Thunder vs Mavs is the NBA's Best New Rivalry | ALL NBA PODCAST

[@ALLCITY_NBA]

OKC got theirs last night, but who do you have winning the Western Conference this year?

[@Damehowell7]

The Dallas Mavericks

[@frmjewduhh]

OKC runs away with the 1 seed. Everyone else is battling for 2

[@darenjefferson3010]

OKC

[@sondgreatest9468]

DALLAS.

[@myholyking6951]

@@ALLCITY_NBA Mavs

[@reed1511]

Lu Dort is the best perimeter defender in the league

[@eliyarrows2456]

Agree to disagree. But he’s great.

[@devxplayerdevelopment]

@@eliyarrows2456psh…who’s better?

[@WhalesWatching]

mhm, has been for a couple years now but groupthink & small keeps everyone thinking it’s jrue holiday

[@scarlxrd1466]

@@devxplayerdevelopmentgive me mcdaniels, amen thompson, dyson daniels, jalen suggs, OG, herb jones, kris dunn > dort

[@charlesbullard4604]

@@scarlxrd1466 definitely Suggs that guy is a human mirror

[@marcom4127]

As a mavs fan, the thunder outplayed the mavs. That defense is suffocating. And they were the better team last night and in the west right now. No excuses. On to the next game.

[@KingoftheJungle214]

I still think it’s Mavs or okc in the west. Two team race. Evenly matched

[@superdopehiphop]

They could of won last WCSF too, but didn’t bc SGA’s teammates shot near 30% from 3 and Luka’s 40% from 3

[@KingoftheJungle214]

@ sounds like excuses

[@Kelbonobo]

@@superdopehiphopexcuse me

[@Balloutsiah]

As a thunder fan it’s always scary playing you guys especially now i got a little nervous when klay got got late

[@Richboy9968]

@Tim …why you don’t coach? Your knowledge of the game is brilliant

[@djedman10]

OKC is the team to beat this year in the West. The C's and OKC are just a notch above everyone else.

[@adamdennehy412]

It’s gonna be one hell of a finals

[@KingoftheJungle214]

Relax. Mavs are in that convo too. Playoff Luka different. And they are the reigning western champs

[@djedman10]

@@KingoftheJungle214 of course. But right now, they're not in that conversation like OKC and Boston.

[@KingoftheJungle214]

@ they literally are lol

[@djedman10]

@@KingoftheJungle214 they were no match for the Celtics last time we saw it and they got took to school yesterday by a team not at full strength. Right now, they are a notch below both those teams, maybe even Cleveland.

[@JP-jd8wr]

Any of these clowns in the comments that were saying Dort doesn't bother Luka CLEARLY doesn't know basketball 😂 No point in even mentioning them.

[@samzimmerman6271]

As a Mavs fan, it’s not a rivalry until little bro get a big time win, and OKC did that. They’re scary for sure.

[@KingoftheJungle214]

That was a big time win? It was a regular season game lol

[@richking6701]

@@KingoftheJungle214By the way I can interpret it. That’s what he meant

[@devxplayerdevelopment]

@@KingoftheJungle214NBA Cup Game. Both teams put out their best efforts. OKC didn’t even have Chet. You’re delusional.

[@karsonrivers9880]

@@devxplayerdevelopmentMavs didn’t have Pj probably their best defender this season who likes putting 20 on the thunder. Thunder got the win but they definitely can’t pull the injury card.

[@KingoftheJungle214]

@@devxplayerdevelopment Mavs didn’t have PJ. It’s a regular season game it means nothing lol let’s see in the playoffs

[@Earl_E_Burd]

Best pod in the business right now. Starting to get some ALL NBA'isms... Pillow Talk, My Guy, Commanders, Bball Ktulu?, "In the chat". What else?

[@yup2393]

Legs gettin hit with the “pillow talk” was hilarious 😭😭

[@cuatroCuart0]

OKC thoroughly outplayed Dallas 100%. They came out ready to play and just looked like the better team for 48 minutes that game. Luka and the mavs looked lost and frankly played like a team that has been in the road for the last month and did not want to be there. Although that game wasn’t particularly close on the eye test (even though they were only down 3 at half) this is mostly definitely a fun matchup to keep an eye on in the future!!

