Thrown Into The Sea - But Was She Dead Before She Hit The Water?

[@Steampunkkids]

The idea of a possible serial rapist being a steward with unfettered access to women’s rooms 24/7 is quite unsettling. Thank you for another amazing video

[@ArtCurator2020]

I saw an Aussie documentary a few years ago that tried to document how dangerous Cruise Ship Vacations really are. There were many untold stories about ship employees raping women passengers. Because many of these victims were Drunk due to nonstop partying onboard, it's questionable how many of them even realized that they had been raped.

[@Steampunkkids]

@@ArtCurator2020 Good on Australia to bring light to these issues!

[@teijaflink2226]

Yeah, he totally raped and murdered her. Eileen was probably not interested so he forced himself on the poor woman.

[@ragamaffin8145]

Yeah. I think he’s definitely guilty of murder. Judging by his history after release.

[@EveryFairyDies]

What’s terrifying about this is that even now, with all our technology and tracking abilities, people who fall overboard from cruise ships are rarely recovered. Also, his whole defence was ridiculous. I know people do idiotic things in moments of panic, but if she’d died of natural causes he’d have had no reason to dispose of her body. Even if he feared for his job, he could have just as easily dressed and placed her in bed, and made it seem she’d died in her sleep due to her weakened heart. Throwing out the porthole proved her body had evidence of his attack on it. Though I love the irony that his cause of death was heart-related.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

All the technology we could possibly summon wouldn't make much easier about finding a tiny speck in something as vast as the ocean with all the currents and swells, even out in the middle of it. Perhaps if you land in some part of the doldrums, a fairly sizeable chunk in the Atlantic, during relative calm, it would get easier... BUT that's kind of cheating. I'd love to suggest everyone going on a cruise just get a personal signalling device that could be readily tracked, but it's just not feasible... at least, not yet. ;o)

[@PatricioGarcia1973]

They could issue trackers to every passenger with a beacon that would activate if it gets into the water. With todays technology it could be made the size of a wrist band. Like on all-inclusive resorts, people don’t mind wearing the bracelet for their stay.

[@ArtCurator2020]

Over the years, I've seen many cases of someone falling overboard from a cruise liner. Although many surviving family members make a big fuss about it, Reality is that the victim was likely Drunk when they went overboard. Their drunken state, along with the fact that they didn't have "sea legs", and the fact that exterior walkways are so narrow on cruise ships is a perfect recipe for falling overboard. Cruise Lines have often been criticized of "hiding the truth" about their loved one's alleged criminal demise, but the truth is that most of these overboard disappearance are inadvertently caused by the victim themselves. Dreaming of a Cruise Vacation is a far cry from the reality of what it's like to be on a swaying cruise ship many miles out to sea. It's a shame that surviving family is always looking for Someone Else to Blame for their loved one's death rather than looking at the victim themselves.

[@CocoWantsACracker]

@@PatricioGarcia1973 You are absolutely correct. I would like to go one step further: why would we be passive about our own safety or about making sure our loved ones are informed about our whereabouts if the worst should happen? We are all free to buy a tracker and put it on something we always have with us - glasses, watch, phone, wallet, etc. - and make sure the data required to track it are shared both with a loved one and someone on the ship's crew.

[@angelmorningstarr9504]

If she'd really died of a heart attack, why didn't he just clean up and leave? An autopsy would have cleared his name unless....it proved that he's a murdering liar. I'd put my money on the latter.

[@katarzynamariamuszynska2811]

Well clean up and leave? You should call the paramedics or something if you see something happening with person you are with?

[@MostlyHumanSlightlyCat]

@@katarzynamariamuszynska2811 sure. but the comment is refering to the fact that he stated, the shoving her through the porthole was done in a panic to not get into trouble. he would have gotten into trouble for her dying while having sex with him. the comment is stating that the more useful action for him (if what he states is true) would have been to make the room look like they had never had sex and leave her to be discovered in the morning, if the goal was really to hide his having sex. so its pointing out another inconsistency in his story, not making a moral argument for leaving someone to die

[@pameversole5886]

It’s hard to believe in his innocence after all the other attacks on 13 & 11 year old victims. (2 can keep a secret when 1 of them is dead) Thank you for another very interesting video.

