Goodbye VR Controllers, HELLO VR GLOVES! (Best of CES 2023)

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

LOL, IT'S A TWO - SDAY NEWSDAY, get it? Two videos newsdays.. in one week? Also.. I actually may be swapping to gloves for VRChat and Social VR this year instead of controllers.. maybe... Anyways, Thank you Patreon Supporters for making this coverage of the XR industry possible. I will be uploading more Japan footage and a few topics I couldn't fit into this video on Patreon this next week. www.patreon.com/Thrillseeker discord.gg/thrill

[@_pluto42_]

Hi

[@_pluto42_]

The videos are amzing

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

@@_pluto42_ Thanks fam! :D

[@bogeyboiplays4580]

nice pun

[@ZayoFPS]

hahahaha I get it

[@WAZXIII]

Soo cool to that we're starting to see force feedback be a thing. Can't wait to get my hands on some.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

FOR REAL! I love force feedback so much but it still has a ways to go.

[@primaryaccount7626]

Considering its come up so quickly, I would imagine you won't have to wait more than a few more years before it really hits the consumer market.

[@ookami5329]

what we really need to make it work is software support. New games need to support it, and old games should be patched to support it.

[@rickymort135]

Full body tracking, haptics and force feedback with 360 treadmill would be the pinnacle

[@2wen98]

You mean... Hands IN some?

[@ShiryouOni]

I never get tired of your intro. I don't know if you came up with it on your own, but there is alot of layers to it. Seeing and hearing the espresso being made gets you ready, along with the song. Probably some subliminal/pavlov conditioning going on here. TLDR Love your intro, never change it. Unless it's a remaster.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Yep that’s all me! I’ve been through a few coffee intros- sometime in the future I will update it though.. but it’ll always have the same attention to detail for sounds and atmosphere!

[@Gr0nal]

@@ThrillSeekerVR In the nicest way possible, can ya learn how to steam milk better? Please? xD

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

@@Gr0nal LOL yes.

[@BassRemedy]

it actually played while i was getting my own coffee irl and it was very satisfying looking out the window with my coffee as the video started XD

[@Red_Planet]

Hopefully the PSVR 2 gets PC support, whether official or unofficial, quickly.

[@jeffscookies3236]

Definitely not officially

[@Technonux]

One-shot pfp

[@w花b]

We're talking about Sony, very low chances. On top of that, it's one more argument to sell PS5s by building an ecosystem. When it comes to unofficial support, it definitely seems possible to do, it's just a matter of time and resources.

[@notnullptr]

original psvr had incredibly botched pc support via trinus, so maybe

[@-Rickster-]

I don't know, some doubters here.yes we had trinus but Sony have released a full body tracker product and a lot of exclusives are coming to PC. They might just consider it

[@GragCM]

YESS!! I LOVE IT WHEN A NEW VID COMES PUT!!! (It’s Thursday but we don’t talk about that!)

[@ZayoFPS]

The future for VR is going to be insane I can't wait.

[@randyx007]

Yeah, hundreds of devices and 6 AAA title game lol

[@ZayoFPS]

@@randyx007 Maybe 7 😅 😂

[@randyx007]

@@ZayoFPS Don't get me wrong. I have fun with lots of half baked games but we do need more content...

[@Tanya_Von-Degurechaff]

There is no future lol, the world as you know it, wont exist in 10 years. We are in for a bleak future devoid of entertainment.

[@randyx007]

@@Tanya_Von-Degurechaff oh jeez, that's depressing. But yeah, humans are screwed

[@aloyminimum]

I love seeing Phia in the background of Thrill’s videos and vise versa. They never “collaborate” but it’s like seeing a team

[@BassRemedy]

the two beacons of the vr community XD

[@thelaughingmanofficial]

They were also in SadlyItsBradly's CES video

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

We've actually been together for more than a year now! She's a great VR tag team duo :D

[@Twortles]

Everyday we come closer to a comfortable, full body mesh suit. And maybe full-dive in our lifetime Another killer video, I always look forward to see your reviews of the things you've seen at CES!