[@Aussie_OKC_fan]

👏👏 Great breakdown of Thunder v Mavs. Yes Adam they will go some small ball in the playoffs. Mark just throws it out on the spot when we need a jolt. High character guys and a cerebral coach

[@gankwanker703]

Lu Dort DPOY

[@jonathancanizales8923]

Lu Dort literally giving Luka purple nurples all game

[@matthewdial6534]

I bet Luka’s purple nurples are hella purple 😂

[@superdopehiphop]

As of 12/11/24 NBA MVP (Jokic clear best in🌎, but Nuggets 7seed) SGA bc *OKC 19-5 (65W pace & he’s played 24/24) *30.2, 6.3, 5.4, 2.8stocks 63TS% *+277 #1 (+11.54 per game is the 3rd best of ANYONE since 96-97 play by play era started) *+16.4 per100 #1 easily of MVP candidates (Tatum +12.4, Jokic +11.1, Luka +8.4, Giannis +1.9) 125 O-Rating vs 104 D-Rating #1 in WinShares (4.8, Jokic 4.5, Giannis 3.8) PS even though Jokic was rightly MVP last yr SGA in 23-24 was first player since late 88-89 MJ season to avg 30+ 6+ 5+ 2+ spg and 53%+ FG% and he was also #1 in EPM so he had great argument too. SGA > last yr in playoffs in WCSF but TEAM lost in 6 bc his teammates shot close to 30% 3P% while Luka’s teammates 40% 3P%. 2024 WCSF 32 8 7 3.5 stocks 51/55/83 27.6 GameScore (Luka 20.5) 125 offensive rating (Luka 110) even though OKC team as a whole only 112! 111 D-Rating even though team 112.3 Great pod. The only thing that caught me off guard was Adam shooting a random stray at Luke Kennard when talking up AJ Green.😆 Career so far Luke > AST% REB% STL% BLK% WS/48, BPM (-0.2 vs -1.5) VORP (4.4 in 409 games vs 0.2 in 114 games). You clowned LK like he was a welfare white Cam Payne

[@Earl_E_Burd]

Mavs have some of the most annoying fans in the NBA. Not a surprise given the reputation of Cowboys fans. It's fitting that they have an emotional child as their star player.

[@Mr.Thomas_Anderson]

Coming from a Mavs fan, half of Mavs fans aren’t really Mavs fans. They’re Luka fans and started watching the Mavs 3yrs ago. It sucks

[@lol-mo1on]

"emotional child" yea sure buddy

[@jlavigne1155]

Get off the Internet

[@jlavigne1155]

@@Earl_E_Burd I think we see who the emotional child is here, EARL

[@Vasco224]

@@lol-mo1onLuka does complain a lot even when he doesn’t even get fouled, he blames his teammates a lot too he’s way too emotional and unable to hide it even tho he tries to

[@Damehowell7]

I think OKC threw a defensive wrinkle at Luka and Dallas that the Mavs were not ready for. Luka became passive which played into OKC’s hands. The Mavs arent the best in game adjustment team but history has shown us they will be ready going forward.

[@myholyking6951]

Okc destroyed the Mavs last night they blew them out frame. The Mavs were ambushed and blown to smithereens 💥 💥

[@coreyhiggins6890]

Hanging banners huh...

[@crush_4103]

Pels having a fire sale, wonder if Herb or Murphy available? Either would be dope with OKC, who have the assets to make it happen without screwing with the future

[@Masgrandejefe]

They like their team and rotations… Thunder won’t make any move this season

[@matdarg2875]

Dort is Luka's daddy

[@coreyhiggins6890]

Sent his ass home in 6 while hurt...😅

[@mikielsahagun6054]

Bucks is my secret 3rd favorite behind the Knicks and Thunder

[@coreyhurt8529]

Just loving the Mavs fans believing if PJ would have played they win😂😂 forgetting the fact that okc doesn’t have Chet which is going to make the defense even more suffocating!

