Tien Shinhan vs Super Dodan Ray (Tao)

[@jonathankent1517]

In case anyone is wondering what happened. Tien stopped Tao's Super Dodon Ray (Super Dodonpa) by using a technique called the "Kiai Extinguisher" (Kiai Keshi, "Keshi" means "to erase/extinguish something"). You know those invisible blasts some of the characters use that hit enemies kinda like a shock wave? Those are called "Kiai" (a term for a martial arts yell like "Hyah!", hence the yelling) and Tien fired one to disperse the Super Dodon Ray. The blast from the Tri-Beam (Kikoho, "Qigong Cannon") is also considered a kiai since you can't actually see the blast. Basically kiais are Tien's speciality.

[@michaelzaiser8088]

Thank you for the explanation.

[@mistresskixen6142]

@@michaelzaiser8088 Goku later on used this attack when Nappa fired his best attack at him.

[@tf-ok]

Sound waves? Scientifically speaking

[@Thomas_Anders0n]

Similar to how Gohan blows away the cell juniors or how Goku blow away Jeice and Burter

[@boofis8953]

Goku does use this sometimes. Watch the Majin Vegeta fight you'll see something like that, similar to it.

[@MusaMansu]

Ah, man. This was back when Tien was badass as hell.

[@satoshikatsumoto9007]

Still is, Super is a testament to that.

[@haloghostman]

Satoshi Katsumoto he couldn’t even eliminate someone without getting a ring out

[@BlackBeWhite2k7]

@@haloghostman He got two eliminations in the ToP. One against the Preecho, and the second against a sniper who had gohan and Piccolo on the ropes for an entire episode.

[@revolrz22]

@@BlackBeWhite2k7 One against a no-name that Roshi was handling fine, and the other against a no-name who had already been neutralized. His little battle with the sniper character was a sham. He showed zero creativity in the usage of the clones, the position of the fighters moved several times between frames just to ensure that Tien would be knocked out, and the whole thing was retarded. Every appearance of Tien in Super has been underwhelming at best, and absolutely embarrassing at worst.

[@vessel__]

He still has his moments

[@Sercil00]

How to survive the super dodon ray unscathed: 1. yell at it

[@thehungryshrek9682]

Ty

[@itotallyagreewithyoubecaus8827]

Sercil just like jiren

[@bluedarkdarklin2552]

BAD SUPER DODON RAY. BAD. GO BACK TO YOUR ROOM.

[@KRISHAL.]

Bluedark Darklin Dodon ray: “crying noises” Me: look at what u have done

[@TheHulkbuster13]

If that's true its the most useless attack

[@trentoncrenshaw3315]

awesome characters like tien who never give up are overshadowed by saiyans. sigh

[@HouseMusicNinja]

This is why I like Dragon ball over Z and Super. Everyone had unique traits and strengths. Z and super is basically everyone running around like Kryptonians

[@Salvador-312]

Grandknight their not humans like in dragon ball. Z and super is an entire different anime it can’t be compared because everyone is on a new level. Yamcha and tien get overshadowed because they can’t keep up with an alien race of literal warriors.

[@JohnnyDominion]

@@Salvador-312 That is no excuse, whether they are retitled animea they are still based on a literary story and when integral characters are reduced to nothing more than page fodder it reflects poorly on the authors ability.

[@revious83]

He didn't give up and never stopped training! But he stopped competing with Goku and the other high powered guys.

[@MusaMansu]

@@revious83 He gave up, because he knew that he would never be able catch up with the Super Saiyans. I have a love/hate relationship with Z for this reason. On one hand, I watched Z first and I love a lot of the characters, moments and even development of characters like Vegeta and Piccolo in his relationship with Gohan. On the other hand, they left the humans and Piccolo in the dust, so they couldn’t realistically contribute in combat. The series would have been much stronger as a whole if it had stopped with Piccolo Jr., although it would have probably set back the spread of Dragon Ball and anime in general to North America.

[@usnairframer]

God damn, Tien was such a fucking badass. I'm so upset with his handling in Z and Super.

