Thrustmaster T818 Direct Drive Wheelbase Review

Intro: 0:00
Closer Look: 0:52
Closer Look QR System: 10:32
QR System Flex: 23:56
Look Inside: 28:21
Mounting: 39:39
Mounted: 44:04
T818 Tuning Driver: 44:58
Tuning Session: 51:08
Driving: 1:13:54
Final Thoughts: 1:20:04
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[@SimRacing604]

The review we’ve all been waiting for!

[@giogamer4825]

Exactly!

[@griponreality9716]

All hail the grand master of sim racing. 🙌

[@Simply__Vic]

FACTS!!

[@bobbaganush17]

i know right we've been waiting. still waiting on u to review the VRS DFP

[@BOTICSELLI]

The Logitech G PRO is a waited one too... 😉

[@jasonrebelo181]

(spreading love) You know some of these new kids out there be blinded by sponsorship dreams and ambition, throwing dirt, saying oh he never posts anymore, or oh he's not as thorough as he used to be, etc.. but then they say some praise quickly before moving on and say look at his back catalog etc,etc.. EVERYONE in this scene knows you are the Bob Ross of Sim, bringing joy to those who watch thru calm, collected, educated information, you LEGEND: Barry Rowland - classic formula, love it! :)

[@jasonrebelo181]

and yes i posted this only half way thru the video haha

[@OleBih]

Get off my man's nuts

[@jasonrebelo181]

@@OleBih haha too kind i guess {|}

[@Dzul74]

I've been looking forward to SRG's review for a long time because it is so thorough. Thank you Barry. Every analysis of simracing hardware you make is an enjoyable discovery journey. I've been using the T818 for 3 weeks now and I am positively impressed (that is coming from a TS-PC) and I am very, very happy with what this wheelbase can do. What this direct-drive wheelbase has given me over my previous belt one is more confidence, by providing more detailed information about the track's conditions and the behaviour of my car (grip, tyres, weight transfer) at a much faster rate. This has allowed me to push the limit to which I exert the car on track further than before, which has turned into improved lap consistency and extra tenths of a second. So yes, this wheelbase has made me a bit faster, because it communicates more and it does it swiftly. I am currently running it at 70% power on Performance mode and that's enough to give my forearms a good workout on 3 hour stints. I do think it is unfortunate that TM does not include either a desk or rig mount with the T818 out of the box (you have to buy either separately). I can definitely recommend the rig-baseplate, which is what I have. It provides a broader contact area and more screws (8 instead of 4) to share the FFB load. The bottom of this rig-baseplate is made of very sticky silicon so it feels as if the T818 is now "glued" to the rig-plate. I had to re-tighten all other screws on the rig to ensure rigidity because wheelspin shakes the whole thing, haha! From my experience the T818 is a proper, solid DD wheel, just like Barry says. Of course, we still have to wait for the most important test (after Barry's scrutiny): the test of time.

[@FezzantPlucka]

Hi, thanks for your comments on this. Can you tell me, does the baseplate have an angle to it? I notice the bottom of the main unit is very flat which would obviously mean your wheel was at 90' to the horizontal once mounted. Thanks.

[@toniweak]

Your Reviews are always on point and so detailed. The time and effort you put into these is unbeliveable. Im still hyped for the day you get the chance to test out the logitech dd :D

[@xtom6511xtom]

You are the craziest tester I follow 👍 Checking the item with a microscope is unique, have never seen anyone thorough like you. Keep this quality, thank you!

[@smileonempty]

Thank you for your incredibly detailed and thorough review of the new Thrustmaster T818. Your reviews are always so informative and insightful, so glad I found your channel. I'm hoping you'll be doing an SRG review of the new Logitech DD Pro wheel and pedals soon.

[@denboogie9199]

Im totally blown by the in depth look on all the Details of the Wheelbase. Great work.

[@FSX239]

You are truly unique in how you provide reviews. Thanks much.

