Fake one sound a lot better then the real one if you ask me
@alexp81065 жыл бұрын
maybe the smaller depth allows for a more concentrated release of pressure, but as for the springs i'm not sure. I can say that the suction is probably better on the "real" ?
@kadenduncan95195 жыл бұрын
Luis Jaramillo sometimes it’s not all about the sound, id rather have better function than a better sound
@woodrowvorters78485 жыл бұрын
Lmao i said the same thing
@armdrop1oh1775 жыл бұрын
@@woodrowvorters7848 they work fine.. car won't make enough power for it not to anyway.
@jasaircraft5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like "fffffakeshhh" 😁
@korishan5 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist!! They were made in the same factory using the same tooling. The "knockoff" version is just using the parts that didn't pass the Authentic quality standards of TiAL and a few lesser expensive parts (steel band vs machines aluminum). This is "very" common in the auto industry. Most autoparts across different "manufacturers" are really made in the same plant with different labels slapped on the box
@JQ_Unity5 жыл бұрын
Korishan I bought a charge pipe and bov together for $120 on Ali Express. The hks Bov it came with is as functional as it gets. Came with the hks ssqv papers too. Functions and sounds the same. It's the same thing, had a few scuffs on the outside which is probably why. I wouldn't risk it on an external wastegate though.
@Justin-dy2ib5 жыл бұрын
Actually this knock off Tial is the V1. But I’ve rebuilt plenty of them with mostly authentic Tial parts. They do great actually.
@stephenlevy65175 жыл бұрын
@@JQ_Unity wait a year, itll leak at at the bov O-Ring and they're pretty damn hard to find. Saving on the front end is only gonna cost you on the back end.
@jimhiscott29184 жыл бұрын
Really? How do you know this? Please inform
@jimhiscott29184 жыл бұрын
@@Justin-dy2ib Correct. The V1 copy is great, the V2 not so much. Been running the V1 copy for 3 years now. No issues
@gsr187t5 жыл бұрын
"Fake one" sounds better for my pocket.
@prushimush5 жыл бұрын
Fake works well, just make sure to take it apart and take a good look at it and make sure the diaphragm isn't pinched. Make sure you unscrew the bottom piece plate(that faces the flange/charge pipe) and load it up with red Loctite, too. Mine came loose and I am very lucky it didn't end up destroying my pistons and heads. It was caught in the flange.
@tpghl52255 жыл бұрын
Fake one sounds better 😂. Fake one seems pretty decent quality though.
@gearheadrd52635 жыл бұрын
You could've at least use a spring pressure tester to test the spring pressure, and also an actual air pressure test to see at what psi the real vs fake bov starts to leak.
@hosseinvs22244 жыл бұрын
that's what i was hoping for when clicking on thumbnail. or a push with finger on assembled units at least.
@prushimush5 жыл бұрын
I run the fake 50mm. It works well, but I have to say this: TAKE IT APART AND LOOK IT OVER BEFORE RUNNING IT. My flange plate(the part that faces the charge pipe/intake) came loose and was rattling around inside my flange. I am lucky the hole was too small to suck it into the intake, otherwise my head and pistons would be toast! Load that sucker up with red Loctite before you run it!
@andresdelgado35665 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for that info. I'll be doing that pronto.
@deethaarulaa4 ай бұрын
How’s the fake one going for you this many years later if you still have it? If not how long did you have it
@prushimush4 ай бұрын
@@deethaarulaa Still works, red loctite on the flange held up. I don't put a lot of miles on the car, maybe 2000 a year. I am running it with a Vortech v3 centrifugal supercharger so I'm not putting a ton of boost through it.
@alexmackellar95605 жыл бұрын
The knockoff is copying a Tial 50. The genuine is a Tial Q. They would sound different even if the 50 was genuine.
@AWD_T5 жыл бұрын
Boost leak test them. That’ll be the difference maker
@mtbandoutdoorfunwej27713 жыл бұрын
How
@andresitoux3 жыл бұрын
Knock off usually doesnt close all the way happened to me
@mperez97454 жыл бұрын
One note. The fake one you have to make sure the bottom plate on the bottom does not dislodge. It happens with fake tials on n54 bmws.
@802Garage5 жыл бұрын
You can tell the real TiAL vents a bit faster, but I actually prefer the sound of the fake, hahaha. I love how that car looks. I actually prefer the Z31 to the Z32 and that has to be one of my fav colors.
