HTC Vive Tracker 2.0 vs 3.0 vs Tundra Tracker VR Full Body Tracking TESTED

Hello! Here is my test of the much anticipated Vive Tracker 3.0 and Tundra Tracker VS the old faithful Vive tracker 2.0. I love full body tracking in VR and I want more people to get into it! In case you're interested in any of these tracker or you know someone else that is interested you should send this video over to clear up any confusion.
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[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Stay well tracked my friends. Share this with your FBT buddies

[@floppademon1506]

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[@blakebutcher2125]

cat reveal pls lol

[@jonathanbaetsen782]

See how many you can put on your body

[@brettjantzen5496]

Do you think that a brain computers interface will help out hand tracking?

[@redoneenergy362]

I think it’s funny I left the question on his last video if he could do this video and Now I finally know which one to buy

[@AleksWorkshop]

I have faith in Tundra Labs

[@Ujktitru]

r8 m8

[@BradElliot]

So do I, hopefully they'll have trackers that cost £80 in a couple years

[@fadedquill7]

Same, I've already Backed their 3 tracker bundle, I can't wait to see what they come out with. If anyone wants me to share results, I'm planning on making a Review on them when they come out. *shameless self plug* Never done a review b4, but I'm definitely ready to see these puppy's in action! I use vr EVERY night and use my TrackStrap Pluses with Vive 2.0 on an Index. If @ThrillSeeker wants me to help em with consumer trackers, here I am! 😁

[@suntake]

Same, when I get a index i’ll prolly get a few to test out

[@Pandora880]

@@Ujktitru rate mate

[@clueless6842]

I’m not joking, I literally got the last order of tundra trackers and I’m so excited for them to arrive!

[@vystorm]

Good score! They definitely seem to be the best in class atm

[@spectral_force5097]

I'm in the same boat! Snatched the last 3-pack award on Kickstarter.

[@MilotusLucifera]

lucky…

[@WizardPhrog]

They come in get? It’s taking mine like a month to ship when it said 7-10 days

[@clueless6842]

@@WizardPhrog The tundra trackers? No. They will take till September if you didn’t get the early bird package. Early bird package should be shipped this month.

[@Empyreusal]

"we all know that size matters" -ThrillSeeker , 2021

[@InternetPirate7]

😏

[@CHEFPKR]

I've been wanting to jump into full body tracking. Glad you mentioned the 3 base stations. Does it dramatically increase tracking? I've been thinking of upgrading to 3 for my new play space.

[@August_Forster]

No

[@Voluse]

think of base stations as a certain field of view if you turn around and your device becomes unseeable by both your base stations you're going to drift so by having three in a triangular formation you get all 360 degrees of coverage so even if you turn around you're still being tracked by a base station

[@moonoramaVR]

Nope. It's best to keep them at 2 unless your room is really strangely positioned. The 2.0 base stations have such a wide FOV you basically don't need to purchase an extra sensor.

[@CHEFPKR]

@@moonoramaVR thank you!

[@lelunie]

@@moonoramaVR uhm, there are some use cases for 3 base stations. Dancing is such a case because occlusion is a problem during certain moves.

[@tisups]

I'm not gonna say first. But I will say I enjoy watching you videos every day. I plan on taking Virtual and Augmented Reality courses at college because of how much I believe that VR is the future. Watching someone else making amazing videos on the things I love is nice. Thank you

[@lolmnater101]

actually same! perhaps we might meet in 4 years lol

[@TayoEXE]

I graduated last year, but I'm taking a Unity and VR set of courses online in VR. Look up tryuniverse if you're interested! I like it so far despite having experience already. It helps with networking among other things too!

[@RandomnessCreates]

Same, I'm just going through my Pre-U phase to get into it

[@kylejmxb]

I’m thinking about going back to learn it all as well, as a “mature” student … (I’m 25) I would love to be able to even be an Indy dev in this space. I hate my current job and i don’t wish that on anyone

[@zyphrono]

Good to know for Tundra: They don't have any plans to sell the trackers again (yet) after everyone got theirs shipped from the kickstarter. Just letting you know if you're interested in buying those right after the kickstarter.

[@johnbuscher]

That at least makes sense to make sure all backers get their product. Shocking amount of backers never receive their product while people who buy after the product is made available publicly get it shipped quickly.

[@SkySweeperSyn]

so this video is basically useless for TT since you can't even buy it right now. great.

