Revopoint MIRACO 3D Scanner Review - Beginners GUIDE to 3D Scanning

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In this video, I put the Revopoint MIRACO scanner through some pretty difficult tests in the garage. Learning has it's challenges - I'll show you how I got the Revopoint MIRACO scanner to produce some great scans.
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@BillPhillips4 Ай бұрын

This is an excellent and realistic review of what goes into using a 3D scanner to design parts in your garage....Thanks!

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

Thanks, much appreciated.

@jayinmi3706 Ай бұрын

Coincidentally, Superfastmatt just released a video about using a 3d scanner on car parts for the purpose of trying to do an at home alignment. He made the point that some scanners have a problem scanning holes, and this looks like it did a great job!

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

Oh, I haven't seen that one yet. Thanks.

@jayinmi3706 Ай бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage I think it literally came out the same day or maybe the day before yours did.

@eccs19 11 күн бұрын

Good to see a more grounded review of one of these entry level scanners. As I was watching, what you said at the end was exactly what I was thinking. I've been doing 3D scanning for a number of years (high end equipment) and have been curious about these entry level scanners and what they can actually so. Your video is a nicely grounded review showing the learning curve, etc. Your suspension arm, I would suggest next time you have a similar project, so actually use the tracking markers on it. It would probably help considerably especially when you go around corners. Also another tip, when scanning larger objects (like your fender), start in the middle (using markers) and work your way in one direction, then return to the middle, and go the otherway. This will help keep accuracy better. (Your accuracy will only deviate for half the fender vs the entire fender) Overall, what what I saw with your scans, looks like you got great results. Some of the scans I've seen on other channels, you'd never see the threads in the scans, but it would actually just be a mess in those holes, so well done.

@SvenDansk7 Ай бұрын

I used to do 3D sculpting with Alias. We used a lot of 3D scans of clay models. This video is a great resource for anyone looking to bring this tech into their garage. 3D scans won't give you that "production quality" surface, and there's ALWAYS some interpolation involved, but it's a great tool when you're set up right and know how to use it.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

Exactly - I used to think it would be more magic than it is, then it opened up an entire world of mesh options and things in Fusion I didn't know existed.

@Rob_NABS Ай бұрын

Nice test situation and realistic explanation of how these things work. They aren'r a miracle in a box, they're a tool that needs learning. My plan for this is to scan in the reference data to allow further modelling from those surfaces. For example that car wing, then in CAD build wider arches to fit onto that surface. Right now I'm using the suck-it-and see trial and error method which is fine for flat mating surfaces but a heck of a job when it comes to compound curves. The all in one unit is a great boon for us Mac users too, capture untethered and then process on desktop later.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

I'm reviewing videos on how to do the modelling step now. I've got some future carbon fibre parts to build and I don't want to use the scan directly because of rust issues. I'm also a Mac user - so this really did work well for me.

@Rob_NABS Ай бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage Sold.. :)

@michaelfust9520 Ай бұрын

Been (im)patiently waiting on your next installment. Great review. My suggestion to all considering this is to learn 3D cad systems first. Without knowledge on the "what's next" level. Scans end up only being fancy pictures. Thank you.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

Thanks - doing my best to get the work done that is required.

@fopeezy3097 Ай бұрын

Man, love seeing this type of content. Will be great to see some of the things you can do w/the scanner. I saw Junkyard Dave's channel, he's been building his AWD Hellcat magnum wagon. He's probably used about 3 different scanners, and he had a similar experience. But his last video with a scanner seemed to work REALLY well compared to all of the other's he's tried. The title of the video was "Affordable 3D SCANNING Just Got 1000X BETTER - CREALITY CR-SCAN OTTER" if curious.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

Cool. I'll have to have a look.

@MaxCohen-ic4cn Ай бұрын

If I hadn’t bought and used Creality’s scanner myself, I’d probably believe you. But the fact is, I’ve used their scanners. I received my Otter 4 days ago and have been struggling a bit with the software. I’ve chatted with customer support each night, but haven’t gotten much help. Creality Scan feels like it’s behind. Cleaning up the mesh is brutal. Overall, the software feels sluggish; just rotating and using the lasso tool is really slow. In the end, I’ve given up on their scanner and requested a refund. I’ve been using the Revo Pop before, and after recently seeing a video, I’m now interested in their Miraco. Thanks!