@mentallystablekanyewest15045 жыл бұрын
Yeah I like the pop ups on the z31
@roddydykes70535 жыл бұрын
802 Garage Z31 looks like the best of the late 80s and Z32 looks the best of the early 90s... I’d like the think the Z33 looks the best of the early 2000s cause I have a JDM one shipping in soon lol
@802Garage5 жыл бұрын
@@roddydykes7053 I've literally never heard a 350Z referred to as a Z33, hahaha. Personally out of the 3, the Z31 is still my favorite. They are all good looking cars though. Good luck with your JDM import!
@jsdzx4 жыл бұрын
If y’all don’t stop it. Only z31 that may look better than a z32 is if it’s compared to a z32 2+2 lol
@ethansadventuresWI5 жыл бұрын
I've tried many bov's some knockoffs work suprisingly well. They really are simple devices. My two favorites are the Forge and NGR type S.
@strentin135 жыл бұрын
Hi..from Italy. What animal do you have in the house that eats pumpkin?😊
@BoostedPastime4 жыл бұрын
The fake one sounds allot better and louder. The only thing that trips me out is the material and build quality of the diaphragm. I would think the fake one would go bad sooner due to cheaper stuff but who knows.
@BoostedMonkey4g633 жыл бұрын
You need to compare apples to apples, the black tial is a q version and the red is a 50mm old version. You can find this two different versions on Egay as well for around 70 dollars compared to 275 for a real Tial Q or the 50mm old version of Tial, to me the Q sounds better in the authentic version of course but the Egay version it doesn’t sound bad, but vacuum & boost leaks is what separate authentic since the knock off tends to leak.
@johnshaw32084 жыл бұрын
Love the Z31. I had a 86 turbo with a greddy type S.
@putrid25293 жыл бұрын
Had to go into the garage and make sure mine was the real deal 🤣. I think the most noticeable difference is the shape of the BOV at the bottom. Real has a C shaped curve while the fake one is flat then a 90 degree angle.
@kalyndyck3154 ай бұрын
I've used Rea and fake Tial Q. The fake one had a nicer sound, although I didn't verify what springs were in there. The fake one was closed during idle, the real one was open during idle. I'm sure if the springs were setup the same they'd sound about the same
@HighTimesTrader5 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that these blow-off valves will sound different if you use different Springs. you need to redo this test using the same spring in each.
@TurbochargedCreations5 жыл бұрын
@@jarrettembry643 Exactly what happened
@seeforyourself78412 жыл бұрын
Thing is, you're testing 2 different versions of Tial BOVs. The fake one is a BV 50 and the real one is a Q type...the different versions have different spring rates for vacuum at idle. Pretty apples to oranges test minus a general quality review. The Q type has wider outlets so it doesn't sound as aggressive by design.......
@jacobhoke5815 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a pressure test
@GroupWar3 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of the fake one much better!
@MoparHollics6 жыл бұрын
The red one sounds louder at a exaggerating level the black one sounds more decent great video 👍
@roddydykes70535 жыл бұрын
H. Garcia yeah I agree the black one had a “better” sound while the red a “cooler” sound
@phantasy20758 ай бұрын
does the spring give more sound?
@Usmc9132 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison. Exactly what I was looking for.
@SupraHenry5 жыл бұрын
Such a simple piece. They are hard to mess up
@mattykinzisland65713 жыл бұрын
1st joint 2nd joint... real scientific there buddy!
@SpectroRacingChannel5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this vid; it makes it easy to identify the differences in the real and fake ones
@tgsubie5 жыл бұрын
I actually like the knock off one better lol. This is good info.
@zackzul58844 жыл бұрын
Original tial bov : - aloy clamp - all screws are chop - diaphragm a lot deeper - diaphragm seal are soft rubber - serial number approve by TIALsport.
@8145dwerdna5 жыл бұрын
Uhh... the knock off isn't the q version... that's why the spring doesn't sit lower
@terryholley8265 жыл бұрын
I couldn't tell the difference between the two from the sound and I had headphones 🎧 on. Great video .
@jevaughnmcpherson41386 жыл бұрын
Looks like version 1 vs version 2 tial bov.. you are comparing both i thinkin.. the red is the 1st and the back is the 2nd
@TurbochargedCreations6 жыл бұрын
Red is a fake $40 knock off, black is real
@jevaughnmcpherson41386 жыл бұрын
@@TurbochargedCreations im tlkin about the versions tho.. the red one is first design. The black one is the new design "Q". Yu should compare them based on the versions.