[@WinTheRace774]

+The101nega agreed they need to give him some attention too

[@UnifiedEntity]

There's only so much humans can do when there are literally beings made for battle.

[@fissilewhistle]

I like how he never stopped fighting, even though he was outclassed. He was the only non-human other than Piccolo that actually did shit after the Saiyan Saga.

[@WinTheRace774]

KamektheMagikoopa1 exactly even in the buu saga he hasn't giving up. he should take advantage of the gravity room or the hyperbolic time chamber and buff up more so he can have his moment in super.

[@bigmaneastside]

HE'S BACK IN SUPER STRONG AS EVER

[@LoneWolf7007]

This is easily Tiens best moment in Dragonball!

[@Salvador-312]

LoneWolf7007 dbz is him pushing cell into the ground

[@desshiwaza4065]

Sonny shows you how much of a *PUSH* his attack has.

[@jayglizzyxgaming8812]

FelixFerris III what about him beating up kid Goku?

[@smickothesmickest]

DBS his best moment is... Wait what was it?

[@aidenfrost10]

No? His best moment was either beating Goku or the Neo Tribeam against Cell (even though it didn't do much)

[@Kruegernator123]

This entire arc had awesome animation. The 23rd Budokai is easily one of my favorite moments in the entire series.

[@mjkhan9664]

This was the moment we all thought that Tien was gonna be this Powerhouse character, and then DBZ happened and EVERYONE got sidelined to Saiyan hype and BS power scaling

[@UnifiedEntity]

Gotta love Tiens voice actor

[@theelike4302]

Real shame how badly he phoned in this scene for the Kakarot dlc tho.

[@sinfulkivisian20]

Interesting note: Tien's voice actor also voiced Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho

[@stephanos6128]

​@@theelike4302unfortunately direction and conditions for anime dubs just got worse over the years imo, leads to stuff like that

[@ΦιλήσυχοςΠολίτης]

@@stephanos6128 When you remove talent from the industry, like Vic Mignogna in favour of DEI failures, that is what's gona happen.

[@stephanos6128]

@@ΦιλήσυχοςΠολίτης buddy trust me English dubbing was on the decline before the Vic shit

[@wetnapkinz]

Such a shame that they don't show Tien any attention any more :/

[@shrekhasfatcake3084]

They might with the DBS saga that comes around in February, he is one of the showcase characters along with Gohan and Android 17

[@WindAxel0]

ShrekHasEbola Ha

[@2BuckFridays]

ShrekHasEbola Sigh, I wish that was true. That saga sucked fucking ass.

[@selveneleven]

TwoBuckFridays it didn’t

[@jayglizzyxgaming8812]

Selven Eleven for tien it did

[@NobleBruv]

Tien has the most intense voice!

[@TheScribeScribe]

1:10 I see Tien has been training with The Dovahkiin.

[@superpixelknight4706]

Relaxing At Home wun da nik

[@wulftheghost]

LOL

[@thenoobtuber4331]

Tao is such an underrated and misused character he was truly the og villain

[@rodimusunicronus2089]

The NoobTuber yup he was also one of the first few villian to defeat goku (even though back then he was just a kid) he is also smart enough went to flee a fight (like that time when he meet Gohan)

[@Kruegernator123]

@@rodimusunicronus2089 Tien only won against Goku due to a technicality in the 22nd Budokai. He even admits this to Goku, as he narrowly was able to best him in technique.

[@rodimusunicronus2089]

@@Kruegernator123 I was referring to General tao

[@jackcarraway4707]

Tao was DB's first supervillain and his introduction started a more dark and edgy turn for the series.

[@Bigfitz2]

I know this a old comment but how was he misused or even underrated for that matter

[@wreday720]

0:17 - I never forgot this line the moment I first heard it. Just the way he says it, Tien was on another level

[@admiralbishop3022]

This is one of the best ki counters I've ever seen

[@jamesevans1897]

Fan Fact: This is the only hit Tien did in this whole fight.

[@davidhatcher7016]

Thomad 90 yes

[@edwardgaines6561]

Sith 90 Score!