[@connor_phillipz5689]

PJ fundamentally changes the profile of the Mavs. With PJ and no Luka we already beat the Thunder this season and in the playoffs last season PJ was the difference maker. So the core of your argument is false. That being said Pj or not we weren't winning yesterday with the performance we got out of Luka, Kyrie, Lively, and Grimes. Not to mention the turnovers. But that's why I am more confident about the Mavs beating the Thunder again in the playoffs than I was before the game. Pretty much everything that could have gone wrong for the Mavs went wrong and we were still in the game with multiple opportunities to make a run and take the lead. In a 7 game series I'm 100% confident in the Mavs beating the Thunder. Getting Chet back does not change anything about this matchup. If anything Dallas matches up even better with Chet out there because of his slim frame and inconsistent shooting. I am incredibly excited for their inevitable meeting in the playoffs.

[@coreyhiggins6890]

Chet skinny ass cant even fall right...dude broke his hip at 23 yrs old 😂...dude was getting bodied in the playoffs...dude hasnt improved his body atall...tf he gone do ...

[@mohamedali7688]

Bro, what are you talking about ? nobody in God's greens earth looks at skinny chet as defensive stopper cut it out.

[@coreyhurt8529]

@ shit, I don’t know! What tf can he do? The over 7 footer who can shoot the three and take you off the dribble and one of the best shot blockers in the league. I don’t know what tf that guy can do. 😂😂

[@coreyhurt8529]

@ who the hell said he is a defensive stopper? He is one of the best shot blockers in the league, the anchor of the defense at the rim. Fool

[@javierdelgado6804]

Okc in 5 vs anybody!

[@G-Blockster]

Thunder Up! ⛈️

[@adamdennehy412]

This team could literally win 2/3 chips in the next 5 years if they get this right. They are ELITE.

[@cabbage8742]

Luka sucks and you know it's true.

[@HLDN1989]

Mavs fan. SGA and OKC played a great game. That being said the Mavs have been on the road (7 of 10 on the road for a month), and it looked like it. Moving forward, at some point they have to try and win in Dallas, which is easier said than done!

[@diskinyoung]

My idea to fix the NBA and NBA Cup Ok I have an idea of how to fix the NBA regular season and NBA Cup. Ideally we would shorten the regular season but that wont happen but could work into this and make it even better. First off we bring back divisions. Winner of your division is guaranteed a playoff spot (not a top 4 spot but a spot none the less). This will bring back rivalries in the NBA and make regular season mean more. Next we introduce a selection show for the playoffs. At the end of the regular season we have a show where the top 3 teams get to select the team they play in round one of the playoffs (#1 seed makes the first selection then #2, #3 ). Imagine the ratings for that show where the team picks who they want to play and makes teams really want to get in the top 3 to be able to choose making the regular season mean more again. Here is where the NBA Cup comes into play. The winner of the NBA Cup not only gets money but gets the first pick in the selection draft IF they make the playoffs. Meaning they still have to play hard to make the playoffs but they get the first selection in their Conference if they make it in. This brings a huge advantage in the playoffs for the winner of the cup and makes their road to the finals easier and brings strategy into play. This all would make the regular season and NBA Cup instantly more competitive, more rivalries and teams fans don’t like and really mean something.

[@jlavigne1155]

All those mentions of Okc not being full strength... And not one mention or how Dallas has been suffering from key rotation players out for weeks

[@frmjewduhh]

That's because getting back Chet Holmgren moves the needle even MORE in favor of OKC than when the Mavs get back PJ Washington and Kleber. If both teams are at full strength, OKC still wins last night and probably has the Mav's number 8 times out of 10.

[@scarlxrd1466]

⁠​⁠@@frmjewduhhthat’s based off what? Remind me again how the 2nd round of the playoffs went this past season? There’s only been 2 players in NBA history to have the same injury as Chet, there’s no guarantee he gets back to full form this season or come playoff time. OKC has proven to be incredible in the regular season but the only team this squad has beat in a series is a Zion-less pelicans…

[@PeterWilson-c3u]

@@scarlxrd1466 I think OKC is the better team, but Chet is on track to being deemed injury prone. They match up better with Dallas without him!