[@goncalo1410]

i dont want full dive cause i dont want to have elon musk sending unfunny memes to my neural link

[@offiver]

dont think anyone actually wants to daily drive fully body tracking its so damn useless

[@unityman3133]

@@goncalo1410 you sound mad that musk is super duper smart bilionnairze irl tony stark king of pussy sigma gamer genuis. stay maddd brokiee crptoless

[@Nuthing]

@@goncalo1410 They are high iq memes

[@Aves_1]

@@offiver if it’s convenient and east, why wouldnt people want to for their usual use?

[@ContrastCopy]

Your review of CES has been a highlight of my month.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

THANKS AUTUMNCOLORS! This comment was the highlight of mine.

[@xr.melissa]

I was also at CES this year and I agree, the Ant Tech demo was by far the most impressive. I did the Magic Leap 2 demo shortly after and the FoV edges were very obvious. Really excited to see where that goes. Something else I really enjoyed was the Ultra Leap touchless haptics. The use case for consumer VR isn’t really there but for automotive and enterprise uses there’s a TON of potential!

[@GragCM]

Oh my life… how do they manage to fit so much stuff into the maestro??? I could only imagine the price…

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

It’s RIDICULOUS. The Contact CI people were nice enough to let me borrow a set.

[@applepie9806]

The price is $5000, from an article on the official website

[@ShaozenSC]

Great coverage, Thrill...I waited for your releases instead of spoiling anything from CES. I always appreciate your candid reviews.

[@afxn1094]

We're all feeling special this week with a tripple dose of Thrill! Thanks for the vid😁

[@Aeleas333]

Those AR glasses look unreal - I actually had to do a double take, especially when you mentioned the 120 degree FOV.

[@I3Llamas]

Love the img2img AI image filters. Visually appealing and they fit your awesome video style.

[@warnpeace5294]

I really can’t thank you enough for all the work you do to keep the VR industry alive. I absolutely love VR so much as it helps me escape my toxic home life.

[@MrRachnel]

Can't support aside from like and subscribe and continually subjecting my peers to your videos. But I was so excited about this one, and it was absolutely worth the wait. Thank you for the timely, honest impressions. Your enthusiasm is addictive.

[@wulfleyn6498]

I think combining the vr gloves with the flip controller might be the best way to do stuff. You get easy access to controller inputs while still having complete freedom and mobility with your vr gloves.

[@Mirality]

Imagine glove tracking to a virtual keyboard, then flip to get back to controller inputs.

[@m.ubaidaadam]

your videos somehow manage to get me exited to get into VR every time lol great video! do you think companies like meta or valve will ever implement vr gloves as the main controller type or would it remain a third party option? i love the idea personally, but i don't think everyone would be in to it

[@mjgrant298]

The Lynx still holds up well with not only proper colour stereo camera passthrough (unlike the quest pro and pico) but also full openXR runtime, privacy and access to the bootloader - basically a headset you aren’t constrained on unlike the big players

[@VRCentral]

Great hanging out with both of you there. You two are menaces at the after parties :P

[@philsimms9271]

I realized on the drive to work today how much I look forward to your videos! Especially the Tuesday Newsday ones! I LOVE your chill coffee intro. It's soothing and relaxing and just so pleasant. I love your high energy Tuesday Newsday exclamation each week, it pumps me up and makes me giggle with excitement all at the same time. Don't even get me starting on the Wonderful Meme Break concept. You are a Rockstar. I love your content, love your honesty in reviews and your overall energy!

[@BeyondtheAgesStudios]

The Lynx R1 is also the only headset willing to give us full privacy, no strings attached. That alone makes it more valuable than a Quest 2 or Pico.

[@larspossum9201]

Thank you for making these videos. It's been amazing getting into vr and being excited again on different things to get! Thank you so much!

[@greenberrygk]

The gloves that hold your fingers back are insane

[@mikhailplayz7550]

two newsdays in a week is the greatest feeling

[@Rrek]

not sure if you'll see this, but what do you use for your general VR playing sessions? Like, do you use top of the line gear, haptic gloves, catwalk? or is it more of a general consumer type experience?