[@Chugargonfan]

And broke his knife

[@loreinecoldspring1506]

1:07 Is anyone gonna talk about how goku is like man this is stupid tao you gotta do better than that you as weak as yamcha

[@chaydenkleinsorge5986]

@@loreinecoldspring1506 Yamaha is at current stronger

[@ItsSpecialHands]

This moment was so intense in Dragonball, given how insanely strong Tao was prior to his upgrade. Tien taking him out so easily was a big deal. On a side note, I really liked that they brought Tao back in filler in DBZ, though he wasn't very intimidating anymore haha

[@michaeldefeo1439]

I agree especially since he seemed to easily defeat Chiaotzui in the preliminary matches but then again Chiaotzui was always one if the weaker Z members

[@Necronaut]

Say what you want but Tien is the strongest human on the planet. Krillin has nothing on him.

[@FREE_WILL_DEFENDER]

This is fact

[@TheHulkbuster13]

Until Super I never had doubt that Tein was more powerful. When power levels were known for both Tein's was higher, he has better feats, and he was Goku's rival for a lot longer than Krillin.

[@johnwjones9174]

Tien is supposedly based on an enlightened human. He has reached the next step in human evolution, hence his third eye. So he is technically a different type of human than Krillin.

[@johnwjones9174]

Although that fact may have been retconned.

[@Bewarethegr00ve]

Their paths diverged when Krillin had his potential unlocked by Guru and fought against Frieza and his soldiers, but Tien died and trained with King Kai. Overall I'd probably give Krillin the edge in that situation, thus putting him over the top. Tien did have much better martial arts in Resurrection of F though. Actually as far as pure martial arts go, he's better than anyone. It's really hard to say.

[@MinusTheRogue]

tien hit tao so hard, his hair defied gravity🤔

[@songoku7595]

tao is a walking talking scouter. i feel like doing a vegeta(scouter) joke but there's already over 9000 of them.

[@johnathanwade2800]

Son Goku 9001 now

[@Lost_idiot223]

Tao: *fires super dodan ray at tien* *tien yells at it* The Dodan Ray: Understandable, have a good day

[@lugaidster]

He was easily my favorite character back then. I'm sad Toriyama dumbed down humans so much. DBS tien is but a shadow of his old self in terms of self respect. DB tien would've never given up on training and catching up to saiyans.

[@AxelsAndGears]

Me: "Is he gonna swat it away? Or just take the attack?" Tien: "Watch this." *Screams it away*

[@voices4dayz469]

2:04 "...and here we have Tao Pai Pai's maximum power bird call to signify the end of another great season of dragon ball."

[@matthewcleary4685]

Ah back when Tien was the 3rd or 4th stongest character in the show.

[@FaolanWasTaken]

there was a time whete he was the strongest.

[@dripgoku1174]

Ye. He was 3rd after me and then piccolo

[@dimitri4888]

​@@dripgoku1174He was the 4th or 5th. Kami was confirmed the 3rd strongest, and we don't know if he was stronger than Mr Popo.

[@Connor_Kirkpatrick]

@@dimitri4888 I’d say he was probably above Popo, given he was able to keep pace with weighted Goku

[@iRazenrak]

And thus began the tradition of yelling to get the desired results.

[@FREE_WILL_DEFENDER]

I love how launch holds it down for tien

[@Animeality]

1:10. Tao: Holy. Shit. Tien: The f'ck you gun do now?

[@VegarotFusion]

GO AHEAD. I'M NOT AFRAID!

[@AndrewRobbins3344]

Vegarot Fusion *people starting to run and scream* Master Roshi: NO, DON’T!

[@bossshun9]

Tien was a beast back in DB. He made his old master look easy. To top it off, he yells at his signature move.

[@fordguyforlife18]

I wish his fight with Nappa was like this one that would be so epic lol

[@GLEclipseGaming]

Tiens yell at the Dodon pa was so badass.

[@TerraverseCo]

Tien is Dragonborn.

[@Fraggr92]

Good thing Tien studied with the Graybeards before the torunament.

