Jackie Chun versus Tienshinhan

[@rashadd2615]

Why everyone keeps saying Master Roshi when it's clearly Jackie Chun?

[@pees_in_ur_ass]

I’m unsure if you don’t know that they’re the same guy or that you just want to call him Jackie Chun cause it’s DB

[@sakeriyasaleh4820]

@@pees_in_ur_ass it's like sniper king and ussop are not the same. That person is Jackie chun

[@landonletterman831]

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen them in the same room together..... You may just be on to something!

[@pees_in_ur_ass]

@MPDeity Read my reply again but slower

[@pees_in_ur_ass]

@MPDeity Then why'd you woosh it if you didnt read it?

[@SeanDaNerd]

Tien’s path to the Finals was difficult. He faces Yamcha, Roshi, then Goku? Those are some tough matchups. Respect.

[@rdu239]

Tien beaten Goku in the finals

[@zeaferjones1404]

Yeah all 3 of those fights were tough. You could argue that Yamcha hurt him the most when Yamcha said he didn't speak pain.

[@zeaferjones1404]

@Sun Wu-Entai 90 That is true Piccolo vs Krillin was one of my favorite fights of the series. Also Kami and Piccolo were pretty even. I always wondered how that fight would have played out of Kami didn't try the evil containment jar.

[@Grandmaster_Sub-Zero]

Yamcha wasn't even a challenge for Tien. Tien was toying with him most of the match. As soon as Tien got serious, he obliterated Yamcha easily.

[@cesarg4328]

@Jerry Smith Yes it was, I just watched the fight. Yamcha got rekt, it wasn´t even fair. Tien recieved the full impact of Yamcha´s kame hame ha like it was nothing. I think it was the first time we saw someone doing that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/haeZoKOpm7yon6s From 4:13

[@Snakumaru]

Master roshi using a smurf account back when smurfing wasn't really a thing

[@Luke973T]

Snake47 lmao

[@ChaddyFantome]

Basically, lol.

[@queefwellington4411]

MASTER SMURFI

[@x3n068]

What do you mean "when smurfing wasn't really a thing"? You say that like it existed, but it was unpopular. It didn't exist at ALL, this is from the 80s.

[@MrEvilTag]

Smurfing?

[@MonolithBrookshadow]

I actually miss when martial arts mattered.

[@kaymeachem1619]

Monolith Gaming ik and skill and technique actually played a role.

[@MonolithBrookshadow]

good times those were

[@Nestorglass]

I think their point is how it was more "realistic" than now. But hey, it's dragon ball, it escalates all the time, would make 0 sense to go back. They're among gods now, no just martial artists.

[@everetthayes2677]

Dragon ball and dragon ball z are completely different series. Take it or leave it.

[@shparto1118]

Yeah, boys, you tell him! *You're not allowed to miss anything*

[@dimebagdarrell7735]

When roshi was one of the toughest around.

[@ryanblack3686]

Dimebag Darrell watch the last episode of dbs

[@dimebagdarrell7735]

Ryan Black ik ive seen. The creators are fucking dumb. Roshi is a man or fighter of many techniques.

[@NSFSponsor]

Ryan Black When Tien was THE Toughest.

[@MrBassem95]

Dimebag Darrell he still is

[@VashtheStampede007]

Still one of the top 12 fighters on earth.

[@worthlessfools1]

What I love the most about this, is how Roshi willingly gives up and just walks off the ring, completely shattering Tien. That was the first big move that led to Tien abandoning the ruthless ways of the Crane school.

[@jubjubbird56]

You mean Jackie Chun

[@mrtrollnator123]

​@@jubjubbird56he's roshi

[@jubjubbird56]

@@mrtrollnator123 no way! He looks totally different and has a different name! Besides, roshi is totally bald!

[@mrtrollnator123]

@@jubjubbird56 he superglued the hair to his head and look at his eyes they're the same also THE MFING NARRATOR TELLS YOU THAT HES ROSHI U DEAF

[@asinatrafanatic2697]

​@@jubjubbird56Plus, Jackie Chun isn't nearly as handsome as Roshi!

[@emperorchicken1894]

Watching Tien's fighting style here, you can see he was overwhelmed with hatred for some reason back then. He is and will be one of my favorite characters of all time.

[@MrVariant]

Sure his atonement for the guy whose leg he broke to only ask for the dragon ball was character development.

