a tournament and was not considered by any of us to even be a good player. He was just someone that showed up at the Legends BBQs (because he lived locally) and tried to act like he was a big man or whatever. Geiger actually physically assaulted me at one of the Legends BBQs that everyone saw and I wish in hindsight, that I had called the police. This guy was running a news group grabber in the same house as his 2 or 3 year old daughter and his beautiful wife. When I consider the fact that Dennis stood up and talked shit at his own tournament, then yelled at the only female gamer in Quake history that I know of and made her cry... I think about his excuse and the fact that he hid behind someone that was actively downloading all sorts of illicit material from the internet and also assaulted me. I can only imagine his actual motives... after all this he went on to hire all of the friends that I had in the tech industry to "Gamers.com" and did not hire me. I honestly believe everything that he did was in an attempt to bury the fact that he had lost to me and was not actually the best Quake player.

[@Hirotoro4692]

Looked fine to me. Why are you so salty about a tournament from decades ago? Get the fuck over it

[@roan6903]

Precious video!

[@Kkardemumma]

This is Q1 and not QW, right?

[@СаидаСхадбиевна]

12лет прошло

[@zackhype]

Wait they kept the spike traps on this level for the map?

[@Classicsonicman]

invented the standard of wasd. what a legend

[@Pavluha901]

Quake3 play-style in 1997 already...Naa, cybersport!

[@blazejames47]

This was considered pro back then?

[@algo2957]

Wow, quake before people knew how to bunnyhop was so slow!

[@metalvideos1961]

you do know that you can bunny hop in quake 1 right? the mechanic started in quake 1. look at speed runs of this game. all bunny hop

[@algo2957]

@@metalvideos1961 No shit. I'm saying that the players in this video were playing Quake at a time when bunnyhopping hadn't been discovered by the community yet.

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

Explain the shot at 3:34 look how far Entropy is from the surface Dennis shot at. Play it a few times... you can see Entropy PAST the pillar, explain the size of that rocket splash damage.

[@sheridanrathbun]

Entropy is flying past the pillar *because* dennis shot him. And splash damage is computer server-side, so it's extremely unlikely dennis was cheating.

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

You do understand that this was a LAN tournament at this stage, not over the internet, right?

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

If you watch the demo that's been posted recently it is much higher quality... you can see entropy arm past the pillar BEFORE the rocket explodes.

[@sheridanrathbun]

lan/internet is moot. the quake network model is client/server based, so unless one of the two players themselves was running the server (which would be extremely surprising given this was a public tournament) the chance dennis could've used this kind of cheat is next to nil.

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

Lol... you are a newbie... I was a professional and was at this tournament playing on the Netquake network code. I beat Dennis the tournament immediately before this one on Dennis' s LAN at Human Ingenuity... I am telling you with absolute certainty there was a HUGE difference between playing over the internet and playing LAN. Back then there were terms we used HPB and LPB... it meant high ping bitch or low ping bitch, they stemmed from the FACT that ping made a HUGE difference in the netquake code and that's why ID made quakeworld. For you to try and explain the shots he made and the size of his splash damage on client server architecture or something you perceive as lag or something is your young persons understanding of quakeworld logic network code.

[@Blake4014]

Why can't we see the weapon?

[@kirimtek5568]

Console commands or something

[@kinexu]

@Shintsu2 Not any Ferrari, John Carmack´s 328 :)

[@xexun0010]

they didnt know about it until like 1999

[@ubacow7109]

As someone who has never played quake can someone explain to me whats acutally goes on. All i was able to tell is that youre running around and shooting at air~

[@noop9k]

High level players predict the movements of opponents and deny them access to healing items/ammo. They shoot at their enemy’s predicted path. They use sounds to estimate where their opponent can be at the moment and when make any actions producing sound themselves, they try to quickly relocate to prevent ambush.

[@benjamin_dixon]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpXOdZ2pd86Ca5o this explains high level quake

[@darksaiyan2006]

@salam14111 It's kinda logical that they don't jump much. It's harder to predict where somebody would go when they can suddenly change directions. Jumping sets you in an approximate line that you can't change until you land.

[@illegalquantity]

I don't understand how Entropy jumped so high without using a weapon. I was missing the weapon from the screen. It's not the real thing without it. I used WASD keys without knowing Thresh or anybody who used them, when I had no internet yet. True, I used them in a different way. (w=jump, s=run, rmb=forward, space=backward) :)

[@usagichan9991]

@kringkingen Gameplay wise in this video maybe. But the movement speed of the player is much faster than compared to FPS games of today. In which the movement speed of today's FPS WITH sprint is like walk mode in Quake 1.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

Optical mice weren't a thing yet. They were wrestling with heavied rubber-coated spheres inside their mice that would gunk up after a few greasy sweaty hours of playing. We all did.