@fopeezy3097 Ай бұрын

@@MaxCohen-ic4cn Thanks for letting me know. I'm probably a year away from doing the typ eof work where I will get use out of a scanner. Hopefully by that time the tech will just keep getting cheaper and more user-friendly.

@Metalcrafter Ай бұрын

Thank you very much for showing the struggles as well as the techniques you found that worked. Very nicely done and extremely real.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@peterwooldridge7285 Ай бұрын

Smashing...Admire your persistence...great tool $2100 here in Australia. I had a 250Z, 20 or so years ago, never saw any part on it as nice as the SKF part. Thanks so much for posting this video. Oh, and by the way, the garage looks exceptionally tidy...well done😂

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

Thanks Peter - I should put a coat of paint on those cabinet doors...or just bulldoze the entire garage and build a bigger one. LOL.

@Agroeureka Ай бұрын

Thanks for the honest video. Now I have to buy a scanner 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

You’re welcome 😊

@Agroeureka Ай бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage superfastmat also did a review of another scanner wasn’t an all in one like the one you reviewed but I think it’s hard to compare all of the scanners out there. It seems to me to be more about how much you trust the tester or reviewer.

@thunderbirdizations Ай бұрын

Pro-tip: hang the scanner on a bungee cord so your arms don’t get tires and so the scan is more smooth. Bungee cords stretch, so you can still scan in straight lines if needed

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

That's a great idea - thanks.

@kentmckean6795 Ай бұрын

Very nice! Thank you for the time and effort you put into this.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. I hope it was helpful.

@BLKMGK4 Ай бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage Very! I do a decent amount of 3D printing and something like this could be VERY handy. I'm not sure I can quite swing $1K for my hobby but man o man do I want to! Appreciate being made aware of this, as 3D scanners go this is pretty damn affordable for the quality form what I've seen. /Me WANTS!

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

@@BLKMGK4 Thanks - I have found it to be very valuable so far. The learning curve is pretty steep, but worth it.

@moesizlac2596 Ай бұрын

I think the learning curve indicates that the technology is not quite ready for prime time. What I got from all this is that finding ways to simplify (smooth) the input data is very important because the live processing of that data gets to be a burden for the machine. So it either needs more memory or more processor power (or both) to handle all the extra data that comes from a typical hand scan. Of course after all your time spent we all can now just make sure we go slower and smoother in out scans. But all of that will seem quaint, like dial up, once the technology matures. I think I can wait. Cheers. Good demo.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

I think that's a very fair assessment. I've used much more expensive scanners, and they are pretty robust. For home use, it's pretty handy once you get the hang of it.

@mitchellsnider4198 Ай бұрын

This reminds me of using my CR scan Lizard with a 10 year old laptop. I have a small desktop build with decent specs (ryzen 5, 32gb, 3060Ti) - I now bite the bullet and move that to the garage every time I need to scan because having that desktop power easily pays for the hassle when I lose tracking like 1/10 as much

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

It was nice to not have to haul around a laptop! I'm also on a Mac at home, so this was perfect.

@garagecedric 18 сағат бұрын

It was impossible to use my lizard with my ancient Potato laptop, now with a half decent one it works great and its a very useful tool

@insAneTunA Ай бұрын

Yeah a dolly or a jig might work well. Much easier to control the movements and to go back to a certain point. I have one of those articulating desk lamps, like the arms of an excavator, it has springs so that it will stay in the position that you put it. That might be something to mount that 3D scanner to it. If you do not have to hold the scanner with your hands you might get a much better result.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

Like a big lamp arm would be nice.

@insAneTunA Ай бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage For larger body panel parts a moving dolly with a smaller movable arm would work well. For smaller parts those dial indicator holders or something similar might work well. And then you can spin the part that you want to scan on the spinning plateau at the exact distance that the scanner likes, put it on pause, set the scanner to the next height position, and repeat that until you have the complete part. The whole idea is that you can set the distance that the scanner prefers before you do the actual scanning. And that you can change position and go around curves consistently at the same height and distance at a much slower speed when the scanner is fixed to a dolly or jig of some sort, especially compared to holding the scanner with your hands.