[@juise99]

Me before I click the link, "I don't know if I care enough about the T818 for one Barry's 40 minute in-depth reviews". Click the link 1 hour, 22 minutes, 57 seconds! Now some how I'm going to watch the whole thing. Well played sir! 😆

[@perspolis1818]

A true master of all the reviews. I was waiting for this and never thought it'd come that quick; I ignored any other reviews and waited for this patiently to make a decision. He's the only guy that could put you behind the wheel and make you feel exactly what's going on without actually being behind it. You're the reason why Sim Racing experience is improving. Cheers Barry!

[@trdartz]

Really like your in depth reviews! Helps everyone who wants to tinker with sim racing hardware.

[@Gmanxxx1214]

Nobody does better reviews of sim equipment. I love the way you tear everything apart!

[@ShughaKane]

The best review around as always! This wheelbase is really looking good as a first dd.

[@pacificdash]

27:00 Seeing this from above would be very helpful for seeing the amplitude of movement, given the direction of the torque applied. Great video as always, thank you!!

[@ApexVGear]

Since you teased us on Facebook a couple of weeks ago, I've been checking your channel frequently. ...now for a great review as usual.

[@mcnappa828]

EVERYONE wanted to see THIS review before taking a dive.

[@EnzoRacer1]

Excellent review as always! Big thanks!

[@alifsyatria8489]

good to see inside of this wheelbase 😁

[@zeahroela]

Top quality review as always

[@BVDsGoneFishing]

The one review I was waiting for!

[@rolfwesemann738]

I have 3 Thrustmaster wheels and with no one a flexing like you found it!

[@wagonet]

Woo, I don't know much about electronics but appreciate all the detail. What a great review 👍. Love seeing the internals of this hardware

[@P_Camps]

Wow I stumbled onto your channel by accident. Great review and format... I have learned more about direct drive wheels in the last video then the last weeknof research. Chapeau

[@darksideweld]

Your reviews are difficult to comment on. I love your thoroughness of illustrations for each component, but what I love most is your demonstration with the test and tuning that you go through. Food for thought. Tighten the composite mounting collar again, and put the screw in it to prevent failure caused by wide frequencies of vibrations during use. The center adapter will absolutely bottom out. After the collar is tightened, there should be a minute amount of gap. Please install the screw to secure and stabilize the wheel hub and collar. When looseness is felt, check the estimated torque of the nut, put the screw back in the collar and wheel hub assembly, and drive on. I've never seen a review quite as detailed as yours. Keep up the good work sir. Well done.

[@mikaelbackstrom]

Yes! The review I have been waiting for! Thank you.

[@DG53]

As usual, awesome review! Thanks man!

[@loveforsimracing8197]

Thank you for this. Been waiting for this video to come out.

[@phaedrussocrates7636]

I am really glad that "big" companies are admitting they DO need you👍

[@THRUSTMASTERofficial]

Hi Barry, thanks for your usual deep dive review into our new direct drive T818! We're super proud of what we have made, and we love seeing our gear torn apart and explained so thoroughly. One quick note, as you didn't fully take apart the motor - we actually are proud to share that the direct drive shaft inside our motor is made from 100% metal! We are unable to recreate the same level of flex you are experiencing, which is unfortunate. We do think it is an issue with a loose screw within the SF1000, possibly when you reassembled it after that review?

[@crawfordbrown75]

Happened in both wheels, just accept it was a flawed design and trying to stand by your original flawed mount instead of ditching it was a poor idea. P.s I got rid of all my TM equipment for simagic. You are a bunch of clowns.

[@Sithhy]

Hello Thrustmaster. Will the T818 support more than 1080* rotation? I like to drive trucks in games like Euro Truck Sim 2 or American Truck Sim or BeamNG,drive & usually those have 1440 or more steering degrees, I would like to simulate such an amount for a bit more immersion, but from the small handful of videos I've seen, the TM Control Panel only lets you set it to 1080, just like your other non-DD wheelbases. Is that due to the power/signal cable running on the inside of the motor's shaft that prevents you from going any higher than this?

