Thanks for the sun coral. It's my first coral. It shyly ate in the bag after acclimating and the polips came out when it got in the tank. Pretty cool I looked up sun coral for sale and when I seen that you had one that's where I went with to play it safe. It warms my heart. I thought you was white
@InfamousUber3 жыл бұрын
Than isnt wearing a suit!
@dusk19473 жыл бұрын
Thank you for highlighting this phase so well and explaining it, rather than minimizing or skipping it. Knowing this part is coming, setting expectations, and noting how to get past it is critical for new hobbyist's... That phase almost made me quite in defeat until I understood it was normal and expected.
@CoralReefkid3 жыл бұрын
I thought you said “sps dominant” This is a display refugium 😂;)
@Bendejo-lm8wo3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaahah OK that is pretty damn funny!!
@turbocpt13 жыл бұрын
More like a massive algae scrubber.
@EazyP_Z2 жыл бұрын
It's so refreshing to see this and understand that every epic SPS show-tank had their trials. Gives the hobbyist a sense of: "I'm not a failure, I just have work to do."
@JaYoeNation3 жыл бұрын
In-tank algae filter... nice.. i have had a couple of those.
@vitantursic43283 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a common issue :)
@harkinsaquatics3 жыл бұрын
That's gnarly. Alot of bound up nutrients in that rock. So this is basically your refugium
@mellissabluxury2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was going nuts trying to figure out what was powering the algae growth in my 5 month old nano that I scaped with dry rock. I was trying frequent large water changes and rowaphos, hermits and snails. I also scrubbed with a toothbrush constantly. My water was showing no detectable pollutants and I was at my wits end, although my fish, softies and lps were all happy chappies 😄 This was a lightbulb video for me. Mellissa from Australia.
@DavidE-tj4rc3 жыл бұрын
Makes a novice like myself feel better seeing more advanced aquarists like yourself stumble. I am sure it'll be great looking after it ugly phase!
@softaco30882 жыл бұрын
Nice to see an honest video. A lot of the big youtubers in the hobby fail to mention this stage which is almost impossible to miss. Bank on week 3-5 to start seeing diatoms and blooms.
@burtminshew48123 жыл бұрын
I am dying!!!! 😂😂😂😂 Shrek and that hair algae forest. 😂😂😂 Holy Heavens to Mergatroid!
@terrimccullough7243 жыл бұрын
I have a wrasse that has jumped out of the tank 3X! The tank has a lid but it's always when I'm cleaning or adding to the tank. He is one lucky SOB. Last time he landed behind the tank and was barely within reach. I swear he has a death wish. He is stunningly beautiful though. As always I enjoyed the video and the calming of your voice.
@retroreefs79863 жыл бұрын
This is way beyond a “super ugly stage”
@thebreakingwinddialoguessh78013 жыл бұрын
I like to wear a tuxedo whenever I talk aquarium.
@andrew57623 жыл бұрын
Many thanks it’s great how you show us you getting in wrong like ourselves 👍😉🏴
@floatedits4433 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail... *eyes water*' It's... beautiful...
@invincibleants213 жыл бұрын
You need a sea hair for all that green hair algae they work great in my tank.
@petert20413 жыл бұрын
Damn. I have to say Than has taste in style.
@ateshhastam3 жыл бұрын
This is magnificent. I love the videos you post on your site for the specimens you make available, but also for general knowledge. As of yesterday, I'm now also a first-time customer. Cheers!
@tidalgardens3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@brycecarpen12243 жыл бұрын
Than is a rare type of reefer to share downfalls along with high lights. My new dry rock tank is going though the same thing
@turbocpt13 жыл бұрын
You have used your lights often then? Switch them off and get a cleanup crew. Electric blue hermit crabs and snails as well as lawnmower blennies if you can find them.
@DeeFromBrooklyn3 жыл бұрын
Algae.. fighting the good fight🐠🐠🐠
@johnkidd39753 жыл бұрын
Thane, I think this is my new favorite update. Loved the personal story about the fox face. There were several things I had not thought about. The point about the older hair algae and how the fish would not clean it up and that it would need to be removed so the fish could clean up the new growth. When I went through the ugly stage I had the opinion that if I had added a tang it would solve my hair algae problem, I could not get a tang and I have since come out the other side of the uglys. It was also eye opening when you mentioned that e v e n w i t h 2000+ gallons in the system that the nutrients bound in the rock were fueling the growth. This was my problem when I got into the hobby last February, old dead rock from a shut down system, that sat outside for a year, and that I did not clean/bleach or cure. At the time I was ignorant, I still am just not about everything in the hobby. Tons to learn, and it sure is fun.