[@xnortheast1106]

@@MrVariant a

[@ananddarnal6702]

Yaas 🙌

[@brantleyfoster021]

It's due to his Master's training. The Crane hermit was a loser, he trained Mercenary Tao. To be a merciless killer that thrives on breaking people, literally. Master Roshi was actually much stronger than Tien here, even Tien knew Roshi held back his full power; but Roshi thought Tien would change if he held back his full power & let him win.

[@randallflagg3700]

@@brantleyfoster021 - That's is simply not true. After the fight, Roshi and Tien had a talk, and at first Tien assumed that Roshi gave up because he had seen for himself that none of his student could beat Tien. Roshi then calls him a fool, and tells him that he gave up because he realized that none of his students would get a big ego just from winning that tournament, and that he was worried for nothing. And then, while he was leaving, Roshi said *"but you're right about one thing, had we kept fighting, I would have lost."* Tien then thinks to himself "he admitted defeat? No dignity..."

[@Sai4651]

This Jackie Chun was a real power house, damn shame we never saw him again after this tounrament

[@Joker-ru7zl]

He would have one shot Jiren in the tournament of power

[@jantheking7028]

@@Joker-ru7zl Neither are touching monaka. Monaka one shotted Hit, even Jiren couldnt do that

[@berandom2000]

Or maybe in the Cell Games where he can attempt to stop Cell.

[@maikayee246]

@@Joker-ru7zl Heck he would have been a WAY better choice than master roshi

[@poordolt6482]

another reason why i like dragon ball more than Z is you never know who is going to win the fight

[@SSJvegito501]

I think most people can figure out Tien is stronger than Master Roshi. Same for the next Tournament, Goku was going to beat his opponent and same for Picolo.

[@evaldasstrikeris2365]

But Goku lost to Tien and Roshi. And it was surprised

[@SSJvegito501]

Only 2 fights...and one of them Goku technically won his 1st fight against Tien, there just happen to be a 3rd party involved for plot reasons.

[@evaldasstrikeris2365]

No, he loss to Tien and Roshi in this tournament. And Goku had to be disqualified when he used his cloud in tournament. If You talking not about tournament so Goku lost a lot of times - he lost first time to Yamcha, Tao, King Piccolo, Raditz and ect.

[@SSJvegito501]

Evaldas Strikeris Woah man, chill out. It seems you like to initiate agressive arguments. I never said Goku has never lost a match. He's lost many times (some due to handicaps but others were fair) Anyway, that is why I said technically in Goku vs Tien, Goku did beat Tien in combat, but the truck helped Tien. However, I believe the original comment was not even about how many times Goku had won or loss.

[@aurumferris1016]

XD 1:21 roshi just lets this dude run up to him, do a front flip, and kick him in the face 30x lmao

[@randomselect645]

Scripted

[@robdias3773]

Vageta does it all the time. Lets opponent know you can take it

[@bigplanner]

Rob Dias name “all” those times.

[@heresy8384]

Roshi? That's obviously Jackie Chun.

[@dbelow_1556]

It's an arial feign into a high knee stunlock

[@jacobshelton1729]

Unpopular opinion, but this fight is SUPER underrated. Even with all the love it gets, it doesn't get all that it deserves IMO.

[@TenshinhanIsKing]

Wow you’re so brave for stating such and “unpopular” opinion 🤓

[@johnq8043]

This is one of the best fights in the franchise no doubt! Any true DB fan would agree.

[@nothingtoseehere9648]

@@TenshinhanIsKing Was gonna say, literally everyone in the community likes DB more than DBS lol Not that DBS is bad but DB was the OG and a lot of people believe DB fell off when Z ended

[@Xoilen]

@@TenshinhanIsKingnobody cares

[@TenshinhanIsKing]

@@Xoilen you care

[@Jomanro]

Notice that Goku was the ONLY one who didn't count out Tenshinhan at all even when Master Roshi did. This episode showed Goku's evolution from student to master.

[@psp785]

He fought Tien earlier before the tournament

[@saiyanfang1047]

@@psp785 filler

[@saiyanfang1047]

Roshi named Goku as a master before the training time skip

[@Tradetek1]

@@saiyanfang1047 it’s not filler it’s anime canon since goku tells yamcha krillin and Jackie chun that he encounter tien before and we even got the flashback of tien fighting goku in the canon episode when goku tells them what happened.

[@metal42]

​@@Tradetek1 if it's not in the Manga then it's not canon.

[@francisgoin3112]

For me, this character interaction (fight) is the most influential in the entire series. Roshi is a teacher to anyone who could learn.