[@nikolaykrotov8673]

Considering he was sentenced to death... He was still able to rape. Society failed to protect itself.

[@emilymulcahy]

Is that a song reference from the pierces?

[@NutsItsBerserkinTime]

@@emilymulcahy I thought it was the benjamin franklin quote lol three may keep a secret if two are dead.

[@zzydny]

@@emilymulcahy Actually the saying goes back much farther than that: it was published in Poor Richard's Almanac by Benjamin Franklin in the 1700's.

[@emilymulcahy]

@@NutsItsBerserkinTime that not what she said though, but those are exactly the song lyrics

[@PatricioGarcia1973]

He could have been innocent, but by getting rid of the body, he immediately made himself guilty. And just because a girl is flirty does not mean she want sex. Great video Paul, greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷

[@speedy7040]

not to mention that even if she had a heat atack, he should have started manoeuvers , and might have save her ...instead he pushed her into the water ... STILL WARM... still alive ?...yeah, he was GUILTY.

[@scoopydaniels8908]

Innocent men don't assault multiple children. Child rapists are not innocent people.

[@dp2677]

They should be zero parole & immediate death row occupants.

[@greyceeb7304]

Considering his history after his jail time he honestly makes himself look even more guilty. His conduct prior to the incident with Gay also doesn’t help him out very much either. I can’t help but see him as a predator when it comes to women and young girls. Considering Gays heart condition I can’t help but feel that she died during his attack on her and it scared him so he tried to get rid of her body before anyone found her in that state. I don’t really see him as innocent in any way here. His history of that type of violence against women and young girls shows a much different side to all of this. I do believe he attacked her just as he had done with multiple other women who testified against him. It’s a shame he didn’t stay in jail afterwards. It might have kept his other attacks from happening. Take care everyone 👋🏻

[@PatricioGarcia1973]

And if she died of a heart attack, why throw the body to the water. Because the steward was guilty, and knew he did wrong. Then tried to cover up by lying. Anyway you look, he was a predator. I can only imagine what he did until he was caught, not only with 1st class passengers, but with other women too…

[@addie_is_me]

She could have slept with Australia, he threw her out of a port hole, he said so himself. Why did he keep getting out of prison with all of the assaults? Judges have no accountability. Well told, very straightforward and without bias one way or the other. You all are great!

[@emordnilap4747]

Back then? It wasn't taken as seriously. Those women/girls would have been largely blamed, so it wasn't entirely his fault. Saddly even today these sentences wouldn't be surprising in most places. What's really disturbing is the thought of how many others never came forward.

[@addie_is_me]

Also, Yeah Winnie!

[@heatheratkinson7956]

I have no doubt he was guilty. What he went on to do after he was released, plus the other female passenger's evidence says it all x

[@pimpozza]

James Cam murdered Gay all right! If she had died of natural causes he wouldn't have needed to cover all traces of his heinous crime. He could have just left the poor girl in the cabin instead of throwing her lifeless body into the sea - allegedly stating, "She made quite a splash!" 😯 Great to have this channel for company during a bit of a sleepless night.. (big thunderstorms). Such an interesting case, as always.. thank you, Paul..

[@emordnilap4747]

Yeah really. All he would have had to do was leave, that would have been the instinct if he panicked. It's not like they could test DNA back then, it could have been any man on board.

[@danaMccabe-dagmarK]

Appalling that this person was repeatedly released to commit such crimes

[@vaughangarrick]

Fantastic. I asked another mystery channel to look into this story because I'm South African but they never did. So thank you

[@SpellboundWolf]

It's not unusual for a man to murder a woman JUST for rejecting him. It's terrifying to think about, that simply saying 'no thank you' to another person could lead to a violent end of my life.

