Old Top Gear 1993 Mazda RX-7 vs Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 vs Jaguar XJS

[@Acc0rd79]

To this day that RX7 is drop dead sexy, absolute perfection in 90's design. It will still turn heads on the roads today. Definitely would love to buy one some day as a toy car.

[@RoadRunneR69]

I know! But look at the kit on the 3000.. More stuff to go wrong i guess...

[@Acc0rd79]

RoadRunneR The 3000 was always a nice car but the RX7 has beauty which the 3000 never had, perfect size and curves. I know people bitch about the engine but most people would buy this as a second or third car and can afford the basic maintenance I figure.

[@RoadRunneR69]

Or LS7 swap it, LOL.

[@Doophys]

RoadRunneR That's treason and should be punishable by death

[@GlassTopRX7]

It's does more than turn heads, it's an attention magnet for people of all ages. Nearly every time I take mine out someone is asking about. Frequently I have people taking pictures of when I park it in public.

[@angelojamil23]

'theres even an airbag as standard'. jesus. those were the days.

[@theshapeexists]

Angelo Jamil lol. it's fuel injected too. wow. those were the days.

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

@@theshapeexists They still are, BMW keep using the i in their model names for injection.

[@clydedonovan4240]

Man it sucks Mazda and Mitsubishi don't make cars like these anymore... :p

[@0nkelD0kt0r]

Mitsubishi is so fuckin dead, they don't even make Evos anymore. There will be a RX-9 soon though so all is not lost for Mazda.

[@Zygrene]

Mazda just confirmed the RX-9 isn't happening. What a massive tease.

[@0nkelD0kt0r]

+Zygrene Did they? I heard that it is only "rumors" and it is not really clear if they want to make it or not.

[@PochoNieves]

SAY IT ISNT SO!!!!

[@devonlaporte9801]

Pocho Nieves turn the lights off

[@ShenghongZhang]

Heck, 3000GT had active aero long before it became a norm in the super cars.

[@whisperdancer]

Shane Zhang and Lancia had a boot lid retractable spoiler in their thema 8.32 way before this...

[@thepro08]

just to think german overpriced cars just make a big deal about having 4 wheel steering in their bmws today, or porsches had turbos and please give me a ticked spoilers... in the 90s...

[@harryhatchet9767]

its still shit.

[@ferreira94a]

Aw jeez lester

[@DarthVader-1701]

And they act like all that crap nowadays is something new when in fact it's been around for 30+ years. The video is 8 years old but still relevant to this day. With a few exceptions modern cars are boring.

[@VaughnJogVlog]

Looks like 1986... until you see the RX-7.

[@bjarnemachiels3897]

VaughnJogVlog Shoulda been a newer 3000GT. The 1996 model looks sick

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

it was 93

[@997Productions]

80s still had influences in the early 90s, onwards it died out.

[@Zacherdio]

I like that literally nobody here would pick the XJS out of the three cars :D

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

In 30 years perhaps. Looks like it's from the mid-70s.

[@scottsherman7069]

Zacheryah I certainly would, best looking one there!

[@TheBimmerfan]

I would.

[@adamburgess6770]

Thats because it was.

[@scottsherman7069]

Pocho Nieves the only reason the RX7 is so expensive now is fanboys like you...

[@pedromata4125]

Happy to say I'm an owner of a 91 mitsubishi 3000gt vr4 :)

[@3bomen]

Pedro Mata is it working

[@channinghoward5510]

I'm proud owner of a 94 Mazda FD

[@johnbobadilla3959]

Pedro Mata I'm a proud owner of a Mitsubishi 3000gt sl:(

[@DaytonaBlueHr]

Pedro Mata owner of a 95 dohc dodge stealth rt which is basically a 3000gt but without turbo i think

[@maxbruce4220]

I'm an owner of a 1993 Mazda RX7

[@silverssonyoutube8438]

damn the 90's was so old looking .

[@Burago2k]

the cameras were average or even bad, thats why, there are quite a lot of 90s videos with way better quality, this be lookin like 70s

[@bigmanmegee]

no shit inspector gadget

[@RetroGamerr1991]

Yeah Jeremy, except the XJS was put together with wood glue and indifference.

[@Shadow1986]

hahahaha

[@TotallyNotASpy1]

And will break down every day.