[@travispeterson9683]

Bulma could make a better cyborg. They never used her to her full potential...

[@AndrewAce.]

Tru

[@CHADCONTEXT]

2:04 the way Tien runs at Tao cracks me up

[@twikki9071]

Becoming a cyborg apparently made Tao lose his cool and become a rambling idiot aswell, his earlier appearances made him at least interesting and menacing :|

[@edra3118]

Remember when Tao killed general blue with just his tounge

[@deondrerichards4619]

Yep

[@DecadeTheKarateBugman]

Tien tanks a Dodon Ray simply out of sheer rage.

[@revious83]

While i love DBZ, looking back at Dragon ball made me realize that DBZ has a very thin story, it's all ground shaking powerups and explosion and less Martial Arts and Spirituality. DB has a Star Wars OT Atmosphere. But atleast DBZ action is more meaningful than the SW prequel action.

[@sterlngbrookins528]

U right bruh 😂

[@chrisshrader3404]

and I thought the Haaaaaaaaaaaah only worked on Kamehameha based attacks lol

[@TylerCharlesFisher]

Well now you know better.

[@alexbrosaki7754]

Yes he knows better now

[@celldh0825]

He really scared away the beam by yelling at it 💀

[@itchyJaw]

Tien was slowly forgotten by the writer slowly fades in Z same goes with yamcha and specially Launch poor Launch never been remembered.

[@Saroku1000]

2:06 When I was younger, I thought Tien beat him by stepping on his foot, causing Tao so much pain that he lost his conciousness

[@adajoy215]

00:29 Launch: "If Tien stays, so do we" WHAAT??!? LMFAO

[@Alex-nv9bo]

that's how you tank a blast...

[@SailorLarkspur]

oh what i would do for some more justice for Tien

[@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002]

0:17 "GO AHEAD! I'M NOT AFRAID!" Nice one Tien lol.

[@NiftyChrono]

the original Dragon ball Badass

[@jacobhoffman7665]

One punch tien

[@Deacon_94official]

Tenshinhan was a Great warrior,One Punch Man is a looser 😡

[@chrono733]

Deacon94Official well i don't think saitama is loser but i think tiens going to win easily

[@MusaMansu]

@@Deacon_94official I love Tien, but Saitama is awesome too. His eyes look like Tiens third eye.

[@JazzyJames019]

why doesnt any1 have the full fight on youtube?

[@jakd2962]

I love how Tein just tanks the Dodan ray. Epic!

[@tonymarino8]

Tien after punching Tao: Let this power activate you....err nvm you're out. Vegeta: That's my line baldy!!!

[@JakeSmith-rv1hm]

1:07 Glimpse of SSJ Goku

[@MsNick991]

1:31 Nobody ... Vegeta: NANI?!

[@ernie9353]

2:04 BRUTALITY

[@RZ-yk2se]

Then he became fodder during the piccolo saga and never recoverred lol

[@Animanimate]

So, if I glued a gun to my hand, could I use it in the martial arts tournament? Do I have to yell out some sort of attack name before I pull the trigger?

[@willow7610]

Yes and yes

[@maximussaktish]

Not really since at this point tao pai pai was already disqualified for using a knive that was glued to his arm

[@Apparentnoob]

good work keep it up in the new series

[@ITheLoZKingI]

Tien used Hyper Voice! It's super effective!

[@MasterChef1957]

Tien really stoped a super dodon ray with a fucking karate yell, if only he was given this sorta love in super

[@austinh3848]

Tien should've tri-beamed the fuck out of Tao when he fell to the ground.

[@yaboigamerdouji7573]

This man just yelled a Super Dodonpa out of existence. Also I think this is the reason DB characters yell when powering up. Sound barrier that blocks shots like this

[@darrylwallace2428]

That was so sick!

[@DatGunitKilla]

make up your mind, Tao.. first "not so arrogant now, are you?", then just a few seconds later "you act tough".. lol

[@ahaha8]

Impressive taking into consideration how strong Tao is - when he knocked that big indian up into the air and held his spear tip with two fingers and he could not move it anymore....