[@caaarlos]

Recently I bought a TS-PC Servo and a P310 wheel that came with loose screws and the quickrelease was semi-loose, flexing and slighly angled. Tightening screws didn't fix it. during first 15 days of warranty the shop gave me another P310 that was in perfect condition.

[@jamesfranko5098]

Great products thrust master. Will get this eventually. I currently have a t-gt and t300. Bother are excellent. Good job.

[@palestragenesi2.042]

yes .i dont have flex with sparco p310 in my t818,but i have oscillation in iracing e acc, for remove oscillation i set damping in panel control t818 at 70% but i prefer feeling with default setting 10%

[@privateblop9485]

One of the very best review out here, as usual ;) Thanks, and hoping you'll do a review of the logitech pro soon

[@beef24v]

The ffb on this base feels so good. I’m so glad I got this

[@andrejss]

How is it holding up?

[@MrRikko951]

Thank you very much ! was waiting for this review even as I have mine since december! Regarding the flex, I have a ricmotech momo mod31 wheel connected to the thing and it does not flex as much as this . (And not as much as my real car when I tried 10 min ago btw... ) so I dont think it would cause any issue, but we'll see what the future brings.

[@clydeg4274]

I’m so pumped for the console version!

[@jackwinder]

Great review, thanks! I have flex with my TM wheels (on a TS racer) now and then because some bolts on the front plate loosen and looks like the flex you have. Once tightend the flex is much less..Anyway, receiving my T818 Monday, so I am excited to try (with your recommendations)!

[@derekd4349]

What do you think?

[@quinhon1989]

Great review sir!

[@jimburdeshaw5200]

As always.... Very awesome, informative video!! Love your in depth overviews. Any chance you're going to be doing the Logitech Pro Direct Drive wheel and Pro Pedals? Just curious how it compares. Thanks again and keep up the fantastic work!

[@ronleeflang451]

Love your revs Mate,... 😎

[@SewerShark]

I noticed a Virpil icon on your desktop. You sir, got great taste.

[@MrCatalysis101]

Thank you Barry.

[@Jpilgrim30]

Yo, Barry. I’d love to see a review on the Simagic alpha Ultimate and see how it stacks up with the other big boys if you have the time and accessibility. I believe the firmware and tuning software have also been improved since you did the alpha mini review

[@mijindani]

He's my Bob Ross of the sim racing... so relaxing to listen and watch.

[@0verfiend]

What they did to bob and his family is tragic.

[@akozlowski1990]

Very good review as always;) In every second you can hear passion and years of experience with best solutions on simracing market, that's for what we're all here for;)

[@stevenwex8966]

Thanks for showing that the buttons on the side can be removed with a bit of work, with my set-up currently using a G27 run in a rig designed to look like a Daytona USA cabinet I wouldn't have anywhere of getting to the buttons, so extending the wires and remounting them seams like it may be possible.

[@MrBreakthompson]

Omg, the review we have all been waiting for. Fresh out the oven

[@northerngit8242]

Cool review - great to see what is inside the wheel base ... Any chance you wanna open up the QR adapter as well to see what gives with that? From what I understand there is a chip inside there which also has its own firmware (TM control panel says CAN: 2.11 next to the wheel base firmware 5.20) ... be interested to know if they are changing bit rate or something (eg to run more complex button configs or rims etc in future) or if there is any voltage stepping eg 3v-5v since afaik the old rims are 3v 🤔 Other thoughts ... maybe TM are right below that you have a loose screw after your rebuild of your F1 rim? I have two rims on this base (P310 and TM open wheel) and neither flex anything like yours was doing.

[@MrEDET]

Insert the screw in the adapter as mentioned in the manual and the flex is completely gone ;) I have zero flex with my SF1000 on the T818.