[@angelicacushing6032]

Which one will I choose? The mazda or the Mitsubishi? Hmmm............I choose...Nationalism!

[@zhbvenkhoReload]

Angelica Cushing The Mazda is a bit more expensive to maintain because of.the rotary

[@SeinSchatten]

Mazdubishi

[@axl1632]

I choose the Mitsubishi, because with the RX-7 FD you cant go anywhere without been followed.....specially if you have a yellow or a red one.

[@federalcasemaker]

Mazda

[@SargeMimpson]

Jaaag

[@ramongonzalez9497]

that jaguar probably didn't last 5 years after this was shot

[@TheBimmerfan]

That Jaguar is surely still on the road and in good shape.

[@heikopanzlaff3789]

Have an 1988 RX 7 - still on our unlimited roads in germany ...

[@jonathangwynne1917]

I bet there are more XJSs still on the road than RX7s as a percentage of cars sold. I've owned two RX7s and 3 Jags. The rotary engines are super cool but of all the things you could say about them that are great... reliability isn't on the list. My Jags, on the other hand, were tough as old boots.

[@Zanzibar2Far]

Probably a prang...

[@richardhowle4871]

@@TheBimmerfan bullshit

[@ashleyellis182]

"There's even an airbag provided as standard." Excellent... :)

[@enricofumi8072]

choosing jxs over rx7 is just absurd

[@RawShogun]

i get more excited watching these old cars then anything new thats come out.

[@ComandanteJ]

Gotta love both the RX7 and the GTO... but if i had to pick, i'd go for the GTO. Massive and awesome.

[@Jafromobile]

What? How? How did Clarkson fit in an RX-7? I'm 6'4" tall and couldn't even get my butt down into the seat. Knees buried in the dash. There's a much larger and funnier story about this for me, but nobody actually reads KZbin comments anymore.

[@aintaintaword666]

i would

[@Jafromobile]

I tried. In 1993, I was in college and my truck had broken down. My stepfather drove me to a Mazda dealership to negotiate buying the black on black on black RX-7 TT that was on the corner of the lot. 4 hours of brochures, credit checks, financing, we finally walk out as the sun sets, I grab the door handle, it's locked, the keyhole lights up to show me where to stick it. The key goes in, the door opens, I move the seat all the way back, recline it as far as it would go, right leg first, knee hits center console, butt hits seat back, head hits doorjamb. I didn't fit. Stepfather behind me starts laughing. For two whole minutes while I tried, The only sounds are my bones impacting the cramped, rigid interior of this super-compact, the cars rushing by I-20 in Conyers, and my stepfather laughing. He said, "oh well, come on let's go", and then nothing for the hour drive back home. I got my truck back repaired the following weekend. That's the super-condensed version, but it's a true story. FTR: I have a 36" inseam.

[@AdultsAreTalking]

Jafromobile so in the 90's when you were in college you just nonchalantly randomly picked a Mazda dealer with your step-dad to go to and the same day financed a $30,000+ sports car you never sat in because your truck broke down? I know you said that was the condensed version of your story but you left soooo many holes lol Anyway, the non sunroof option RX7's had a considerable amount more headroom.

[@Jafromobile]

Aaron Jackier My truck blew a transmission at 170,000 miles. It was down for 7 months because they couldn't find a used replacement. I was driving a hideous powder-blue 1980 Ford Escort Wagon (google it), and on weekends when I'd drive home, the discussion was always all about my truck as well as whatever sports cars were available at the time (my stepfather was a huge SCCA participant and owned several Shelbys and a Pantera). The RX-7 topic came up A LOT. After almost 7 months of waiting, and randomly popping-in on the service shop, we stopped at the Mazda dealer in Conyers, GA that was on the same street. We had to drive by it in order to check on my truck. The car we kept reading and talking about was right there in front of us on the corner. I think my stepfather knew I wouldn't fit, I think he knew the transmission shop had found a donor, and I think he never intended to buy that RX-7. He ultimately paid to have my truck repaired, but not without having some fun with me first. Master troll status. He had to have known… I call BS that Jeremy Clarkson is 6'5" unless he's got short little goat legs and a really long torso. There's no way he can fit in a stock '93 RX-7 if he's 6'5". I'm less than a half inch shorter than that and I didn't fit. In 1993, I was only 178 lbs.