[@G-Blockster]

​@scarlxrd1466 Ah, but that's where your logic falls apart. Neither of these teams are the same. Pundits claim this year's Dallas and OKC teams are better than last year's. On top of that, everyone on the OKC roster are improved players (experience, offense, defense, maturity) than they were last year. I don't think Dallas can say the same.

[@benhackman9522]

@@PeterWilson-c3u match up better with out Chet🤔 can you explain that?

[@Gmoney4184]

Media Keep hyping OKC to be the best. I need this in my life for Playoffs as a MFFL. Ive been watching OKC vs Dallas since Dirk vs. KD. Great battles.

[@Nmorganize]

Those were some legendary battles lol not many remember. Dirk vs Ibaka. Russ and Jason Terry going at it with Harden and KD. Miss those days

[@Gmoney4184]

@@Nmorganize I attended those Live. Incredible games. Hopefully this next generation can do the same.

[@Richboy9968]

23:07 ALL FACTS💯

[@connor_phillipz5689]

I am extremely excited for the inevitable Mavs OKC playoff matchup. OKC fans can bark it up all they want right now. Itll make beating them in a 7 game series even sweeter.

[@sittingbull7445]

Turnovers and rebounding killed mavs. PJ Washington's rebounding and defense was missed. PJ is the difference maker in this matchup. Also dort getting away with manhandling luka all game is a difference maker.

[@eastcane]

OKC's coach is sharp, Thunder going to be a problem.

[@najimani08]

The pillow talk revenge is nasty work. 😂😂😂

[@new002one]

What I am looking at this loss is the Mavs now have 9 days of rest and PJ has 12 days of rest until their next games.

[@new002one]

Mavs’ ultimate goal is to win the Chip not this Cup. Now they have 9 days of rest until their next game.

[@Kelbonobo]

Kyrie definitely needs to b the closer more often thwn Luka

[@M.A.Marshall]

Holiday is the most winngest player currently.

[@AmorCorona5]

Didn't know Adam was 6'5 my bad bro

[@kasbalasaitis1219]

To me, one team came prepared and motivated, the other treated it as another game in December. It was very evident. Blame goes to coach and the leaders of the team if you must place it somewhere

[@Aussie_OKC_fan]

Milwaukee should never have been in that situation. Should be criticized not congratulated

[@nikkrelj471]

But kyrie literally takes way more shots in the clutch than luka does. Luka as well stood in the corner a lot in the 4th last game. Maybe if we talk about throughout the game bit if we specifically talk about the 4th Kyrie is more the centre of activity than Luka is, plus kyrie is older cant really be the centre that often through 82 games plus they dont hide him on defense cause they do that for Luka so he actually has to defend a lot and loses a lot of energy there. But in the playoffs i think it will he more balanced and it was last season

[@SneakerDrawings]

OKC beat mavs in the first game of playoffs last year too, we know how that ended up. I still am confident in a well rested mavs + PJ actually playing to win a full series.

[@vonoiteuo7922]

SHAY IS THE BEST TO EVER PUT A THUNDER JERSEY ON.BETTER THEN KD N RW WITH RESPECT

[@CroxMcJames]

Legs used the word DESPERATION. Which perfectly describes OKC's MO. Mavs didn't display any of that. Not sure why but it's a fact. Shai played one of his best games ever. Doncic was kind of bad and Irving was far from stellar. Still, the game was much closer than some people may think. So what? OKC deserved the win and deserve to be #1 - still, I am not sure they can beat the Mavs when they playoff come (60/40 for the Mavs).

