3D Scanning my Lathe to Design a Carriage Lock

[@Clough42]

Many people have asked about the laptop, so I added a link in the description. Be aware that the computer market changes rapidly, so the link will probably age like milk. The particular model I bought is an ASUS ProArt StudioBook with an Intel Core i9-13980HX (13th Gen) and RTX 4060.

[@testi2025]

You can easily run this scanner with something like Lenovo E580 and 3060.

[@Clough42]

You're running an RTX 3060 in an E580? With this scanner? You're talking about the E580 with Radeon graphics from 2017, right?

[@testi2025]

@@Clough42 sorry, yes. The old E580 was with Radeon. And it could run the EinScan HX which is more demanding device. I now have LENOVO ThinkBook 16P R7-5800H/16WQXGA/16GB/512SSD/RTX3060/10P and this can easily run Einstar, EinScan HX and somewhat Autoscan Combo. We got these laptops for ~1200€.

[@Clough42]

@@testi2025 interesting. They're very clear about the software requiring an Nvidia GPU with a minimum number of cuda cores.

[@joetkeshub]

INteresting. Following Shining 3D's advice, I had to upgrade my powerful PC Ryzen-based configuration just because my Radeon graphics card has not CUDA technology (what's pretty specific to NVIDIA)... an unexpected expense. Of course I also switched to an Intel processor just to fit the software requirements as much as possible... Sigh... But all in all I'm happy for the smooth operation that the new hardware gives.

[@Factory400]

Massive over complication is what makes home engineering fun. In my professional endeavors, over complication gets me in big trouble. At home.....it brings pure joy.

[@mimu9599]

exactly my first thoughts

[@VagiPeti]

And you can learn a lot

[@Thats_Mr_Random_Person_to_you]

Agree and as others say, allows you to learn a lot of new things. So fun all around

[@sti302man]

🍻

[@DudleyToolwright]

The connectors are Lemo and are made in Switzerland. The are used extensively in the Film industry. They are also some of the most expensive connectors made anywhere, but also are some of the most pleasing functionally.

[@JimmyJamesMarquees]

As a car guy, who tinkers with 3d printing a bit, I absolutely loved him saying “All heil the algorithm” 🤣

[@billh308]

"And it doesn't look stupid, like it was designed by a 12 year old that watched too much anime!" LoL, love it when you show rare form.

[@markamy357]

I’m not a patron but, thank you patrons for helping with James’s videos which are a joy.

[@TheUncleRuckus]

The complete overkill on projects like this is what makes this channel so great! 😂 Enjoyed this as always James, thank you for uploading! 👍👍

[@ptrotter5223]

I love it. Great video on the 3D scanning, but probably your most over the top engineering and modeling for something that would take about 5 minutes with your calipers!

[@g.tucker8682]

Interesting as always. Reminds me that it's time for my annual suggestion for a Clough42 F360 course. My credit card is locked and loaded

[@jordanjensen3875]

James, you have so much knowledge and skill in so many areas, it never ceases to amaze with the content you share! Thanks for another ACTUALLY helpful, and EXPERTLY explained project. Still cracks me up how strangely relevant the videos you share are to the things I'm already working on/with in my shop! Specifically "open source photogrammetry" this time...I just don't want to pay that much for a scanner yet...but, now you've once more shown me there is " James - Justification " for this purchase! (It's what I tell the wife now to further justify a purchase when you review or use a new shiny tool I decided I can't live without! It's saved me hours of trying to explain these tool's purpose already!)

[@Blue2swing]

I have this scanner!! It's great. I found most problems associated with getting started with this scanner are due to user error. But there are so many resources online, on Facebook, and here on KZbin that its easy to find help to figure out what your doing wrong. Thats what makes this particular scanner great (along with the fabulous software). The downside is that it is very heavily demanding on your computer. If you don't already have a powerful PC or Laptop you can expect to pay around $2K or more for one that is good enough for this piece of equipment. So those of you who consider buying this need to include that into your expected cost. I've also found that scanning in the dark helps with small items, as the scanner has its own lights that focus on the cameras focal point. At first I was considering buying LED lights to make things easier to see, but now I just turn off all the lights in the room and begin my scan :).