[@brycem2161]

I do... even 3 yrs late

[@ishanbb]

Birth of the two jdm unsung heroes

[@E_tiBEAMERBOY]

William Kolt 3000gt is underrated

[@barrettoliver2009]

What ? They two of the most popular sports cars out there . They are mainstream and very well renowned cars

[@drummerdoingstuff5020]

You'd have to be a fool to pick that jag over that rx7!!!

[@MrJobwelldone]

lol good joke! (he said jag)

[@drummerdoingstuff5020]

+Josh Spain oh dear I've seemed to misplace my wallet...

[@drummerdoingstuff5020]

+Josh Rinlee this is starting out to be the weirdest day! I just turned top gear on and guess what their talking about!?

[@TheBimmerfan]

No, you have to be a fool to pick a car like rx7 which engine lasts for about 80 000km and has no down/mid range torque at all. Wankels are joke.

[@ilya3379]

You'd have to be a fool to pick the old XJS which has as much structural rigidity as a potato chip

[@aus80srockradio94]

Mazda every day. That model RX-7 will never date.

[@VaunShiz]

did he know back then how crap that jag was lol

[@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg]

The XJS had been on sale for over fifteen years at that point, so I'm pretty sure he knew all about it.

[@Zanzibar2Far]

I really like it's looks and 5.2 V12, even if it was unreliable.

[@jamesannis5372]

This is where the "miata is a chicks car," started. DAMNN YOU JEREMY CLARKSON!

[@HandsomeMoose]

I can understand the Mazda vs the Mitsubishi choice but … vs the Jaguar... What!?

[@AdultsAreTalking]

Stealth the British are very proud people and had to stick their own heritage in any shot they had. I've noticed that in most top gear episodes from way back when. Not so much though in the more modern top gear.

[@danny1ft1]

Fuck off I'm British, FD all the way! BBC was probably paid by jag more like.

[@barrettoliver2009]

@@danny1ft1 I think its that the two japanese cars are very shouty and boastful , whereas the jag is quiet and smug . The jaguar is the option that suits clarkson more . And in my opinion , the more mature option as well , although that is a matter of taste .

[@danny1ft1]

@@barrettoliver2009 I agree it suits Clarkson, but as for more mature eh I don't think so the RX7 R spirit is a classic that is going up in cost don't think the jag can say the same I think the RX7 can be many things it can be loud shouty and immature but in its classic form it's now one of the nicest looking cars of its time it has almost a timeless look it has aged really well unlike the jag.

[@ut2k4wikichici]

ahhh 90s, back when jdm was interesting and not boring whitegoods

[@Sirdiggar]

"These days in London the average speed of cars in traffic is 10mph" - 1993 Things aint changed much then.

[@ianfrench1577]

The irony of Jeremy Clarkson talking about how people judge you based upon your car and clothing, as he strolls out rocking double denim, and a Brian May poodle hairstyle

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I wish Mitsubishi and Mazda had the balls to actually make a beautiful car like this again, and people had the brains to buy them. Of the two, the Mitsubishi 3000GT (GTO) takes the cake. AWD, bigger seats, much better engine

[@es0x]

The 3000GT was put together with glue and duck tape. I had one for two years and they are disgustingly unreliable

[@SilverScarletSpider]

@@es0x would you ever buy one of these beauties again? 😍🚗

[@LanceLoverPartDeux]

@@es0xwhat had you been doing to your 3000 bro? Ive got a 91 vr4 (aka the most unreliable one you could possibly get) and all thats gone wrong is that i had to replace an O2 sensor (and basic maintenance)

[@es0x]

@@SilverScarletSpider I’ve looked at a couple stealths over the years. If there was a nice enough deal I’d think about it

[@es0x]

@@LanceLoverPartDeux didn’t abuse it. Probably only put like 3k on it since I owned it. The other car I owned at the time (07 s197 GT) took the most utter abuse a car has ever taken in history and only ever needed new tires to replace the ones I burnt off

[@MegaKillDog]

Look at all these toys! There's even an airbag!

[@kayarminserjoie226]

For more than 30 years, I've watched Jeremy Clarkson on old top gear on TV, classic top gear on cable and satellite, and grand tour online, and I've just watched the last segment, one for the road, It truly is the end of an era for me

[@oikawasthottiestpotato8106]

When you’re in 2023 and watching old top gear to finally decide on the Mazda rx7

[@Roger5970]

3000gt!