@TurbochargedCreations6 жыл бұрын
@@jevaughnmcpherson4138 The video is to mainly demonstrate quality of each product, im sure a Chinese Q knock off would be about the same as this red one
@wikit16576 жыл бұрын
Exactement la noir c'est la version 2 et la rouge version 1 , mauvaise comparaison . Sur la mienne j'ai une fausse phase 2 et ça fonctionne très bien 👍
@normalsalaryman6 жыл бұрын
sound the same, but the real one had a harder spring thats why you can hear a little bit of a flutter noise just before the swooshh or fully open...
@TurbochargedCreations6 жыл бұрын
Yup, i want to get a lower spring, which i have, buts its to soft and doesnt run right
@universaldoorrepairs6 жыл бұрын
So your saying buy the fake one, but then buy the original Tial spring and your good!
@kellysmith74622 жыл бұрын
Great video, appreciated the simple explanation and breakdown.
@akfinner15 жыл бұрын
3:46 i want that bov
@GSRGaming6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a walkthrough of how you running an Intercooler piping?
@TurbochargedCreations6 жыл бұрын
Very soon my friend
@TurbochargedCreations6 жыл бұрын
video posted!
@been_slizzle Жыл бұрын
yo that "fake" one looks like it could be the real one from the previous generation tbh i had that bov before the Q was ever a thing and thats exactly what mine looked like
@wilmal45005 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it was sneezing lol
@samuelvasconcelos534 жыл бұрын
with fake BOV, I show the world: "I HAVE A TURBO CAR, DAMN! ''
@bretspangler87173 жыл бұрын
If you ever need a driver's door or left side fender I have a set, and a hatch all that dark gray color.
@MobWithGuns6 жыл бұрын
Wonder if you can swap diaphragms between both
@802Garage5 жыл бұрын
Typically with any of these copies, yes. It's actually what most people recommend. Buy a fake, use a name brand diaphragm and seal, Loctite the bolts. Goes for BOV, FPR, and wastegates.
@ll-rb7or5 жыл бұрын
Thsts what I thought , a quality tial diaphragm in the nock off housing = same quality🤔🤷♂️
@traxxastmaxx2.5r755 жыл бұрын
Thought I was watching thatdudeinblue at first oof
@TwIsTeDgRaFiCz856 жыл бұрын
They sound pretty much the same no doubt 👍
@snailfedperformance71775 жыл бұрын
Crazy that the fake one sounds better, but I like genuine parts due to build quality and longevity, I always buy and use genuine parts on customers cars.
@JackSz1913 жыл бұрын
The real one sounded like a sneeze while the fake one sounded like a whip
@thisguyshorty5 жыл бұрын
Tial rep with a real Tial spring will be just fine. Will also cost a fraction of the original.
@stenhouse85695 жыл бұрын
Got a link to that fake one ?
@ll-rb7or5 жыл бұрын
Test how much boost the fake can hold?
@kabardink4 жыл бұрын
39 psi
@blacklexus214 жыл бұрын
The fake one sounds way better ..... where did u order it from ?
@mattrockman10284 жыл бұрын
I think both of them sound better than my HKS valve.
@AKILASANKA8 ай бұрын
Around 7 yeaes back I've installed fake hks on my evo as i couldn't afford a genuine.btw it still ran fine while all the genuine guys had errors 😂. recently did the titanium piping and tial i don't really think bov is that primary as i run 3071gen 2.
@tenbears16483 жыл бұрын
Will the Tial springs work on the fake? It has a black spring in it now. I bought one off of ebay that was supposed to be a real one, but after watching this video I see it is a fake.
@martinl90255 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's a real replica I can tell you that you got a second generation blow off valve and first-generation blow off valve in the design Bv50 vs Q
@thatquickcivic14214 жыл бұрын
Fake one was super loud i give it a thumbs up how long it will last .... i have no clue
@jurgoSTI5 жыл бұрын
This isn't an apples to apples comparison. Those are two different TiAL models (yes I know one in the video is fake)
@johnmar16225 жыл бұрын
Not being biased, I have to say, not all knock offs are bad. This fake one comes with steel v band vs real(alloy). You have to be honest steel is way better and stronger. Sometimes you are paying advertising fees,administrations fees, logo fees, extra polish, middle man.....and so on. All these fees added up 7X of basic knock offs. Where when comes to basic and simple, the fake one is just as functional as the real one. And if you want vent quicker and shorter-increase the preload.
@ukfrosty5 жыл бұрын
Yes fake one sounds far better. Seriously. It's a spring and vacuum that releases pressure. Why people think something cheap can't do it I will never understand.