[@robertlevine2152]

For much larger, 150-ton ship structural units, we glued small targets (reflective disks) on the units for establishing datum points. This lets you come back and re-establish coordinates. It also helps to ensure measurements remain consistent.

[@sergiomiramontes5067]

This 3D scanner is a brilliant addition and alignments perfectly with your other tools like the CNC. your video's are most interesting

[@airgunningyup]

id love to know what happened to the cnc

[@StevePrior]

Directly because of you my new Einstar arrived today. Until I saw this video I hadn't realized that its' better to think of the scanner as a "measuring" tool and not a "modeling" tool - the goal isn't usually to scan something, directly convert that scan data to a solid model and then work with it from there. Instead you are scanning something and then measuring/referencing from that data to model the thing you need. That insight really cleared up a lot for me, thanks. One stupid thing I've noticed so far is that Shining 3D recommends using only their original scan markers, but so far I haven't found that they actually sell them, in fact there aren't a lot of sources for them. There's also no indication that the glass calibration plate is available in case you dropped one. I'm hoping that both of these items are in fact easy to buy if you need them.

[@homemadetools]

Nice work. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎

[@VagiPeti]

Another well orchestrated amazing project James! Thank you very much, I enjoyed a lot watching it.

[@joetkeshub]

Awesome, pretty helpful and so instructive. Thanks a lot! That workflow from scanning section to Fusion360 modelling, is simply put, a great pedagogy - the best IMHO regarding the ton of tutorials on einstar 3D scanner I've been through. I might have said that in more than one of videos of yours, excuse me, but I can't help praising your work and your sense of sharing knowledge and skills. Again, thank you very much!from Strasbourg, France.

[@frigzy3748]

Two of my favorite KZbinrs are watching each other videos - how cool is that!

[@lwilton]

I just wish you had named the type of that new laptop! 🙂

[@meocats]

That einstar 3d scanner is pretty sweet. You'll be doing some next level prototyping with it versus someone who has to guesstimate with their eyes like me!

[@shaocaholica]

How accurate is the scan with respect to dimensions? Can you calibrate the scanner with some known object like a 123 block? Have you tried scanning a known size reference object and checking the error?

[@bengrogan9710]

The scanner will give an approximation of the error in scan interpolation - Like anything there is a sliding scale where as you scan larger items you must learn to accept some error But in general from past experience on something like a car bumper you can expect anywhere from 0.7mm to 1.2 mm depending on your tollerance for tedium, on smaller parts like the focussed area of the apron here you can get down to 0.1mm to 0.4mm depending on your prep work The key think is having enough reference point for it to keep thinks coplanar and rotationally locked - if doing a larger relatively flat piece it can be worth while to attach some neodynium magnet or lumps of blue tack as additional references during the scan

[@glenc90240]

I would consider milling some flutes (5 or 6) in the knob to give a little better finger hold and torque.

[@Abrikosmanden]

I can't even make breakfast without using my 3D scanner any more!

[@MrRctintin]

Thanks for testing out the 3D scanner on our behalf, it’s confirmed it’s not for me….. yet.

[@ellieprice363]

My first thought when seeing over complicated devices or products is, “How can I simplify this so that I can reduce costs and use it in my shop?” Then, after carefully studying the design I almost always learn something new and valuable.

[@ChatNoirLe]

Never really though about the carriage lock, when I first used it I just chucked an allen key in it and have just never taken it out. I got really lucky with the thread index, 90 deg goes from full unlock to full lock, only problem is when it drifts backwards and gets between the tailstock stopping me from locking it. Need to remember this for when I pimp my lathe.

[@DocMicha]

Even if do definitely do not need the scanner for this, it is even more complicated to use, you mad a nice tutorial. On other surfaces or objects, which are not as symmetrical you need a scanner .

[@flikflak24]

dear james/clough42 that connector is called a lemo connector ( just in case you didnt know and wanted some more of them )

[@Clough42]

Nice. Thanks!

[@_frio_]

Always enjoy your thought process.