[@gnrtradepro]

XJS? You must have a crush on the tow truck driver.

[@Arayig1982]

Probably the most durable within the three however.

[@mczenk5095]

RX7 all day.

[@richard_nj]

I'm just a massive weeb for japanese sports cars from 1980-2000. They're simply perfect in every way to me. Those two are among my favourites along with the likes of the 300zx (I like the first gen better but both are fine), the mk3 supra (mk4 is fine too, but at this point, driving a mk4 is like the motoring equivalent of having a tramp stamp) or the Honda NSX. And I wouldn't say no to a Skyline either.

[@dukenukeman]

noticed how the rx-7 had smoked tail lights stock

[@SavageListener]

RX-7 is timeless. The only update it needs is a more reliable engine like the 2.0 Skyactiv turbo and LED lights and it would still look modern.

[@PochoNieves]

I like how you think

[@Kristo99]

nah, you cant replace the amazing sound of a rotary, but the sad thing is the reliability yea

[@AdultsAreTalking]

Yeah if you take the engine out, it's not an rx7 anymore.

[@monsiuersmartypants3391]

you took the words out of my mouth. i wonder if theres a cheap way to put the new cx9 turbo engine in one.

[@MyILoveMinecraft]

monsiuer smartypants don't. Just don't.

[@Tool0GT92]

And those RX7 engines run HOT! They are always firing.

[@ObesePuppies]

Tool0GT92 but solo shot first

[@obsidian00]

My very first car was a MAZDA RX-7...arresting me red...I love this car till this day!

[@Dan-bg5fm]

obsidian00 that's a dope first car!! I've always wanted one

[@obsidian00]

Wilfred I want another one...I am way too big for one but I don't care!

[@Dan-bg5fm]

obsidian00 i will get one when i have the money for it. I would love to make it a track car . say , most sports cars aren't too friendly to taller guys. Im 5'11, so tall enough to know the struggle

[@rossocoroc5850]

The 3000GT looks tough

[@GrayDogMX5]

There is something incongruent about Jeremy's hair and his stated desire for "something a little less disco boy".

[@elliestarrco]

Rx7 has been my dream car since I could possibly dream and remember. In NJ roads I have fears but that doesn’t stop me from looking at the market every week.

[@Hapkido82AUS]

I forgot how long JC had been doing this. A shame to see how its all turned out now...

[@user-zq6yz5gf6d]

The RX7 took styling cues from 60s and 70s British Roadsters (E-type included) and was designed to look like a future classic.

[@coast2coast00]

My first reaction to the E-type comparison was... not really. But then I realised that from the E-type to this video and from this video to now was the same amount of time and the RX-7 still looks fantastic, so I guess he was right about that one!

[@ryanh5712]

the rx-7 makes the other 2 look super old.

[@leslie7872]

how to fuck does the 3000gt look old... wtf... it looks a lot more modern the rx7

[@Dongzzzzzz]

Leslie H. neh, the Rx 7 has a timeless design but the components of the Mitsubishi are more modern like the ac, spoiler, etc. just my opinion

[@WingedSumac]

Thank you very much for posting this vid. As someone who was a sponsored Circuit driver in 2 of these 3 cars, and a huge fan of Top Gear, new and old, this vid was perfect for me!

[@codenayr7894]

“New Mazda rx7” ah… 30 years ago…

[@paultasker7788]

To make that video more realistic he should get in the XJS and it would fail to start! Can imagine James May going oh cock😂

[@kevinmahoque5608]

I don't like old Japanese cars but choosing an XJS over an RX-7 is just madness... Maybe by there the jag wasn't so bad.. But still

[@GazTheKitman]

The GTO was the Evo before the Evo existed. Superb car.

[@thedragonreborn7444]

actually the Galant VR4 was the Evo before the Evo existed. The GTO was a step above into the touring car class. Also the Evo 1 just came out when this video was made.

[@herihao797]

Good memory of 1990s. RX-7 is one of my dream cars!!

[@ningishziddashar3480]

the ending wasn't bias at all!