[@alwaysyouramanda]

I have a suspicion that they’ll be somewhat obsolete come that next summer.

[@fxvei]

I was literally sitting here last night doing research to buy tundra or 3.0 because my 2.0's battery life has tanked this past month from 6 hour to just 4 LOL

[@Sparky3174]

5:51 An anime character was lost today as one of their limbs were dislocated and stretched across the room violently, medical professionals are baffled as to why this happened.

[@cat_hq_1452]

I wish that you could save comments

[@mcstuberYouTube]

@@cat_hq_1452 snipping tool

[@plebz6948]

@@cat_hq_1452 Copy And paste

[@madhero2333]

I swear the god whenever thrill uploads I have to confusedly look at the date wondering if it's Tuesday.

[@johnbuscher]

Tuesday is a state of mind.

[@grqfes]

you swear the god? thats a sin

[@Kioley123]

@@grqfes shall not say gods name in vain means using his name for your own gain, ie: being a politician "endorsed by God"

[@TheNONnoobXD]

Been looking forward to this for so long! Thanks for the review :)

[@Demmrir]

I feel like you missed an important fact with the Tundra trackers. Sure, the 3-pack is the same price as 3 Vive trackers--but that 3-pack comes with a waist strap and two foot-straps, which you absolutely need and would cost extra money for the Vive. And if you happen to want more than 3 trackers, the price drops more and more for 5 or more trackers (which are sub-$500).

[@Sondly]

It did if you pre-ordered. They won't come with straps anymore.

[@jefferu3595]

There is always Duct Tape

[@SkySweeperSyn]

@@jefferu3595 duct tape would cover the trackers.

[@yournextminute3188]

The Tundra is now more expensive than the vive 3.0: Tundra 3-pack and vrchat straps is $433 and that does NOT include shipping (Plus, the 3-pack is not even available right now.. You can only order the 4-pack). Vive Tracker 3.0's and a decent set of three straps are $427 on Amazon (and if you are a prime member they have free shipping.) So tundra trackers are about 5% more now. (If you were a BACKER, I suppose it was a better deal by about $60.)

[@jimmyallgood781]

times change in 2 years unfortunately, vives cheaper than tundras where i live atm (straps sold seperately), completely unimaginable a few years ago.

[@mrjuanito310]

I’ve been waiting for this video for more than a month

[@bruhthecommenter1664]

I’ve been waiting for this video for more than a year

[@Spocket]

I’ve been subbed for quite a while now, and I finally got a VR headset. It’s pretty cool. I’ll have to go back and rewatch some of your older videos now that I’m able to better relate.

[@lyonsdwyer5373]

Great video as usual. It’s nice to see Tundra hold up in the comparison, especially as a prototype. Hope to see more from them in the future

[@skysaber5640]

I love the quality of your videos, thrill! Keep up the fantastic work man

[@MuffieVR]

Great video! Thank you for your time and research into this, it shows you really care about the vr community!

[@sphin121]

Love the vid, thinking about getting trackers soon so this video helps out alot👌

[@xlNEWlx]

Finally. Been waiting for this video.

[@TwoEzDragon]

8:40 Yooo! It's my man "VR-Cat"

[@SargonDragon]

This is a better and more meaningful comparison than I've seen between these trackers on KZbin before. Others have simply waved the trackers around rapidly and performed other such "tests" which are pretty meaningless and don't demonstrate any real differences between these products. Actual tracking performance is the most important category by far. And where you're going to see the difference between products is how well they hold up under adverse conditions. There's a saying in the camera world that all cameras (even disposable cameras) are equal at F8, and the same concept applies to trackers. I've upgraded from the 2.0 to 3.0 Vive trackers as soon as they were released, and adverse conditions is exactly where you see a ton of improvement. Unlike the 2.0's, the 3.0's have dead reckoning, so they are able to continue to track even when _fully occluded_ from the basestations for a few seconds. Having the motion sensors to do this is, I believe, why the 3.0's are more expensive. The 3.0's are rock solid in my FBT usage. The 2.0's experienced tracking problems perhaps once every couple of hours when conditions got difficult for them, and so I was always mindful of avoiding those conditions. My 3.0's routinely go for several _days_ of usage without a single tracking error pretty much no matter what I do. The ultra compact nature of the Tundras has got to make tracking performance more difficult to achieve under adverse conditions, and your tests appear to bear that out. As you say, I have little doubt that Tundra will improve on the pre-release version that you tested. But I think the limitations are likely to be inherent. So I think what we're going to see is 3.0's being the highest tracking performance option while the Tundras are advantaged in price and size. Choose your poison. When you have the final Tundras, I think the best test will be actually using these products for FBT in VRChat. And doing all the things that make life difficult for trackers in real usage, like sitting down in chairs that have arm rests, laying on the floor, dancing, etc. I don't think staged tests are necessarily that useful versus actually using them in world where they will encounter all sort of random, unpredictable tracking situations.