[@ZacharyTrainer]

The Bhpatics vest already works natively with the OSC in vrchat. No mods required. You just need to put the vest (the correct one) on your models front and back! :D

[@applepie9806]

So excited for the Contact CI Maestro, that's fascinating! I've been dreaming of force feedback since VR started being a thing, I'm so glad someone is making it! Hopefully it drops into a more affordable range and for consumers soon

[@ghostdog0424]

6:52 liquid crystal light valves have been around for a long time in welding hoods, and they’ve been optimized for super low power draw and near-instant response times. Great to see this tech somewhere other than a massive, bulky hood

[@marcussjostrand5922]

love your content never stop

[@CallMeNostalgic]

It's crazy how much the accessories and tech are improving for VR. I would totally be on board if things like the gloves became the norm in VR.

[@mackemar]

Those AR glasses are so sick, imagine being on the subway and wanting to play some beat saber, all you have to do is grab the controllers out of your bag

[@redjules1215]

Loving all the CES videos. It's been a while since I've been to convention like this. If I can't see things firsthand I appreciate you sharing it all with us. So much tech cool tech.

[@kyle-ethansalazar]

Love the cuts of AI pics between the main footage, really cool effect for your videos!

[@nnnnopeitsmelori3073]

I ‘LOVE TUESDAY NEWSDAY!’ …On Thursday!! Thank you Friend. Love your VR content!

[@SwiftKey_253]

we are getting closer and closer to making reality of what older shows did, and i really love that

[@pbtrey8]

The first thing I think of before watching this video is how your hands get sweaty. If vr takes the glove path, hopefully they find a way to have a type of open glove that only covers your key parts of your hand so it can breathe

[@Rockyfromtime]

Thanks for covering more of the Brad 2023 event Thrill!

[@EternalRocket]

I would love it the "ready player one" setup was something you did every year or two. Just a collection of everything to make the most Immersive VR experience

[@jannisdavidzwahlen]

The flip controllers + tracking gloves would be the perfect combo.

[@Jc-lh4mr]

Sick. I love new vr tech. I have an index and a 4090 and it's a whole knew experience. I can't imagine having even more cool tech to enhance that experience.

[@cenciende9401]

Well I got the 4090 part but Index isn't an option and I've been waiting for over a year for the right headset to come along! Maybe this year fingers crossed.

[@The-Dark-Bat]

@@cenciende9401 I have a 3060 :( and don’t have the recommended specs for pc vr but I don’t have an index only an oculus

[@AbovetheLoft]

The diverx gloves look like they could be a really good transition point between controllers and full hand tracking. Future iterations of this would probably have a quicker learning curve or more broadly supported skeletal tracking which is really what we should be moving towards imo

[@csakzozo]

That blackout at 8:38 looks crazy on oled displays... I thought my S22U just broke...

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

LOL IM SORRY MY MISTAKE

[@Bahcorp]

😍 Nice to see we can hold and pinch air with ease.

[@JohnnyADi]

I really want to see a MeganeX review, cannot wait for it. Waiting on my Etee XR controllers, hopefully there's a review of those too as thrill posted his pair on Twitter.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Yeah I’m def working on an Etee video, got a few ahead of it first though!

[@JohnnyADi]

@@ThrillSeekerVR thank you sweetheart.

[@IbrahimAli-vt1fv]

I am so excited for AR to be good. I can't wait!

[@michaelcurtis7156]

Those AR lenses looked insane. If onyl we could get those in a small form factor and an at affordable price.

[@vexatiousfae7090]

Im glad to see gloves in production

[@sembalo1776]

Loved the ces coverage, VR and AR is gonna be awesome this year. And can't wait for some proper gloves on the market

[@KenjiBiH]

Man gotta respect all the people who are brining these VR devices to us consumers its crazy how close yet so far away we are for a ready player one / Sword art online type of VR experience

[@Xeemix]

The music on this one was really good!

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Thanks Xeemix

[@Silpheedx]

Frikin awesome coverage man! Well done!

[@HeartAndStone2020]

To see all of this in our present time, I'm extremely excited to see what is to come for the future of both AR and VR tech. Who knows, maybe we'll see some next level stuff that we can only dream about now in the next 5-10 years!