[@VintageSlates]

It's amazing how fast we got at opening our mice and degunking our ball and runners ha..good times I'm glad don't exist anymore to be honest lol

[@stackhat8624]

A few hours? What were you using for a mouse pad? A pile of baloney? If you kept your mouse clean they would last around 18 months. Maybe a little less, a little more. I did go through a couple original logitech mouseman 3 button mice and its successor the Logitech Wingman mouse.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

@@stackhat8624 Not for me as a greasy teenager on the computer every possible minute that I could be. The rollers on all mice I used would get dirty - oil would transfer from my hand to the mouse pad to the ball and pickup dirt. If I was lucky it would go a couple of days without getting obnoxiously dirty to where it was interfering with my 180 headshot skills.

[@Omahamaho]

this was the peak of esports esports may be more popular today but this was still the peak

[@Galf506]

@BaRroWsDuDe he won john carmack's ferrari, read the description.

[@cyandk]

This is not quakeworld, but "netquake". Quakeworld didnt come around until 2003 which introduced movement prediction to quake. Thats why this match is so slow compared to what we know from qw.

[@SiriusTexra]

It's funny, Quake 1 looks so fucking good in 1997 compared to the shitty 3D from the PS1 and N64 at the time. God damn.

[@noop9k]

This is played in modern source port. But yes, Quake and Doom on PC were way better than console games of their time.

[@samthesammoner]

It was pretty much one of the first esport events.

[@Housesider]

1:16 I bet they were like "OH SHIT"

[@wolfkermek]

That green armor was so neglected.

[@Phed98]

weierstrass

[@DuckReconMajor]

oh god, in the water at 2:03

[@Forcedminer]

wonder how much more stressful and quicker that round would of been if health or armor didn't respawn?

[@sovereignmind6822]

its an arena shooter, map and item control is just as important as aim and movement in this game, respawning items are a major aspect of this style of shooter.

[@EstellaVanKolck]

Was this game really good?

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

Go to 5:27 seconds... and notice where Dennis is aiming... take note of where the rocket at 5:28 seconds fires. Explain...

[@SFuruli]

Kevin Melby Have seen this many times in demos from the DOS version of Quake. If you play the DOS version you can stand up top on DM4 and be unable to shoot rockets into the doorway of the top teleporter because the rockets will fly either to the right or left from your crosshair.

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

No... I was one of the professionals in this generation of quake and never saw anything even remotely like this. Also the single player version of the game has auto aiming enabled, have you tried that shot in a multiplayer game? I dont have quake 1 anymore.

[@SFuruli]

Yes, it's been primarily in multiplayer games, but it can't be the QW version of Quake. In the DOS version the rockets seem to follow a grid. However, it's actually easier to notice this grid when shooting with the Thunderbolt, because its beam also follows the same grid. I don't have Quake myself anymore, so I can't test it unfortunately. Me and my friends talked about this a few times, like "I couldn't make the shot because the rocket flew out to the right of my crosshair". And I'm seeing it in this video. I know I saw it very clearly at a point in this video. I'll find the time again and post in my next comment.

[@SFuruli]

Kevin Melby Here we go, 05:08. Last rocket fired before getting Yellow Armor. Flies out to the left of the crosshair. Just like the rocket you mention at 05:28. I don't know what version they're playing in this demo, but I can see rockets following a grid in many of his shots throughout the demo.

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

Yeah that's what im saying though, this was primarily a single player auto aim feature. I dont remember rockets ever doing this in multiplayer no matter how many demos I watch.

[@PixelatedHatsuneMiku]

they're not using mouses, right?

[@christiangottsacker6932]

This right here. Q3A is totally the spawn of this love.

[@Heyitdave]

this dude won a Ferrari lmao

[@bogart6648]

this is dark places?

[@snetmotnosrorb3946]

Didn't exist in 2009 AFAIK.

[@bogart6648]

so what engine is that?

[@snetmotnosrorb3946]

I don't know unfortunately.

[@xilix]

@kringkingen Well, the game was slower in itself back then with no mods.

[@FeudalMoon]

Nexuiz isn't even old bro. Also, Quake 3 Arena/Quake Live? Wow.

[@pobhockle]

This is twisting my melon, man. O_o

[@AndreyVihrov]

Hmm… Quake Live, Warsow?

[@MarkKolomiets]

Легендарное время. Не зря феррари призом была.

[@Climbatize666]

I know he invented WASD. But I still to this day use SDF and right mouse button to walk forward. I believe I copied my uncles controls when I was young and he said the control set up came from Sujoy another great Quake player. Also I play Inverted as well:)

[@stackhat8624]

lol, people have been using WASD since Doom days.

[@Climbatize666]

Yea you are right. It was actually before Doom I believe. But it was popularized by Thresh and Quake1 is what i meant to say.

[@p0zzz]

Was thinking the same. Prob nervous cause of the price

[@kafuuchino9429]

Old

[@heiitsalex]

how did these 2 players came to face each other? i mean , from what i saw the game was really one sided . weren't they supposeed to have the same skill level?

It was the first tournament and just happened that Thresh had taken his training to a whole other level that anyone else. The guy got destroyed but he must have been the best of the competition.