[@St.Linguini_of_Pesto]

@SpellboundWolf ikr?? Just the thought that someone may not agree with me or feel that I measure up to their standards, then end my existence just to satisfy their petty bs is kinda terrifying. And my #1 reason to stay tf away from people.@

[@johncox2865]

@@St.Linguini_of_Pesto She was known to be a woman of low moral value. Why would we believe she refused him? Women are not superior creatures to men. You can’t condemn a man on the basis of raw speculation. There is no proof that he did it! I don’t care what he did before or after. Or how many times he changed his story. None of that amounts to proof.

[@jaynedavis4667]

There is not a woman alive who hasnt had some kind of sexual harassment from men, personally I have had to escape over zealous men many times, they appear to think their penis is much more important than anyones right to say no.

[@magmminaj6320]

Yes! I don't know what it is with some men and their fragile ego!!!

[@teslagirl1]

And if not a violent end, assault, stalking, kidnap, even domestic servitide(men have turned kidnap victims into closely guarded slaves...many men who kept a woman for weeks, months, even years on end made them work hard for every morsel of food and water they got.) The brutal truth is that men are usually much stronger than we are and the difference is often insurmountable. So...I think we females should all have self defense training...a good, fight dirty street smart course. One might still lose...one might still even lose their life in the end...but you can make it crystal clear that your attacker had been in a Hell of a fight and your marks and the damage you did might just get him caught.

[@marykrueger6039]

Another great job as always. Keep up the great work. This guy was surely a creep. Love the justice system. Let him out to attack little girls.

[@LloydEWatson1983]

Another top notch video, thank you.

[@m.y.o.b.724]

Well told story! There's a possibility she might have fainted. If her lips turned blue he could've panicked thinking she was dead... I do hope she was no longer alive when she was thrown into the water. Judging by this guy's history and the scratches on his body, it's clear he was a predator. Definitely guilty... Just a question of to what degree: Assault, murder, manslaughter, and or concealment of death.

[@anyathepanther7977]

The fact that they tried to destroy the victims reputation is just horrible. It is easy to call someone a hore when they can't defend themselves anymore.

[@Celisar1]

But, but she had a contraceptive in her baggage ….! 😱 Of course her words could not be trusted 😂

[@Maria-sl4ho]

Both steward alarms triggered: HELP!!!!!!!! Thank you for another fascinating story.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

Cardiac issues such as described can be dubious and damn difficult to treat. Even today, doctors can have trouble finding a sign of life, and if her heart was failing to a degree of blue lips and fainting, it's extremely likely that while she had NOT necessarily died outright, it was another "seizure" that made it much quieter than normal... He was NOT a doctor and certainly not appropriately equipped to make a prognosis... SO considering his conduct BOTH before and after, I'm going to have to lean heavily on "He probably murdered the poor girl." AND however likely it might be that she had expired during the rigorous activities of sex, it's EQUALLY likely she was only having a fainting spell and was actually alive when he chucked her unceremoniously into the water to drown, freezing... if the shock didn't kill her, of course... or a shark. AND defense of a monster that would prey upon children is absolutely despicable... just for the record. ;o)

[@RubyBlueUwU]

Considering his record, I think it’s most likely he was in the midst of assaulting her and she had one of her spells/seizures and that’s why he did what he did, I don’t believe that if what they were doing was really consensual there’d be any reason to try and get rid of the “body’ (you’re correct, it’s very unlikely she was dead and he was nowhere near qualified to make that call) obviously it was taboo at the time to be doing what they were doing, but he’d clearly never been shy about his escapades before, so why would he be now? I think she had signs of a struggle on her that he wanted to hide, otherwise I don’t believe he would’ve bothered with the cover up and would’ve either called for help or just left her there. I just hope she didn’t experience too much suffering during the ordeal…what a disgusting man he was.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@@RubyBlueUwU Well, if you've ever jumped into a backyard pool that was filled the same day, you know something about the shear shock of your warm (hot?) body hitting icy cold water... Consider a heart condition conducive to fainting spells and weak heart beat... AND multiply the shock by something between 10 and 100 or so... AND it's fairly likely that cold shock without her medication killed her almost immediately... (We CAN hope... right?) AND you've likely hit that nail... In that day, we already know how frequently women complaining of assault would get dismissed out of hand... SO he must've left some pretty egregious evidence on her, and probably "KNEW" (whether true or not) he had to get rid of her... The truth, unless there was something truly gnarly about it, was he'd lose a job and go on to find another one "business as relatively usual" if he'd simply alerted others to get help... whether or not she died anyway... ;o)

