Through the Griffin Door Supercut: Chamber of Secrets Chapters 16-18

[@aden538]

I like to think that the whole conversation in the Chamber was the Riddle memory buying time. Like, he wrote that message on the wall assuming nobody knew where the Chamber was, nor was there anyone who could get in. It was a taunt to spread fear, thinking he was perfectly safe. However, when Harry showed up, he detoured and tried to delay Harry until the "download" was completed.

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

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[@josephj.prioli1823]

@40:11 My new head canon: The boggart that Lupin finds next year was spawned by Harry's and Ron's impulse of fear and horror at hearing that Ginny was taken into the Chamber.

[@Shiby23]

30:00 if she's carrying a mirror around and knows theres a possibility she gets petrified.... Of course she's going to have it written down in case of just that happening guys!

[@theoldwaywasbetter6384]

55:41 Harry used expelliarmus to get the diary back from Malfoy in the hallway, before he disarms lockhart.

[@MulanBelle]

If you notice, both the Fantastic Beasts entry and the page that Hermione tears out on basilisks doesn’t mention anything about Petrification. It only says the gaze of the basilisk can kill. So if anyone were going strictly off that, it might not actually be common knowledge that indirectly seeing the basilisk's gaze only results in Petrification.

[@charleysylver]

lol- I love it when Ben confuses Obliviate with Obliterate 😂

[@MulanBelle]

The weird thing is, Fudge knows that Voldemort can return and says this very thing in relation to Sirius Black's escape from Azkaban. (Something along the lines of "Give him back his most faithful servant and I shudder to think how quickly he'll rise again.") Fudge apparently just can't accept it actually happening.

[@shinystarmiestudios4179]

It's because Fudge is a power mad idiot

[@erinreese1007]

2:31:02 lolz he goes “dang it that good” bc ben thought of it and not him 😂😂😂❤ love them totally sibling vibes

[@PerovNigma]

57:48 Since ghosts seem unable to ever get over their grievances, maybe the reason Myrtle wasn't questioned on her murder by staff was that she deliberately avoided them, because they'd let her get bullied and she'd built up an anti-teacher resentment.

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

Oooh that makes sense

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

That's interesting... it's not cannon of course, but the James potter series has ghosts returning after all sorts of gaps and I unconsciously went with that... mertle comes back after a decade, finds olive harasses and stalks her till she seeks intervention... by the time myrtles back voldy is doing his thing so Dumbledore is rather preoccupied and the information slips through the cracks

[@Jurtaani]

1:23:00 Then again, that possible charm preventing Fred and George from telling Ron anything about sorting hat, seems not to prevent Harry from not only telling about it to his son Albus Severus. not only does he tell about the hat, but also the fact that you can influence the hat and it's decisions by your own choises.

[@Lillith.]

As someone who rides a motorcycle, footrests are amazing. They aren't necessary as you could just clamp the bike between your knees to keep your legs up, but footrests are just more comfortable especially at higher speeds. Dangling your feet because you have to stop often is nice, but dangling feet on the Autobahn doesn't sound fun at all.

[@oliviaibriksz7355]

Regarding the question about the language we read the books. I started them in my mother tongue when I was about 12. I read the first 4 books in Hungarian, and then I got the 5th in English as a present at 15 and after that I read the rest of the books in English, and ever since I've been rereading them (and almost all other books) in English.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

4 hours of this amazing podcast?! Yes please🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@johnmartin9846]

Have y’all thought about doing a super super cut that has all the chapters per book into one nearly day long video? Something that can be turned on and just run all day with no interruptions

[@bghiggy]

I suggested this months ago and people scoffed at it. I think it's a great idea

[@ThatGirlShelbyy]

@@bghiggyit's a great idea! This would be awesome.

[@Phazer25]

might as well listen to the playlist tbh

[@johnmartin9846]

@@Phazer25 I mean sure, might as well listen to a playlist instead of the super cut as is. I just think it’d be cool to be able to put on a massive video and have it play all day without interaction. Or to be able to put it on overnight and just keep coming back instead of finding which video I need to pick back up on

[@bghiggy]

@@Phazer25 i would just like it as one long video without the intros or reviews at the end of each chapter. I mean they basically did like a 12 hour one for their quizzes doing that same thing for christmas. meh

[@frostybob1435]

I'm really loving the phrase " Voldemort prime"

[@GiantProcrastiNation]

"Death eaters, Roll out"

[@erinreese1007]

Ok i am typically to ADHD to finish a comment when listening but i have been ripping through these book reviews one right after the other for 2 weeks or so and i just have say my favorite parts are watching yall just be so in-sink as brothers and the way yall bounce off each other so well and also just love listening to talk before yall have thought of or are thinking about a theory like the diary as myrtles really cant wait and hoping yall come up with that live cant wait yall are getting closer to it!! ❤❤

[@rhondacrosswhite8048]

I'm amazed that Dumbledore hasn't been asked to repair the wands that students have broken. He has the elder wand. With all of those kids around there are bound to be more broken wands than Ron's and Neville's. Maybe even set aside an hour on Saturday mornings just to repair broken wands.