[@K1ng1995]

I love Tien's English voice. It's so soothing and relaxing

[@WiredLain_]

i heard he is the english voice for kurama in yu yu hakusho as well. who has an amazingly soft voice.

[@arandomguyontheinternet9441]

It feels nostalgic and great to see that dragonball is still living after many years

[@JJskywalker]

1:21 when you play fighting games against new players and they spam the same button.

[@Cylix404]

Pretty much

[@realityhits3022]

Lol this comment is underrated.

[@yoloswaggins5385]

Made me laugh good point

[@Be.authentic_]

😂

[@JustAsh001]

Me in dragon Ball legends

[@Yomi2012]

A good example of raw talent vs experience

[@Slackrer]

Back when DB was mostly martial arts and less supercharged energy attacks with aliens and power levels

[@treatwomenright33]

And the fights could be more detailed. Like actually watching a martial arts fight.

[@christianmariano1071]

Fr

[@TheSurrealBoye]

I like how at the end they're both like "f*ck defenses, I'll just go for the offense now".

[@carnalcarnage4637]

I get what y'all are saying in the comments with the "back when so and so, power levels, martial arts" yadda yadda, but can we all just take a minute to appreciate how hard Roshi and Tien went in on eachother, martial arts or not? Like seriously, back and forth going for straight kill shots and then beating the absolute piss out of each other in a way that can only be described as the reason "slobberknocker" exists as a term. Good fuckin' shit, both characters.

[@Senor_Penor]

Couldn't have put it any better myself

[@darkphoenix00001]

true that being said, this was back when martial arts mattered and there wasn't so much power level creep.

[@justinvolg3856]

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[@RambunctiousReptilian]

This is why fights like this and Piccolo vs. Android 17 are some of my favorites, because eventually they ditch the fancy martial arts and just go to absolutely beating the shit out of each other.

[@johnq8043]

Never heard of the term slobberknocker lol

[@studiomaguyvertv3872]

for those who sleep on Tien need to know this isn't even the full fight...Tien mastered the kamehameha wave after seeing it once with his third eye. This is 1 of my favorite Dragonball fights all-time tho

[@skadrumsandwich7415]

The way they handled the end was genius and very respectful to Roshi. The plot demanded that Goku fought Tien in the final round but for that to happen Roshi had to "loose". I was very satisfied with the ending of this fight up in the air as Roshi stepped down and forfeited. Seeing Roshi loose by defeat would just seem....wrong. But this was perfect.

[@Perkyguy]

saying "kamehameha wave" is like saying "Bacon&eggs with eggs"

[@jigokunokishi917]

Brian Griffin lose* Dumbass!!

[@Flashfyre93]

@Sir Garde no in Japanese it means turtle destruction wave. Like kame school means it's the turtle hermit school

[@kman215]

@john gaynor not really

[@dwecktek]

1:07 so ironic everyone had there guard down except goku

[@jimbobob9273]

Do you know what ironic means?

[@pingaspearce9403]

@@jimbobob9273 he's correct it's ironic Since Goku never has his Guard up

[@ilyte1]

@@pingaspearce9403 precisely, Goku's major lifelong flaw is that he constantly underestimates his opponents cruelty and persistence to said cruelty. This causes him to lower his guard when he thinks the fight is in some form of intermission when in fact his foe is winding up for a cheap shot

[@bmonty1915]

I appreciate DB so much now that I am older. DBZ up to Freiza was amazing but watching DB just reminds you of how much great material just got left behind in DBZ.

[@maanmahmoud4537]

What? Left begind

[@NASTAR01]

I watched Dragon Ball years ago, but decided to start from the beginning whilst I let the dub of Dragon Ball Super build up episodes (embark on Goku's full journey). It's been great watching it again, and after just finishing this fight I'm reminded how cool these face offs where. Yamcha Vs Tien was also really intense. Dragon Ball's fights were generally more technical and what we get later on. I also forgot how much of a dick Tien and Chiaotzu was.

[@ajet0452]

back when martial arts mattered and not just having some high power lvl where you can withstand any attack

[@nanashi1173]

Fearless 512 Because having lightning fast hands and a strong tongue that can kill with pressure points is so damn real.

[@jakobteeter9740]

Fearless 512 martial arts matters in super for sure,if you saw goku vs caulifla he was able to beat on her for a while just using his skill and not raw power which is what she was relying on

[@jonatasnogueira7525]

Man since Tao Pai Pai power levels became a thing. This is older than you could remember

[@ThatMan6058]

Federal Bureau of Investigation haha no, super doesn't even care about martial arts. Just have a higher power level, spam punches ki blasts etc etc and then the character pretty much wins fight, no skill or barely any technique whatsoever.