[@gogreengameon2146]

Glad you guys are pushing things forward with a keen interest in FBT. As I'm probably gonna be the demographic that uses something like this when it's built into a headset, or one single camera/base station of some kind, without any need for body straps etc. I'll have you guys to thank! ☺️👍

[@flameknight7]

Had a chance to meet few of the devs of tundra at their vrc meetup. Very passionate team and definitely knowledgeable in the field. Can't wait to try out the set from their kick starter

[@Dammlee]

ive been waiting for this for a long time!!

[@Dan-Simms]

Can't wait to see the next video in this little series about trackers that do not need any base stations.

[@ismellpennies2914]

i am saving up money for a full kit with a quest 2 and body tracking, I've been researching a lot about it all and this video has helped me the most!!

[@TsukitaAki]

Never been this exited to watch a video like this before

[@kittyfluffins]

thanks! i bought the 3.0s recently and people have commented that my tracking looks good in vrchat. i don’t have any other trackers to compare it to but i’ve been having a blast with full body.

[@urbanvr]

Saw you on Eric4prez.... Love your vids. Love the way you put them together. And your opinions. Keep doing what you do!

[@cedmanotro]

I've been using the same kockoff trackstraps for 4 years, they're still very much usable because i just slip them on instead on undoing the velcro everytime

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

Genius.

[@hardtoliv]

Thank you for making this. It helped me make up my mind

[@KanaMau]

Thanks for the comparison! Really helpful video

[@TsoLIt]

I'm gonna upgrade to the tunrda trackers when they're available. Currently on the 2.0s. The USB dongle fitting in the index is a nice touch too xD

[@devilswings5907]

wait can u put the tundra dongle on the frunk of the index

[@brittlecourage9193]

@@devilswings5907 I would think so

[@TsoLIt]

@@devilswings5907 yep. Says it specifically was made to fit in their

[@devilswings5907]

@@TsoLIt no brainer then for me

[@argon6520]

Backed Tundra a week ago. It will be my first adventure into fullbody and I can't wait.

[@n1co374]

Keep it up! Love your content

[@geno_c1de725]

Waiting for this after the recent stream was a good combo

[@zentropoetic]

Great stuff thrill-kun

[@falconstarr2146]

I backed the tundra Kickstarter right after it launched. Super hyped to receive mine!

[@tronnick8323]

Thank you this video was very helpful👏🏼

[@inksans8976]

this was very helpful i was wanting to buy fullbody tracking and this was very helpful.

[@RobTopala]

yoo i was in this vid cause of the meetup footage!

[@Jaepeg]

Omg I've been waiting for this video for so long 😭

[@gamesfnaf2731]

About to get the 3.0 and I'm so happy

[@theflashofvr5263]

I’m getting my 3.0s next week and I’m so excited

[@jamassexd4134]

Let’s goo new video

[@egirlsrule902]

Just got two 2.0 base stations and three 3.0 trackers. I’m so excited!!!!!!

[@argasasrgetthe9032]

Got the 3.0's on day one. No regret, even after this video ^^

[@nimushbimush2103]

I love the VRC avatar u have at the start of the video

[@ImLink56]

Best video ever it helps me so much

[@GenerationLex]

So glad that VR has already progressed so far in the past 5 years :D I am glad I can't get more into it than a Quest 2 for the next 3 years, so when I eventually CAN get deeper into it, there will probably be infinitely better tracking and VR solutions available.

[@Fleur24]

In VRC you won’t be able to see the difference in tracking quality just bcs how poor the tracking works in VRC (there is a lot of smoothing applied to the motion). I recommend testing them in NeosVR. The difference is quite noticeable.