[@CHAREDot9]

There’s one other person in the world who know he has the elder wand and I don’t think dd wants anyone knowing most likely

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

I was wondering that too.

[@rationaltrekker2509]

The UK editions are now available in print and on Audible. You should get them. Iv'e had the UK print books for a long time and am now listening to Stephen Fry's reading. While I like some of Jim Dale's voicing better, I still really appreciate the fully British feel from the outset.

[@JessicaClark-lq4gw]

I believe in the books the sword teleported from the display case onto the desk to present itself to Dumbledore before he destroyed the ring. I like this idea of it presenting itself to Dumbledore.

[@ellessiricketts3280]

And who else did the sword present itself to in the past? I’d love to know that too

[@davidalan528]

3:12:42 I mean, in the end, he drops out of school and there’s nothing you can do about it - it’s just that the story keeps going!

[@lukejohnson4975]

What if Filch could do magic? Would his entire life be better for it? Would he not be such a bitter, resentful man? Would he ever even work at Hogwarts as the school's and castle's caretaker? And would he have any sort of impact upon the Harry Potter series as a result?

[@LeahGold-zf6jp]

Arthur Weasley said never trust anything we can’t see where it keeps its Brain while Fred and George are using the marauders map for years now

[@Karissa-i6y]

Ya🤣

[@manuelenriquez9424]

The map doesn’t think for itself. It just shows a map of Hogwarts and the people within it

[@Daddyoh94]

I'm still here for reruns

[@thomasnieswandt8805]

We know from Hogwarts legacy, at least marvolo went to Hogwarts because Ominus was saying his older brother had already finished school. The game is Canon also it takes place in 1890. 36 years before Voldemort is Born. By this timeline it must mean that Ominus is Toms unkel.

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

Oh, interesting. I've never played the game... I'm so dodgy at that sort of thing. Wish I could watch someone play the way I did with my brother, who was good at rescuing the princess in Mario Bros. Using his Nintendo decades ago. Dyk if anyone covers that content? Considering the relative who started ilvermorney was forbidden to go to hogwarts, due to pure blood mania, it occurred to me it wasn't that uncommon for gaunts to home-school... though for marvolos kids, it was more like they were the wizard version of 'unschooled'. Could be that son got expelled, (asked to leave) so daugher wasn't allowed to go because of the shame. My other theory was that Tom was keen to think himself more important than he actually was and has a dubious relationship with the truth and he was just brushing over the details when he said he and Harry were likely the only parselmouths in a melenium at hoggies.

[@pudupudu9837]

Just got to the question you had for international readers about whether they read the books in translation or as they were written. The irony is that in many ways the US version IS a translation since so many words were changed

[@VVOPOL]

also a funny thing - when on a World Cup they discuss like flying carpets as flying transport for a whole family and so on, Arthur must be standing and thinking: GOD i was so close to entering that market

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

😂

[@thedon4696]

Ben and J why do you not write a founder fan fiction about the 4 founders like you did for if harry was in slytherin

[@HannahEvansOfficial]

Love your videos

[@TheBabylane2]

"Otherwise were wasting a whole year here where you're not making any progress." While I would tend to agree one could argue that the handicap of a broken wand could actually be much better training in the long run as it forces the wizard to try that much harder to overcome it. Which, theoretically one should be able to do as wandless magic is possible.

[@Lordander1]

On the matter of broom footrest, it seems to me it increases ability to manoeuvre better and quicker rather than being a helping tool like a third wheel on a bike.

[@manuelenriquez9424]

The diary is important to Voldemort because it was a log of his research into his family and proof that he was the heir of Slytherin

[@undrhil]

52:28 now I want an entire rewrite of the Harry Potter story but using each of the Weasley kids for each New Year. Well, I guess it would have to be starting with Percy for the Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's stone, then Fred / George for Chamber of Secrets and then the other twin for Prisoner of Azkaban. And then Ron for the Goblet of Fire and Jenny for the order of the phoenix. And then have Hermione for the Half Blood Prince and Harry or maybe even Neville for the Deathly Hallows!