[@curtisray1283]

Mavs have beaten Oklahoma with out luka,it's 1 game a piece

[@Richboy9968]

🌩️🥶🔶🌩️🔶🥶🌩️ THUNDER🆙

[@Wiseone-n7o]

Chet won’t be there in January whatever Dallas do they will have a rude awakening down the line

[@coreyhiggins6890]

After a 2nd injury in 3 years off a broken hip...😢 oh ...no

[@josephrafferty6763]

It’s very unlikely that any team in the west will have the best record in the NBA. Not nearly as many free wins as the top teams in the East will have (Celtics fan, btw).

[@Dartheyv]

Luka didn’t want to win a the game

[@Masgrandejefe]

These comments is mavs fans crying about PJ not playing lol yeah the mavs played a “fully healthy” OKC team.. i get it 😂😂 Mavs already beat okc this year! They beat a “fully healthy”okc team BY TWO lol… ahh the crying and coping.. they didn’t sleep well last night 😂😂😂

[@coreyhiggins6890]

😂 yall had home court and got sent home in 6

[@Masgrandejefe]

@ you live in the past because you can’t find happiness in the present lol have a blessed day champ

[@nwatt23]

Someone explain to me why Kidd can’t ask / demand Luka to play off the ball, from the block or get his fat ass in shape so he can play D? He ain’t won nothing in the NBA.

[@coreyhiggins6890]

😂 SGA aint never made a conference finals...

[@nwatt23]

@ my comment has nothing to do with SGA

[@markcunningham6562]

14 point game not 18 point. And you want to analyze the game???

[@JayJay94_214]

You guys are pros yall know damn well dort hand checks and holds luka yall are praising that shit but if we try to do that shit to shai we don't get those no calls make it make sense

[@alekhorsman6972]

If you are talking about the off ball plays by Dort it didn’t even look like Luka was trying to fight off ball, that type of stuff happens all game he needs to put more effort into working off ball

[@JayJay94_214]

@alekhorsman6972 him not working off ball don't mean his still got getting hand check and held lmao stop it that's not his style his style is crafty and head games lu dort is foul and hope the refs don't call it and they don't so he won't foul out or over foul smh a foul is a foul needs to be called

[@harrisonzahn5715]

Good joke kid.

[@JayJay94_214]

@harrisonzahn5715 bro I would cross you up i really don't wanna hear it

[@PeterWilson-c3u]

@@JayJay94_214 Refs MUST call the aggressive physicality! Physical play makes Luka nearly unplayable. Not good for Mavs

[@herbertstarks1105]

PJ was out

[@jayboykin28]

Lol its 1 gm dallas has owened them and 1 bad game ..and thunder dont get me wrong are great but dallas is just fine.

[@gregandcarlymcloughlin7571]

Is most your followers mavs fans? You guys talk about them way too much

[@Damehowell7]

I know OKC is young, fun & aggressive defensively but lets not be so quick to crown them. The Mavs always counter well as it pertains to the season long matchup.

[@antoniohorta5656]

Hartenstein is a bellow average defender, so I'm not exactly sure what you mean? The team is amazing and clearly the best (regular season) team in the west. Distant third behind Boston/Cleveland in the entire NBA

[@Damehowell7]

I disagree on a few points…. I think we are forgetting that Dallas owned this series last year going into this year. SGA didnt dominate the first matchup, now they got their lick back.

[@G-Blockster]

1) These are different teams than last year with a handful of new players. 2.) Everyone is a year older and, at least on the OKC side, is more experienced and improved their skill sets from last year. All that to say expect different results.

[@andrewching6796]

@@G-Blockster These mavs fans love to win one series and automatically deem all changes into a year null and void based off past match ups, just fight them with the same logic Boston gonna kick their ass again

[@BestShootermanUbz]

Mavs fans have to be some of the most ignorant stuck in the past fans in the league. OKC is literally not the same team.

[@Damehowell7]

@ Stuck in the past? Mavs just woop that ass last month! 😂😂 OKC fans are so soft & zesty!