@Mrkouman4 жыл бұрын
Mine doesn't make a blow off noise at all and it's a tial... Maybe cause it's down in the fender but where can I get the fake one?? I want it louder
@turkishhusla5 жыл бұрын
What happend to the pumpkin
@MNCHH5.05 жыл бұрын
Got a link to hut the fake one ? 😂
@christerfer4093 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the fake one? Just wondering
@nigel_white2 жыл бұрын
I recognize your Z! You're in the GTA right?
@JOSHBUILDZ5 жыл бұрын
do you have a part number on these? especially the fake one lol
@lukecaggiano86215 жыл бұрын
Alright we all love BOV sounds but shouldn't we be comparing how well they perform instead of which one is louder? Like a pressure test? Like if the fake can hold up to whatever boost your gonna run then yeah get the fake one, it's cheaper, more$$ for other mods. I'd like to think that I wouldn't buy a performance part just to make a louder whoosh
@EidherMendoza3 жыл бұрын
The the tial bov same as the forge bov ??
@pospc25 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the fake and search terms?
@ramiresjose394 жыл бұрын
Fake one sounds alot better than real one
@alexitis86473 жыл бұрын
How mutch boost are you running? Is it on the soft spring?
@brianjackson7083 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 that thing is RoboCop on wheels!!!!
@ChrisHiler4G63T4 жыл бұрын
Real Q bov vs fake QR bov?
@PH0203 жыл бұрын
Generic tail BOV ftw, just change the spring for your application 😉 they work and sound the same for a fraction of the price
@stargellplantijn2865 жыл бұрын
Fake one sounds good, till it falls apart, and get sucked in your engine. We has a friend go trough this a few years back. Spend the money, buy quality. I've have tial on 3 of my vihicles for over 10 yrs.
@dcs-motorsport5 жыл бұрын
Fake one for the win lol
@AlexCapi3 жыл бұрын
in the UK the TIAL one is £250 and the chinese one is £40
@jonny1511 Жыл бұрын
Bei 210 Euro mehr für den selben Zweck ziehe ich das China Produkt mit Sicherheit vor.
@Lionelthien4 жыл бұрын
The fake one wins in sound 😎
@ALYangRSX4 жыл бұрын
Any updates?
@armandocervantes6294 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the fake one ?
@captainchaos68125 жыл бұрын
Castleberry needs to watch this
@CT-pc3rh5 жыл бұрын
The fake one actually sounded better
@bryansenulis29755 жыл бұрын
Fake one has softer springs to let it blow off. That only difference
@qrs36583 жыл бұрын
in ma opinion the fake one sound kinda better
@jacksonchan68224 жыл бұрын
Fake sounds good as well
@subfrost74 жыл бұрын
oooooooooooooooo i like that knock off one daammmnnnnn
@LZGARAGE.2 жыл бұрын
Greddy type s sounds the best
@Loebane5 жыл бұрын
Z31 yeah!
@strentin135 жыл бұрын
The fake has different preloads and low quality oring. If it was not written Tial, but BLOWTECH ~ ... It was still a good product, as a first installation.
@jasonpetrich41415 жыл бұрын
Only difference is the release port on the (fake one is machined bigger) so more sound,more air, smaller ports,less sounds, they function the exact same, unless one has a tighter spring!😒😕
@nobullshiit56823 жыл бұрын
how is it legal to knock off someone elses blow off valve and sell them on ebay ?
@zokusharuuku10913 жыл бұрын
What if the entire time they told us the real tial was actually the fake one and they just fooled everyone watching this video🤯
@wholelottamiata69765 жыл бұрын
Nice review
@backyardbuilttrucks13 жыл бұрын
Fakes leak , diaphragm does not last , my VS Racing (Tial knock off ) ones worked for a year then leaked like crazy. Put a couple on a V8 on about 15lbs and listen.
@KreatorOfDeath19853 жыл бұрын
Where do I get the fake one haha, sounds way better.
@KnineLiveZ6 жыл бұрын
Yeah they sound the same. Should of done harder single pulls so we can get a better idea.
@4bvenom7335 жыл бұрын
Are them both pretty much same price
@TurbochargedCreations5 жыл бұрын
No, 4-5 times the price
@jaylencuffy27535 жыл бұрын
A pretty good knock off
@Trenchboi695 жыл бұрын
Y does the fake one sound better
@coquigotit15 жыл бұрын
You can buy a real diaphragm and put it on a bootleg tial and it works fine