[@radiantthought]

Was this sponsored? This is the 3rd video I've seen posted in a day about this EXACT scanner, seems very coincidental that you happened to buy one and drop it right at the same time. If you did, fair play, if not then I can say for this guy, I prefer to have freebies and other stuff mentioned clearly (or mention that you bought it with your own money very clearly). I know it's a pain, but there's so much shilling out here that the clarity is helpful in evaluating what I'm being told. Love the videos.

[@mihailfelixdumitresc]

Using your own mind when evaluating things is a must regardless, so it doesn't really matter if it is sponsored. To me at least.

[@Clough42]

Nope. I paid cash for everything in this video except the collet holder on the lathe, which I mentioned. I think the reason you're seeing this scanner everywhere is that they finally broke the $1000 barrier and many people like myself have been lurking and waiting.

[@radiantthought]

@@Clough42 Awesome! thanks for the clarification!

[@aaro_n]

What's the laptop

[@drxym]

That laptop looks so cool

[@rickmellor]

I also do whatever Matt Brown says but this time I had the Einstar before him. I also have the Revopoint Mini, Pop 2, Range and a pre-order on the Pop 3. I also have the Mole. For the kind of stuff we do, I find myself gravitating towards the Range. It gives great quality and the ability to do mobile scanning on my phone then upload to the PC for processing beats lugging my laptop out to the shop. If you get a chance, try the Range. 👍

[@rcsracing98]

Could you share the laptop model? Is this your future primary Fusion 360 device, or do you use something else? Thanks for all you do!

[@malbirrell]

That went so far over my head that I'm drowning.....

[@MalcolmReynolds14]

Okay, what beast of a laptop did you get for this?

[@SomeNameGoesHere]

I didn't know that laptop existed until this video, but it might be an Asus ProArt Studiobook. A beast indeed.

[@JasonTHutchinson]

If James ever gets really bored, he could always completely disassemble the lathe and scan each piece individually. The model would be much more accurate since all sides can be scanned.

[@Theprofessor1212]

What a nice project. I’ve also been looking at einstar for a while but I’m slowly moving to Mac based ecosystem so that’s been holding me back. Hey what’s the laptop model you bought ?

[@vincei4252]

What about a new tail-stock lever ? I've always hated that nut especially if you're machining lots of the same part.

[@MyLilMule]

The best way to learn how to use something is to use it. Overkill? Yes, definitely. Educational? Yes, definitely.

[@tecnobs3d]

What laptop did you buy? I have this scanner but no suitable CPU.

[@mxlje]

Coincidence that Stefan Gotteswinter just recently talked about drilling with the carriage instead of the tailstock again? 👀

[@Clough42]

Not as far as I know. I've had a toolpost drill chuck on my Amazon wish list for years.

[@mxlje]

@@Clough42 sorry, i didn’t mean to imply you copied him, I just thought it was great to see you using that method too!

[@fpbibi]

For once I got something before you did! I have the same scanner that I bought couple of months ago. Pretty cool stuff. I used it to scan a complex 3d geometry of an A/C bracket and pulley on my car to be able to remove the A/C compressor. I need the space for turbo things and it saves some weight... I guess I could have measured it, but it's on multiple levels and angles... For other looking at the comments, you need an Nvidia card because the software uses Cuda. The more Cuda power you get the better it is. It just doesn't work well with ATI/AMD.

[@ResistCircuitResist]

Wow, great video.

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Fun new toy. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.

[@TatkoMarecki]

Hello, how do you rate the scanner because I'm going to buy it, I don't need speed and accuracy, but I'm encouraged by scanning greetings from Poland.

[@Bob_Jones_]

bringing the .obj file into fusion really made it look like some sort of foliage rendering.. kinda looks cool though ....lmao at total disregard for the instruction manual and mocking the manufacturer for including it :) Very cool new --toy-- tool

[@thisnicklldo]

Looks smart, certainly a fun toy. Incidentally, I'm never too sure whether there is a contradiction between "Typical cheap rubbish, they couldn't even be bothered to include a manual" and "Ho ho, a manual, let's find a bin for that immediately", but then I speak as someone who always reads the manual first - please don't make me unsubscribe, I am otherwise pretty normal.

[@klw141]

James, Overkill-----Yes, but cool new toy. What kind of precision did you get from the features extracted from the mesh object

[@timblack33]

How about a link to that laptop? I’ve gotta break down and buy a high spec non apple machine for the shop. Your PC design comment was spot on.