[@zhbvenkhoReload]

The days of Japanese corporate competition are long gone and today they are just competing to see who makes the fastest Prius

[@erikvance1841]

Can I have what you're smoking? Lexus has their hyper sports car. Toyota is returning the Supra. Honda continues their Civic Type R. Acura is returning the NSX. Nissan dominates with its Skyline and lesser Z model. And you say Japanese competition is dead? Again please let me know what you're smoking. I want some!

[@AdultsAreTalking]

Erik Vance The NSX is already back

[@zhbvenkhoReload]

LOL Electric cars are for "men"

[@cb1671]

That Rx-7 is beautiful. I still prefer my 2nd gen, but each generation has its own look.

[@theshapeexists]

I see a whole bunch of 3000 gts on the road still today. rx7s, maybe seen a handful.

[@iliaz7057]

theshapeexists most of the rx7 must have broken down

[@tp7886]

theshapeexists I have a feeling that a majority of 3000gts are the non-turbo L models or whatever. I see quite a few of them still but far fewer VR4s.

[@theshapeexists]

tp7886 yea, I don't see any dodge stealths though. they had the same body and chassis as the 3000gt, but dodges powertrain for them wasn't as tough as Mitsubishi

[@andrewmeilinger6203]

theshapeexists they are the exact same...built side by side in the same factory in Japan...

[@theshapeexists]

Andrew Meilinger interesting. I guess I just don't see the dodges anywhere cuz they aren't as sought after.

[@franciscomuniz7617]

He picked the Jag in the end but no one collects those pieces of shit. The mazda is the only icon of the 3 cars.

[@TeslaHaxz]

Francisco Muniz maybe to the basic tun3r boiz

[@heedneed-arcade5977]

Ah the 3000gt, the bringer of active aero and a fantastic yet slightly overlooked JDM car. The RX7... do I need to say anything?

[@prokoerkoerfeuuififune8936]

thats what makes it cool the rx7 is a instagram infuleencers car

[@textmachine09]

why not both of them? rx-7 for drifting and mountain roads 3000gt for circuit and daily driving

[@suckmydingledong]

The 3000GT has poor mileage and is a bit of a hassle to maintain because of fancy electronics, 4 wheel drive and 4 wheel steering.

[@997Productions]

Two favorites, both in Red. I hit the visual eye candy jackpot.

[@z3k139]

even back then jeremy was great

[@El_Chompo]

"Nutters all night disco boy" lol

[@rebelusa6585]

Cars during the '90s are prettiest looking. The rx7 and 3000gt are more pretty looking and more reliable than xjs, the xjs is as reliable as the dark skin dark hair Jeremy Clarkson.

[@JackstandJohnny]

If only they knew then that the Mazdas engine would need to be rebuilt every 60k miles and the Mitsubishi was so complicated that even the dealerships refuse to work on them.

[@Steve-ec6ed]

I miss my 3000gt they are fucking sexy cars and still looks good to this day. Way ahead of its time.

[@rockolutheran]

3000gt any day

[@cnon.]

Haha good joke

[@darielvazquez3422]

Same 👍

[@Albanus35]

Bet on Pistons!

[@karelpipa]

both any day.

[@tacklefatkids]

cnon how? Why would you want a car that is gonna bring you more attention than normal I've had friends who have had a rx7 stolen the value and the gas mileage is terrible although the sound is great that's not a reason to have a car. It's more practical to own a 3000GT. If you don't drive like a maniac your tires will be in good shape and it's much more comfortable. Less attention as well I wouldn't want a car that can't pass smog like the rx8 or rx7

[@maxbruce4220]

I love me 93 RX7 more than any other car

[@5taytuned550]

I'd take a 3000GT over the rx7, building one is just much easier maintaining it was as well. Now if you told me that rx7 was 3 or 4 rotary I'd reconsider

[@chrischoy9]

Only consider if you can actually afford a complete engine rebuilt every 100k miles and half the miles travelled per tank.

[@JustKyzuuh]

+chrischoy9 If you know how to take care of a rotary engine vs a piston engine, you can get well over 200,000 miles out of them.

[@AdultsAreTalking]

Wait...... You'd take the 3000GT over an RX7 because the mitsubishi is easier to maintain. But, if the RX7 had more rotors you'd reconsider?? That makes it LESS easier to maintain than a standard 13b. What the fuck thought process is that?