[@CHAPI929292]

Haha a "quick" release you need to screw it in doesn't sound very quick tho, does it?

[@MrEDET]

@@CHAPI929292 You do it one time only to secure the adapter in the wheel.

[@withthesetwohands]

I know this suggestion might draw some serious ire from the community, but I'd love to see Barry's take on the Logitech Pro direct drive wheel.

[@atlsoldier27]

That type of power connector is known to have some issues. Very important to make sure it is pushed in all the way!! Any type of wiggle on its socket can cause a lot of heat problems.

[@Goryglory0209]

best review on the world wide web

[@joelklok3373]

The only review we need when we want to buy something

[@DonVincenzooGame]

always great review ! i would like to see the Logitech Pro racing test ! i want to see trueforce test (0 to 100 % and the feeling )

[@Mutt83GC]

I've been waiting for this video....

[@davidroca6588]

Hi Barry. Fantastic review as always. Do you know when you are going to review the new model SRP GT-R 3p Black Edition pedals?

[@givemeajackson]

thanks for the super thorough review! most other reviewers just point out the existence of a flaw, you also cover the extent and impact of them, which makes it much easier to judge whether it's something i could accept or not. "the quick release isn't as good as mozas" doesn't help me nearly as much as when you showed exactly how it works. yeah i think i'm going for this one. just the availability of used stuff for the thrustmaster ecosystem swings it, and i already have some TM stuff. i think it's by far the cheapest way for me to get into direct drive, i can live with the akward quick release. if i went with moza, the whole endeavour would cost me way more. there's a used t818 on ebay, if i can get it for cheap think it's the best option for me. i can live with a bit of flex as long as it's not impacting the ffb. also, that motor is a chunky boy! i would kinda love to run this thing with the case off. would be such a compact short solution

[@steveracer1985]

The collar is Glass Filament reinforced plastic.

[@WonTONgaming218]

Thank you for the review. I was considering staying in the thrustmaster echosystem, but after this review I am thinking I could invest in better products. Currently using a TS-XW with the F1 wheel, but wish I had something smoother.

[@sekvenssi4897]

Hey Barry, first time here and i like your style with the soft voice. I just bought psvr2, gt7, t248 and i'd like to hear your thoughts about vr in sim racing and how the actuator/motion systems work with the headsets. Thanks

[@justinbrown6233]

I had received this for the first time three weeks ago and it stopped working four hours into Assetto Corsa. I sent it to France for repairs and two weeks later, it's up and running without incident. Hopefully it stays that way. Other than that dreadfully inconvenient hiccup, it's a great base in my opinion. What I like about it is that if you have the adapters, and if you can find a universal hub, you can attach wheels from other companies like Fanatec. I got a Fanatec NASCAR rim to use with it and it really does work! The T818 adapter isn't even connected to any electronics on the wheel, there aren't any, it works and receives ffb regardless! I'm curious to try this with a Fanatec wheel that actually has electronic connections and buttons..

[@garywalsh9750]

Great review, wat size screens you got running there, very immersive

[@mralfredo7643]

Hello, BARRY It's always a pleasure to see your videos , as well as your extensive experience in the field of Simracing. Could you make a video about Thrustmaster's new steering wheel, the 488gt3, in the future, and enlighten us on the functions of the steering wheel that are not taken into account on consoles as well as on Pc?? Thank you very much and long live the chain ✌️👍🤗

[@RamboMonkey]

Thank you for the great review, I have the same wheel, can I ask what degrees of rotation did you use with the SF1000?

[@ParlierEddy]

Nice review! And a new firmware V5.20 for the base is available since now 2 weeks and add a lot of improvements 👍.