[@notsonominal]

.. thats one way to justify buying a new computer. I like it!

[@konzetsu6068]

i'm a bit disappointed you didnt etch the top of the knob... also...boys with their toys...now i want a 3d scanner....also idly wondering if an xbox kinect still would hold up for homebrew scanning...

[@donswords6671]

Jeez James now you've made me spend more money! 😆

[@testi2025]

It’s not scan accuracy, it’s just what is the smallest detail you have. For this part, you could have selected 1.0. With lower setting, the scanning is much faster and you can scan from greater distance.

[@klaernie]

The thumbnail had me confused, since it felt like a SuperFastMatt video.. doesnt surprise me the least, that James watches Matt, i guess the audience cross section must be quite big. All hail the algorithm!

[@THEOGGUNSHOW]

Awesome sauce 👌

[@bhimapandava7767]

Y'all keep listening to Matt and things are going to get weirder than they already are.

[@Clough42]

Very true.

[@d00dEEE]

So, you're going to do everything that SuperFastMatt says? It was nice knowing you... 😂

[@augustvonmackensen9785]

Thanks…. That’s another unplanned purchase. Thanks a lot !! 🤣

[@dominicdiclemente8877]

Looks like a Lemo connector

[@vincei4252]

Nothing says overkill like overkill.

[@frittenpeter]

the like was due right after I heard 'overcomplicating'...thats my jam by the way...can u do a vid on tolerancing for fits?

[@martin09091989]

Yea, all this 3d scanning is fun and all... But in most applications it's way to much, and can complicate things more than it helps. Clippers, a ruler and a micrometer is all you need for 99% of all your reverse engineering. I regularly come across the original design of parts by accident. You measure the coarse dimensions, put it in cad and do some assumptions like rounding the dimensions and some radii and boom! You see how they designed that part! 😮 Getting data back of a 3d scann, can be way more difficult than looking at a part and take some messurements, because taking a messurement in a scann can be more challenging then in the physical world! But... It always depends!

[@lokom18]

I run einstar with stock Legion 5 17ach6h with 16gb ram and 3060 6gb and 5700h and its fine even so far

[@jpiccari]

I’m interested in 3d scans but it seems like the tech isn’t that valuable if I have to sketch over the mesh anyway 😢

[@Clough42]

It depends if what you're scanning is easy to measure.

[@w.lindberg86]

Hey James, I was going to purchase a 3D scanner this week for work, but I never considered the Einstar. Did you weigh the options between the Einstar and the Revopoint Range? Now I'm thinking twice about which one I need. I'll be scanning large equipment and occasionally smaller things too

[@Clough42]

I haven't looked at the revopoint, so I can't compare.

[@bobuk5722]

Hi James, I'm getting on in years so maybe this is me but the interface into Fusion 360 strikes me as a 'work in progress'. It seems quite a few steps are required to get from a 3D image to a 3D model - apologies if my terminology is wrong. Do you see this becoming more of a 'one click' operation or is the decision making process required too complex for that?

[@stephanc7192]

Good video

[@Myrulv]

Nice! Tell us about the new laptop, please. 🤗

[@Clough42]

It's black.

[@Myrulv]

@@Clough42 🤣

[@Vampier]

An iphone14 with LIDAR should be powerful enough for a decent resolution scan - I haven't experimented with those programs yet but i know they are out there.

[@basilwatson1]

I WOULD love a scanner however still cannot justify the price ... I will try the camera and mesh cloud approach soon. 😅

[@carlhitchon1009]

Why use a ruler when you can have this much fun?

[@FixDaily]

2:55 what is that thing close to the space bar? A Joystick?

[@Clough42]

They call it the "ASUS Dial." It turns and clicks. By default, it just adjusts the screen brightness and volume, but it can be set up to do other stuff in other apps.

[@davidthompson9359]

Thanks for the video. What kind of detail do you think you can get out of it on small items? I've been wanting to enlarge a 1/48 scale model and make a 1/32 or 1/35, but I don't know if it would work.

