Tier Unlock Cheese Strategies & Tips, including T15 W300 | The Tower

[@JPlays1]

As @linuslucke3838 greatly pointed out - another great card for cheese strategies is using the nuke card. For my t15 runs with 15 card slots, I couldn't really find a suitable place for it - but it can be a very solid card to help clear out a wave on a milestone run.

[@kaceydillin7367]

Thanks for your videos. Educational and informative. As a new player I really appreciate these types of videos. Enjoy your time away and see ya next year!

[@JPlays1]

Thank you!

[@seankennedy5437]

I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who figured out you could get perma-black hole by turning off death wave and golden tower. It comes in clutch for Tournament runs. I fundamentally knew this strategy and have used it in the past to edge out certain tiers, but this video gave me the motivation to try for Tier 16 myself, and made it! (Although I only made it to Wave 328 in Tier 15...) I decided right after that run that I wanted to push my luck to get to Wave 100 on Tier 16 to unlock Card Mastery and was able to get it done with a TON of luck using the following strategy: - Cards: Effectively same cards as you, except added Intro Sprint, Slow Aura, Wave Accelerator, and Energy Net (and Nuke as noted in your comment). Note: You don't need any Damage, Cash, or Free Ups for this run to free up space. - Modules: Same (My Death Penalty is Mythic, but otherwise the same modules) Strategy: - Prior to run, keep Death Wave and Golden Tower off permanently, these won't help you given how fast enemy damage scales. This keeps all enemies at bay during the run with perma Black Hole. - Intro sprint up to Wave 40, this would break Second Wind. - During Wave 40, end Intro Sprint. - Right as Wave 41 starts, I would use Demon Mode immediately with Wave Skip on (right before the Boss from Wave 40 hits). This would get me past the Bosses from Waves 40, 42, and 49. Note: The timing on this is really tight and may only be possible with Chrono Field leveled up. I've got 75% speed reduction with decent uptime, you could probably cheese the starting point for Chrono Field if your uptime isn't as good. It didn't work every time and often required a Death Defy to proc. If I couldn't survive past Wave 40, I would just restart. - After Wave 49, you play the luck game with Wave Skip, you need to get past 6 or 7 bosses to get to Wave 100 (You have another option to get past the 7th boss on Wave 98). - If your Wave Skip is unsuccessful, wait for Death Penalty to possibly proc. - If Death Penalty doesn't proc, use Nuke on first boss. - If you are out of Nuke, pray to RNGsus for Death Defy through your Energy Shield. - For the boss on Wave 98, if you aren't able to skip past it, keep Wave Skip on. With Energy Net, Slow Aura, and Chrono Field, you should have just enough time to possibly get a Wave Skip to Wave 100 before the boss hits you. I went at this for about 90 minutes and finally hit a lucky run where I got to Wave 113. If nothing else, I would recommend trying this strategy out the next time there is a Death Defy Event mission, runs are quick and rely heavily on Death Defy as part of the strat. Thanks for the video and the motivation to bump up to the next Tier!

[@JPlays1]

@@seankennedy5437 amazing and thank you for sharing such detailed run and setup with us all!

[@bob_412]

I am than two months in and trying to pass tier 14 now with this exact strategy, plus Nuke card. It took a lot of tries to cheese my way out of tier 12, about two weeks of playing, than two days to pass tier 13. The RNG gods arent in my favor for tier 14, as i've been grinding for more than two weeks there now. The coin bonus is immense now. From 800M per week to 3B. My farming runs are irrelevant for now since i make 4-10 mil per run

[@JeffP978]

Awesome video my man. If people listen to you they will gain a lot of levels quick.

[@JPlays1]

cheers!

[@trevorberry1395]

Do you use an emulator? I have trouble with the fps being too low and crushing my coin gains. Any tips or specs needed to run the game properly?

[@trishulpatel8244]

3rd month just started and cant even touch tier 12 and barely make 20b on a good day I didn't think an account like yours would be possible until about a year in

[@cranberrytbb]

My lifetime coins 5.5b and im on t12 wave 90

[@trishulpatel8244]

@cranberrytbb nice! i fumble around wave 40 i think i made it to 60 a month ago but after i switched to devo blender type build it was a struggle for cash upgrades to keep up i get to 60ish atm i could respec if but i dont know if respec will get me to t14 for ultimate crit so haven't bothered saving 300 gems for it

[@kaceydillin7367]

Nice. I have had the best luck with Blender. I have only been playing for like 3 weeks and 3B a day is what I get. I have only pushed to t12 wave 50.

[@cranberrytbb]

@@kaceydillin7367 3B a day in 3 weeks omg i couldnt reach wave 50 in first 2 weeks on t1

[@Kren-dz4sy]

Is researching attack speed gonna help with blender build?

[@JPlays1]

Attack speed is important for any build. I mean, it's not important for orb devo FARMING, but you still gotta do tournaments where the attack speed will matter. So yeah, any build need attack speed as there are so many things that attack speed relates to; whether it's knockback and keeping enemies off your tower, or proccing certain UWs and rend, +++++++. Lots of things.

[@jakeb_playz7079]

If you have light speed shots unlocked it's unesscesary.

[@Kren-dz4sy]

@@jakeb_playz7079 but light speed shots only affects how fast the bullet travels not how many bullet u shoot per second.

[@JPlays1]

Answer to @jakeb_playz: That is simply incorrect. With that logic then the Attack Speed card is also useless then? :) As with any lab, the attack speed has diminishing returns the higher level you get it - but still want to keep the lab somewhat prioritised. Don’t have to absolute permaslot it though

[@l2geneticl2]

How does turning off GT and DW gives permanent BH? Something to do with modules?