[@Dyoxity]

they all look amazing

[@donaldtrump2123]

Having the same kicks in vr is just a sick feel

[@moonoramaVR]

BEST SATURDAY EVER

[@reNINTENDO]

Been waiting for this video for a while, and it's greatly appreciated. Now the question is do I wait for the Tundra trackers to be more available or be impatient and go with the 3.0s that I know will be solid, especially in the tracking and durability department... I'll have to sit on it, but I'm excited to finally go for it. My friend that I play VRChat a lot with has full body and I'm still jelly.

[@cyphersam9436]

It's been tough deciding on any of this sort of stuff since basically anything related to VR tends to be really pricey. Not only that but having enough space is also an issue considering personally I have a pretty small room size. I want to get really into VR and immerse myself as much as possible in it since being inside a video game is a thing many people wish they could do. But so far the best we can do is wait for further development

[@KiegKillsReality]

Yessir thrill thank for you this one

[@datechnoman2]

Definitely considering getting a Tundra tracker after watching this. It has neat features that the 3.0s don't have, and it's cheaper.

[@harunadev]

Thanks for your vid! With your great comparison, I've purchased 3 3.0 trackers and they're on their way! (Edit: there were no one sells tundra & tundra kickstarters shipping price is quite heavy on my country so haha)

[@user-tr9wy7eh1q]

Ayyyyyy new video

[@thirteen3678]

THRILLSEEKER UPLOAD, POG!

[@Nanilith]

This was perfectly timed on my home! I just got 2.0s in Jan, and decided to back Tundra a few weeks ago. You've put my thoughts at ease I chose the right option to get tundras and sell the NEW 2.0s *big cry for my poor purchase timing*

[@marshaik9719]

2.0 basically better tho and longer battery life xD tundra using 2.0 really, no differents xDDDDDDD

[@Draz-]

If only we could buy the Tundra trackers. Can't believe I missed the Kickstarter when I paid so much attention when they first revealed the project

[@Voluse]

God I can't wait for deca

[@shivasthong4924]

what be thy deca thou speaketh of?

[@tylerdurden6917]

When will they release the decagear?

[@isaachenrikson3197]

@@tylerdurden6917 someday

[@lovainz462]

same i looooveee deca

[@Notavisionary]

@@tylerdurden6917 they had to delay multiple times due to unexpected events in the world (bovid)

[@HollowCarter]

YESSSS, i wanted this :D

[@Cybershoes]

LOVE your bar stools 7:40 :) :) :)

[@Thrillrider10]

I have backed the tundra trackers on kickstarter, and I am super stoked about getting them. It's going to be my first fbt setup. I still need to get the base stations, but it's going to be a bit before the trackers are shipped anyway, so I'm not worried.

[@TheGenner38x]

Thanks for the video

[@theflashofvr5263]

Can’t wait to get my vive tracker 3.0s

[@grummus]

Bro I gotta say those shoes are FIRE

[@zyrexxibii4708]

I’m getting the tundra ones for sure😩✋

[@christopherblair3667]

We need a follow-up with the new Vive ultimate trackers. And the consumer version tundra trackers!

[@steventwerdochlib5894]

Video suggestion: Top vr multiplayer games? I get kinda bored playing by myself so it would be nice to see what games you'd recommend to play with/make friends. Love the content as always :P

[@DAZNOODLES07]

I get 3.0's tmr, Can't wait 😁

[@Tkdmaster1991]

@ThrillSeeker In regards to the shoe lace option for the vive trackers, you can get a 3D printed shoelace adapter that the trackers can simple screw down onto. I printed some months ago and they've been absolutely perfect and much more stable than the straps.

[@kaeaja]

Hey there Thrillseeker, how are you doing? Thanks for this vid!

[@kopec2360]

Already bought 3.0, mainly because they are available and the price is final. With Tundras I would need to wait and also pay a lot for delivery and taxes (as I am living in EU). The tracking is good (but I need to buy 3rd lighthouse to cover some blank spots), and battery life is great. Also you mentioned need for replacing straps quite often: I am using 3d printed mounts, so mine Vive Trackers are mounted almost the same way as you can mount Tundra and I think you should also try this method.

[@RyePlaysGames]

Yes! Finally!

[@Sup-ri1pv]

I love your video

[@dusty_plant]

solid vid!

[@Gamen4Bros]

I want any of theseeee

[@Ketsu112]

would love to see a "megatracking" video, comparing literally every type of FBT! 2.0, 3.0, tundra, kinnect, QR shoes, slime, etc etc!

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

This is the kind of content I specialize in. I’d love to do something absolutely massive like that.