[@mommaof3_1983]

I love your voice!! Keep up the good work

[@allisonstephens1837]

I just found your channel and really enjoyed your videos especially, since they're from many years ago 😊 I think that James was GUILTY sad that justice was NEVER really granted to this young lady..

[@LadyImperatrix]

I"m always so happy to see a new "Well, I Never" video! You are such an incredible story teller, even when the story is as dark and disturbing as this one. Thank you for all your great videos...looking forward to the next one!!!

[@joannenoble291]

Another great video of unknown case. Keep up the excellent work Paul

[@ResidentEvie74]

Perfect timing! I've just made a cuppa!

[@ariel393939]

I don't believe a word he said. Why dispose of her body in this fashion if he was innocent ? And still to this day they continue to let these bastards out of prison to continue to commit crimes against women and children, for the law does not care. If they are charged to begin with. Light sentences, they make me sick ! His victims got younger, but who cares ? Nothing new under the sun.

[@selenaherring1279]

Thank you for sharing an amazing but sad story. I love learning about history even the terrible things,that happened in tje past because after all it's stories that should be told so they are not forgotten.

[@carin1000]

The description of Eileen's attention to James just sounds like a would-be starlet playing to her fan base rather than actual interest.

[@robwilgenhof4386]

I thoroughly enjoy your presentations !!!

[@qrufus]

A Benjamin Franklin quote I learned about is "Half the Truth is often a great Lie". It could be applied to this case. It's possible that Camb attempted to attack Gay, but she might've fainted during it. If her lips were blue (like a witness previously mentioned), that's when he panicked and pushed her through the porthole.

[@ralphe5842]

Bull this guy is a narcissist he killed her after she turned him down

[@nobbynoris]

I am a firm believer in sod's law. Sod's law will have its merry way with all of us, do what we will. To apply the principles of sod's law to this case: the murder of Eileen Gibson might actually have been the one time this lowlife really was innocent.

[@stevenwarn4131]

Stumbled upon. Impressed. Subscribed.

[@eleshasmith6064]

Excellent work as always. Thank you!

[@ladyfarona1988]

Here's the thing. If she DID die from a heart ailment, he didn't have to be a cvnt and throw her out the window!! An autopsy would've proved that he didn't commit murder! So what was there to hide?? Murder, obviously! I think he did, in fact, kill her. Just because she flirted with him didn't mean she wanted to sleep with him. And if he came off as aggressive she would have quickly said woah wait a minute sir stop it. Based on his record in the years after the incident, I fully believe he used and abused women AND children (11 and 13 year olds?! Really??), had no respect for anyone and was just a miserable, manipulative person looking for self gratification by any means necessary.

[@alonnahcasey8556]

will say it again, you kind Sir,are Top Tier 🤗🤗🤗 please Never stop 🛑🛑

[@Celisar1]

There is little I find more frightening than the idea of being thrown overboard in the middle of the ocean with absolute certainty of drowning or attacked by sharks. Anybody who does that deserves the most severe punishment in existence.

[@renee1961]

Good afternoon, and Thank You for an Excellent video! Have a good week!