@afyounie3 жыл бұрын
I've only ever used dry rock to setup tanks and every time I get the mass amount of bryopsis/hair algae. I don't do too much about it. I introduce snails/hermits after cycling, but they don't do much to the long stuff. Always takes about 3 months for the algae to subside. The way I see it, algae is the base of the food chain and helps to begin building the micro fauna of the aquarium.
@eddyortiz81103 жыл бұрын
Fish are spectacular! 💜🐠🐟🐠
@turbocpt13 жыл бұрын
Those rocks were leaching phosphates. The algae consumes the phosphates before it can be detected in the water. Some lawnmower blennies and a shit load of electric blue leg hermits and a few weeks would have sorted it out nicely.. also, some lights out as well.
@johncondoleobat3 жыл бұрын
That’s going to be a cool show tank !🦐🐟🐟🐟🐟🦀🐠🐠🐠🐠
@joshua9693 жыл бұрын
Time to roll up those sleeves and get plucking...lol.
@stonefarmer30053 жыл бұрын
It looks like my tank when I used Pukani!!! It took me forever to get that ugly phase behind me. Keep up the great info.
@ericbregant70173 жыл бұрын
I can attest to this. I have had a tank going for almost 1.5 years that started with dry rock. Recently I took a rock out to hammer in half to make some space and it was almost like the inside of the rock was dry. Hair algae started right back up. Would be a cool test to see how long dry rock takes to become 100% saturated all the way thru...
@turbocpt13 жыл бұрын
Never :). As the water cannot seep all the way into a man made rock and many other natural dry rock. So once you smash the rock, even if it was in the tank for years will it leach phosphates. It is the same with sand. Beaches are full of sand that contains silica yes no funny business when you place it an your tank and that sand has been there for thousands of years. Some play sand is made of ground up sea sand or rocks from mines. Put playsand in your tank and silica will cause algae on the sandbed simply because the sand or rocks it was made of were broken up and exposed the silica.
@Bamacher593 жыл бұрын
Today is my birthday and I’m starting up a reef tank, And I live in Akron and I will be getting corals from you sooner or later thanks for posting
@RogueAquariums3 жыл бұрын
Good job Than on getting a foot hold on the algae. Having an army of tangs and CUC sure helps.
@lisafoster4468 Жыл бұрын
You should check out BRS's series of Investigates on the Ugly Phase. Extremely interesting. From what I understand, a healthy copepod population is a really big help.
@tidalgardens Жыл бұрын
Microfauna makes a big difference.
@adammm89643 жыл бұрын
Tidal gardens going for the planted reef, honestly this with mangroves would be absolutely insane and beautiful
@marineecolife2781 Жыл бұрын
I find this funny, as I am a beginner in the hobby and want to dip my feet in slowly from freshwater by doing a FOWLR and a refugium, but a the flow and look of the coating that algae shows could be a decoration in itself.
@andersonsotomayor1364 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know everybody talks about an ugly stage, and I’ve never been through one knock on wood
@tyleryoon1953 жыл бұрын
That’s a nice carpet
@shawnriv93 жыл бұрын
Would you have been better off not running lights for a while? What about a UV sterilizer?
@benmiles30923 жыл бұрын
best to run lights how you would when you add corals otherwise when you ramp up the lighting after adding coral you will get the big algae bloom
@Stripedincolour3 жыл бұрын
Mmm dont agree Ben, I always phase mine in at 50 percent and add 5 percent every 30 days till lights are at full, 10 months and you midigate alot of the first year issues, my sps and everything are still extremely happy, they where added straight after cycle not growing off the charts but neither is algae issues 👍
@benmiles30923 жыл бұрын
@@Stripedincolour thats a better plan
@BC-fy1wn3 жыл бұрын
Than et all,you could add some reef safe urchins and a Sea Hare.Dont forget to include some bumblebee snails for some extra buzz to the tank and destroy pest snails and mine eat red cyano.I think it is cyano,I am not at the lab and my olde microscope bit the dust. Happy reefing and why does the little mermaid wear seashells? Doc BC
@adamkwek58883 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see your sps show tank ....🤩
@Utubereefer3 жыл бұрын
That’s a nice refugium
@TheXterra53 жыл бұрын
I’d just get a sea hare, that’ll 100% keep you from having to put your hands in the tank. Guaranteed! Nonetheless, awesome video, awesome tank.