[@BattleDroid0402]

@@ThrillSeekerVR That would be great to see, honestly. Then with Kinect you even have the different drivers - Kinect2VR, Kinect2VREX, Driver4VR, and then there's Kinect 1.0 vs Kinect 2.0. I believe some people even track with PS3 Eye cameras, it is truly wild.

[@AdamG1]

Kind of a weird question, but watching your cat walk past made me wonder if there was such a thing as a tracker that can go on a pet collar so you don't accidentally yeet them across the room or squish them by not knowing that they're close to you

[@thatguysteve]

You could- in theory- put a tracker on them and tell your machine that the tracker they're wearing is a separate object from yourself. So, yea.

[@SuperSonic68]

I've got a bunch of old, busted-up Vive wands from our local VRCade that just went outta business due to COVID. I'm planning on getting the Tundra dongle alone so I can repurpose those wands as free FBT!

[@RadioactiveGamin]

Even though I don't play VR chat much at all, like once a week maybe. I still really want full body tracking

[@Skikopl]

I really love if you do things outside of tuesday newsday

[@sirossinner]

I'm still wait for Thrill to review an omni treadmill, I just can't trust VR products until I hear Thrill's opinion first. Keep up the great work mate!

[@Guardhousetv]

You're the most violent vr tuber I know. real stress tester

[@neromastic4512]

Well I've bought my first ever FBT whit the 3.0's And honestly I love em a lot. The Tracting is solid,the Battery's are have a long duration for someone playing longer in VR. And the Size is noticable when moving around but if you have had many cables lying on the floor like I did,they do tend to get caught by the 3.0 But overall I would recommend em due to they design,functionality and use of utility. The Battery especially is good,as I usually play like 4h of VRc daily,charging em each 2nd Day for 1h or 2h whit a Multi USB Charging Port.

[@GetzaBerry1it]

With these trackers going around I honestly hope more vr devs look at full body as at the very least makes it an option for games and such

[@KiegKillsReality]

Dang!! The Tundra is looking pretty good! I think that I may upgrade from a 2.0 to a Tundra. I want that small size and battery life!

[@yani1343]

Sounds good

[@awesomecatgaming7060]

Cool!

[@jaanikaapa6925]

Selling 3.0 for higher than 2.0 is smart. This makes the old stock sell faster.

[@At0maly]

Seems to me the TT is the best bang for the buck, and that's before full release even. I have hopes for Tundra!

[@Tkdmaster1991]

problem is...all the 3x pledge's on their kickstarter are sold out. If you really want them, you'd have to buy 3 of the $130 pledges to get all your trackers, making the price equal to the 3.0 setup.

[@At0maly]

@@Tkdmaster1991 that's just for the time being at least though. We'll see how it plays out when they fully release, if they drop back down in price.

[@AinrehteaDalnalirtu]

As someone who backed Tundra with 700$ I have full confidence in them to produce a product on par with 2.0 or even 3.0 trackers from HTC. As a 1.0 and 2.0 vive tracking user I have always had my gripes with their tracking drifts and battery issues. As of right now I'm thinking of grabbing another base station to improve my rooms tracking capabilities.

[@Ironystorm]

On a note about replacing trackstraps because of dead velcro I just put tape over where the velcro was. If your doing this with shoes you can just get a pair where you never take them off or if you are wearing them on your feet you can just keep them permantly strapped to size and apply more tape over time. I dance in vr anywhere between 15-30 hours a week for the last 8-9 months without needing new straps this way.

[@SkySweeperSyn]

was this sponsored by TT? you seemed to be very protective of it at the end of the video lol. But really thanks. As someone looking to try to get into full-body VR, and adjusting my rooms for such a thing, this was really helpful.

[@Technauts]

Both vive trackers are even more expensive in the uk, after converting the price the price for a single tracker is $155 for 2.0 & $182 for 3.0

[@dalepatten5612]

I'm currently using 2.0 Vive trackers on the original base stations. The biggest issues I have so far is losing tracking on my hips and battery life. The better battery life and possibly freeing up USB space is a biggie for me, so the tundra trackers seem like a good investment. Upgrading my base stations would probably help as well.

[@marshaik9719]

dont get tundra tho, and i have 2.0 and there better anyways and ik they dont last long but they are a tank instead tundra but get 3.0 there better then tundra anyways while tundra is basically same as 2.0 but battery life is longer, nothing really new.