[@Busta033]

How could not Jeremy notice that RX7 will become a legend?

[@johnericbobadilla9235]

Rx7!!

[@Rollin_Heavy_Steel]

"There's even an airbag provided as standard." Haha love this

[@emmetdonnelly2072]

I wish cars were still made with pop up headlamps. Think the 2003 corvette was last to use them?!

[@Black973000GTVR4]

Man, i miss my VR4

[@hangyin4068]

'...the net result is 281 hp which, let's face it, is enough.' - Jeremy Clarkson, 1993 'I believe in SPEED and POWAHHHHHHH!' - Jeremy Clarkson, 2002

[@ceirwan]

Holy shit that double denim!

[@ObesePuppies]

RickkyP the other jay leno

[@MarkGelderland]

The XJS wasn't cheaper in my country; -RX7 fl.155450, -3000GT fl.164900, -XJS 4.0 fl.197600

[@7homas0wen]

Well at least Mazda still makes pretty sporty cars. Mitsubishi on the other hand... I mean if you’d like an Outlander.

[@trockeneis1000]

I had a Mitsubishi 3000GT US Version from 1997 until 2 years ago. Sold it. Regret it... Now I have a Mustang GT 5.0 But I miss the GTO, it was sooo comfortable to drive long distance and still an eyecatcher. Great car.

[@aaroncake]

Clarkson made a mistake. The FD used two same-sized HT12 turbos. Not a smaller primary and larger secondary.

[@itaycohen145]

Legendary man reviewing legendary cars

[@joshcantrell4720]

2018 and the rx7 still looks modern

[@bobsagit10]

Now we know in 2016 that the Mazda was clearly the better car

[@bett431]

Bob Sagit not really. it's simply more reliable because there was nothing that could break. The Mitsubishi was full of tech. Also where did you get a great wankel engine if not at Mazda. So its more iconic too.

[@petermartin9494]

You mean:"The Mitsubishi was full of junk"

[@bett431]

Peter Martin there is literally no reason to hate it now, dude. Also every modern car with loads of tech will have the same issues in some years.

[@petermartin9494]

I don't hate it. I just don't care about it, and I certainly don't want it.

[@bett431]

Peter Martin "The Mitsubishi was full of junk" sounds like hating you know. And it's fine if you dont want it. There are better cars today.

[@zykx2213]

Damn Jeremy’s style slaps back in the day. 😂😂

[@martinmurphy1563]

Clarkson is the original motor journalist, with a pocketful of jokes

[@6spdkeg]

Lol the differences between the jag and the fried rice are so astounding! truely steak and potatoes vs sushi and rice.

[@420FlyByNight]

Oh Jeremy, where did all your hair go?

[@guy5828]

They took different paths the Mitsubishi ended up as a Ferrari, and the rx7 ended up at a car yard after drifting.

[@itsthatsebguy93]

You would have to be insane to pick the XJS over the two other cars.

[@suckmydingledong]

It's ahead in reliability and ease of maintenance.

[@itsthatsebguy93]

K10 a 12 Clynder Jag? You're joking right??

[@suckmydingledong]

iBeer420noscope The RX-7 has a rotary engine which is high maintenance and has known issues. The other car has 4ws and 4x4 so it's kind of complicated compared to: The Jag. A V engine, rwd car. Pretty basic except for the fact that it's an old, brittish car with a v12 engine. So probably a draw. Of course I'd still go for the RX-7.

[@suckmydingledong]

iBeer420noscope Also I dont really have a fucking clue im gonna fuck off now

[@SpitfireFortyFour]

@@itsthatsebguy93 In the 70s they were shit, but by this point they'd been developed enough that they were pretty bomb proof.

[@Fallen_blackrose]

ol i spent 6500 on my 3000GT SL, and he's also not kidding about the AC, I wore a sweater all summer driving it

[@MovedbyTruth]

I'd have the RX-7. Way better project cars and better in a race. They're also one of the best drift cars ever made with 50/50 weight distribution, rear wheel drive and an insanely high redline. The 3000GT is also notorious for bad wiring and electrical problems.