@nikevx Жыл бұрын
Love your content keep it up!
@littlemamey3 жыл бұрын
Damn Than, you’re spoiling us with all these videos. Love it 😁
@Siggyy883 жыл бұрын
wow i think i found my new favorite suit
@akvasvet3 жыл бұрын
👍
@jahsreef83863 жыл бұрын
Love the update and more frequent videos lately
@elitistseeker12583 жыл бұрын
It's the big rock candy mountain for herbivores, those fish must be in heaven
@SaltFishTV3 жыл бұрын
Oof gotta love the ugly phase! 😬 My tank went through a couple ugly phases until I started seeing the rock mature a bit (going on two months now). After the first one I was like cool that was fast and then bam round two 😂. I have been keeping it in check with my snail army 🐌💪🏻. Gotta love snails!
@jcgarcia.44743 жыл бұрын
The Becca scene totally killed me 😂😂😂
@OfficialBritta3 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping Than would be dressed as Shrek for the whole video.
@aquaticnstuff76663 жыл бұрын
that's what my tank looks like
@Cgraseck3 жыл бұрын
"In tank algal filter" Hey! I've got one of those!😀🤨😖 Cheers, Chris
@brycecarpen12243 жыл бұрын
Rebecca! your so prettyy!!!
@brycecarpen12243 жыл бұрын
Idk the other girl but she is so pretty too!
@csabavarga827310 ай бұрын
The lip sync was great!
@taylor4tails3 жыл бұрын
"We've added 7 yellow tangs" What a flex hahahah ;)
@InappropriateReefer3 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is on point! 🤢🔥
@TheGabrielberki3 жыл бұрын
Coming this Halloween 🎃 The Scariest Tank you’ve ever witnessed!!
@elmee963 жыл бұрын
If it was green it would have looked awesome 😂🌱
@johnreefervermont48743 жыл бұрын
OMG. I could not click fast enough here. You are always so sharp looking that seeing you not perfect nearly put me in orbit :)
@steriskyline44703 жыл бұрын
Damn my foxface and tang (spike+fin) love the long stuff! I purposely buy infested rock like that from people cheap just to pop in their tank for them! They love it. Probably a two in a million pair.
@Omnicurious3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why new reefers struggle and older reefers sometimes think they have it all figured out and give bad advice about blackouts, reducing feeding, etc. If you start with dry rock your tank will be nasty for a while, especially if it's a natural dry rock like Pukani. I'm planning a new tank and I intend to use mature live rock wither aquacultured in the ocean or rock that's been in someone's tank for at least a year.
@glenbuyer87383 жыл бұрын
I think this display has volunteered itself as a refugium
@joshgray1331 Жыл бұрын
nice suit
@Willyoustandintheend Жыл бұрын
What do you think of BRS idea on adding copepods as part of the end of the cycle set up
@MrDon9673 жыл бұрын
how is it still in the ugly phase in over an year? looks like you're treating it for like a refugium that's why it's the only tank with algae my reef still hasn't had any blooms or algae so far used dry rock
@christopherstaricha86203 жыл бұрын
You just did a video about quarantining fish, but I haven't heard about quarantining inverts. Would love to see a video about the process on that if it is any different than quarantining fish.
@jamesgreen93723 жыл бұрын
I do not mind the "ugly phase." To me it is just an interesting season and indication that the tank journey is on. That said, I am pretty "laid back" and rarely in a rush. Some novice questions: a. Does this prove a surplus of food limits aggression? b. Do the rocks that a higher than the frag tank act a sight barriers to limit aggression? c. Could one seed the rock with coraline algae to shorten this phase? Thanks for sharing the "ugly" side, Jim
@enzomontini7583 жыл бұрын
My man just drops 1000 snails 🐌 in a tank 🤯
@KreefAquariumhobby3 жыл бұрын
The fish look small in that tank haha. Lucky foxface! I moved a while ago.. because I am setting up a new tank I kept my fish in temporary systems and in the fragtanks.. my 4 year old yellow tang jumped.. but I was to late when I found him.. 🥺 after that in an other system I lost 20 fish from brook.. I am never going to move again.
@tidalgardens3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@Blee483 жыл бұрын
the 500 dollar yellow tangs
@garydavidson39383 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you avoided Tangocide.
@b1ink5863 жыл бұрын
another great video guys! can you do a video on how to quarantine snails? is it the same process as fish? thanks again! GO JEN!