[@tashuntka]

When you say "Oh yeahhhh!" upon seeing a new one of his vids.. (Moment you realise you are clearly a true fan)

[@tashuntka]

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛

[@shannonflaherty2689]

If she had a contraceptive would she not have been using it if they were hooking up? Im assuming it was disc so you have to wear it for it to work

[@nancymills1884]

Contraceptives for women were not available in the 1940’s. It was a man’s responsibility. And we know how well that works.

[@mickfromleitrim]

I wondered the same thing.

[@shannonflaherty2689]

@@mickfromleitrim im not sure of they had condoms widely available yet but i think they did so maybe it was a condom.

[@sarajane46321]

An unfortunate and sad story told by a master! Your channel is wonderful!

[@michaelakoristova1606]

One of my favourite cases. Thank you.

[@mikaelafox6106]

If she honestly died naturally during smex, all he had to do was leave her body to be found in the morning. That’s all. He didn’t have to shove her body through a porthole. I think he strangled her after or as he was assaulting her, which is why he was scratched up and why he got rid of her body the way he did. He should never have been released from prison. The justice system failed the children he assaulted.

[@Flamsterette]

Thanks for the upload during my September 2022 birthday month!

[@chatita9527]

Thank you for this story. ♥️😁👍🇩🇪 A person knowing to have a heart condition, even fainting with blue lips, is very unlikely to have voluntarily any WILD activity in such a harsh way as to die from it, especially a young girl. I do believe he killed her, AND on top he was a sexual predator! He should have been locked away from the start. Sexual predators do not change and do not deserve "a second chance", so that they can prey on other women/children again. The way you tell these stories is superb! ♥️

[@blackgirlcouchreviews]

It’s disgusting how this man was allowed release and immediately went after easier and easier prey showcasing he was a sexual predator no yet people still defend him 😒

[@CocoWantsACracker]

My thought exactly! I understand people might think he shouldn't have been charged with murder, but considering what the man did whenever he was out and about in society, I would not have voiced that thought without at least adding that it was a good thing the guy was kept off the streets for at least some time before be able to do more disgusting things. The problem is that had he been hanged, he would never have made more victims, but we also never would have known what kind of vile person he really was.

[@ahuddleston6512]

Your channel should have a warning on how addictive it is😉 Keep up the awesome work!

[@stucook8622]

Thanks for another excellent video.

[@reneetubeaddict9757]

I wouldn’t loose any sleep regarding his innocence. His conduct after his first prison stint speaks volumes. ☝️

[@Missstarpro16]

I haven’t finished the video yet (I will) but he did it. Flirting isn’t consent, coercion isn’t consent, he has a history of SA, and the evidence doesn’t line up with his story.

[@trj1442]

That was an excellent episode. Thankyou for your always awesome content.

[@roscoewhite3793]

The timing of this story is interesting; just this week there was a conviction and sentencing in Australia for a murder in which the body was never found. That prompts me to suggest the Murchison Murders, in which the answer to an aspiring novelist's question about how the perfect murder might be carried out inspired an actual murderer, as a subject for Mr Brodie.

[@NastyWoman1979]

I like reading the comments for new case ideas to research Down the rabbit hole I go... already looking for my next video.

[@karinac.3378]

Finally the day is over and I can watch the video! ❤️

[@m.f.grabham192]

Thanks for another fascinating mystery. This story struck me as being very similar to a “lost overboard” whodunit some 10 years earlier. In 1937, the roles were reversed and it was a famous male actor called Frank Vosper, who mysteriously plunged to his death from the state room veranda of Miss Muriel Oxford - a Miss Great Britain beauty queen, model, and aspiring actress (and my mother’s cousin). Press Speculation was rife with rumours such as, Muriel had turned down Frank’s marriage proposal, and in a fit of despair he had thrown himself into the English Channel. Frank Vosper was a well-known homosexual, so this seems very unlikely. The fact that Frank was gay was of course not reported in the newspapers, as at the time, this was a criminal offence. Was his death; suicide, accident or was he assisted into the hereafter?

[@nobbynoris]

If James Camb had had you surname it would have been just too brilliant.