@rafall1118 15 сағат бұрын

Revopoint scanners hate flat and curved surfaces but there's a great hack for that in form of sticky tack or clay. Just stick some random blobs around your part and try to keep at least one blob in your frame at all times! Another tip is to scan your part in segments where you avoid too extreme changes in object's topology. For example scan the top and bottom separate, and then tip your object by about 45 degrees to get a linking scan. With these 3 you can try merging them all together in the desktop version of Revoscan. Scanning in one go is often challenging and this helps you avoid ripping your hair off 😂

@rafall1118 15 сағат бұрын

Oh and try to place/sculpt the blobs in a way they're easy to remove later on :>

@UncleSpool Ай бұрын

I just had an idea: if there's a 1/4-20 hole for a tripod, you should look into getting a gimbal. It should give you extremely smooth scans.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

That's a great idea.

@rabnawaz3347 19 күн бұрын

Thank you so much❤❤❤

@ThrottleStopGarage 12 күн бұрын

You're welcome 😊

@magomat6756 Ай бұрын

You can buy a spray that will disappear afther a few hours so you don't need to clean an expensive or delicate part.

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

I've seen it - it's around $50 a can and I'm told it doesn't go very far. As I was learning, a spray that disappears would have been a waste as it took me days to work out each part! I may try this stuff in the future.

@digital0785 Ай бұрын

are you leaving ti on auto exposure? i generally have better luck on manual exposure as when it adjusts it tends to have too much of a jump from one level to the other and loses it

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

I was leaving it on auto - I'll have to try it in manual exposure mode.

@digital0785 Ай бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage Yea idk if yours was updated but the new version of the miraco software has helped that but I personally I prefer auto on all my scanners. Also airing on the side of a little further like bridge between excellent to good distance will make life easier on harder parts. Closer will get a little bit better detail but moving a little bit back sometimes makes all the difference to your sanity haha

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

I refreshed the firmware earlier this week - so it should be up to date. Getting the feel for how near/far was tricky. There are a lot of things to pay attention to when scanning. Oddly, I had better luck with it free hand and struggled with it on a tripod when scanning that bearing.

@digital0785 Ай бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage can you merge models on it? It was in beta I'm not sure if it got pushed out yet

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

@@digital0785 You can - I've not tried it.

@iZX2SR Ай бұрын

Good fun! I might of missed it but what did the scan measure the diameters of the hub vs calipers?

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

On the hub - it was so close that there was no point. They overlayed precisely.

@SandeepSingh-43 Ай бұрын

Can you share the stl file for the hub or upright. I’m learning to reverse engineer parts in Solidworks

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

www.thingiverse.com/thing:6710342. Hope this helps.

@SandeepSingh-43 Ай бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage thank you

@SandeepSingh-43 Ай бұрын

@@ThrottleStopGarage are you ever going to sell the scanner? Or rent it out?

@berkeleytrue Ай бұрын

I didn't catch whether you had the pro or the basic version? I think the pro is just more onboard memory?

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

This is the Pro - it's got more memory and it came with the small turntable.

@starfox_wr-45e93 Ай бұрын

Scanning is one thing.. making use of the scans is another. Ask me how I know. I have a decent scan and data... now I need to spend 1000 hrs learning cad/modelling in overpriced software too? Im thinking about putting this thing up for sale after one scan 😅 I think im just tired of wasting money on inanimate project cars at this point tbh lol

@ThrottleStopGarage Ай бұрын

I've only started this adventure. I haven't tried to model with the data yet, but it's going to take time.

@Todestelzer Ай бұрын

Yeah with a normal CAD like fusion 360, it will take a lot of time reverse engineering it. But when you do a scan you either want to save money, can’t buy the part anymore or want to modify something. For the scanner I would recommend the CR Otter or Raptor (in 08/2024) if you want go more pro and need the details. I own the CR Raptor, Einstar, Einscan-SP, Revopoint mini v1.