[@N1gel]

I doubt there are any advertising agencies that could sell more of these scanners than you just did. The company would be stupid if they don't give you a freebee to giveaway to a good cause. That scanner looks a great tool and I was thinking: if its that good now, imagine a few years future. Hmmm. Progress, that scanner uses 2 cameras to get sterioscopic vision. The computer calculates all the polar /rectangular convertion to draw the sketches. So soon it may be auto dimensioning the sketch planes. Suggest to the manufacturer, to put your name down for this upgraded version and you can giveaway your current version. Well done.

[@skelingtonrick]

as a point of comparison, you should try a free/low cost alternative like polycam, i would watch a video detailing how feasible it is for making scans like this. cause uh, that thang is a thousand dollars man lol. we dont all have patreons

[@MarkW321]

Nice project. Are you happy with your Grizzly lathe? Pros, cons?

[@brocktechnology]

I don't think this project needed CAD at all let alone a 3D scan but I hardly begrudge a man playing with his new toy.

[@patrickmartin3263]

Do you have the CAD drawing for sell? As always, you rock.

[@Clough42]

The CAD drawings for all of my projects are on Patreon.

[@seanwolfe9321]

Since there are higher quality, more expensive options, this will probably be snubbed... I use an app for my iPhone that takes advantage of the IR scanner built into the phone. I'm pretty happy, though the software that came with yours is by far better, but it's just the scan I need. (I think I paid under $10)

[@Clough42]

Is the result calibrated, or do you need to scale it?

[@seanwolfe9321]

@@Clough42 I have a 120# German Shepard missing a foot. I used it to make a 3-d printed model if his nub. For this purpose it seemed right, now something in this precision world? I can’t answer that. I think we both know the likely answer to that. I am curious enough to run some tests at some point however.

[@0ADVISOR0]

All hail the algorithm!

[@alan-sk7ky]

So making a custom locking screw to be able to attach a reversible ratchet ring spanner wouldn't do as well 🙂

[@Clough42]

Oh, that's not a bad idea, either.

[@bnwabnwa]

All Hail the Algorithm! 👍👍

[@Chromevulcan]

Overly complicated? Yes. But still, it's invaluable practice for when you need it.

[@KevIn-tu4fv]

What's your new laptop ?

[@simoncleret]

Yeah, I grew up with both imperial and metric, and when I'm drawing something in metric I still end up having to convert from inches in my head...

[@Hilmi12]

Hi, can you please do a tutorial on how to orient the model if your scanner software does not have that feature?

[@Clough42]

If you're using Fusion, there is a good technique here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHW6m3-racqcq5Y

[@Hilmi12]

@Clough42 Thanks, I will take a look at it. I appreciate the link you sent

[@roflchopter11]

What laptop is that?

[@webb3883]

You da bomb.

[@prototype3a]

Lemo ?

[@GigglyWolf90]

What is that laptop 😮 Please

[@matiastripaldi406]

I personally don't like that they use a propietary cable. It's the most likely thing to fail and those LUMO connectors are very expensive. USB-C would have been much better imo

[@Clough42]

I appreciate having something more mechanically sound on something I'm going to be waving around and dragging the cable over stuff. A soldered USB-C seems like it would be way too susceptible to being pulled sideways.

[@matiastripaldi406]

@@Clough42 fair enough!

[@xyzero1682]

"All hail the algorithm"

[@flowgeek706]

you should use superfastmatte spray 😂

[@Clough42]

As it turns out, I already mixed up a batch. I also have a couple of cans of AESUB to try now.

[@Kmnri]

Was the 3d scanning needed? nope. But was it fun? hell yea

[@ChuckThree]

All hail the Algorithm 🖖

[@xyzspec82]

Why do I want everything you show here? 😅

[@FullSpeed_only]

Please pull the Stickers from the Laptop. Otherwise the Color under them doesn’t change the same over Time as the Rest and it will look stupid even if you pull them later. Absolute Pet Peeve, but on a serious looking Notebook I try to keep it nice.

[@chrisj4570g]

I haven’t a clue what the word “overkill” means. Must be French.

[@SethKotta]

We all know the real reason you got the scanner was to replace the ball ends of your lathe and mill levers with 3D prints of your head.