[@BluezStarz763]

Back when Tien and the rest of the guys were strong as fuck and badass as fuck

[@FroggypondVideos]

This is when I liked tien the most

[@RhodieSlayer]

he saved gohan

[@TheLastLivinGameCube]

Which episode is this from?

[@Fin0fLenster]

Episode 136

[@josephjackson1956]

I can’t believe they left Tien’s scar on his chest

[@dsullivanation]

Tien's scream in this is more badass than when the Saiyan's scream.

[@itzbobby4311]

Wow he ate the Ray

[@airraverstaz]

I hate how strong Goku got in Dragonball. Not that I don't like seeing the main character win, but I liked it better when the others atleast had a chance and weren't THAT far behind. I guess the same can be said for Bleach, Naruto and some others aswell.

[@phoenixwing50]

airraverstaz That got much worse in DBZ and then even worse in DB Super.

[@UnifiedEntity]

The101nega They made Tien lose to fucking Roshi. And everyone has lost their own bad ass factor.

[@ComradeVissarionovic]

In other similar stories with way overpowered protagonists (such as the Saiyans) they often have subplots where less powerful characters, such as Tien, could still have the chance to do interesting stuff. While Goku and co. are tied up fighting some god or other, some of the weaker human characters can complete some other quest that would allow them to showcase their skills and character, instead just relying on the "Super Saiyan level x" Deus ex machina in order to defeat every bad guy.

[@nh7226]

Ummm, this same scene played out except with Goku.. Hmm?

[@ΙωάννηςΛαλιώτης]

You gott give to Tien,every bit of respect he had for Tao faded whrn he used the blade to scar him.He was like i'm not gonna kill you,but i won't tolerate your disrespect and bad behavior any more.

[@GG64]

He blocked the super dodon ray by screaming at it. Too bad this was one of the last times Tien ever was useful until the Cell saga

[@Jotari]

Launch is a good friend.

[@josecampos4823]

OGPM-One gut punch man

[@jeffnavarro2563]

Launch and Tien not having bebes makes me want Chao Tzu to be their lovechild. DAMMIT SUPER....I THOUGHT THEY HAD A CHANCE AFTER CELL!!!

[@VanquishDBS94]

2:06 Tao looks like Jar Jar Binks

[@heyheyhe0011]

All this I understand power level under 1000

[@enderboy6491]

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[@Hi_hs]

How he knew king kai never told him

[@hkn9723]

00:01 scouters before they were cool

[@Peter7DA]

Tien fucking yelled at the beam and it went away, Toriyama you could've gave this man God ki or some shit but no you threw him to the way side ffs

[@Marioguy92]

The coolest and best way to dissipate a blast; Shout it away! 😮😎

[@virtualdark2295]

Tien should have given a punch like that to Shen before leaving.

[@joejunior5991]

One of few Tien Badass Moment 👍

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Super Dodon-Pain.

[@micklemackle207]

Apparently Tien forgot he could do this in Dragonball Z as he would go on to job fo Naapa.

[@syedsaadjameel4]

Tien getting sidelined in DBZ caused Launch to vanish from the series. Sad. But there was potential u know...

[@atcera8714]

How the mighty have fallen, Toriyama hates him

[@riveraharper8166]

Probably the last intimidating 'Earth human' attack against the Z warriors.

[@Smgluigi]

2:05

[@bigsolo6952]

Tao had a scouter lowkey

[@hisdudeness8328]

Tien moves too fast, but I’m pretty sure he hit Tao in the ball bearings.

[@grantdong7746]

Dang, tao can really open his mouth wide.

[@SSJ_Peter]

Tien just ate that like it was nothin.

[@gabrieliligan1416]

I felt bad for tien in DBS, they shouldn't have nerfed him!!!

[@DarkerWorlds]

Super Dodon Ray! so cool, but isn't using weapons illegal? this is not a ordinary energy ray

[@Hoagie2310]

Technically the super dodon ray is ki. It's not a weapon. It just comes out of his robot body instead.

[@Vapor817]

He also used a knife but by then he had threatened to kill the announcer if he was declared lost.