[@rahulsar2030]

Federal Bureau of Investigation Mostly it was Power Level. If u notice carefully, LSS kale(controlled) and SS2 califra were certainly beating Goku SS2 until he went SSG and overpowered them. So basically Goku had to be of exact power level as those 2 so that he can keep up with them, even using transformation like SS he can increase his Speed, strength and endurance as well. So basically higher PL means u are more better. This was there in Z as well. Freeza, cell and kid buu had higher PL than Goku hence he had so much difficulty in defeating them. So that's why SS was invented becoz in Z, everything was on PL and speed. But don't get confused with ASS since it had a increase in PL but decrease in speed and mobility. So if u see DB had the same PL theory as well when piccolo was introduced.

[@heathers.7755]

"You know what? I was wrong. This got SO much dumber."

[@No_One_Important]

"Agreed. Sure is a lot of not killing Goku going on right now. You know what would fix that?"

[@MikuIsMine]

@@No_One_Important"Is it killing Goku?"

[@wreday720]

I assume you’re all talking about 1:37?

[@thebehemoth4951]

HA I got that reference

[@lazydelibird]

@@MikuIsMine A good old round of killing goku

[@vaultvon2126]

you really see the action. that's why DB is so great and classic

[@heath6825]

Why do we never see Jackie Chun again? He was so cool

[@candycheese3251]

Dragon Ball fights were way more vicious

[@Valientlink]

I love many moments from DBZ and Super but DB original is just so much more adventurous and full of wisdom.

[@Angyali]

("I've never encountered a fighter this agile and skillful! Whoever he is, he's a greater teacher than the Crane Hermit.") ("This kid's astonishing! He effortlessly takes and answers my attacks. This endurance-level is simply superhuman.")

[@amirulsuwazi2646]

When Master Roshi mean something and still relevant.

[@rileyfreeman3778]

Did you watch super

[@wilcowen6284]

@@rileyfreeman3778 this is like him going toe to toe with jiren its not really the same

[@brantleyfoster021]

@@wilcowen6284 Roshi was stronger than Tien here. But he didn't use his full power like Tien wanted, he confronted Roshi about it after Roshi lost to him on purpose & Roshi admitted he would've lost to him. Tien knew that he would've lost to Roshi though, if Roshi had've used all his power's.

[@wilcowen6284]

@@brantleyfoster021 no he wasnt

[@brantleyfoster021]

@@wilcowen6284 He was, he had already destroyed the Moon year's earlier & had trained extensively here. He didn't use his full power as Tien noted. Plus Tien lost to Roshi in DBS at full power. Roshi is the strongest human on Earth, well until Uub appeared.

[@kaymeachem1619]

Them muscles popping

[@benwilliams3539]

Back before you could just scream ''I gotta save my friiiiiieeeeends!" and your power level goes up.

[@watson-tv]

This is one hell of a great fight! The newer stuff doesn't have this same charm to it.

[@wilreed8478]

Awesomeness, keep up the great videos sir. l love all these fights

[@tonym5736]

I miss these types of tournaments with actual challenges that Goku and friends had to face not just each other

[@ilovekittieification]

Sooo what the TOP is?

[@Durahan13]

I think he means that this was just purely for proving one was great at MArtial arts and on a fairly tame level since it was earlier in the Dragonball Series. "Normal" people actually could waltz into a tournament and give Goku, Krillin, Roshi, etc. a run for their money. The fights were tense because usually you wouldn't know who would win when people like Tien showed up. The Tournament of Power has way too much at stake to just enjoy the fight for the fight. Its not simply a spectacle, but rather an all-out war to keep your own universe safe. Of course we all knew that 7 would win and that everything would go back to being just Peachy afterwards. It's much more predictable. And more about overpowered blasts being the norm rather than something special like the Kamehameha was back in Dragonball.

[@deathitself6985]

@Merciless Freak I enjoyed Super 17 Black Frieza Vegeta moments Goku moments Roshi hype asf.. I understand that Vegeta and Goku must become more powerful and face characters with overwhelming power themselves.. If not taking Super so seriously its really enjoyable as a fan of DB. To each their own

[@overratum]

@Merciless Freak if every fight in the ToP was mediocre to you except for UI Goku vs Jiren then I can't help but think you didn't watch the ToP or otherwise have really weird and inconsistent definitions for what constitutes a good fight.