[@BridgeAtArcole]

@@BestShootermanUbz what happened in game one this year… no luka and still lost. SGA carried them to a loss

[@nikkrelj471]

Whatever yall say Luka has such a bad whistle and especially vs thunder. My god if the mavs defended shai like dort defends Luka Shai would have shot 30ft. Thats why hes that efficient cause everyone knows you cant touch him. But you can slap and hand check luka as much as you want

[@BestShootermanUbz]

Did you type this while crying 😢

[@nikkrelj471]

@@BestShootermanUbz maybe you were

[@jsung19]

OKC has the same number of play-off series wins as the Pelicans since 2016.... One. "Best development program in the NBA" lmao I swear y'all straight trippin

[@BestShootermanUbz]

Hard to understand when you have such a simple mind lil dude

[@Richboy9968]

SGA is like if you mixed Kobe and AI together .. the next 🐐

[@marcusstewart4444]

Slow your roll with OKC. Washington did not play and Lively was no where near 100%. OKC had something to prove. The Mavericks went to the NBA Finals and will beat them again in post season. They can keep that Cup let's see when it really counts.

[@Masgrandejefe]

Thunder also didn’t have two rotation guys… stop crying about who didn’t play. Luka and kyrie was out in prison. COPE

[@marcusstewart4444]

@Masgrandejefe You know PJ owns the Thunder. Congratulations hopefully that makes your season with a win that THEY needed for confidence. I also hope they have the best record again so we can bounce their asses out again!

[@harrisonzahn5715]

Damn you’re really out here talking with your mouth full huh.

[@PeterWilson-c3u]

@@marcusstewart4444 I don't think PJ is the solution. Did PJ go on a shooting streak during last year's playoffs? Yes! But he's not a reliable shooter and has never been known as a difference maker in his entire basketball career.

[@marcusstewart4444]

@@PeterWilson-c3u He owns the Thunder. He would have been the defender on that zesty Shai.

[@coreyhiggins6890]

😂 okc fans hanging banners and throwing parades...loser frachise win something...bring back the Sonics

[@smitherines876]

Another episode more disappointment in legs, your luka bias is showing, if he cant be the type of player to recognize how good kyrie is and that it wont take anything away from him to take steps back or even encourage and offer kyrie to take lead ball responsibility when kyrie has been in the league longer than him, than he's not deserving of all this praise you always give him. If your IQ is as high as you claim you shouldnt be so accepting and pushing that idea that that is lukas attitude. But you have your agendas like everyone else, so you want luka to be selfish like he is even at the detriment to team basketball and team success, disappointing but not surpised.

[@RGreene]

All of our PFs were out. OKC took 50 3s and had 101FGs...it was insane. If PJ plays, this is a different game. People forget we already beat OKC WITHOUT LUKA!!!!

[@darenjefferson3010]

OKC played that game without a center on the roster. Hartenstein & Chet were injured for that game.

[@giggaliga]

If Lu Dort would be officiated the way they do with most other players, he would foul out almost every game... But hey, let him beat up and hurt people and say instead of that he is just a dirty player, that he is an oh so great defender...

[@charlesfranczyk3458]

If Luka would be officiated the way they do with most other players, he would foul out almost every game.... But hey, let him cry and yell at refs and say instead of that he is just a whiney player, that he is an oh so passionate player...

[@brycewayne8729]

Enough with the OKC talk geez. "Impressive win" really? DALLAS DIDN'T HAVE PJ WASHINGTON‼️‼️ If the Mavs are fully healthy, nobody besides Boston can compete with em. Only reason Celtics won last yr is cuz Luka was hobbled with injuries

[@spencerwarner9268]

The Thunder were without their second best player dawg. It’s not like the Mavs are the only team dealing with injuries

[@alekhorsman6972]

@@spencerwarner9268also missing JWil as well meaning Kenny Hustle has to play small ball 5

[@flyboygreg09]

Typical Mavs glazer it’s ok to lose to a better team.

[@davidv8216]

From another mavs fan... this is a dumb comment. Mavs guards weren't ready for OKC's defensive intensity last night. If healthy, these two teams will play in the playoffs a lot the next five years, and we'll see what happens. Both teams are very good and will likely continue to be very good.

[@jlavigne1155]

Luka injured Isn't the only reason they couldn't beat Boston