[@freetreasure]

What if the sword presented itself to James potter when Voldemort showed up and that’s why he said he’d hold Voldemort off, maybe he wasn’t unarmed after all…

[@rationaltrekker2509]

I don't think Dumbledore puts stock in the prophecy, rather he puts stock in Riddle putting stock in the prophecy. Dumbledore KNOWS Riddle is doing that, so he operates accordingly. This is what he tries to tell Harry at the end of OotP - the prophecy itself isn't determinative , but people's (mainly Harry's and Voldemort's in this case) actions, based on whether or not they believe it in it, is determinative.

[@t.j.armendariz354]

This. I think Dumbledore puts stock in it solely because Voldemort did and thus set the prophecy in motion making it now the necessary course of action

[@trys24]

Then Dumbledore should have fought Voldemort himself, since he didn’t really believed in the prophecy and so, he can control his own actions and beliefs. But maybe he was too old, who knows.

[@ellessiricketts3280]

⁠@@t.j.armendariz354 a bit like Voldemort choosing between Neville and Harry as the opposition.

[@422katieleigh]

Did Tom even have to get Ginny down in the Chamber of Secrets in order to come back? Like it’s the diary that’s connected to his life force, not the chamber itself right? Could she have brought him back just like… in a closet somewhere?

[@Huff-and-Puff]

Yes, but I think he says he used her to lure Harry down there. I think maybe he assumed because no one else knows the location of the chamber, there would be less of a chance someone catches them or stops him killing Harry.

[@t.j.armendariz354]

I’m pretty sure the diary is the first horcrux and I think the reason for the diary flipping to a certain page is because that page is the date the event happened the book says it has a date in the corner of each page so I think the logical interpretation is that each page represents a day

[@martijnstuart815]

What if there is a love version of horcruxes? Like a lovecrux?

[@R8CFIFA]

They have talked about it

[@mayalackman7581]

Good to know you don't plan on committing killing J, Ben.

[@esthertrklja8618]

Quick question for you, would the order have considered the Ford Anglia perhaps with additional enchantments to provide durability, maneuverability, and abilities, for the Battle of the Seven Potters had it not been used in Harry's second year? It seems pretty difficult for any sort of curse to reach the inside of a car (that can cloak itself as far back as Harry's second year) as long as it's built securely.

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

Around 2:16:12 The version i have, it's a spanish one, but they keep the original name, and what they did was put what the name means in english and right beside it they put the translation, i will quote it "I am Lord Voldermort(Yo soy Lord Voldermort)" and my mind 7 year old mind what like "WHAT!? IT'S IN ENGLISH! OH MY GOD!"

[@becksvlogs9057]

I don't think that there can be a Fidelius Charm placed on the Sorting Ceremony: Doesn't Harry tell his son at the end of the series that he can influence the hat's decision?

[@Boundwithflame23]

If we wanna go off the idea that the Sorting Hat is its own secret keeper, the theory would be that it got “killed” when Voldemort set it on fire and thus the secret keeper status passed onto everyone who had ever put it on. At least that’s how I’ve heard/seen it explained.

[@RobertMoore-mm9ub]

Love the video. I have a thout theory. It was Moning Mertals she was muggel born and she haf it. That gives it importance as first kill

[@TurkAmos]

Would be interesting to have guests like Seamus, or even fans of the channel, on to bounce theories and opinions off of.

[@watsonthe890]

Heyyy brother I've watched since you guys did unboxing videos with a big ole knife I had a thought about sir Nicholas Dempsey porpington is it possible that he gave a sort of sacrificial protection to the student and actually realized it was a basalisc somehow and jumped in front of I think it is Sheamus and that ghosts are not typically effected by this but this is the reason he turns black and the basalisc cannot kill? I know it's kinda far fetched but it's a thought

[@GabrielMRTheAnthologyOfLore]

Have you two already read Eragon's universe? (Alagaesia, Dragon Riders)

[@GordieKat]

The decades of DADA being cursed would explain why so many adult witches and wizards aren't particularly good at defensive magic.

[@GoldenCondor1]

I find it strange they don't include Hermione in the Award for Special services to the school. I feel like Harry would have insisted, she became petrified because she was get the answer to the problem. She added a lot of help, even if she wasn't there for the decent into the chamber. They are the golden three after all, they belong together.