[@palestragenesi2.042]

j your setting damper?i have oscillation extreme in iracing with toyota gr6,i huse 10 dampin 100 gain and performance mode

[@MrEDET]

@@palestragenesi2.042 Check the Iracing forum for suggested settings. Ffb smoothing at 0 for example. Personally I use IRffb for Iracing, it gives a much better ffb and the default one imho

[@ParlierEddy]

@@palestragenesi2.042 On iRacing game for all DD wheels (not only the T818) it's important, in the options of the game to: * Always activate "Use Linear Mode" (specialy made for DD wheels as they are perfectly linear) * Always activate "Reduce force when parked" (to avoid some oscillations on the pit) * Always keep at 0% "Smoothing" slider (this slider is not for DD wheels - if you want to add some damper to decrease oscillations on this game, then do it in the T818 Control Panel)

[@palestragenesi2.042]

@@ParlierEddy yes i have linear mode ,0 smoothing 0 damping but after last update i have oscillation,for remove this i use damper in t818 at 70% but i prefer feeling with max 20% damping in t818 panel control

[@tiagobelo4965]

@palestragenesi2.042 if there is any setting along the lines of "wheel friction" that's what you should adjust, assuming that the FFB is well made, that's just the nature if havubg extremely low friction and innertia steering components

[@SingToTheDusk]

I would love to see a video of you building a sim rig from scratch based on the things you’ve reviewed.

[@Piasecznik72]

You can measure Nm. Just attach 1m arm to the wheel and put end of it on a scale. Whatever you read from scale in kg multiply it by 9.80665 to get Nm.

[@lamesheepracing]

Whoa! 27:30 put me off completely. Even though I have the two Thrustmaster Sparco rims, that amount of flex made me instantly consider the Simagic Alpha Mini, even if I have to buy the wheel rim.

[@RobCabreraCh]

I am just patiently waiting for TM to update this or make a PS5 compatible version. I play rather casually, so I'm very happy on console with my T300 and my SF1000. But, all these new DD wheelbases make me want to upgrade in the nearish future. As soon as TM brings out a PS version, I'm there!

[@smileonempty]

I'm sort of in the same boat. I have a Thrustmaster T500RS wheel and pedal set that won't work with my PS5 because they chose not to license the older wheels, but it doesn't seem worth it to upgrade to the T-GT II base since it's basically the same system as my T500RS. I was holding out for the new T818, but my heart sank when they said it will be PC only for now.

[@RobCabreraCh]

@@smileonempty Man, I feel you. I was the same with the PS4 and my G27. It felt insane to buy a G29 which is essentially the same as the G27, but without the shifter. I skipped that whole generation, and bought a PS5 and a T300RS for GT7. In the meantime, the G27 worked well for PC sims, so I never felt the need to really upgrade if it didn't make sense. That T818 sure looks like it makes sense to me!

[@bgdaddy42069]

same im on pc but i still have to wait for release it came out in the uk first. i love my t300 with rally wheel and i have the open wheel just got into on road stuff

[@TecraTube]

same. PS5 GT7 DD wheel base needed from thrust master as Fanatec makes trash and has poor customer service

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

Agree, just waiting on PS5 and GT7 support... Must support PC too!

[@KirkwoodImaging]

The strong plastic reminds me of the MAGURA Carbotecture technology used in their bike brakes. I wonder if it’s similar.

[@caaarlos]

Do you plan on reviewing the Logitech G Pro and opening it for comparison? Some people were praising it so much I got really curious about what your feedback on that base would be.

[@jamesyers1975]

I wonder if the distance between the wheel and base will be different between the new wheels and the old wheels with the adapter.

[@subbblet2]

Hello, very good review, waiting for an equal review of the logitech DD, and especially the interior.

[@Jonah-Hosein]

Forgive me if i'm asking something i've missed in the video, but could you confirm whether this has a rotational limiter on it like the logitech pro dd wheel base? Due to electronics and things they limited it to 1080° of rotation.

[@DavyJonesSimRacing]

The Daddy of reviewers 😉 As a TM user with 2 rims would the T818 with rim adapter be okay? Or when they release a rim that is designed for the T818 will that improve things or is there still too much plastic used in the QR system?