[@sovereignmind6822]

Thresh was just that much better than the rest at the time. Its not uncommon to have dominating players in a new competitive scene, Ken from the early Melee days is another prominent example. This was during the first couple years of Quake and competitve gaming itself was even new at the time so it doesnt surprise me that you would have those few people that take it far more seriously than the general community.

[@BaRroWsDuDe]

wait...so this guy wins a car? i thought ferrari was his opponents name... or are you guys just joking

[@dense_and_dull]

He legitimately won a Ferrari.

[@Luke18_13]

I haven't heard this much thrusting, since prom.

[@pronemanoldbutyoung5548]

I am 45 years old and I can vouche that Tresh was a Da Vinci of fps games. He would have sent Shroud to never never land for sure.

[@purebaldness]

Hard to know for sure. The bigger a sport gets, the more talent it attracts. It could be argued that Thresh was a big fish in a small pond compared to the competition in FPS titles today, namely CS and QC. Not to say he wasn't playing against the best at the time - he obviously was, but rather, the best may not have been playing Quake to begin with, or were even gaming. I hope I'm making sense. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate. I don't follow shroud and certainly not CS, but from what I understand he ate most CS pros for breakfast, just like Thresh did. I wish Thresh stuck around for Quake 3 because that is when things really started to kick off IMO.

[@sovereignone1900]

Didn't know that people used texture packs back than.

[@blehmeh9889]

It looks like this is a demo that was recorded, and then played back on a source port in the future with texture packs. Still though, it's interesting that people had texture packs for this game in 2009.

[@sovereignmind6822]

@@blehmeh9889 i mean Id Software basically invented and popularized the idea of customizing and modding games. Their games have always had a huge modding and custom community not to mention Quake is a top tier, legendary game so I'm not at all surprised that people were still playing and modding the game in 2009. I wouldn't even be surprised if there's still an active, albeit small, community today.

[@blehmeh9889]

@@sovereignmind6822 Oh yeah. There's new maps coming out on Quaddicted.com all the time.

[@sharless1]

ID software deffo need to get back to this Quake era and forget about RAGE style gameplay. Quake one and three defined 1 vs 1 FPS, and there's been nothing since.

[@snetmotnosrorb3946]

The new Rage 2 with a more more clear Borderlands style(-ish) is nice. Unfortunately I think this 90s style FPS is a thing of the past. It was a baby of its time. There is Toxikk today though.

[@noop9k]

Snetmot Nosrorb Toxikk isn’t too good, gets boring quickly IMO. More like UT clone than Quake. Even Quake Champions is better, and more maps too.

[@eastoforion]

the movement blew me away for the time

[@DJK1RA]

the one and only thresh :D

[@Shintsu2]

Think how intense you would be playing if you knew you'd win a Ferrari for winning the game...I can only imagine. Think about it - winning an exotic car for playing a video game. Win win...

[@JonCombo]

He didn't even have a driver's liscence.

[@vikingbuilt]

Fong style I still use his quake 1 config in PUBG lol

[@birdygamerXD]

the first game using wasd...

[@SuperSkandale]

That viewbob though

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

6:20 - 6:22 I bet Entropy was on the other side of the wall.

[@Uelogy22]

slow? I thought this was intense!? I must be getting older.

[@khajjith6148]

You are even older now

[@BertoBettencourt]

Quake 1 was not as faced paced as Quake II or Quake III or Unreal Tournament, it has nothing to do with the gamers here, it's just how the game was designed.

[@haelsoprofeten]

I know I am answereing to a 5 year old post, but whatever :p It's exactly the opposite - Quake 1 is still a much faster game than any of the games you mentioned. It just wasnt the case in the early competetive scene. Look for quake matches just a year or two later and you will see matches on a whole other level.

[@sovereignone1900]

Definitely. Quake 1 and Quake Champions: Doom Edition might be the most fast-paced FPS games ever made (the later is actually a highly professional Doom mod).

[@Dre-hs4rf]

He definitely had total map control. Most of time it seemed like it was just baiting. I tried playing Quake last night for the first time since it re released. Lol not a fan. I'm new school on shooters. Before my time I guess.

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

Then again go to 5:32 notice that Dennis has not even BEGUN the turn to fire the rocket... shoots at 5:33... he does NOT see Entropy... notice where the rocket goes. Game mechanics? I think not...

[@Super-wk6jx]

its delay of the demo look how the numbers go up about 1 - 2 seconds later after item pickup

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

***** What? The timer is moving second by second... what are you talking about?

[@xexun0010]

Kevin Melby watch when he picks up an item, about 1 second later the item actually takes effect, isnt immediate

[@Super-wk6jx]

Kevin Melby the health and armor numbers

[@kevinedwinmelby9938]

***** No it's not... it is not as delayed as you are saying it is. Ok yeah I watched it again and at some points it is really lagged... im going to watch the shots again and see if its the same effect.