[@ZosoHacker]

I absolutely love your channel. Fantastic delivery every time.

[@patriciafeehan7732]

You have a very good reading voice and I hope you get to do ebooks.

[@thejudgmentalcat]

Camb just got slimier and slimier in this story 🤢 Thank you Paul, tell Spongey I said hi 😉

[@joanndallas4683]

Wonderful presentation! Looking forward to your next.

[@rolfsinkgraven]

Love these videos you are the best.

[@davyd5629]

Love the well I never store's well read and presented

[@patsiwright6814]

Love your content, brilliant

[@vivian2822]

I have never heard of her before. This was horrible. Thank you so much. I get so excited when I see a new video from you. You are awesome. I love your beard

[@lovingit4450]

My stomach is upset over the fact he forced her through a port hole . Those port holes are not big . This man trying to write a book is even more sicking. He should never have been freed from prison

[@anneinnes5691]

Great presentation as ever- Thankyou. I’m wondering…. Is your background music by Pink Floyd?

[@deniseelsworth7816]

He was obviously a murderer. His story is ridiculous.

[@kerry7216]

Well, I never, I don't know if he killed her or not but what I or the prosecution thinks doesn't constitute evidence, not even close, and womanizing doesn't make you a murderer only a philanderer; now throwing a body out of a porthole and interfering with children does make you a monster 👹

[@wht-rabt-obj]

These videos are fascinating!

[@IntrepidFraidyCat]

I hadn't heard about this case! Either way, he was responsible for her death. Poor woman.

[@austake]

Love these videos

[@lisabarr6004]

Good morning!, I just made my coffee and enjoyed another excellent episode 👌 Your sub from Ont. Canada 🇨🇦 Take care!

[@Paroxid]

I’m just amazed by the fact that he managed to get a grown woman through that opening. It looks pretty tiny to me.

[@jstringfellow1961]

I'm actually surprised that the captain would think they could find her body. There's no way. It's GONE. You don't just turn a cruise ship around in a few minutes. By the time she hit the water she was probably already dead. Just so terrible on so many levels. Twenty-one is too young to be traveling alone really; I mean, it's not, but why would anyone want to do that? She may have been spared if she had been with someone as a companion or friend. For him to be attacking younger girls later in life is so disgusting. I'm sorry he was ever released.

[@ecm84ee]

It doesn't matter how big someone is, do you have any idea how hard it is for a human body alive let alone dead to fit through a port hole? He has to be one hell of a bastard.

[@phaedrawidney5246]

A darker one but top notch video as usual!

[@amyjones8114]

I indeed always end up saying, well, I never, after watching these videos 😳

[@zachariatekawaare4761]

I thoroughly enjoy this gent's narration. Kia mihi

[@tracynonumbers]

Dear MrBrodie, It's entirely possible she was awakened by landing in the water! How awful. The charges ought to have included something related to him being a representative of the ship...breach of a trusted position or some such. Thank you always!

[@alison__16]

Not the only actress to meet a suspicious death at sea. Natalie Wood springs to mind.

[@noneofyourbizness]

interesting cases that we're pretty much guaranteed to have no prior knowledge of. result: watch as soon as possible.

[@EIRE55]

You definitely have a Scottish twinge in your words, Paul, and I love the way you speak. Thank you for another very interesting story.😊

[@moominesque6081]

I feel Gay must have either been dead, or at least unconscious - it would be very difficult to push someone conscious through a porthole. If she died of natural causes, wouldn't he have just walked away? I think it was likely murder, and disposing of the body would mean possibly few questions to passengers and crew - someone falling overboad is possible, and they would be unlikely to ever be recovered.

[@samhain1894]

I think there is a retelling of this on the old time radio show The Black Museum.

[@St.Linguini_of_Pesto]

Simon Whistler: when I grow up, I'm wanna be just like Paul Brodie. Paul: just keep doing the crime stories, lad.