[@zeiglerra]

If your already in the Thrustmaster ecosystem, I highly recommend the T818. I upgraded from the TX wheelbase and the difference is shocking. If your new to sim racing, please do your research before committing to an ecosystem.

[@nigu]

Please do a review on the Logitech Pro Wheel! So much detail, very good!

[@giogamer4825]

Sit back, relax and enjoy..

[@tikalsport2130]

Hi Barry, I always find your reviews highly interesting, but you have never reviewed any simalution software. I would find that really interesting!

[@lolilolplix]

Could flex be reduced using a non-adapted wheel (when available)? It looks like the adapter builds a lot of length and thus more heave.

[@GunvaldRacing]

Concerning the stiffness remarks made in this excellent review: Important to distinguish between BENDING stiffness and TORSIONAL stiffness. The bending stiffness could be better, as Mr Rowland points out, but you never load the steering wheel heavily in this direction while driving. The torsional stiffness is far more important. Lack of torsional stiffness would give the feeling of a steering column made of rubber.

[@balkntv]

i really wonder if this base will work with custom wheels attached with some sort of 3rd party adapter

[@woodstocknun]

with direct drive getting more and more available.. would you ever recommended the older belt driven wheels, is are DD so superior?

[@SteveReed33]

Looks like you need to tighten the fasteners on the steering wheel. My thrustmaster wheels don't flex anything like that on my T818. I had something similar happen with my TM wheel and it was fine after I tightened the screws back up again.

[@michaelpayne7141]

Another great review, and actually very positive about the product, bar the Quick Release Adapter for the legacy wheels. But I guess there was always going to be a compromise. If the legacy wheels weren't supposed in some way, there was going to be a shit storm, so at least Thrustmaster considered their existing customer base to try and accommodate any wheels that people might already have. Personally I am really happy with my T818.

[@inVerse1111]

are there "new" wheels yet?

[@MrRikko951]

not in the adapter but in the wheel itself... I dont think flexing is a problem anyway. Try in a real car and it "flexes" also and sometimes a lot more when you hang on the steering wheel.

[@simracingchannel7691]

@@MrRikko951 if your real car wheel is flexin you better get your steering column checked lol

[@MrRikko951]

@@simracingchannel7691 try any car; it will flex... if you push hard enough...

[@CHAPI929292]

@@MrRikko951 dude my car wheel can hold my entire 90kg weight without flexing and I hold on to it every time I get in and out. Absolutely no flex is acceptable and this is a garbage product with a shit QR

[@bfife22]

Will you do an update when they release new wheels that have the new QR system built in natively?

[@thinkrtank991]

I can't help but notice that you held on the simtrecs gt pro pedals Barry. Are they your daily driver now?

[@flipcoin6301]

I'm guessing they will offer an updated SF1000 wheel with new QR mount that is stiffer(metal)

[@Donesyboy]

Finally got mine stateside and can confirm I am not feeling any flex w/ the SF1000, I haven't gotten to check my 330mm Nardi yet though...

[@Sigh1er]

Comparing it to the Fanatec DD1, which would you recommend? I currently have the T-GTII from Thrustmaster and I'm looking to upgrade.

[@funhobbiesunlimited]

🔴🏁You're always there when it comes to making us discover the latest in detail and I think that's really great. What is your favorite direct drive steering wheel in the 8 to 12 newton meter segment ❓Great job as usual, thank you.

[@udowahlich5705]

Nice review! Sidenote for me the ffb test button in the driver is not working for me, if i click nothing happens. In game all is fine.

[@davidwild8932]

Make sure that your wheel is up to date with the latest firmware version = V5.20.

[@nbean1680]

Hey Barry, did you have update your sf1000 again to use it with the t818. Updated mine about a year ago.