@benbutler38833 жыл бұрын
You can see the algae in the yellow tang’s stomach😂😂😂
@StudioGhibletz3 жыл бұрын
my blennies belly buldged during the ugly phase of my tank
@billgorsey80103 жыл бұрын
I mean... I still love it lol
@TheBobby4163 жыл бұрын
why not quarantine your live 🎸 rock. 3 months or so. A.K.A cooking. In a dark place. With water charges and stuff
@josephcruz29502 жыл бұрын
Yeah mine was bad I just kept pulling it and letting get over grown and pulling finnaly settles out
@thilog58743 жыл бұрын
The greatest myth of reef keeping. Cycling the tank. Start asap with as much corals as possible. Using sea water helps. What do you want to grow? Algaes or corals.
@turbocpt13 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Cycling a tank is not needed for corals, but is needed for fish. Only experts can start addinh corals and have success on day one. Ph swings, alkalinity etc is difficult to manage for your beginners, even novice reefers will keep believing in full cycle. In instances like these, too much phosphates are leached from those rocks. It would have been there corals or not. The corals cannot take up all those nutrients from the rocks. From the water column yes, but not the rocks.
@rayzorhead3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tidal Garden, I have a water box Cube 20 and is a new tank with three fish and three corals in there with rock and sands... I’ve finally reached my UGLY phase (early stages) ..... anything I can do to get rid of diatoms easily?
@stevemunn3673 жыл бұрын
Another great video Than, I have watched this before like I have with many of your videos, I do have a couple of questions, is it safe to keep lots of Fox face together? And do you think cleaner shrimp would be easy to breed if given their own tank? Thanks in advance 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@OmniversalInsect Жыл бұрын
Which snails did you use?
@cmoore8063 жыл бұрын
the Chewbacca tank!
@larz466723 жыл бұрын
Can we get another video about your quarantine process for those snails?
@StNovaSt3 жыл бұрын
Hey Than. When are we gonna see mom and dad together in a video? Guessing itll be like an Episode of GQ magazine. 😏
@NathansReef3 жыл бұрын
So, is there SPS in the tank now?
@burtminshew48123 жыл бұрын
Do a 5 day blackout and lower your nutrients. LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣 to bad no body needs to purchase some hair algae. Ya never know 🤔
@insanity42243 жыл бұрын
It’s weird cos I used mostly dry rock in my XXL750 and never had an algae problem even though my nitrates were 5+ and phosphates ~.2 for about 6 months with NO algae eating animals. The only thing I can attribute this is to my fuge outcompeting.
@simplereef4854 Жыл бұрын
My Tangs and algae blenny will get rid of this in a few weeks.
@eillyacostandinides33443 жыл бұрын
Damnnnnnn
@FortheBudgies3 жыл бұрын
Kinda a lesson on why its better to use live rock and live sand
@cagive243 жыл бұрын
What size is this is tank? going to look amazing one's it starts to mature
@tidalgardens3 жыл бұрын
It’s 600 gallons give or take
@Arizona90013 жыл бұрын
Love the update videos. Ugly or not
@BL_Denni Жыл бұрын
were you guys dosing microbacter 7 ?
@shredhugow3 жыл бұрын
That s not hair algae as you said, those are chrysophytes. Treat then with Vibrant. And dose ever 2 weeks.
@STRRFR3 жыл бұрын
Is this a extended version of episode 2 👀😇
@michaelrandy87643 жыл бұрын
Looks like it might be lyngbya, not typical debersia or bryopisis. Its slightly toxic, so not much eats it. Best of luck
@Ravan_Caw3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@rosedonnapur3 жыл бұрын
Think I’m about to hit this stage
@TheBobby4163 жыл бұрын
Almost
@brandywine32353 жыл бұрын
HAHA got like 10k worth of yellow tangs in there now.
@MrBestshot333 жыл бұрын
Watch those rabbitfish. Could do damage to coral. Tang gangs are the way to go. Ill never do 1 or 2 in a tank again. At our shop we'll put 35 tangs in a 210 trough and they love it. They all school up with the various types sticking with each other within the big school.
@sunriseent Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you just cut the lights off completely?
@gjerre813 жыл бұрын
Does the copper band and the yellow tangs get along? I’ve heard there don’t get along very well
@tidalgardens3 жыл бұрын
In the past adding a copperband to a tank with yellow tangs did not go well. This copperband was there first and is doing ok.