[@l2geneticl2]

I apready unlocked this tier, but dont know how this tip works

[@trishulpatel8244]

The module has a +20 seconds penalty when you first get it so it averages which ever UWs are on and adds 20s for the final cool down so DW 120s GT 120s BH 60s would get averaged to 100s the the module would add +20 wo all UWs would sync at 120s cooldown. If the Multivurse Nexus is maxed rank at ancestral the +20 penalty becomes -10s instead if you turn off DW and GT BH has an average of 60s and the -10 drops it to 50s, giving you a free 10s cooldown instead whereas while everything is on BH cooldown would have been 90s or without MN 60s So its a tip that only applies to people who have ancestral Multiverse Nexus and are 10s away from having a permanent blackhole, while most wont have one that high the only alternative is to increase BH duration by 10seconds instead, and the last 10s cost about 4500 stones, but i'm sure you still need to be lucky enough to get the BH duration perk to not be 2 seconds short of 100% uptime so i'm prob just wasting your time xD

[@l2geneticl2]

@ thats cool, i did not know that turning off UW removes it from calculations all together.

[@JPlays1]

@@trishulpatel8244 thanks for giving such a detailed response for me!

[@wmmow]

Can you do a video on sub stats on modules, best/ worst, what and when etc :)

[@JPlays1]

Yeah that could be interesting to cover one day. The lame answer is that it may often "depend" though - but I can try to cover such variables to consider etc. too

[@Marco-ut3en]

Final f...ly did it.thx for the Tipps. Did you also unlock masteries in t16 with it?

[@JPlays1]

@@Marco-ut3en awesome! I just did w60 on t16 and went back to farming - so no, not really tried that yet, but will next time I undevo. What about yourself?

[@Marco-ut3en]

@@JPlays1 same. Hit wave 63 first try and stopped. Good luck wird everything hope you doing well

[@JPlays1]

@@Marco-ut3en Likewise!

[@DoomGuy__]

Do you know is perma BH is viable for econ?

[@JPlays1]

Once you can pull off Orbless strategy (instead of Orb Devo) and have the time to monitor your run for that strategy - then yes, viable for econ. I could pull off decent orbless with perma BH - about the same as my orb devo, but with a lot more microing and tweaking in a run. In the future, as I get stronger and stronger and more developed UWs though, orbless will get better than my orb devo and not require too much microing. But for now not feasible for me as I don't have time to monitor my runs constantly.

[@DoomGuy__]

@ that makes sense. Thank you for your reply brother!

[@JPlays1]

Also, when you have to go completely AFK, such as overnight run, then perma BH can be nice too for longer overnight runs.

[@noahthompson5373]

my wall is not showing but it's working lol I have the invisible wall lol

[@JPlays1]

Haha wow, interesting bug!

[@noahthompson5373]

@ yep pretty weird lol

[@linuslucke3838]

Why no nuke card?

[@JPlays1]

Good point, should have mentioned that. For my run it was impossible to find a spot for and not relevant - but it absolutely can be for many cases. I'll make a pinned comment about the nuke card. Thanks!

[@linuslucke3838]

@JPlays1 I only have a 1 star nuke, so it only kills a boss 1/4 times, I'm trying to do 100 on T12, but can barely survive the boss normally on 20, so I use nuke on 30(if I don't get a skip) and if it doesn't kill it, reset unless I double dd to save my wings(I have 101% thorns because of substats, so only 2 hits per boss) So far I got to 90 doing this

[@JPlays1]

@@linuslucke3838 nice! Quite a bit of rng needed when you are struggling already at wave 20. Pretty amazing already to have reached 90! Hope you get the last 10 waves soon! You didn't mention it, but I assume you are already using Demon Mode too? How high is your workshop stats? I guess you could consider respeccing to push up health etc. - IF you are willing to waste 150 gems doing so. Since you are getting close though, it is probably not worth it.

[@linuslucke3838]

@JPlays1 I have 1* DM yes My base plan is use ES on 10(I don't have damage to actually kill anything lol) survive 20 normaly, nuke 30, unless I have enough health to survive one hit, in that case I go for dd on the 2nd, use wings at 40, on 50 ES charge is back, so I go for a dd hit on either one, then DM on 60, and all of these move back if I get a wave skip. If I do ES at 50, it's also back by 90 Other then that I can survive with the 9% chance of 2x dd if I have nothing else(Don't have a DP) Got another run that went to 91 because the boss spawned late into the wave but I died to the first hit I play f2p, but hate ads so I only watch one for the 15 gems per day, and only when it's a daily I watch ads for the 5 gems, so I already have alot less gems, respecing for a tier unlock doesn't seem worth it I did get GT today, but it's like 1700 stones to sync it and DW with BH and I'm in mid gold, it'll take a while untill I can actually make noticable amounts of coins farming, which is the main reason I want T13, to increase daily/weekly misson coins, they are my main income atm

[@linuslucke3838]

@JPlays1 I finally got it done. Invested in 160 Levels of health and 10 Levels of Package amount and max Recovery, which made me able to survive the boss at 30 normally without nuke At 40 I survived 1 hit but didn't proc dd so I used my wings, then got lucky skips on 50 and 60, used DM on 70, tried to nuke 80, but didn't kill the boss, ES +1 DD saved me though, then I tried to savescum a wave skip at 90 by Cloud saving at 88 and if I don't skip 90, close the app and restart, this didn't seem to work though.(I think WS might be deterministic, to prevent this?) Anyway at some point I clicked a gem during 90 which caused a save so I thought I was screwed but then I got 2x DD to get to 100, where I somehow got another 2x DD, died at 110 though Time for some T13 milestones