[@SimplisticVR]

One of the best KZbin channels!

[@Devibaba]

Very exciting. Thanks for sharing!

[@lightweighth2609]

Look how close they had to hold the transmitters to the gloves as you used them. The entire time you used them they had to pass the transmitter between the 2 of them so it was constantly in the right position. They are a cool piece of tech but very clearly a long way off from being feasible. Love your content!

[@gorgar3093]

I'm honestly realy excited for the OWO skin

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Same. It’s really fascinating.

[@Atherax]

Somuch more satisfying when it's Tuesday news day instead of what ever other day newsday

[@jakecreator04]

If I had a dollar for every time you made a video about “THESE NEW vr gloves are taking OVER”

[@Mooseyoosy]

Yo thrill thanks for talking about the PSVR2 and giving good specs on it, i pre-ordered mine a few days ago and im pretty excited, L ces for not letting you get a demo

[@MrMoney331]

Great video! Can't wait for some of this stuff!

[@Atomix-44]

Hopefully this year we will see insane developments

[@LeoEmpire]

Oh hey, there they are! Thanks Thrill!

[@Donnerwamp]

I'm looking forward to decent AR/XR/MR for everyday use. I love having YT running in the background when doing chores at home. Currently I either chose content that has visuals only as a "helper" or let it run on my phone where I can glance over easily. With AR I hope to someday in the future just put on some glasses and have a YT frame in my field of view and have some entertainmwnt while vacuuming or doing the dishes.

[@TimRicherson]

Why is the floor so shitty here hun? Oh, you know, the gameplay got really good and I got distracted. Lol, I can't wait for that same future myself, for sure

[@dnjdsolarus]

Great twosday. Calling Thursday that from now on.

[@chris_is_here_oh_no]

Amazing video, a lot to look forward to!

[@Tak3aStepBack]

Ay yes a dagger entering my stomach sounds delightful 😩😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@michaelc5373]

I can't wait to see you try out the owo skin! I'm very curious as to how you're supposed to clean something like that

[@lild1583]

Just crazy to see all this development in 10 years, from when oculus first released their headset to know. In just ten years we have gotten this far, and the progress only speeds up with more companies interested in it. I can only imagine what 2030 will look like.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Right? It’s almost a little scary.. but incredibly exciting.

[@randyx007]

It is amazing. My Pico 4 vs my OG vive is amazing. Had the Vive Pro with index controllers and wifi adapter and it is the best. But we have all this equipment and still not much for content.... So there is that...

[@natasha6867]

i didn't get to go to CES so im so thankful for you giving us the rundown :) 🙏

[@Rms2015]

For an amusing vr thought experiment, imagine face tracking based locomotion controls. Let horizontal locomotion be controlled through displacement of the lower lip and jumps controlled by tensing the upper lip. Now imagine the resulting facial gymnastics as a player goes though a typical high speed platform jumping puzzle. On a less crazy note, I cant wait to see bmi controlled locomotion combined with these electrostim garments. When we get to the point that you can feel reactions and haptics through your full upper body and control your avatar’s movement through imagining your leg’s moving… well, i hesitate to use the phrase “half-dive”, but it sounds to me like the next step of max immersion gaming on the way to full dive.

[@mmkhperson2]

ANOTHER VIDEO?!??! THIS IS AMAZING

[@fLaMePr0oF]

Best CES review vid by far 🥰

[@marxerr]

You ever get that you look like Chris Pratt? 😂 Love your content man very interesting and informative

[@ruevr6753]

Gloves for hand tracking would be awesome to improve the capabilities in terms of dancing in VR. Hopefully eventually I can get some sort of pair for finger tracking. I don't even need any sense of touch. Just the tracking

[@Beam3178]

Aaaaaaay posted 4 minutes ago! This is the earliest I've ever been to one of these

[@jd31068]

The immersion stuff coming out is going to take XR to the next level.