[@rakimaje8433]

Great review again! Love this. The flex you are experiencing I didn't notice in a German/ Austrian youtuber review. If the T818 was console ready I already would have ordered one. Now I stick with my T300 T-LCM'S, because I switch between console and PC.

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

Same and same setup as you... I miss the road detail.. In GT7 it's very low with the T300RS

[@KuSQ3N]

I need that Moza H shifter God Review man :)

[@Jpilgrim30]

Looks like there may be a spot in the market for some third party to make a metal wheel adapter for the older wheels.

[@kmw8032]

Almost 18 months on, is there any chance you have had chance to try a newer model of the T818? I have seen some mention (and I hope it's true) that Thrustmaster might have reduced the flex somehow? It looks like a good wheel, but I am still concerned about the flex, it's the only thing putting me off. You're evaluation is always honest and thorough and I'd really appreciate your up to date view on this.

[@lratafia]

another great review, not so great wheelbase nevertheless. Do you have any other channel for whatever electronics repairs you make? there's lots of equipment there, it would be great to watch you repairing stuff. Cheers!

[@dovydasvit231]

is it worth upgrading from Thrustmaster T300 to T818? I have also NLR GT track cockpit, thrustmaster T-LCM pedals, with T8pa shifter and nobrand ebay e-brake.

[@Dave062YT]

The 16 in the serial number represents the number of years TM fans have been waiting for this btw

[@mysticdarkness2]

Guys you can fix the flex in the quick release system by using a rubber or plastic shim (like a big washer). Also fixes occasional rim disconnection from base. just cut a circle with 70mm outside diameter and a 40mm inside and should be the thickness of a credit card. Make sure you tighten the QR all the way against the steering wheel like Barry did, you have to use some kind of tool just by hand its not enough. Once you get rid of the gap on the wheel side, you will have created a bigger one on the base side. That is where you gonna put the plastic/rubber shim. I have done this myself with rubber and it worked very well and its a great improvement, it removes all the play in the shaft and you are left only with the flex on the rim itself. The only disadvantages of this fix is that becomes a hard job to remove the QR adapter and if the shim is too thick the latch on the QR becomes very stiff. Hope it helps. Barry thanks for the review, great as always. really helped me to make my choice.

[@ryanblumenow]

Can you give me a few more details on how this solution works?

[@jackwinder]

The flex is mostly in the wheels itself. Frontplates too thin and narrow distance of the front plate bolts (not 70 mm like race car wheels). However, one of my adapters has no flex at all to the QR and a second one did have a little gap, so I just put a bit of tape inside where the lever pushes the adapter tight. Should not be needed, tolerances could be better by TM. Other than that the T818 performs very well!

[@mysticdarkness2]

@@ryanblumenow Well, it works very well, you just make a ring to fill the gap left on the QR system. I guess being able to retrofit so many different wheels they had to be quite loose with the tolerances of the QR. So some of them might be gapier then others. Once you fill that gap with a shim it becomes very very sturdy. You might feel the latching system get a bit tighter as its tighning everything together but that's all. Its quite simple when you look at it in front of you. I found the rubber shim with the sizes described before to work very well for me. It really makes a big difference. Hope that helps

[@mysticdarkness2]

@@jackwinder I dont really agree Jack, at least in my case I would say 70% of the flex was coming from the shaft and 30% from the 599xx rim. Now with the Acelith Design rim that I use with the 599xx buttonbox and the solution for the shaft I would say im left with 5% flex on the shaft and 10% on the rim. At this point you 100% cannot feel any play when racing and barely any even if you force it.

[@XXIcloud]

Have you tried using the screw on the adapter? Maybe it reduces the flex. If the flex we see on the video is the normal one, I dont think is a good base

[@ParlierEddy]

Yes strange. On my side I don't have this flex with the SF1000 rim when installed on the T818 base.

[@MarkoFQ]

14:32 Probably PA6GF30 or similar plastic ( Nylon 6 with glass fibre ) or some sort of PC.