[@Mani-jg9sf]

@Merciless Freak yep most fights were stupid just like you and your whole family

[@saw31489]

Dragoball just had a much better feel than the later series. Fantastic fights, great usage of its cast... it was amazing

[@mbontotsetrong6411]

After I saw that master Akira Toriyama had taken a photo with the kung fu legend "Jackie Chan" I finally felt nostalgic again and looked for the figure of Jackie Chun

[@ThatoneGuy-zd4rl]

Dude this whole tournament was crazy - it wasn’t all just about Goku like it all kind of is. Though Roshi vs Goku at the end was awesome

[@Connor_Kirkpatrick]

2:00 when you agree with your homie to not block

[@chriskoloski32]

Then tien gave up on his fancy moves and started repeatedly kneeing this man in the stomach

[@andrewsheridan612]

I love how their reaction times to each other's techniques are inversely proportional to the speed of their own attacks...

[@RambunctiousReptilian]

This and Piccolo vs. Android 17 are some of my favorite fights because after a while the martial arts are dropped and they just move to beating the absolute shit out of each other.

[@robertsides3626]

0:11 Sure, when HE does it, he looks like a martial arts God. When _I_ do it, I look like a spaz.

[@user-vs9ds3dc2y]

Yes.

[@josuefairy]

Indra

[@japarevoltado1779]

The time where fights are brutal,epic and nostalgic. The time where Dragonbal was awesome and very badass. I love so much this time!@!!

[@TheDoc_K]

Can we just appreciate that Roshi uses a 50% version of his MAX Power technique, that means he has complete control over how much power he's putting out at almost all times and I feel like that should be talked about and praised.

[@Flyingboots1]

You pulled that statistic right out of your fucking asshole shut the fuck up you bitch you don't know what the hell you're talking about!!

[@RealLifeRyan]

One of the best fights of the ENTIRE franchise.

[@ignanimepm4545]

I don't miss anything of this because i keep watching it. DB was the best.

[@forest086]

I have watch this episode this is master roshi..

[@bringit2099]

When they both kicked each other in the gut, kneel down and started rolling got me 😂😂😂😂

[@luiipasqual9765]

THIS FIGHT IS THE TRUE DEFINITION OF LEGENDARY

[@dagger1580]

Damn I forgot how brutal this fight was

[@songoku7595]

why does master roshi always say boo when he fights

[@jaidenlee9167]

Son Goku Cuz He Is Scared *LOL*

[@mrdewarion]

Because he actually is the real demon Buu. His essence is trapped in Roshi.

[@ghjkrsxcg]

No he says boob coz hes a pervo...🙎

[@brnguity]

I thought cuz he tried to b intimidating but hes is too goofy to do That 😂

[@ParadigmShiftInc]

Man that spend drop was so on point bro.

[@staxkingdom3553]

Now this right here is a true example of catching hands

[@vaultvon2126]

this was legendary fight

[@archangeltyrael3369]

This might be the last fight where martial arts matter in all of Dragonball. The rest of the series is either Goku or Piccolo physically overpowering people with their superior alien abilities and then in Z its all about who has more ki

[@mycole1990]

The way this show evolved is still crazy to me…

[@LJ808]

Ah, back in the days when every character in the show had great value to them and not just the usual like 4 or 5 (sometimes less).

[@leblanc3536]

Tien mattering? It’s been a long while

[@rodney1120]

Ah yes, the times where side characters could at least stand up to the main villain of the arc.

[@EmissaryOfSmeagol]

For an ancient old man, Roshi is sure badass when he focuses up.

[@OurAntwan]

Despite now goku being billions of times stronger, roshi will always be his master. Out of respect but mostly because you can always learn something out of these old codgers and turn to them for wisdom and moral guidance, thats what makes the OG dragonball so iconic

[@lordteapot9740]

roshi going easy on him so goku can have a rival and he can get back to chilling on his island lol. 0:50 is proof, tien really had no chance if roshi was serious.

[@ilyte1]

Roshi himself stated that Tien might have beaten him at full power

[@Terlin1466]

after watching dragonball you realize Z did a huge disservice to every character in dragonball and made the show... more lame in a way. Its really why the creator and others never seem to recreate Z because they miss dragonball it self not Z

[@sreddi83]

Watch Japan doesn't like Tien by Plague of Gripes

[@dunkienugg8792]

DB, when technique was key, attacks really hit home, and when martial arts were thought of over measuring peoples power kevels.