[@ethanbelton9522]

VR is currently going through a transformative process where we know what we want and how to make it work but we're still deciding on what should be standard. Similar to old media standards like vhs vs laserdisc the outcome will likely rely on what's popular and easy to manufacture. I expect to see two constants during this. VR as a peripheral device and VR as a standalone (PC vs Console)

[@daryladhityahenry]

Hi! Are there no VR Locomotion, Treadmill at all in there? Nice video! Really enjoy the video, and really really interest in vr gloves, touch in vr, simulate the weight, and of course owo suite, it looks really promising.

[@FrontwaysLarry]

Alright, that (assumedly) AI variation effect overlay throughout this video is freaking cool.

[@flokedoke533]

Tuesdaay neeewsdaay! It Just sounds sooo good

[@EpicBurnReturn]

I liked it when he said VR!! 🥰

[@jordanhogan8446]

For anybody wondering (because I was until i researched) the product at 0:45 is called the Mudra Inspire and it's a wearable tech band that can attach to your apple watch or be standalone to track hand gestures and even rotational data. It looks to have an open and actively updated API for developers and honestly paired with inside out hand tracking could give incredible accuracy with little to no loss of tracking.

[@wanaan]

I think XR glasses' best potential is as a giant virtual montior. Then other things are just fun add-ons. The only problem with this "monitor" is you can throw video conferencing out the windows because you will always have giant glasses on you.

[@opp6548]

I cant wait for the lead silk I'm soooooo hyped 😊😝😁

[@oneyellowpeacock]

Absolutely loving those small stable diffusion ai generated segments ❤️

[@MotoCat91]

Holy hell those lenses look fantastic Even if just for regular at home VR gaming.. 120 degree FOV is already above average but being able to replace camera pass through with just turning the displays transparent and looking through them? Phenomenal QOL improvement If the quality of the visuals while blacked out in 'VR' mode are as good as other current consumer models this could be huge

[@voidrunnerv6394]

This video needs to POP OFF Thrill!

[@davbhard]

I like to fly in VR. That's really my main reason I got interested in VR, back in 2014. VR gloves have been the number 1 thing on my wishlist for most of that time. I want something where I gran press any button on the cockpit, turn any dial, use the throttle and stick, and never have to pick up a controller. Right now, I can map a lot of control functions to different buttons and keyboard commands, but that breaks the immersion. I would likely pay a few hundred for gloves that could replace my controllers. Hopefully we see those for the Quest, and DCS soon.

[@IAmADinosaur7454]

Omg another ready player one vid would be amazing! I think your the first one to do that

[@swagguy47]

Back to back! Nice

[@meestuinier4486]

I was just looking for the second video to check if you had released it yet. Turns out it came out 3 seconds ago

[@Lowkeyidek_]

Yay cant wait to watch

[@t3hb1gr1gProductions]

Concept: Partial body tracking with the haptic shirts. Good to see at least one glove offer finger joint resistance, controlled by the system. MR/AR is very important, at least for games like Spatial Ops. Fun glimpse into the future. Gonna be awesome when we have alpha channels on glasses displays, that can modify real-world transparency by the pixel. Though it's also not as urgent nor important as other tech like environment scanning/LIDAR.

[@mightygreen3364]

I would love to get the Owo skin, but I feel like it will be lacking game support, and I fear that no haptic suit will be different, unless we get a standart haptic feedback API

[@ChickentNug]

I'm thinking the same thing about the gloves too. They look super cool, but I doubt they're going to have support (or even practicality) in most existing FPS or story games that VR has to offer

[@henrik1743]

VR gloves really excite me, together with haptic feedback this could be a game changer if given to consumers

[@simplyjoey799]

Ever since seeing virtual market a year ago I've wondered when I would be able to walk around a real city and have advertisements and things to interact with pop up on MR glasses. Kinda cool to see the technology is getting there.

[@GamerGirllllll]

The next ready player one setup is gonna go crazy

[@codenamexelda]

Looks like master shake's hands. Also, no more thumbstick drift!

[@machi_dev]

I've been considering building my own HMD HUD thing for a while - I think it would be nice to get notifications at the corner of my eye, pull up a video, or whatever - so I can keep myself connected while doing whatever. Seeing how good that ant reality display is, I might hold off!