[@Huff-and-Puff]

1:40:54 okay so hear me out… what if, and I know it sounds crazy, but a love story between slytherin and ravenclaw. We know Rowena has a daughter. We know there’s an heir of slytherin. What if all that friendship blossomed into a beautiful and lovely romance. Helena is born, there’s a rift, and not only did Godrick lose a friend, Rowena lost her husband, Helena lost her father…. And helga lost a cool buddy? Hahaha the idea that the founders had kids but no spouses that we know of irritates me and forces me to believe that they were their own spouses. Perhaps helga and godrick fell for each other, his cheery and fun attitude and her willingness to love all things food related make for a fun couple, while slytherins moody and secretive demeanor added to Rowena’s desire for all things to be clever and witty make for a fun pairing. I’m also a true romantic and can’t imagine a world where 4 friends, 2 male and 2 female, wouldn’t fall for each other after years and years of friendship. Especially knowing some of them have kids and no spouses detected. It’s fun to think about at least 🤷🏼‍♀️ Edit to add that I know the heir would have to have had an heir, so Helena would had to have had a baby, but maybe she had a little brother too?? Maybe he carried on the legacy? Maybe he sired the gaunt family line? Perhaps?

[@claudeclawsonne4510]

When he engages with Slughorn about horcruxes he doesn't yet know much about them. Go review that conversation. If he has the family ring then, I don't think he CAN have made it into one yet because he doesn't yet know how. Isn't that what he was asking of Slughorn? +If not for this piece of info I'd have predicted that the ring was first because if he slaughters all the Gaunts he's got the house to himself and can take his time working out how to create a horcrux. But given everything about Myrtle's death and the unlikeliness of the diary as a not-so very treasured item, I would say all the evidence points to Myrtle and the diary as being just a lucky (to him) happenstance, a perfect situation for him to test out his new information about making horcruxes. I would say Myrtle is not his first murder necessarily, but the diary as definitely the first horcrux, the 'test' horcrux. And afterwards everything else was carefully chosen for it's significance to him. By this line of reasoning, he'd already killed the Gaunts and stolen their ring, but that he'd have waited until he tested the thing out on someone else first before making the ring into one too. So the ring would be number 2 and the diary horcrux number one.

[@lkhai6243]

I think Dumbledore interprets that conversation as Tom already knowing how, but wanting to know how many could be possibly made. Because there were books about horcruxes in the library before Dumbledore removed them... I could be wrong though, but that's how I've always read it. Tom knew how to make them already, he just wanted to know how many. Slughorn didn't teach him how to make them in the memory

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

My head cannon is hagrid knows the warewolf (or someone who knows her) who gave birth to pups and can't look after them... maybe they're hiding from the MoM. He looks after them and puts them into the forrest when they can look after themselves. Wrestling trolls... hes training them, or attempting to, hoping that if they curve their behaviour, wizards won't think they're so scary, and they'll get more rights.

[@lyannarhodes5205]

please bring back Name of the WIND-s-day PLEASE i am begging yall

[@mikebrown1881]

In french it is Tom Elvis Jedusor 😙

[@Mert_Yanik]

3:31:50 wait luna likes harry?

[@billsmafia69]

I have a queston If Harry had a sibling, could Dumbledore have placed the protection of blood thing on each other?

[@RubyRose42]

I love watching you guys quick question that has been bugging me what if Dudley had actually been bullying harry on purpose like how some older siblings will do to protect their younger siblings from getting bullied by other people or to make harry stronger but still fully cared for harry bur couldn't let him know due to what petunia and Vernon would think

[@deborahday1007]

What if Tom Riddle Sr and his parents were told about the death of Merope and went and claimed infant Tom from the orphanage and raised him.

[@mikebrown1881]

If Hagrid was in Slytherin, why would he tell Harry that Slytherin is the worst House in the first book?

[@ellessiricketts3280]

“I shouldn’t have said that…” 😂😂

[@TitanWar93]

Here's a challenge for you, brothers. Since the alternative takes with Slytherin Harry and James kept the invisibility cloak, how would you see if you could work in these obscure characters like in the fanfiction community they always use Daphne Greengrass as the new love interest and Tracey Davis was sometimes placed as her best friend. I'd like to see your take on them. Make them how you see them and how they can either contribute to the story or be the characters that show that there are more to the book than we realize.

[@mikebrown1881]

The writing could have been painted with the roosters’s blood

[@Anabethbrooke]

This is unrelated but why couldn’t Voldy become a ghost

[@manuelenriquez9424]

His horcruxes damage his soul so much that he can’t come back as a ghost

[@VVOPOL]

i dont agree with Js position about the broomstick foot rests, come on, have you tried flying without them?!

[@KnobleSloth]

Why you both wearing speedos?

[@jamessmithson-br7rm]

You’re not wrong that there is too much leg in these videos 😂

[@mb-sb5ever]

Kissing - lips Snogging - kissing but with tongue

[@the_town_idiot]

4 hours of jay and ben on a saturday?? count. me. IN 🤩🤩