[@ShotgunLlama]

>Clowns on his opponent >Calls him misguided >Refuses to elaborate >Leaves

[@c.galindo9639]

Master Roshi just had to take his gi off to show he is serious lol It’s funny how it landed on Bulma too XD

[@OggaDugga]

It’s not Master Roshi. Clearly it’s Jackie Chun.

[@johnzearley9266]

Back when the characters were surprising and the battle was good and the days when krillin and goku were addorable

[@omkr0122]

Back in those days before Tien was known for his roasting skills!

[@psp785]

One of my favorite fights

[@kamui817]

Jackie chan (master roshi ) threw that jacket on bulma on purpose 😂😂 how many of u agree? 😂

[@WilliamHasMelted]

Remember when Tien was cool and a threat?

[@kogu2388]

People saying that martial arts isn’t a thing in super anymore, Whis mentioned in the TOP that goku has an advantage in his base against ssj2 caulifla because of his skills as an martial artists

[@StarxLolita]

no like old db used actual martial arts tropes n shit

[@Bloodletter8]

"Local Triclops Commits Elder Abuse"

[@RGVSeven]

0:43. "Tien use Fury swipe!"

[@irontomato3835]

Hit 0 times!

[@coolguy02536]

@@irontomato3835 Ay, just like in Mystery Dungeon.

[@RandomDude-bo1lg]

1:45 a real van Damme punch

[@bigbangtheory1185]

Not even one Ki Blast. Those things where rare back in the day, special stuff.

[@blazilfrazil2]

AYO TIEN GAVE THIS NIGGA 40 QUICK ASS KNEES YO IM CRYING LOOOOOL

[@calmsaltytoe9016]

the thing is that roshi didnt go full buff mode. This form doesnt affect his speed

[@Ishmaelgaynor]

Roshi was shocked

[@ThrillbertMusic]

absolutely slapping the shit out of each other here lol

[@0142Jason]

Back when power levels where bellow 100. Old times. Good times

[@ladariusezell2522]

When there was actual fighting in the db universe

[@foxsky4336]

Good young moment

[@ilyas_elouchihi]

This fight was fiiirrreeeee

[@ri0t872]

They need to bring back his 4 hands why didn’t they think of including that in the dragon ball fighterz🥲 so cool

[@rashuneknight3939]

Back when tien was a killer

[@FlyingMonkey208]

And look at Tien now... What a fall from grace.

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

At least he's not Yamcha

[@jhonnybatera]

|No tempo em que as lutas eram realmente interessantes.

[@kharnifex]

Love how he is just choking him

[@TehFuzzyCoconut]

it's okay I didn't want to see the end anyway

[@henry700]

Master Roshi was the 1st OG smurf.

[@miodziad5448]

Holy s***! This grandpa must be really strong!

[@claudiobaez3196]

Que lindos años con dragon ball una super pelea teng shin han vs m roshi me emosino al ver estas imagenes que recuerdos mas lindos

[@jrreedve2825]

I don’t know, how many tournaments have you won? I don’t know, how many planets have you blown up. None, how many Goku’s have you beaten?! Can I fight now?

[@SAsaiyajin]

Dragonball is so underrated compared to Z. This is all thanks to the Western audience of course😅.

[@paradoxzee6834]

As a kid I was one of few who liked the OG Dragonball more than Z.

[@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227]

I agree but I like z and dragonball equally. Z introduced stronger enemies, gohan's ssj2 transformation and future trunks ssj transformation. Man those were sad amd hit alot harder than their dads. But I wish it still had the dragonball essence and tien, piccolo, yamcha and krillin can come back to the fights instead of just hanging in the background. Same goes for gohan and trunks. Even goten. They were wasted and the spot light is always on vegeta and goku and that can be a problem.

[@dhay03]

It’s not really out fault. Dragon Ball had a few attempts first here in the US but because of the violent nature of the show and it’s sexual innuendo, it was heavily edited and place in crappy early morning time slots so it never took off and never went past the Emperor Pilaf saga at first. The same would hold true for Dragon Ball Z’s first run as well. It wasn’t until DBZ went to cable on Cartoon Network’s Toonami when it would finally take off. After the success of DBZ, then they went back to finish original DB. So we were always exposed way more to Z then original DB. Not by choice but how it turned out.

[@arunjames6494]

Sheesh what a battle

[@igoldenfreeza6687]

Man I wish we could've had Jackie Chun in the TOP with roshi. They would've been so cool together