[@chrisacm2082]

two problems with both cars , one) the mitsubishi 3000gt vr4 or regular gt where a pain to work on when it broke down on you , and two) the rx7 apex seal would go out and would make you rebuild the engine but other then that those two cars where beauty's

[@GunFunZS]

Retrospectively, the Jaguar isn't worth putting new tires on, the RX7 is a fought-over collectible, and the DSM is about on par with other cars of its vintage. I've always wanted a 3kgt, especially the ones with all the gadgetry such as 4 wheel steering.

[@MarkkTheSharkk]

3000GT is NOT a DSM

[@GunFunZS]

***** So it looks like you have a bunch of pent up frustration here. You have perhaps a page of ranting against things I didn't even come close to saying. I like 3000 GTs and DSMs and many other things. I always find coke v. pepsi wars to be childish, and the same applies to the muscle vs rice people. Personally, I like light, compact, turbo, with handling, but if someone else wants a barge with a big motor I have nothing against him. Take a breath and relax. I ain't your enemy, and my vehicles don't define me. If you need something to be your identity, this is not a big enough issue to be worth the energy. You seem to think I am a muscle car guy or a schlub who does hack modding of cars based on trends, and dislikes. That's funny, because in my immediate family there are two people who are DSM tuners and have been since the mid 90s. A cousin and his friend would tune them up and run them into the ground for a medical courier service. They definitely preferred a talon as starting points. A friend has a shop that probably built a half dozen of them among other things too. Between 5 or so family and close acquaintance, they probably had about a dozen 1st gen eclipses or whatever. Frequently they would get the AWD cars that had been towed and put a FWD drivetrain on them for a cheap ride to wear out. But when they wanted to make a nice one, it was a talon version every time. I enjoyed every one of them that I drove, but I will probably never own one. Motorcycles are more fun per effort to me.

[@Jimbo8012]

+GunFun ZS - That's not strictly true. Low mileage XJS can go for quite a lot of money particularly if they're low mileage. The late model Celebration models are at least equal in price to the top RX7's. There's just a huge variation in prices - anything from £1,000 for basket cases to £25,000+ for low mileage, run out V12 Celebration Convertible models. The RX7 is a collectible but from that era the most valuable Japanese cars in the UK are - Honda NSX, Nissan Skyline, Toyota Supra Twin Turbo (non-import), Mazda RX7, Mitsubishi 3000GT, & Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo (in that order).

[@KingLich451]

I wonder how does the GTO fares today...

[@bett431]

Ege Baysal Not good. It was basicly a driving computer. Ahead of its time but there was just so much stuff that would break after some time.

[@KingLich451]

Yeah, that makes sense, considering that it is no longer produced and also it's about 20 years old... Best stick with the evolution X

[@bett431]

Ege Baysal Is there actually more than one person in the world that says "I'm feeling much better now that Mitsubishi wants to go green and that they no longer produce the evo."?

[@shazbotgaming7576]

I had a 1993 VR-4 from 2002-2004. Sooo many electrical gremlins in that car.. Oh and it got about 200-250 miles on a 20 gallon tank of gas.. so roughly 10 - 12.5 mpg.. rofl. I did drive fast though..

[@TeslaHaxz]

I see them everywhere, and know a guy that owns 3 vr4's

[@Oblio1942]

how is a twin turbo twin rotar motor back to basics?

[@sniperlif3]

You don't pay attention, do you? "The Mazda achieves this with a back to basic approach: small, ultra light, and ultra powerful." Get off the internet, you are the type of person that hears one thing and tells everyone about it rather than telling them the whole story. You sound like most US news stations.

[@Caluma122]

Also the Wankel motor is old technology.

[@buzzbuzz3254]

imagine picking a xjs over any of these two legendary cars lmfao

[@danny1ft1]

In fact you know what the RX7 FD makes me sad, RX's have always looked great and you look at the RX8 and the new concepts for the RX9 it looks like they're losing the plot... They should revisit the FD.

[@gvg1303]

There is even an airbag as standard, times have changed

[@drivewaymarvels311]

never had or hear of the nice gt3000 expirience.. probably have better luck with a broken rx7

[@Devil_Dog_Ultra]

it has an air bag!

[@borutosabnik6773]

hihi

[@misamisatv]

Which of these 3 cars is the most reliable?

[@finnpeeters8307]

pleasure I think brilliant zjdeo respectively

[@camd1774]

He was still funny back in 1993