[@ladymeghenderson9337]

When was this televised and was it a film. Happy New year to you all

[@mainlyfine]

This one was a ripsnorter. More please.🙂

[@brianedwards7142]

People are surprisingly heavy in my experience and portholes are shoulder height. Stuffing a person out of a porthole would be pretty strenuous. Not beyond a fit man's abilities though.

[@stanjuan1178]

Purely for the sake of argument. Even if she had died in the way he claimed, he should have been put in prison for life for desecrating the body by throwing it overboard. That Point/Fact alone is undeniable. You don't get to throw a body overboard for any reason and not face life in prison in my opinion.

[@mrsdoyle6828]

Have I got the timing wrong or did he know he'd been seen in her room by the other steward before she died?

[@gennydickie9623]

Great video

[@LoveLee_Dreamer]

I love (sarcasm) that it is TO THIS DAY not uncommon for lawrrs to blame victims for their being attacked. The defense really said "Yeah, he is a confirmed se×ual pred@tor, but SHE has a lot of sex with married men, and therefore this is somehow her own fault!"

[@grettagirl2884]

James was a real prize...NOT! Good storytelling, as usual, Mr Brodie! Cheers!

[@michellegable3191]

Such a tragedy he should never been released. Look at all the extra pain he caused, he was grimy through, and through till the end.

[@scenicenglish7465]

I've heard it said that not all narcissists are womanizers but almost all womanizers are narcissists. Camb definitely fits the statement but also took it to the point of violence; as evidenced by previous females before Gibson. Seems like his ego was damaged during the encounter and induced rage, maybe there was sex or not, but in any case attacking and killing her.

[@renee1961]

How Very Sad for Gay, and her Family.🥀🥀🥀🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️ She was Beautiful!

[@TeraunceFoaloke]

Well, I never heard this case before but what a murky one it was. Nice video putting together what little info there was but my vote is he was guilty.

[@DoctorCheryl]

it's a shame that Ruth Davis didn't get her sentence commuted as well = a later case of murder and obviously there was talk of eliminating the death penalty. Also that young chap put to death for the Rillington Place murders.

[@mickfromleitrim]

Timothy Evans, poor lad was just a bit simple. Got a posthumous pardon in '66 for what it was worth.

[@romystumpy1197]

Camb was a predator,he had attempted to strangle and s.a.3 young female passengers before he killed gay

[@jasonroberts4470]

Thanks 😊

[@HartKent]

On a side note - there was a rumour she was returning to England to find Sid James (carry on star) as she was his jilted lover. There’s a huge division in James’ biographers as to if this is true or not

[@Inklenation]

Well I never!

[@slomo1716]

Well, I NEVER!! Seems I am smarter than the average bear, by my refusing to go on any cruise ship, they can be death traps, in more way than one!

[@jstone247]

I agree. Once at sea you are at the mercy of crew or other passengers. Ships at sea are in a state of lawlessness. Rapes, and other crimes occur at sea or passengers disappear overboard. There is no police, no framework to enforce due process. I would not trust a ships Captain( who is beholden to his maritime employer) to act in any victims best interests. Plus cruise ships are unhygienic, virus infested and re-cycle stale polluted air.

[@vitsirosh3722]

I see a neatly groomed bearded man in a dress shirt dressed not of this age and a soft-spoken matter of fact way of storytelling behind a warmly lit room and I subscribe

[@St.Linguini_of_Pesto]

I keep seeing these Blue Bunny ice cream ads.. all they make me think about: how _badly_ that I wish I had a talking bunny wabbit. 💖🐇💖 Sheesh.. and I'm 51. SMMFH. 😖

[@naarahjanemorris3121]

Thanks Paul again for sharing this Sad true story I think he strangled her & dumped her something doesn't add up why would she press the buttons for both Stewardess & Steward that doesn't make sense I think he killed her because he didn't like been rejected it's so Sad that her body was never found only the ship would know exactly what happened on that Sad day RIP Sweet Angel it should never of happened to you Bless her he was a sexual predator.